Post all of your thoughts on the Phoenix/LA Lakers series here.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/series?series=lalpho

WESTERN CONFERENCE
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Game 1: LAKERS @ SUNS
Sun, 4/23
3:30 PM ET
Phoenix 107, LA Lakers 102

Game 2: LAKERS @ SUNS
Wed, 4/26
10:30 PM ET
LA Lakers 99, Phoenix 93

Game 3: SUNS @ LAKERS
Fri, 4/28
10:30 PM ET
LA Lakers 99, Phoenix 92

Game 4: SUNS @ LAKERS
Sun, 4/30
3:30 PM ET
LA Lakers 99, Phoenix 98 - OT

Game 5: LAKERS @ SUNS
Tue, 5/2
TBD

Game 6: SUNS @ LAKERS
Thu, 5/4
TBD

Game 7: LAKERS @ SUNS
Sat, 5/6
TBD

*If Necessary

Suns in 5.

Suns in 5. Kobe will score 75 and win a game.

In the other 4 games, Kobe will just score 50 and lose every game 125-110

The Suns have too much offense and the Lakers don't have enough defense.

Suns in 6. Kobe and Odom will take a game or two. Also watch out for Kwame Brown. I think he'll have a big series.

Suns in 4. this is a joke matchup. I expect the Suns to push for 160 while kobe is pushing for 60.

Odom's been playing like he has balls lately and Kwame is doing what he does nearly every year, show for a month or two that he's worth a lotto pick before going back to suckitude again. Calling this a close one because of the Kobe factor.

What's the record for most points scored in a playoff series by one player?

I have a feeling that record might be in jeopardy.

Lakers in 7. Every post-season needs an upset story and I think this will be the one. The suns are a good but not great team and the Lakers are going into the playoffs with momentum.

I just don't get all the Laker love.

Marion & Nash are going to totally go off.

I would not be surprised if this was a sweep for the Suns.

I just don't get all the Laker love.

Marion & Nash are going to totally go off.

I would not be surprised if this was a sweep for the Suns.

Agreed. I really cannot see Kobe winning this series. I just can't.

Suns in 5.

No loud shout of "NASH!"

Suns in 5.

No loud shout of "NASH!"You did it wrong.



It's not "NASH!"


It's NASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suns in 6. I think that the Lakers will match up fairly well but just don't have enough.

Lakers in 6.

The Lakers are one of the hottest teams in the Association, and Kwame Brown is gaining bigtime confidence. Now, he goes up against a converted guard? Say what you will, but if Mihm comes back for the series, the Lakers will own the paint.

Odom is finally playing up to his potential, threatening triple doubles in nearly every game for the past two weeks.... i.e., playing the Pippen role, though Scottie was a far better defender.

Smush is playing the ballhandler role, his job is to be a pest defensively and protect the ball offensively as to get it into Kobe's hands, which is pretty much how it's supposed to be done under Jackson.

Luke Walton's game has never been better, which isn't really saying much. But I see him in a Kurt Rambis role.

In all, the Lakers are finally gelling as a unit just at the right time. Many of their players are experiencing "personal best" seasons. And more than one expert has noted that this might be Phil Jackson's best coaching performance.

On the flip side, Phoenix is playing nowhere near the caliber of ball they played mid-season. While the Lakers have been surging with convincing victories as of late, the Suns have been lolligagging around, stuck in the two spot, wondering about Amare (he almost made a comeback... probably would have been best if he just stayed off the court).

I wouldn't be the least surprised if Phoenix never gets off the blocks in this series. And if the Lakers can avoid their third period problems, they'll roll.

There is only one player on the Lakers that gets Kwame the ball, and that Luke Walton. IMO thats a pretty easy thing to stop. The Lakers don't play any kind of remarkable defense and that's the only way to beat the Suns because you damn sure ain't gonna outscore them.

Convincing victories as of late? Even Cheif Triangle says not to make much of this last run since its full of garbage teams, all home games, and of course 2 games against the Suns (one they lost and one they won while Nash was out).

