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Bonds one away from Ruth on all-time list

With a national audience watching, Barry Bonds moved closer to one of the country's biggest icons.

Bonds moved within one home run of Babe Ruth for second place on the all-time home run list Sunday with a prodigious blast off Jon Lieber in the sixth inning of the San Francisco Giants' game against the Philadelphia Phillies.

The home run was Bonds' fifth of the season and 713th in his legendary career.

"I think (714) is the greatest thing," Bonds said. "It's awesome. I really do. I may not show it a lot though, but that's just me trying to keep my head screwed on straight. It's overwhelming right now. It's a little bit larger than a single-season record home run."

Bonds belted a 2-1 pitch from Lieber an estimated 450 feet off the facade of the upper deck in right field at Citizens Bank Park, cutting the Giants' deficit to 5-3.

"They tell me that's the way the Babe used to hit them," Giants manager Felipe Alou said.

It was the third plate appearance for Bonds, who was walked intentionally in the first and singled in the fourth.

Bonds had entered the contest just 5-for-36 in his career against Lieber.

"It was a sinker, he didn't miss," Lieber said. "He knows the type of pitcher I am. I'm gonna challenge him. That's what happens when you fall behind hitters like that."

Bonds struck out in his final plate appearance of San Francisco's 9-5 loss - the Giants' seventh loss in their last eight games.

"We have to win ballgames," Bonds said. "We haven't playing well and the most important thing is to win games. It's a lot more gratifying if you win. Right now, we haven't been playing good."

The 41-year-old Bonds is 42 homers behind Hank Aaron's all-time record of 755. However, Bonds has stated that he doubts he will ever catch Aaron due to age and mounting injuries.

Sunday's contest was the finale of San Francisco's five-game road trip. The Giants begin a seven-game homestand Monday, when they make up a previously rained out game against the Houston Astros.

"I got to watch it," Phillies manager Charlie Manuel said of No. 713. "He hit it pretty good. I'm glad he's leaving town too, because he's getting ready to get hot. He hit two balls hard tonight. Once he gets his timing down, he'll hit a few more (home runs)."

Bonds will try to move alongside Ruth against Roy Oswalt. He is 4-for-4 with a homer and two doubles and a triple in his career against the Astros' ace.

The Giants also will host the Chicago Cubs and archrival Los Angeles Dodgers for a three-game series.

It would be fitting if Bonds hit Nos. 714 and 715 at ATT Park, where he has hit many of his historic blasts.

Bonds hit No. 600 there in 2002, along with 660 and 661 in April 2004 to tie and pass godfather Willie Mays for third place on the all-time list. He hit his 700th into "McCovey Cove" on September 14, 2004.

Bonds' place in history once was secure, however the slugger has dealt with rumors of steroid use since setting the single-season homer record with 73 in 2001. He never has failed a drug test, but a new book alleged that he took a variety of performance-enhancing drugs over at least five seasons beginning in 1998.

Written by San Francisco Chronicle reporters Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams, "Game of Shadows" says Bonds engaged in persistent doping, taking four different kinds of steroids as well as insulin and human growth hormone during his record-breaking season, when he broke Mark McGwire's home run record.

The allegations led to Selig appointing former United States Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell to head an investigation into the alleged steroid use by Bonds and other major league players associated with the Bay Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO) on March 30.

With the added pressure of the investigation, along with a nagging knee injury that forced him to miss most of last season, Bonds had gotten off to a slow start this season.

He did not homer until his 31st at-bat - his longest drought to start a campaign since a drought of 54 at-bats at the beginning of the 1998 season. However, Bonds has gone on to hit five in his next 33 at-bats.
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Remember kids - cheaters never win!



...unless of course you choose baseball or politics as a profession....

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Fuckin cheater. BOOOOOOOOO

Good for the MLB on not celebrating this phony of a milestone.

And did anyone see Quite Frankly last night? Now SAS is one of my favorite personalities, but he tried to turn this into a race issue. Fuck outa here with that shit SAS. Not even you can believe that. HE CHEATED!

Until there is proof that he cheated, I will remain skeptical.

Kick some ass, Barry!

Until there is proof that he cheated, I will remain skeptical.


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i'm going to hell for that....

LMFAO!

Nah, God/Allah/Jehovah/Buddha/Satan/Mohammed/whoeverthehellyouworship will find that funny and let you in.

