Not sure where the old MSU Fball thread went so I started another. Muhme show asked for my prediction for this year's breakout player awhile back and I gave him two names(prior to spring fball). I'm even more confident in my two names after reading more about them during preparation for the season.

My first was Nehemiah Warrick aka Nemo, yes he is Peter Warrick's cousin. Nemo is definately my pick for State's breakout performer. The most exciting part is that he plays on the defensive side of the ball. Warrick has made his presence known from the very first practice in EL. MSU was running minimum contact, minimum protection passing drills. Nemo comes up and lights up the first WR in his area and lets the entire offense know about it. According to SpartanMag, this probably would get a player disliked immediately on any other team, but the entire Spartan team welcomed it. It was what they had been looking for, for two years. Apparantly he has changed the entire attitude of the secondary. Everyone is jumping on Nemo's ship. Should be interesting.

My second player that I listed for Muhme was T.J. Williams, a Wide Out out of Talahassee Florida. Williams has quite the reputation already. He comes from Plaxico Burress' school and his brother is Antonio Cromartie. Not bad! Williams most likely won't see much of the field this year because the Spartans are stacked at WR. But, I'm telling you right now this guy will not only star at MSU, but be an NFL wide out. Coaches and players say he is almost identical to Chad Johnson in the way he plays and the way he lets everybody knows how he's playing. Williams is 6'3" and clocked a 4.3 40 Time. No joke. He also clocked a 3.97 shuttle time. Sick! After being on campus for only a week, he took 3 catches in for 108 yds in their first scrimmage. He's way too raw now and has too much in front of him. But, I'm hoping I see T.J. on punt returns. Look out.

TE Kellen Davis is gonna be a weapon this year. The Spartans should look to him and Trannon often in the red zone. There is no reason they shouldn't dominate down there (both are 6'6").

As for MSU football......I'm fuckin spazzin out waiting for Saturday.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZoaX1CU5DKQ

Kellen Freeman Davis is a freak of nature physically. I'm talking TO type of body. Not exaggerating. The dude will play in the NFL for sure.

I flat out don't like MSU, but I thought this was pretty good....found it on another message board. The better you know this scene from Braveheart the funnier it is. You gotta picture Stanton on a horse addressing MSU fans.

Stanton: And if this is the MSU team page message board, why do not fight back against those who predict we go 8-4 and lose to Pitt?
MSU doubter: We didn't come here to fight against the horrible MSU football record predictions this year by varioius sport websites like cbssportsline.com.
Second MSU doubter: Let's talk about the 1957 Champs, the haters are too many!
Drew Stanton: Drunks of East Lansing! I am Drew Stanton.
MSU Grad: Drew Stanton gave Brady Quinn's girlfriend a dirty Sanchez and than gave Lloyd Carr's wife a pearl necklace, your not him!
Drew Stanton: Yes, I've heard. Raw dog SEC cheerleaders by the hundreds. And if HE were here, he'd consume the Buckeyes and Panthers with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.
[CBSSPORTSLINE MSU message board laughs]
Drew Stanton: I AM Drew Stanton! And I see a whole army of my fellow Spartan men, here, in defiance of Hawkeye and Irish lovers. You've come to cheer as drunk men, and alcoholics you are. What will you do with that green kool aid with rum? Will you blackout and cheer us to victory?
Lynn Henning: Against that? No, we'll run, and we'll drink coffee.
Drew Stanton: Aye, predict a 12-0 season for MSU and you may be laughed at, predict us to go 8-4, and you'll be playing it safe... at least for a while. And drinking Mountain Dew in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may laugh at you now, but you will urinate on their faces when we go 12-0... National Champions!

I flat out don't like MSU, but I thought this was pretty good....found it on another message board. The better you know this scene from Braveheart the funnier it is. You gotta picture Stanton on a horse addressing MSU fans.

