Saturday, noon, Ann Arbor.

Wolverines look to go 2-0 and stop another mobile QB this week. Now ranked 10th by the writers, they look to continue their momentum going into the first big game, the following week at Notre Dame.

The Chippewas are 0-1, falling to Boston College 24-31. They could make some noise and keep the game close for quite a while like Vanderbilt did, but ultimately they have no chance. I have no clue what the spread is.

Chips win!

Ok, they won't, but I'll be happy with a close loss like they got against BC.

It's going to be a bloodbath.

55-10 UM

Kevin Grady with 3 TDs, the defense gets 2 of their own.

Chips win!

Ok, they won't, but I'll be happy with a close loss like they got against BC.

there's a typical chippewa fan for ya. satisfied with only a close loss. I'm sure that's what Brian Kelly is telling his players right now.

"all right men let's head on down to Ann Arbor and lose by 10, head back to Mt. Pleasant (BTW has anyone seen a mountain there?), then some of you can go to the bar, get in a fight, kill somebody, and ruin another season." How bout saying something about how they could possibly take some momentum from the B.C. game into the Big House? nevermind... there's only one game that matters in CMU football and that's when they host WMU this year at the annual "Toilet Bowl"... where the only score that matters is how many throw-up, go to the hospital from alcohol poisioning AND/OR out run the mounted police.

Opening drive, 4th and 7 on the CMU 26. Kick a field goal? Last season, yup. This season, go for it and convert. A few plays later, Mike Hart TD. FEEEEELLLL IT!

OK, someone who knows the rules better answer this for me. On that fumble, David Harris had a hold of the Central player from behind as everyone scrambled to recover. Is that legal or a huge missed call that hurt CMU?

Radio guys talked about it, said its competely legal and very smart.

I obviously can't see it, so I'll suppose its true.

Ok, a weather delay in college football sucks for someone watching at home.

ESPN.com's scoreboard page has the game as a 7-0 final score.

edit- they fixed it

good enough for UM, but i'm none too confident about next week. i'm with bo, the irish have a huge advantage having already played GT and penn state.

screw playing chumps in the preseason, get some real games lloyd.

btw, i've said since henson was qb that we're too conservative, but i think, offensively, its time to really reign it in. if our o-line stays healthy, why not just run the ball every play? we've got the rb's.

screw playing chumps in the preseason, get some real games lloyd.
New Coordinator and no preseason to test things out. Honestly we're lucky we are playing the irish this early. Because i'm sure they'd want another game to get familiar with the new playbook. But I do think michigan has a better team. But Notre Dame has a better coach. So it balances out to another nail biter.

It's going to be a bloodbath.

55-10 UM

Kevin Grady with 3 TDs, the defense gets 2 of their own.

Not too shabby if you substitute Hart for Grady.

It's going to be a bloodbath.

55-10 UM

Kevin Grady with 3 TDs, the defense gets 2 of their own.

Not too shabby if you substitute Hart for Grady.
Hart>>>Grady.

screw playing chumps in the preseason, get some real games lloyd.
New Coordinator and no preseason to test things out. Honestly we're lucky we are playing the irish this early. Because i'm sure they'd want another game to get familiar with the new playbook. But I do think michigan has a better team. But Notre Dame has a better coach. So it balances out to another nail biter.

yea, but we always do this. bo speaks up every year, too. forget about sneaking your way to a national championship, get real competition in the preseason, and prepare yourself as well as you can for the big ten. if you have a rea national champ team, you'll beat everyone anyway. plus, how much better is it for recruiting to be in OSU's shoes right now?

screw playing chumps in the preseason, get some real games lloyd.
New Coordinator and no preseason to test things out. Honestly we're lucky we are playing the irish this early. Because i'm sure they'd want another game to get familiar with the new playbook. But I do think michigan has a better team. But Notre Dame has a better coach. So it balances out to another nail biter.

yea, but we always do this. bo speaks up every year, too. forget about sneaking your way to a national championship, get real competition in the preseason, and prepare yourself as well as you can for the big ten. if you have a rea national champ team, you'll beat everyone anyway. plus, how much better is it for recruiting to be in OSU's shoes right now?
But you must remember that Michigan Teams never really start off crisp it seems. As far as playing big teams, Beating Notre Dame puts us in the Title hunt immediately. We also get iowa, PSU, and OSU. And unlike other divisions we have our rivals typically pretty high in the college rankings. Honestly what teams play big non conference games to start the season while being in one of the best divisions in the NCAA? Its a pretty big risk to load up with early high competition when your divsional wins alone can get you into the BCS game. You typically play one strong Non-conference game. for OSU its Texas, for U of M its the irish.

