Just wondering what you guys think the threshold is for Joe as far as re-signing T.Delk.

I would think nothing more than 2 years, but I'm not sure what kind of salary we're talking about.

I think his play with us in the regular season has earned him more than the vet's minimum (either from us, or from someone else).

I just wonder if another team will try and grab him, or if he will want to stick around. If there really is turmoil in the lockerroom, he may want to get the hell out of here.

I wonder if he has talked to Lindsey? If Lindsey retires, Delk would seemingly have a shot at the #2 PG spot, although it sounds like Joe is planning on bringing someone else in too. And then there is Acker...

I know that Joe has his mind set on acquiring a PG that can really penetrate, but can we afford one, and how many of those quality PGs are available and willing to play backup minutes?

It depends on other moves IMO. If he is the primary backup PG, I would say 2 years for 5-6 mil total. If Hunter is back and/or Delfino is goomed to be a backup PG/SG and/or we trade for a backup PG in some senario...then he isn't worth that much probably.

I would rather play out my hand in every other area and if there's some crumbs for Delk to pick up then so be it.

Personally, I really have no use for Delk. He's an undersized SG that isn't that good at playing the point. I rather give Acker his spot in all honesty and search for another FA guard or use DelFino at the 2.

Really?

I think he provided some really nice scoring punch off the bench (which is our co-#1 need this offseason, along with post offense) and he played adequate defense.

The fact that he chose to come here over Miami and other teams might garner him some credit from Joe as well.

I think he's a very good 8th man, and if we totally leave him in the lerch, somebody's going to grab him.

I haven't seen anything from Acker that would tell me that he's got a roster spot in his immediate future here.

delk is irrelevent IMO. i say go for something better. if joe is serioes about his super 8, he'll move on and go for an almost starter quality guy instead of delk.

I actually like him, but I'm more in favor of using Delfino at first and having Delk as a fallback option when Delfino can't hit his shots. I wouldn't take Acker over Delk, that is for sure.

It's been a while since I looked at this, but can someone refresh my memory on Amir Johnson & Alex Acker's contract status?

Patricia Bender's page has "??"s and Hoopshype's got "$0" for both.

I seem to remember some misinformation being out there about Acker having a 2 year guaranteed deal, it's all so fuzzy right now.

Do we actually have Amir locked up?

(p.s. I'm going to change the thread title to include these guys)

It's been a while since I looked at this, but can someone refresh my memory on Amir Johnson & Alex Acker's contract status?

Patricia Bender's page has "??"s and Hoopshype's got "$0" for both.

I seem to remember some misinformation being out there about Acker having a 2 year guaranteed deal, it's all so fuzzy right now.

Do we actually have Amir locked up?

(p.s. I'm going to change the thread title to include these guys)

I believe Johnson has a team option at the minimum, which we're almost sure to pick up, and Acker is a restricted free agent.

Here's a good link for team free agents:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2441631

problem is Flip plays Delk at the 2, thus making Lindsey our primary backup AND pulling even more minutes away from Delfino.

Lindsey is good in spurts/situational, but I dont want him as our primary PG backup. Either Flip needs to be made to understand this or Delk should be cut loose and another PG picked up, with Delfino manning the 2 spot.

Keep Amir, Delk and Acker I could care less about.

Delk would be outstanding in a fred hoiberg role, but we'd need an effective slasher or inside scorer for him to play off of.

Amir's a keeper... we've got the 2nd year on him. Under the current CBA, I think it means that if we want to keep him beyond next year, he'd be an RFA, but we'd have to dip into the MLE for the first year of his extension.

Acker seems like someone who I'd love to trade with a young team for a 2nd round pick. He's got the tools to be a good backup SG, but he's not being played to his best here trying to convert him to PG right away.

Especially if Lindsey retires, I'd love to keep Delk around.

if delk wants more than mo evans money, i say let him go. Spend that money on the 7th and 8th true scorer coming off the bench Joe talked about.

Amir's a keeper... we've got the 2nd year on him. Under the current CBA, I think it means that if we want to keep him beyond next year, he'd be an RFA, but we'd have to dip into the MLE for the first year of his extension.

Acker seems like someone who I'd love to trade with a young team for a 2nd round pick. He's got the tools to be a good backup SG, but he's not being played to his best here trying to convert him to PG right away.