I typically don't watch Costas NOW on HBO, but they have a great one re-running this week about Bonds and the history of the home run. Watch it if you get the chance. Joe Morgan had an intersting comment about this being a race issue. He said that while race is always present in a lot of issues today in this country, he finds it hard to believe that it should be in the forefront here. Afterall, Hank Aaron is also black. If anything, it's because Bonds is a douchebag whenever the media is within 50 yards of him. Willie Mays, who was also interviewed by Costas, concurred.

This episode was also key because I really wanted to know who was the biggest Willie Mays fan. As it turns out, it's none other than Willie Mays. Go figure.

Here were his closing remarks. I thought they were pretty OK:

So what's the big deal about the steroid era in baseball? All performances are to some extent a product of prevailing conditions. After all, if Tony Gwynn, Rod Carew, or George Brett had played around the turn of the century, they surely would have had seasons where they hit .400. Roger Clemens and Greg Maddux can't get anywhere near Cy Young's 511 career wins not because they aren't as good, but because no modern pitcher gets the ball as often. Changes in ballparks, travel, scheduling, strategy, rules - comparing era to era is not always a case of apples to apples. But here's a key distinction: As the game evolved, those variations affected all competitors equally, and in their time, all those performances were authentic. The steroid era is not a mere variation. It's a gross and unnatural distortion, both of the game's history and of contemporary competition, since many used and many did not.

There are three seismic shifts in post-1900 baseball history. Two - the advent of the lively ball and the breaking of the color line - helped the game tremendously. The third, the steroid era, now haunts the game. Only segregation represents a greater blot on the game's history and integrity. The Black Sox scandal of 1919 involved one team, one year. Pete Rose - one guy. The steroid era, still ongoing, likely involved every team, and more players than we can count. Baseball can't have it both ways: It can't celebrate its history and revere its records, and then turn a blind eye when its history and its record book are poisoned.

As the game evolved, those variations affected all competitors equally,


I was gonna say that until I read it.

Steroids aside Bonds is an ass. Dan Wetzel on 1270 this morning retells a story about Bonds and what a dick he is. When the locker room janitor was around Bonds would wait until he was done picking up the joint then Barry would peel a sock off and toss it in the middle of the floor letting the janitor (or is it custodian?, nm) know that he missed one. The Janitor would pick it up walk away then Bonds would take the other one off and toss it onto the floor just to be an ass.

The other one Wetzel mentioned is that Bonds was caught cheating on his wife with his mistress......just 19 days after he got married. LMAO - what a prick.

Who roots for such a filthy human?

Because he's a great baseball player.

And LMFAO@that janitor story. That is hilarious.

Great Picture.

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Damn!

So close.

Here were his closing remarks. I thought they were pretty OK:

So what's the big deal about the steroid era in baseball? All performances are to some extent a product of prevailing conditions. After all, if Tony Gwynn, Rod Carew, or George Brett had played around the turn of the century, they surely would have had seasons where they hit .400. Roger Clemens and Greg Maddux can't get anywhere near Cy Young's 511 career wins not because they aren't as good, but because no modern pitcher gets the ball as often. Changes in ballparks, travel, scheduling, strategy, rules - comparing era to era is not always a case of apples to apples. But here's a key distinction: As the game evolved, those variations affected all competitors equally, and in their time, all those performances were authentic. The steroid era is not a mere variation. It's a gross and unnatural distortion, both of the game's history and of contemporary competition, since many used and many did not.

There are three seismic shifts in post-1900 baseball history. Two - the advent of the lively ball and the breaking of the color line - helped the game tremendously. The third, the steroid era, now haunts the game. Only segregation represents a greater blot on the game's history and integrity. The Black Sox scandal of 1919 involved one team, one year. Pete Rose - one guy. The steroid era, still ongoing, likely involved every team, and more players than we can count. Baseball can't have it both ways: It can't celebrate its history and revere its records, and then turn a blind eye when its history and its record book are poisoned.
Very, very well put.

Steroids aside Bonds is an ass. Dan Wetzel on 1270 this morning retells a story about Bonds and what a dick he is. When the locker room janitor was around Bonds would wait until he was done picking up the joint then Barry would peel a sock off and toss it in the middle of the floor letting the janitor (or is it custodian?, nm) know that he missed one. The Janitor would pick it up walk away then Bonds would take the other one off and toss it onto the floor just to be an ass.

The other one Wetzel mentioned is that Bonds was caught cheating on his wife with his mistress......just 19 days after he got married. LMAO - what a prick.