Also aint no sneaking into the title game when you're in the Big Ten. along with the pac-10 its two of the best conferences in college football. Winning one big non conference game is enough when you're dealing with that much competition in your conference.

Preseason schedule of an SEC team, an instate team and the likely #3 ranked at the time Irish and you're complaining?
Ohio State is the only Big Ten team whose first 3 games are stronger.
Michigan State's first 2 games have been weaker than Michigan's, but at Pitt is a tough game before Notre Dame. I'll give it up for them on that.

Hart>>>Grady.

Obviously. You need to give me more credit than that, lol.

I thought the score would be so out of hand that Lloyd would have Hart out of there early and Grady would clean up the scraps.

I think I know what Michigan is trying to do this year. I was giving Moodini my theory last night. I believe Lloyd realized last year that some changes needed to be made. However, Lloyd is stubborn as hell and so is Bo looking over his shoulder. Lloyd even made reference to Bo being happy with things on Michigan replay last week.

I think they knew they needed to change and instead of opening things up like all of the other powers, they decided to go in the exact opposite direction. I think they are going to try to counter the spread offenses with a slow ground game that eats up the clock.

This strategy can work. This is how several teams have beaten my Spartans. However, MSU's D-line isn't what OSU's D-line is. I don't know if this strategy is going to work against the powers. It might work against MSU, but beating MSU isn't U of M's goal.

This new approach this year is going to be boom or bust. If it fails, it will fail miserably. I think Carr is putting his entire career on the line with this. If they run the ball all day long against the Irish while the Irish continue to put big points up, the fans are going to be in an uproar.

In addition, can Hart handle the rigors of a 30+ carries a game season? I don't think so. He's not a runner that avoids contact. If Lloyd plans on running him into the ground against the great teams, say goodbye to Hart. I'm way interested to see how things will shake out.

screw playing chumps in the preseason, get some real games lloyd.
New Coordinator and no preseason to test things out. Honestly we're lucky we are playing the irish this early. Because i'm sure they'd want another game to get familiar with the new playbook. But I do think michigan has a better team. But Notre Dame has a better coach. So it balances out to another nail biter.

Gutz, if you think Michigan has a better team than Notre Dame, you are smoking some serious shit. Don't get me wrong, Michigan's Defense is very good. So is their running game. However, Notre Dame is the #1 or #2 team in the nation. The best coach in the game in my opinion, Top 3 quarterback, very good running back, two great wide outs, and a much much improved defense. I'm sorry, but if Michigan is going to beat ND, it's going to take some luck for it to happen. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it's not likely.

I think I know what Michigan is trying to do this year. I was giving Moodini my theory last night. I believe Lloyd realized last year that some changes needed to be made. However, Lloyd is stubborn as hell and so is Bo looking over his shoulder. Lloyd even made reference to Bo being happy with things on Michigan replay last week.

I think they knew they needed to change and instead of opening things up like all of the other powers, they decided to go in the exact opposite direction. I think they are going to try to counter the spread offenses with a slow ground game that eats up the clock.

This strategy can work. This is how several teams have beaten my Spartans. However, MSU's D-line isn't what OSU's D-line is. I don't know if this strategy is going to work against the powers. It might work against MSU, but beating MSU isn't U of M's goal.

This new approach this year is going to be boom or bust. If it fails, it will fail miserably. I think Carr is putting his entire career on the line with this. If they run the ball all day long against the Irish while the Irish continue to put big points up, the fans are going to be in an uproar.

In addition, can Hart handle the rigors of a 30+ carries a game season? I don't think so. He's not a runner that avoids contact. If Lloyd plans on running him into the ground against the great teams, say goodbye to Hart. I'm way interested to see how things will shake out.

yup, this is what im thinking.

fun and gun? not so fun when you go 3 and out and then watch the other team stay on the field for 8 minutes.

we dont have the personel for a spread, so we might as well play a classic michigan offense anyway.

i dont share you concerns about hart though. simply because thats where we have unbelievable depth. if anything, we cant feed our RB's enough times. i'm much more concerned about our O-line. does anyone know if we have better depth there than last year?