This is a sweep for the Suns.

There is only one player on the Lakers that gets Kwame the ball, and that Luke Walton. IMO thats a pretty easy thing to stop. The Lakers don't play any kind of remarkable defense and that's the only way to beat the Suns because you damn sure ain't gonna outscore them.

Convincing victories as of late? Even Cheif Triangle says not to make much of this last run since its full of garbage teams, all home games, and of course 2 games against the Suns (one they lost and one they won while Nash was out).

This is a sweep for the Suns.

I'm not a firm believer of resting your starters the last game of the season. With the Suns, it's been the last few games. The Lakers come into this matchup playing at a high level. Except for Atlanta, NY, or Portland, every NBA team is still an NBA team, capable of having a great night. And the Lakers are STILL the Lakers, losing record or not. Garbage teams will tend to wanna beat the Lakers while they're down, to make up for all of those embarrassing defeats of years past, so I don't buy the "garbage team "approach of your argument. The Lakers last game was a 20 point victory where they were up by 36 at one point until Jackson cleared the bench. And N.O. is not a rollover team -- they were once right in the middle of things until a collapse, so they have talent.

All I'm saying is that the Lakers come into this series on a roll. Sometimes, momentum is all you need. BTW, the Suns are not the Pistons -- that is, consistent play. The Suns have had a few slumps this season. What's to say they're not due for another?

DM if the lakers played anything remotely close to shut down defense i'd give em a shot. But they dont and the suns are going to run them out of phoenix, LA and everywhere in between.

There is no person in this series that has more talent and that is more competitve than Kobe. That's good for at least 2 wins.

Suns in 7.

There is no person in this series that has more talent and that is more competitve than Kobe. That's good for at least 2 wins.

Suns in 7.
one man cant offset a a team. the suns can outscore kobe and odom almost double. i dont think the other lakers can make up for that. And 81 points may beat the raptors, but i dont expect his scoring to beat a playoff team anymore than one game.. if the lakers got the 6th spot i'd buy the idea of a close series. but i'm selling on them holding "their" own in this one. no further than 5 games i'm think.

Safe to say LA cant hang with the Suns if theyre going to score 39 every quarter...

Safe to say LA cant hang with the Suns if theyre going to score 39 every quarter...
kobe can do it. he can score a million points.
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Good first game and if Kobe didn't get absolutely ROBBED on that timthomas foul, the game would have been even more interesting.

Its obviously up to the roll players for the lakers. You know Kobe wont have another game like that. But, can everyone else on that team play the same way?

Its obviously up to the roll players for the lakers. You know Kobe wont have another game like that. But, can everyone else on that team play the same way?
he actually had an uncomfortable game because he was playing within the offense and depending his teammates. he's used to just getting his shot and letting everyone else try to find a way to chip in on the side on their own. i'm surprised he stayed within the offense. If the role players can hold on to their newfound responsibility w/o fustrating the kobmeister, they may have a shot. Thats a pretty big if. If they lose game 2, will Kobe stick to the gameplan?

Oh wow. Look at this!!!

Where's the "Laker bandwagon" emoticon????

Oh wow. Look at this!!!

Where's the "Laker bandwagon" emoticon????
its on the bandwagon with DM. I'm indifferent to this series. I still see the Suns winning in 5. Unless Kobe keeps the faith in the team concept. Which probally wont happen if they lose the next game in phoenix and especially if they lose in LA.

Its obviously up to the roll players for the lakers. You know Kobe wont have another game like that. But, can everyone else on that team play the same way?
he actually had an uncomfortable game because he was playing within the offense and depending his teammates. he's used to just getting his shot and letting everyone else try to find a way to chip in on the side on their own. i'm surprised he stayed within the offense. If the role players can hold on to their newfound responsibility w/o fustrating the kobmeister, they may have a shot. Thats a pretty big if. If they lose game 2, will Kobe stick to the gameplan?

