This is another exercise where I try to find out if I am a OCD freak or something.

Milk
I start getting suspicious about 2-3 days before the expiration date. I smell it and it smells bad to me, but if I pass it to three other people, they would all say that it's fine. I think that part is mental. Once the jug hits one day past expiry, fuck that, I ain't touching it. I only use it for cereal once or twice a week anyways.

Bread
I'm a little more lenient with bread, but once it's a day or two past and it starts getting "firm" I don't want anything to do with it anymore. Something about green mold growing on something I might eat just doesn't fly with me.

Leftovers
While it technically doesn't have an expiration date, I give it about a two day window max before it's trash.

The floor is now open.

I have a spreadsheet somewhere from the Univ of Texas or something like that, that lists reasonable time limits on food expirations including freezing. I'll post it later.

Around here my wife is pretty nazi about food. Nothing over exp dates no matter what. Leftovers most things one day max. Everything is handled with utmost care and all food if your eating here is of top notch quality with no imperferctions. She's always been that way and she aint chaning.

Being a part of my job I'm pretty decent when it comes to identifying hazardous foods, I usually go with milk for about 6 days after....bread molds are no concern so I look it over and if its fine, its fine.

Meats I use smell/ sight looking for discoloration or a sour odor.

Leftovers comprise about 80% of the "stomach flu" cases in the US every year, so I give them a day or two then toss. Be sure to overcook.

Not to be too graphic, but think about what humans are doing when they drink cow's milk.

Take a huge, stinking to high hell, dirty beast and squeeze some fluid out of its tits and there you go! Yummy!

Not to be too graphic, but think about what humans are doing when they drink cow's milk.

Take a huge, stinking to high hell, dirty beast and squeeze some fluid out of its tits and there you go! Yummy!

Not a drinker of Cows milk?

Not to be too graphic, but think about what humans are doing when they drink cow's milk.

Take a huge, stinking to high hell, dirty beast and squeeze some fluid out of its tits and there you go! Yummy!


Now think steak, eggs, and pork rinds.

Not a drinker of Cows milk?


I do, but not much, only cereal. I just got to thinking about it and how disgusting it actually is.

I think I remember hearing about a study that explained how bad for you cow's milk really is, and how many millions (billions?) that the dairy industry spends on these "Got Milk?" and other image ads to keep people from thinking about it.

They have done a great job, people don't really question it for the most part, at least not the people that I know.

Now think steak, eggs, and pork rinds.

LOL

I don't know why, but eating a fat smelly beast seems a lot more palatable than drinking fluid squeezed out of its tit.

Eggs are pretty nasty to think about too, but damn they are good.

Chips taste awful when past expiration. Just awful.

Here is that document. scroll to page 5 for list and rec's.

http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/store/texas_storage.pdf#search='safe%20home%20food%20sto rage'

chips expire? wtf

Should of known to come to you Herm.

I hope you aren't insulted.

While we're at it, how about 2% milk from the fridge? How long is it good at room temperature? We've been going with 4 hours.

Any idea how to figure out how long the same cold milk will last in a thermos bottle? I know it probably varies based on the type of thermos, but we've basically just been applying the "sniff test".

It sucks getting up in the night and going downstairs to the fridge to refill a bottle. The thermos is my attempt at avoiding that.

I'd have to know the temp of the milk while in the thermos. It should hold above 50 deg. which is fine for milk for 12 hours.

by above I mean less that....which is stupid....I'm stuck on the phone with my sister.

You shouldn't be drinking milk at night. It may not be as bad as say pop, but it is still bad for your teeth because the little bit that stays in your mouth after you swallow becomes acidic. After brushing your teeth before bed you should only drink water. I assume you might mean a baby though since you said bottle. Google 'bottle rot' and you will find exactly what I am talking about.

Anyway I'd say 4 hours sounds good. You probably won't get sick after that but I doubt it's yummy.

Not to turn this into a baby feeding thread, but we are aware of bottle rot.

We put water in the bottles during the night (which we can get from the bathroom tap) but right around 4 am, the youngins get hungry and water doesn't cut it anymore.

So it's either time to get up, or time for a few oz. of cow juice.

And the thought that you even might have considered that I was putting milk in a thermos for myself so I wouldn't have to get up and get it myself in the night made me lol.

In an attempt to keep the Thanksgiving thread pure, I found this old thread to move the milk discussion to.

The floor is open for other questions about spoilage and expiration dates.

Maybe Hermy can take ownership of this (good lord willing).

Anybody else ever check out the expiration dates on things when you're at someone else's house?

I like to check out the salad dressings. 9 times out of 10 you can find some scary shit if you have a few minutes to look.

I'm the expiration-date bastard in my house. My wife gets mad at me, but what the hell woman?! Orange juice is sour and undrinkable about a week before its listed expiration date. Milk I don't even want to smell - it goes out. OUT! Mayonnaise, completely apart from the fact that it's a horrible and disgusting substance to begin with, is a gigantic germ farm that's probably going to explode with Hanta virus all over the inside of my fridge at any second. I throw it away every chance I get, like when it passes the expiration date, or if I get home before my wife does. God damn, how can anyone eat that stuff?