Who roots for such a filthy human?
being that Dan Weisel's word is the newly acquired truth in 50 countries by way of his professional opinion as defalut way of truth telling. did he also speak the lottery numbers?

I dont dispute that theres people who think he's an ass. And theres those who think he's a genuine nice guy. but drawing your own judgement as if this guy has given you the 411 on Bonds is a discredit to your own judgement. you went all out on his humanity on the strength of a second hand opinion of him. :confused:

i'll just say that i dont root for him or against him. but i do feel he gets a raw deal being singled out when the number of guys on some substance of some sort is probally half the league. shyt even pitchers have gotten down on some steroids and growth hormones. if you want to discredit something. discredit the whole MLB. because they knew full well what was going on. but all they knew was that ratings were down and the home run chase sent them up. So they collect money off of Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa. Yet hang players out to dry like they knew nothing. If baseball is a joke it has nothing to do with Barry Bonds. It has everything to do with the people in charge. Laughing at the only guy catching flack is retarded IMO. Especially when asrms all around the league are getting bigger again with no real test for human growth hormones in place and all test samples are convienently destroyed after the first test, thus killing any shot of testing them later when technology catches up in tracing growth hormones.

If Bonds is dirty. then so is a good portion of the league all the executives and gm's who probally all knew about it. and its probally just that. they are all guilty of the destruction of baseball as we knew it. which is fine if Bonds wasnt the only one taking the harsh blame and weight of it on his shoulders because he's known as a "prick". Yea he had it coming being the only prick alive in baseball that cheated on his wife. i know curt shilling woulda never done that.:rolleyes:

either way JMHO

LMFAO!

Nah, God/Allah/Jehovah/Buddha/Satan/Mohammed/whoeverthehellyouworship will find that funny and let you in.
yes trust him. he needs company.;):p

Seraphim, you're too much. I could recount a story from the Pope or JC himself and you would doubt the honesty. Seriously, has there ever been a report or story where you haven't doubted the author or person? I am beginning to think that you have an issue with always needing to be the truth and final word on anything. It's also possible that you have a personal issue with me and just feel the need to take the other side of whatever issue I have. More likely #2.

it's hilarious watching you chop down any and all recounted stories. If it makes you feel better I am sure I can talk to someone about creating a special thread for you where you are the only truth on a subject.

let's back off on the attitude. You clash with me due to my demeanor or politics or whatever that's cool let's just stop taking the other side of every post I make. It's getting obvious. I'll stoke your ego at some point today and you can forget anything that's happened in the past.

<smooch for you>

Wow, thats a funny angle? i said dont invest in second hand stories and you equate it to me saying i know the truth about Bonds.

the only thing i invested my own belief in is that the MLB is more a part of this than anyone. you're drawing your own conclusions about my attitude and "truth" ego.:rolleyes:


Seraphim, you're too much. I could recount a story from the Pope or JC himself and you would doubt the honesty.
no you couldnt. you and I arent cool with the pope and JC isnt having convos with either of us. but somehow dan whoever should be the truth of god himself? interesting logic.:p


Seriously, has there ever been a report or story where you haven't doubted the author or person? I am beginning to think that you have an issue with always needing to be the truth and final word on anything. It's also possible that you have a personal issue with me and just feel the need to take the other side of whatever issue I have. More likely #2.
weird, i've see you adamantly denying any report that contradicts what you believe. but we'll pretend in bizarro world that i somehow said i know more than you or dan. And that dan knows more than everyone. also anyone who authors anything is legitimate truth because no one is slighted or dishonest.;)



it's hilarious watching you chop down any and all recounted stories. If it makes you feel better I am sure I can talk to someone about creating a special thread for you where you are the only truth on a subject.
once again you missed the point. this refers to something pretty general. i said you shouldnt judge who somebody is on second hand stories and opinions. Bonds is a jerk to Dan and a nice guy to someone else. So What. Someone says he cheated on his wife. once again she aint my wife. oh well for her if she took it. thats some naive shit to even waste time judging and bashing someone over on a personal level at that. You'll have to excuse my laughter at someone investing that much hate into someone they got to know on second hand opinion of the media. but fair enough. you're entitled to personally hate strangers for what goes on at their homes and who they are nice to. i just think fruitless thinking like that handcuffs any sense of being open minded in life about anything and anyone.



