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The Pacers received an exception worth $7.5 million from New Orleans in exchange for Peja Stojakovic on Wednesday, greatly expanding their opportunities to make a trade for a significant player in the next year.

looks like they can get Al Harrington for nothing

Pistons are still better, but i wanted to see Indy in the Lotto :(

Entourage is the shit.

BTW, they can't sign al harrington unless they outbid golden state, which I dont see happening.

So Donnie Walsh takes back some player that will never play a minute in the NBA and a massive trade exception!

I guess Chicago didn't have any shitty players that will never play in the NBA?

What a fucking joke.

Why didn't we throw money at Chicago to get a trade exception for Ben?

^his initials are B.D., and if he puts a magic feather in his trunk he can use his ears to fly.

the dude that can hear anything for 50 miles makes it hard to root for his team. i hope that when the old man passes whoever takes over isnt a cheap fuck.

Where is Gaystat to defend his boy? Come on you wanna-be Tom Wilson defend Davidson's honor!

RE: Pacers get 7.3 Mill Trade Exception :(

Can they use it to buy some teeth for their fans?

Would make a fine promotion at Conseco.

[Pacer fan]I aint lettin no leetist libber atheist scientist touch my mouth Itellyawut.[/Pacerfan]

joe was probably too busy in the gym putting 50 LB's of muscle on samb's 7 ft 200LB frame to think of trading for a trade exception.

but dont worry, in 8 years samb will be the next desagna diop.

Yeah, shocking Dumars couldn't get a division rival to give the Pistons a massive trade exception for no reason whatsoever.

Come on guys, there's plenty of legit things to complain about. Let's not start bitching about the sky being blue.

Yeah, shocking Dumars couldn't get a division rival to give the Pistons a massive trade exception for no reason whatsoever.

Come on guys, there's plenty of legit things to complain about. Let's not start bitching about the sky being blue.

Too late.....

I am so sick of the Pistons Joe D and Davidson apologists, not getting a TE had nothing to do with rivalry. It was widely reported by anyone not with their lips attached to the Pistons organization's collective ass, Joe would not agree to a S&T.

A S&T helps Chicago as much as Detroit, it could have allowed the after the Chandler trade to have money left for another solid FA.

You can't tell me that Detroit couldn't have taken back Othella (who was waived) and took the TE if it was not a money matter. Joe was allowed to add salary plain and simple.

FUCK YOU!!!!! DAVIDSON DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING!!! ALL HAIL TOM WILSON!!!!!

I am so sick of the Pistons Joe D and Davidson apologists, not getting a TE had nothing to do with rivalry. It was widely reported by anyone not with their lips attached to the Pistons organization's collective ass, Joe would not agree to a S&T.

A S&T helps Chicago as much as Detroit, it could have allowed the after the Chandler trade to have money left for another solid FA.

You can't tell me that Detroit couldn't have taken back Othella (who was waived) and took the TE if it was not a money matter. Joe was allowed to add salary plain and simple.

I'm gonna follow Diddy's lead and assume that "apologist" remark was aimed at Kstat (especially since even I've called him Tom Wilson in the last week).

While it is true that Davidson wasn't going to add the contract that a TE would have brought, you are going to need a lot more than the fact that the Bulls waived Othella Harrington to convince me they would have agreed to S&T for Wallace instead of just out right buying him when the latter means double penetrating a historic franchise rival by both taking their team's identity and leaving them out in the cold with only a handful of shit to try and sign a replacement. With the moves the Bulls have made this offseason, I think they're pretty confident in their own team and would rather make due with the terrible burden of one player's contract rather than hand a team they are going to be going head to head with a get out of jail free card.

Which do you think is more dangerous to the Bulls? Eating Othella's contract or giving JoeD, notorious for fucking over other GMs with his trades, a giant TE that other teams would love to have?

IMO this entire thread is like that bullshit where B-Diddy tried to say that any signing Dumars made that didn't end up in the Pistons winning a championship was a mark against him, then tried to say that every player who signed somewhere else was the same thing. No one's happy with the way things are but being pissed off that Jim Paxson isn't handing out golden fucking tickets (read that last line with a cockney accent) is just plain stupid.

It's pretty clear that the Pistons want to avoid paying luxury tax and losing out on any potential tax disbursements at all costs.

Once you accept that there was an internal threshold for salary these complaint posts become redundant.

Unfortunately, passing up the opportunity to go into the tax did limit the Pistons with a Cato S&T, adding Cato for depth, adding salary back from Chicago etc.

I truly believe that the Pistons had zero intention of signing Ben. $3 million a year was not going to make or break our cap position, but exceeding the tax and then looking to add more salary via the MLE and BAE was definitely not the plan.

It is what it is. The Pistons run their franchise like the Spurs, except the ownership is much wealthier and the Palace is a gold mine.

Underneath all of the hyperbole and breast pounding is the truth. We stay below the cap and if that means fielding a less experienced roster, so be it.

I feel sicker for knowing that truth, but at least I am not holding out for some miraculous trades or personnel moves that will likely never materialize.

Let summer begin...

It is what it is. The Pistons run their franchise like the Spurs

Wow, what a terrifying thought....

When the Spurs let one of their all-stars go over money you can compare the two.

When the Spurs let one of their all-stars go over money you can compare the two.
The Spurs haven't had 4 All-Stars in one season.

You're missing the analogy. The Spurs are a poor team that watches how it spends very carefully. The ownership is one of the least wealthy in the NBA.

They have to watch what they do. Tax dollars affect them more significantly than the Pistons.

But the P's do business like them. The Stones don't make use of their advantage at the bank.

There is no way that Chicago would allow us to get a big trade exemption like that. They are not going to help us out like that and to think that Joe would turn down a huge trade exemption that he doesn't even have to use if Davidson doesn't sign off on is ridiculous. Davidson is cheap but he ain't THAT cheap.

Why would Chicago basically sign, seal, and deliver Al Harrington here? Paxson is much smarter than that.

IMO this entire thread is like that bullshit where B-Diddy tried to say that any signing Dumars made that didn't end up in the Pistons winning a championship was a mark against him, then tried to say that every player who signed somewhere else was the same thing. No one's happy with the way things are but being pissed off that Jim Paxson isn't handing out golden fucking tickets (read that last line with a cockney accent) is just plain stupid.

um, i think you might be misparaphrasing me slightly.

my argument was: if your not building towards a championship, you might as well be looking to rebuild. if your adding pieces when you have no hope at winning a championship, your just treading water and wasting everyone's time.

i think being a good, but not great team is the worst position to be, as an nba fan. (but i dont want to get into that arguement again).

i wasnt saying just because a move doesnt work out makes it a bad move. only one team can win a championship. but in reallity, only a couple of teams are really trying to win one each year (realistically). someteams are building for the near future, someteams are building for the distant future, and some teams are kidding themselves. sadly, i think we've moved from distant future, to near future, to kidding ourselves. but i'm sure we'll all enjoy making it to the second round for the foreseeable future.

making a legitimate run at a title and failing is one thing. adding pieces just to stay afloat is another.

Yeah, shocking Dumars couldn't get a division rival to give the Pistons a massive trade exception for no reason whatsoever.
Doh! Never mind I said this. For some reason (probably because he was formerly a Knick), I thought Harrington had a much more bloated contract than he did. I could've sworn it was $8 million...