Especially if Lindsey retires, I'd love to keep Delk around.

Why trade Acker for a 2nd rd pick? How high of a pick do you expect to get? Also if we get the 44th pick in the draft, is that guy really going to be any better than Acker?

Amir's a keeper... we've got the 2nd year on him.

Mxy,

I'm not doubting you, but do you happen to have a link for this? I wondering why there is so much mystery about this around the web.

When the Pistons announced the Amir/Acker signings last year, terms were "not disclosed per team policy".

Why trade Acker for a 2nd rd pick? How high of a pick do you expect to get? Also if we get the 44th pick in the draft, is that guy really going to be any better than Acker?

I'm talking about a "down the road" 2nd rounder -- 5 years from now or whatever the farthest forward you can trade with someone for a draft pick. Whatever that pick is will probably be higher than #60, which is where we drafted Acker at. If I'm Joe, I'd pay a little now to stockpile some picks for rebuilding, put some dibs on decent Eurotrash perhaps.

I'm not doubting you, but do you happen to have a link for this? I wondering why there is so much mystery about this around the web.
Owing to detnews and freep going to a new web setup, I'm having a hard time finding where it's said exactly, but yeah, it definitely was reported in the news somewhere that Amir got a two year deal, with the 2nd year as a team option. The fact that he has an option is listed on a number of sites:

http://www.realgm.com/src_contractoptions/2006/

Thanks Mxy. Joe will certainly exercise the team option on Amir.

That means Acker, Hunter, Ben & Cato are all unrestricted free agents. Basically Delk is too since he's got a player option that he will almost definitely refuse (not enough $$).

So as far as the last few posts, trading Acker doesn't seem to be an option if he is a UFA.

EDIT: now I'm finding conflicting things about Acker. Some sites have him as UFA and some as a RFA.

Per Krista's article on Sunday:


UNSIGNED
C Ben Wallace: Unrestricted free agent.

G Lindsey Hunter: Unrestricted free agent. Could retire or come back to Detroit for another year.

F Amir Johnson: The Pistons almost assuredly will keep him; they must pick up his contract option before Friday or he'll become a restricted free agent.

G Alex Acker: Restricted free agent.

G Tony Delk: The Pistons expect him to become an unrestricted free agent by taking his player opt-out on his contract.

So we should be hearing about Amir's option getting picked up in the next 5 days.

In the same article she also said a max deal for Ben would start at $14 million so I wouldn't consider this gospel.

Accuracy has never been her strongpoint.

That would be picking out husbands with awkwardly-spelled last names.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060628/SPORTS03/606280395/1051


"I'd stay with the line of, 'Time will tell,' " said John Hammond, team vice president of basketball operations. "Just like this past season, we had No. 56 last year and we take Amir Johnson, and then we get Alex Acker at 60. I'd say at this point both of those picks were successful."

Both of those late second-rounders spent the past season on the team's roster. The Pistons plan to pick up the option for Johnson's second season and hope to re-sign Acker, a restricted free agent, this summer.

I'd just as soon let Acker go, he didn't show me much for a guy who was supposedly seasoned. Question is, can we find a better prospect to replace that roster spot? Damn you Arroyo.

Nuggets interested in Delk

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nba/article/0,2777,DRMN_23922_4825096,00.html


FREE-AGENT UPDATE: Agent Mark Bartelstein said he spoke more than once Wednesday to Nuggets director of player personnel Mark Warkentien. With the Nuggets needing a shooter, emphasis looks to be on free agents Eddie House, Tony Delk and Devean George.

"They have interest," Bartelstein said.

Per Krista's article on 6/25/06:

F Amir Johnson: The Pistons almost assuredly will keep him; they must pick up his contract option before Friday or he'll become a restricted free agent.

Did this ever come to pass? Was Krista just wrong again? Is she "bought and paid for"? Is her marriage on the rocks yet?

So many questions.

Her last name is shit. That's all that's certain.

If he's playing in the SL I guess that means they picked up his option?

i can't be bothered to go back and find the link now, but i do recall reading in one of the detroit papers that amir's option was picked up. it was a little blurb at the end of another article i was reading.

you'll have to take my word for it, because i'm too lazy to go looking for it.

word taken.

I think it's OK to assume they picked up his option.

The second year minimum is under $700,000, so why not pick it up?