Stanton: And if this is the MSU team page message board, why do not fight back against those who predict we go 8-4 and lose to Pitt?
MSU doubter: We didn't come here to fight against the horrible MSU football record predictions this year by varioius sport websites like cbssportsline.com.
Second MSU doubter: Let's talk about the 1957 Champs, the haters are too many!
Drew Stanton: Drunks of East Lansing! I am Drew Stanton.
MSU Grad: Drew Stanton gave Brady Quinn's girlfriend a dirty Sanchez and than gave Lloyd Carr's wife a pearl necklace, your not him!
Drew Stanton: Yes, I've heard. Raw dog SEC cheerleaders by the hundreds. And if HE were here, he'd consume the Buckeyes and Panthers with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.
[CBSSPORTSLINE MSU message board laughs]
Drew Stanton: I AM Drew Stanton! And I see a whole army of my fellow Spartan men, here, in defiance of Hawkeye and Irish lovers. You've come to cheer as drunk men, and alcoholics you are. What will you do with that green kool aid with rum? Will you blackout and cheer us to victory?
Lynn Henning: Against that? No, we'll run, and we'll drink coffee.
Drew Stanton: Aye, predict a 12-0 season for MSU and you may be laughed at, predict us to go 8-4, and you'll be playing it safe... at least for a while. And drinking Mountain Dew in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may laugh at you now, but you will urinate on their faces when we go 12-0... National Champions!

I've seen Braveheart and I have no idea what that means.

Yeah, that was really weird.

basically they are referring to the scene in braveheart where william wallace gives the pep talk from his horse before one of the big battles.

i agree, its not very well done but somewhat clever.

Michigan State Football is an absolute joke and I can say that because I've been an optimistic die hard for 25 years. I'm honestly just so tired of the same things year in and year out.

First of all, John L's bullshit optimism after the game was sickening. How the hell can you explain a Big Ten defense giving up 4-5 yds on every single run attempt the entire game. How the hell can you defend your team being absolutely dominated by Idaho in time of possession?! It's a joke. The only reason why Smith was defending the win after the game is because he knows his seat is on fire right now and he doesn't want the team to lose confidence this early.

I appreciate several things John L. has done. I love the fact that our quarterback position is better than it has ever been at MSU and it is set for nearly 5 more years. I love the fact that our offense is among the Top 5 in the country.

However, you can't win with a terrible defense and that has been the problem for the last 3 years. I feel so bad for Stanton who could win numerous Championships at other Universities. That defense yesterday was garbage. Imagine what it will be like against ND!

There were some positive developments, don't get me wrong. We have a kicker now and a very very good set of safeties in Nemo and Wiley. However, that does not matter when your D-line and LB's are worse than most MAC teams. We have a terrific offense and a couple of very good defensive players now (Nemo, Wiley, Adams). But the sad thing is, other teams are going to dominate physically up front and our offense will look much worse (like yesterday) because they are sitting on the sideline getting stiff for 5-6 minute stretches.

And how about some of those brilliant play calls?! Okay, let's do some Math here. Jehuu is 265 pounds. Ringer is 210. Tosses will probably not work with Jehuu and they probably will work for Ringer. Why is that so hard to figure out?! And when you've got 4th and 1 and you are a Big Ten team with a 265 pound back, GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL UP THE MIDDLE. No, instead we rush out onto the field and hand it off to our smallest back up the middle and try to catch mamouth Idaho off guard. What an embarrassment.

Listen Spartan fans, take it from me. Count this team out now and save yourself the headaches. I didn't say bail on them as a fan. Throw on your Stanton jersey, turn on the Big Screen, and yell and holler all game long for your Spartans like me. Just plan on a disappointing season when all is said and done. I've got 25 years of proof to back my plan up.

Well, we now know that Stanton is not the "Greatest QB in the Country". Yuck! [smilie=puker.gif]

I was listening to Stoney and WoJo on the way home from school today and every Monday they have people call in and nominate the "Monday afternoon moron".

I heard 6 calls and they went like this.

1. Ryan Van Stanton
2. Drew "L." Stanton
3. John L. Smith
4. John L. Smith
5. John L. Smith
6. John L. Smith

The last caller had a classic quote saying "When you crap on your own living room floor when everyone is watching, there's no coming back from that."

AAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA![smilie=hahaha.gif]

Needless to say, John L. Smith was named the Monday afternoon moron.[smilie=youcrazy.gi:

Well, we now know that Stanton is not the "Greatest QB in the Country". Yuck!

Yes, and Henne is no "Golden Arm", either.