I don't see why they don't have the personell for a spread offense. There is no reason why they couldn't line up 4 wide once in awhile and let Henne pick defenses apart. The beauty of a spread offense is that you don't need great receivers, just decent ones. However, Michigan would have a great #1 in Mario and a perfect slot in Breaston.

I think spreading it out once in awhile would help them tremendously and improve their running attack when they use it.

I agree that the spread doesn't require 4 great recievers. But I also agree that Michigan doesn't have the personel to run it, the coaching personel.

Gutz, if you think Michigan has a better team than Notre Dame, you are smoking some serious shit.
[smilie=rofl.gif] Funny.

Are you laughing at yourself? You said the same thing and the worst part is that you're a fan of Michigan.

At least Jethro believed in his team.

there's a typical chippewa fan for ya. satisfied with only a close loss. I'm sure that's what Brian Kelly is telling his players right now.


of course he didn't tell them that. but let's be realistic. CMU doesn't have the talent to win (unless a team like U of M implodes completely).

If they had called that interception/fumble/touchback correctly that's 7 less points for U of M. And if that CMU WR hadn't dropped the easy TD, it would have been a pretty close game for CMU.

Are you laughing at yourself? You said the same thing and the worst part is that you're a fan of Michigan.

At least Jethro believed in his team.

I never doubted that Michigan had a better team than ND. I would say we probably have more talent. I just thought that Weis would massively outcoach LC, and the game was in South Bend. :eek: LC and the coordinators came out with an amazing gameplan.

of course he didn't tell them that. but let's be realistic. CMU doesn't have the talent to win (unless a team like U of M implodes completely).

If they had called that interception/fumble/touchback correctly that's 7 less points for U of M. And if that CMU WR hadn't dropped the easy TD, it would have been a pretty close game for CMU.

Ok... so once again... a Chippewa fan proves that being a Chippewa is really not all that (btw... have you seen your mascot lately? oh that's right... you don't have one). So... yeah.... did the Akron coach go to Raliegh, N.C. telling his players "let's keep it close and hope for some calls to go our way"? Or how about Bill Cubit out of WMU (hmm.. MAC coach of the year last year btw... but I would rather have two divison II national championships... but I digress)

ANYWAY... Did Billy boy go to Charlottesville, VA. saying something similar? No! coaches have to believe in their team and prepare them to win. You're totally missing my point. a fan shouldn't say it either.

that's stupid talk. I shouldn't be happy that we played two top 25 teams tough? Ok, whatever you say.

Of course I wanted them to win. But I am also satisfied with the way they played. I was pissed at the last play of the BC game because it was a junk play and we had a chance to win. But my expectations were just to be close. What is wrong with that?

And when did I ever bring up the coach? Stop putting words in my mouth. He's going to tell them to play hard and do their best. I doubt coaches ever say whether they think they are going to win or lose. That is up to the players to decide.

BTW, making fun of the mascot is lame. U of M doesn't have one either. Who cares?

Umm, just so you know, U-M has a mascot. It's called a Wolverine. Sure, they don't have some idiot in a 9 foot paper mache (however the F you spell that) suit going around with a foam finger and a skirt, nor do they have a real animal caged up somewhere, but that doesn't mean they don't have a mascot.

^LOLing at the thought of bringing a real wolverine to games and releasing it onto the field like Uga.

Anybody see that Lee Corso commercial where he's telling Sparty that he's his favorite mascot and the other mascots get pissed?

When that Ghengis Khan mascot gives him the "evil eye" I crack up every time. What school has Ghengis Khan as a mascot?

They're all whack ass fake mascots besides Sparty. He's just a whack ass mascot. hee hee.

Umm, just so you know, U-M has a mascot. It's called a Wolverine. Sure, they don't have some idiot in a 9 foot paper mache (however the F you spell that) suit going around with a foam finger and a skirt, nor do they have a real animal caged up somewhere, but that doesn't mean they don't have a mascot.

Well, CMU has the Chippewas as a mascot. They are in the same boat as far as actually having one there. I was simply saying that if CMU doesn't have one, neither does U of M. But what difference does it make? Sparty doesn't fire me up, good football does. And Sparty is the best mascot out there IMO. Mascots (physical representations of them anyway) are neat, but not essential.