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Taymelo
06-28-2006, 07:32 AM
Bush: "Science is a bunch of hokey they made up on them internets to avoid talk of Iraq's nukuehler techn... techno... technology. Fool me once... shame... shame... on you? Fool me twice.... you're not gonna get fooled again."


Climate experts: Gore's movie gets the science right
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy.

The former vice president's movie -- replete with the prospect of a flooded New York City, an inundated Florida, more and nastier hurricanes, worsening droughts, retreating glaciers and disappearing ice sheets -- mostly got the science right, said all 19 climate scientists who had seen the movie or read the book and answered questions from The Associated Press.

The AP contacted more than 100 top climate researchers by e-mail and phone for their opinion. Among those contacted were vocal skeptics of climate change theory. Most scientists had not seen the movie, which is in limited release, or read the book.

But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

"Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right."

Robert Corell, chairman of the worldwide Arctic Climate Impact Assessment group of scientists, read the book and saw Gore give the slideshow presentation that is woven throughout the documentary.

"I sat there and I'm amazed at how thorough and accurate," Corell said. "After the presentation I said, 'Al, I'm absolutely blown away. There's a lot of details you could get wrong.' ... I could find no error."

Gore, in an interview with the AP, said he wasn't surprised "because I took a lot of care to try to make sure the science was right."

The tiny errors scientists found weren't a big deal, "far, far fewer and less significant than the shortcoming in speeches by the typical politician explaining an issue," said Michael MacCracken, who used to be in charge of the nation's global warming effects program and is now chief scientist at the Climate Institute in Washington.

One concern was about the connection between hurricanes and global warming. That is a subject of a heated debate in the science community. Gore cited five recent scientific studies to support his view.

"I thought the use of imagery from Hurricane Katrina was inappropriate and unnecessary in this regard, as there are plenty of disturbing impacts associated with global warming for which there is much greater scientific consensus," said Brian Soden, a University of Miami professor of meteorology and oceanography.

Some scientists said Gore confused his ice sheets when he said the effect of the Clean Air Act is noticeable in the Antarctic ice core; it is the Greenland ice core. Others thought Gore oversimplified the causal-link between the key greenhouse gas carbon dioxide and rising temperatures.

While some nonscientists could be depressed by the dire disaster-laden warmer world scenario that Gore laid out, one top researcher thought it was too optimistic. Tom Wigley, senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, thought the former vice president sugarcoated the problem by saying that with already-available technologies and changes in habit -- such as changing light bulbs -- the world could help slow or stop global warming.

While more than 1 million people have seen the movie since it opened in May, that does not include Washington's top science decision makers. President Bush said he won't see it. The heads of the Environmental Protection Agency and NASA haven't seen it, and the president's science adviser said the movie is on his to-see list.

"They are quite literally afraid to know the truth," Gore said. "Because if you accept the truth of what the scientific community is saying, it gives you a moral imperative to start to rein in the 70 million tons of global warming pollution that human civilization is putting into the atmosphere every day."

As far as the movie's entertainment value, Scripps Institution geosciences professor Jeff Severinghaus summed it up: "My wife fell asleep. Of course, I was on the edge of my chair."

Glenn
06-28-2006, 07:49 AM
Is it normal to want to barf after reading that? [smilie=puke.gif]

Damn this term can't get over fast enough.

I hope the American public has learned something this time.

Prolly not.

Taymelo
06-28-2006, 07:58 AM
Can you believe he has the nerve to be so cocky about the future of the entire planet?

George: "I'm not gonna see it because Enron execs told me it was a bunch of hokey, right before they told me the number for that swiss bank account with 100 billion dollars with my name on it."

George: "And besides. Al Gore is boring and wooden, so who cares if we're all going to die? Wouldn't you still rather have a beer with me than him?"

Uncle Mxy
06-28-2006, 09:37 AM
"Real men don't watch documentaries."

Fool
06-28-2006, 10:08 AM
"they are the subject of them."

Pharaoh
06-28-2006, 11:47 AM
How long before Bush is out of office?

He is only allowed 2 terms, right?

He didn't change that, did he?

Taymelo
06-28-2006, 01:44 PM
Not yet.

But he's already stated that he thinks Jeb Bush would make a great president.

Why not?

He's got blue blood.

That's all you need in an aristocracy.

b-diddy
06-28-2006, 02:10 PM
its on my to see list, but probably wont till it comes out on video.

watching the enron movie, and how it ties george bush to the enron disastor (loosely) and the california blackouts (almost directly), you cant help but assume that bush is much responsible for gas prices today. not surprisingly, he's the biggest advocate of drilling in alaska, which wouldnt even put a dent in the problem, but would make billions for whoever did it.

bush is a dinasaur. environment is the issue of the 21st century. its just a matter of when america realizes it.

Taymelo
06-29-2006, 11:05 AM
Bush isn't a dinosaur, he's a whore.

Read your own post again, Diddy. His policy is based on making his contributors money, sothey can contribute more, and mobilizing his voter base, so he can get more votes.

That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less.

And that includes his so-called religious convictions, morals, ethics, and values. He only values money and votes. If banning abortion will get him one or the other, he'll do so. But if forcing women to get abortions (Saipan) will get him money or votes, he'll make sure plenty of women are forced to get abortions.

And if drilling in Alaska will make his contributors enough money to get more republicans elected, he'll do it.

Uncle Mxy
06-29-2006, 02:19 PM
The world just gets smaller every day -- THAT's the key of the 21st century! A ton of issues -- ecology, outsourcing, bird flu, Internet-enabled crime -- are all symptoms of a smaller world. This bulletin board is too, for that matter.