let's back off on the attitude. You clash with me due to my demeanor or politics or whatever that's cool let's just stop taking the other side of every post I make. It's getting obvious. I'll stoke your ego at some point today and you can forget anything that's happened in the past.
Now Gecko, we've had this talk before. you dont offend me and i better not offend you damnit !!:mad: :D

blah, you factored in a couple game thread disputes over teams that neither of us root for to think i had agenda on you? :confused: yikes, ok nevermind. i better lay off before you tell someone i'm an evil bastard and they end up hating me too.:( Seriously though its nothing like that. and if you stoked my ego i'd be worried about who kidnapped Gecko.:eek:

Not having access to certain individuals, sometimes you have to form an opinion on them through what you hear secondhand. And the vast majority of secondhand accounts point to Bonds being a total asshole, so that's the opinion I have of him.

He's a cheating, selfish asshole. IMO, of course.

Not having access to certain individuals, sometimes you have to form an opinion on them through what you hear secondhand. And the vast majority of secondhand accounts point to Bonds being a total asshole, so that's the opinion I have of him.

He's a cheating, selfish asshole. IMO, of course.
and what are sosa, mcgwire, sheffield, giambi, conseco, palmeiro, and probally every over sized hitter over the past 2 decades? unselfish. from mickey tettleton to jeff bagwell its very likely that they all got over. i dont see him as any more selfish.

i mean if you "need" to have a personal opinion on him personally. then yea you swallow any bs they feed you. though its not much better i could relate more if you drew your conclusion from something bonds said or did on his own.

Except those other players are not in the hunt to break Hank Aaron's record, have not been indicted by a grand jury, are not under investigation for perjury and lying to a grand jury. (this is first hand shit).

Bonds way exceeds the definition of a maniacal self loathing jerk who by all rights deserves to be placed into a category all too himself.

There's enough second hand info out there to make me think that one out of every 5 stories is true and even by those odds he's an ass that doesn't deserve anyone's benefit of the doubt which you shouldn't give him.

Besides, you take the second hand info way overboard. By that definition every investigative story or documentary ever done shouldn't be believed. Dan Wetzel took the information straight out of the book "The Game of Shadows". You should read it but then again it contains a ton of second hand info so you might dismiss that as easy as let say the bible.

XOXOXO

Going back to the Costas NOW show that I saw:

Willie Mays (Barry's godfather for those of you that don't know) said himself the Barry needs to lean to keep his mouth shut. Perception is reality and the media will have us percieve him as a total fuck face. Bonds doesn't help his cause by feeding the media machine with quote after quote.

Love him or hate him, the opinion is yours and yours alone. The thing that chaps my ass is that this, like the T.O. garbage is turning sports into a reality TV show....and in MY opinion, reality TV is the lowest form of entertainment. The Tigers are doing well, The Red Sox/ Yankees rivalry is heating up, home runs are up so far this year, there are plenty of young prospects....yet all I keep hearing about is Barry "fucking" Bonds.

I don't understand why people hate Bonds and think that he doesn't deserve any records. Is it because he took steroids? Or is it because he is an ass to the media-types?

If its steroids, then why are guys like Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro and others getting a free pass? And besides why should his records be wiped out for (allegedly) doing something that wasn't against the rules?

If its because of his personality, who cares if he is an ass? For every negative story about Bonds' I can just as easily find a positive story. Doesn't mean shit.

My point is that, he is unfairly singled out for the whole steroids scandal because he is so good. People for some reason just choose to ignore any other player taking steroids.

I don't understand why people hate Bonds and think that he doesn't deserve any records. Is it because he took steroids? Or is it because he is an ass to the media-types?

If its steroids, then why are guys like Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro and others getting a free pass? And besides why should his records be wiped out for (allegedly) doing something that wasn't against the rules?

I mean what is their to get? The other players you mentioned were not in any way a threat to break the most hallowed record of all sports if they would of been then they would of been hated too.

Secondly, the players above are not under investigation for lying to a grand jury and were never part of a grand jury testimony.

There is nothing alleged about Barry Bonds..it's a fact, provided by grand jury testimony that he used the cream and the clear. Barry admitted to unknowingly using it.

There is also nothing alleged about McGwire or Palmeiro. One admitted to congress and the other was caught. Niether are playing any longer, neither are currently going for any records so there's not much relevant to talk about here.

What's there not to get?


If its because of his personality, who cares if he is an ass? For every negative story about Bonds' I can just as easily find a positive story. Doesn't mean shit.