Mayo is fine. The PH is regulated to the point you actually don't need to refridgerate.

---My wife throws shit away so quick. I never have to worry about any of that.

---I drink non-fat milk. I know it can go bad but it doesn't 'seem' like it goes bad as quickly as the boys 2%. When I try his milk after adjusting to nonfat, it damn near gags me.

---Agree on the eggs thing. If you think about that, holy shit, thats pretty gross.

---They say (whomever they is) that if we would see what goes on in butcher houses or something that we'd all become vegetarians(sp?)

Speaking of eggs, I watched an episode of that show on Discovery Channel that the guy eats wierd foods...anyway, he was in some asian country where they let the eggs incubate a while before killing them to that the little bird was half formed. It even had the little beak. It was so gross, but the called it a delicacy there.

I went to get my wife's car washed on Saturday, and there was a guy in front of me at the car wash drinking Faygo and eating pork rinds out of a bag ("it's the Ypsilanti Diet," my sister tells me). It absolutely kills me that there are people who care more about what substances go on the outside of their cars than what goes on the insides of their bodies.

P.S. Mayonnaise is still gross as hell and I don't care what you tell me.

Do you eat cheese?

re:eggs

I eat those fake things in a scramble. Really not much difference. I think they're egg whites with some food coloring.

Funny story! I was a cheese-eatin' mug for a long time until I recently found out that you can't really make cheese at all these days except by extracting rennet (the enzyme that curdles milk) from processed calf stomachs. There is such a thing as vegetable rennet but it's not produced in large enough quantities to sell to cheese makers. I was seriously bummed out because I really like quality cheese and now I realize there's no way to make cheese without killing something. :emo kid:

I definitely keep drugs past their expiration date. The expiration dates on most drugs are a scam. Drug companies have little incentive to have long expiration dates on most products.

Funny story! I was a cheese-eatin' mug for a long time until I recently found out that you can't really make cheese at all these days except by extracting rennet (the enzyme that curdles milk) from processed calf stomachs. There is such a thing as vegetable rennet but it's not produced in large enough quantities to sell to cheese makers. I was seriously bummed out because I really like quality cheese and now I realize there's no way to make cheese without killing something. :emo kid:


Actually you can use lots of acidic substances such as lemon juice. Strangely enough the cheese doesn't have a lemon taste. But you are right in the sense that most cheese you get from the store probably uses rennet.

mmmm, rennet

I pretty much avoid trying to learn how things are made because I'd probably starve if I really knew. That's what the FDA is for.

Yeah, that FDA's doing a bang-up job right now, let me tell you.

Yeah, that FDA's doing a bang-up job right now, let me tell you.
Well, it is part of the government. I'd expect nothing but perfection.

Well, it is part of the government. I'd expect nothing but perfection.

Haven't you heard? Government is not the solution to any problem, it is the problem. The less it does, the better off we all are.

Right?

Haven't you heard? Government is not the solution to any problem, it is the problem. The less it does, the better off we all are.

Right?
Sorry, I should have put it in green. Green is sarcasm, correct?

This is another exercise where I try to find out if I am a OCD freak or something.

Milk
I start getting suspicious about 2-3 days before the expiration date. I smell it and it smells bad to me, but if I pass it to three other people, they would all say that it's fine. I think that part is mental. Once the jug hits one day past expiry, fuck that, I ain't touching it. I only use it for cereal once or twice a week anyways.


I don't think you're an OCD freak on this one. Regardless of the expiration date, the clock starts ticking on milk as soon as you open it and it can easily go a little "off" before the date.

The place where I don't understand expiration dates is with beer. I've experienced skunky beer before but it's my understanding that has to do with exposure to direct sunlight and/or temperature swings, not time. As far as I can tell putting dates on beer is just a marketing scam.

Sorry, I should have put it in green. Green is sarcasm, correct?

Interestingly enough, things typed in green (and white) are indeed to be treated as highly sarcastic.

I got a veggie burger from Burger King today, and they put mayo on it. God damn it. I hope those fucking burger jockeys roast in hell.

Are they stupid? That's just common fucking sense!

Maybe they're run by the government.

Gotta watch out for the man. Big Brother is making ur cheezburgerz.

I don't know why, but I find it ironic that someone who has your principles about food (which there is nothing wrong with that), trusted minimum wage high school drop outs to prepare his food.

It's good karma. Help those in need by providing them with work.

Not a bad resurrection for a thread 1.5 years+ old.

I guess good threads never expire, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOKOKIJJJcjcssjdh cough hack spit

Be careful not to choke on that milk, Glenn. Wait.....is that......EXPIRED?!

I don't know why, but I find it ironic that someone who has your principles about food (which there is nothing wrong with that), trusted minimum wage high school drop outs to prepare his food.

Ehhh, some shit blew up at work. Believe me, I don't like going to Burger King but it's right across the street and I didn't have time to eat anything good.