I am sure you can find many great stories on other self loathing jerks. There's really nothing to debate here. Barry's own teamates hate him and he's been asked to leave ball clubs in the past (pre-MLB). As far as I can see there's not much that one could debate here. He's about as big of a jerk as one could find. This makes me not really respect him all that much.


My point is that, he is unfairly singled out for the whole steroids scandal because he is so good. People for some reason just choose to ignore any other player taking steroids.

Cause the other players are retired and are not trying to break Aaron's record. For this reason Bonds is fair game.

McGwire was guilty as shit.

That Congressional hearing is about the most uncomfortable thing that I've ever watched on TV.

"I'm not here to talk about the past, I'm here to be positive"?

McGwire turned into a huge prick all of a sudden when he was chasing Maris, and it's my opinion that guilt was the reason why.

Bonds treated the media like shit and now they are returning the favor, I think it's as simple as that.

Bonds treated the media like shit and now they are returning the favor, I think it's as simple as that.
basically.

Because he's a great baseball player.

And LMFAO@that janitor story. That is hilarious.


He was a great 5 tool player.


Now he's just a joke

I spent a few years growing up outside of Pittsburgh and was able to see several Pirates games during the Jim Leyland era. Bonds was a jerk. He was notorious for turning down autograph requests to anyone, so much so that little kids would see him on the street and not even ask.

Imagine a ten year old baseball fan NOT asking for an autograph from a local, all-star baseball player. That's the caliber douche bag we're talking.

What a creep.

McGwire was guilty as shit.

That Congressional hearing is about the most uncomfortable thing that I've ever watched on TV.

"I'm not here to talk about the past, I'm here to be positive"?

McGwire turned into a huge prick all of a sudden when he was chasing Maris, and it's my opinion that guilt was the reason why.


Remember McGwire getting all lovey-dovey with the Maris family after he broke Roger's record? While he's hugging them, he's thinking, "I cheated, and now I'll overshadow the legacy of your father." What a douche.

IMO, we should just wipe out the record of every baseball game since Cal Ripken's record. Do it Fab Five style. Pretend the last several years never happened. Start fresh. Get baptized. Something. Trying to reshape baseball's image without addressing past steroid use is like someone on their deathbed using ProActive.

I spent a few years growing up outside of Pittsburgh and was able to see several Pirates games during the Jim Leyland era. Bonds was a jerk. He was notorious for turning down autograph requests to anyone, so much so that little kids would see him on the street and not even ask.

Imagine a ten year old baseball fan NOT asking for an autograph from a local, all-star baseball player. That's the caliber douche bag we're talking.

What a creep.

He also refused to sign the #713 ball for the guy who caught it, who happens to be a serviceman.

But fuck him anyway. Who cares about soldiers these days?

NO. 714

The funny thing is, Bonds had a chance at 714 w/out the 'roids. What a tard.

You're just saying that because he's black





That was my SAS impersonation, good wasnt it?

Baseball is a worldwide famous game. http://xxxxxxxxbigpaperwriter.com/blog/esxxxxxxxxxxxxxxsay...-upon-steroids (http://bigpaperwriter.com/blog/essay-on-baseball-history-and-all-the-truth-upon-steroids) This game let alone American soccer are considered to be non-official symbols of America together with turkey on Thanksgiving Day, Statue of Liberty, cowboy hat, “mommy's apple pie”, etc.

#IAgreeWithEmily 100% let alone American soccer is as American as mommy's apple pie etc.

Nice bump, emilyfreder!

We've been waiting for you.

Baseball is a worldwide famous game. http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxbigpaperwriter.com/blog/essay-on-baseball-history-and-all-the-truth-upon-steroids (http://bigpaperwriter.com/blog/essay-on-baseball-history-and-all-the-truth-upon-steroids) This game let alone American soccer are considered to be non-official symbols of America together with turkey on Thanksgiving Day, Statue of Liberty, cowboy hat, “mommy's apple pie”, etc.
You're just saying that because he's black

Baseball is a worldwide famous game. http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxbigpaperwriter.com/blog/essay-on-baseball-history-and-all-the-truth-upon-steroids (http://bigpaperwriter.com/blog/essay-on-baseball-history-and-all-the-truth-upon-steroids) This game let alone American soccer are considered to be non-official symbols of America together with turkey on Thanksgiving Day, Statue of Liberty, cowboy hat, “mommy's apple pie”, etc.

Is this your Dad?

http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Basketball/92847/92847-9734094Fr.jpg

You're just saying that because he's black

EmilyFreder = #racerealist