Dude, Kobe took tones of shots in this game that he usually hits. It just wasnt going down for him. He was missing layups for gods sake. I'm saying, if the lakers play a game like they did last night, and Kobe makes 40+% of his shots, LA has a pretty good chance. They have 0 rebounding, and their defense is laughable.

he took 21 shots. he averages 27 a game. he also took 8 of those in the 4th quarter. not really a complete comfort zone. And one other thing. the gameplan of using a team concept and actually really using the triangle caught the Suns off guard. it wont for the rest of this series though. And if it doesnt work as well as before, i doubt kobe sticks to it any longer than 1-2 games..

Luke Walton and Kwame Brown will realize that they're Luke Walton and Kwame Brown and start to suck again. Suns will win this in 6.

Suns in 4. this is a joke matchup. I expect the Suns to push for 160 while kobe is pushing for 60.

lakers take HCA, but suns are probably happy they didnt drop 2.

care to make another prediction?

ps i predicted the lakers would beat the suns (and then the clippers) a couple weeks ago when it looked like lakers would be 7th seed).

Oddly enough, Nash and Kobe played to a statistical standstill.

It's been the fact Odom completely dominated SHawn Marion that has been the reason LA won tonight.

Marion needs to get his shit together, He cant be letting Kobe's sidekick whip his ass like that.

I think suns in 6 still. LA cant play like that fr a whole series.1

Good game. It was actually a fast-paced game and the Suns still lost. I still think the Suns will advance, but the Lakers have played 2 very good games.

It'd be a hoot if Nash wins MVP, but the Lakers win the series.

Phoenix got fuck-all from their bench at home, which was surprising.

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd2/11452/kobe%20nash.gif

GOT CHA BITCH!

that was beyond sick. that was terminal illness-level nasty.

especially after the smack talking and the sasha booyerbitch incident.

that's an OWNED gif waiting to happen

I didn't see the game, that shit's on too late. I'll admit that I'm surprised that PHX lost at home to the Kobies.

From looking at the box score, it seems that Shawn Marion needs to get in gear for sure.

Game 3 is huge, but I won't go as far as to say whomever takes #3 wins the series, as I think the Suns could still come back down 2-1.

I gotta tell you that I cannot say enough about Kobe. I never used to be a Kobe lover but I can't help myself. The guy has taken so much grief the past few years for his maniacal ego but I see someone very different.

Kobe by far is the most competitve baller in the NBA and I don't think anyone else is close. The way Kobe stepped into Nash face after Nash took exception to Sasha was a thing of beauty. When Kobe steps on to the court he's all business.

I just see Kobe as a throw back player of the MJ, Isiah, Magic or Bird mold. He's changed his game these playoffs to be less selfish and he's coaching players out on the floor.

Kobe really is a one of a kind player right now and I think too many people are uneasy giving him his due for some reason. You're witnessing greatness that doesn't come around often. Am I going too far here?

kobe's one of my favorite players in the NBA.

i know some think his competitveness and heir-to-greatness stuff seems contrived, but i agree w/ you, Gecko....i enjoy watching it.

I gotta say Gecko, I'm not surprised that a guy who uses a picture of Michael Douglas from the movie Wall Street (I always assumed that's where it was from) in his avatar would admire Kobe Bryant. However, I gotta agree with the on the court play. Ask me about Kobe the guy and I'll say he's an ass an adulterer and plenty of other negative things (like I'll say MJ was a phony and addict and a pompous fuck) but fuck me if he isn't great and incredible to watch.

I gotta say Gecko, I'm not surprised that a guy who uses a picture of Michael Douglas from the movie Wall Street (I always assumed that's where it was from) in his avatar would admire Kobe Bryant. However, I gotta agree with the on the court play. Ask me about Kobe the guy and I'll say he's an ass an adulterer and plenty of other negative things (like I'll say MJ was a phony and addict and a pompous fuck) but fuck me if he isn't great and incredible to watch.

Yeah I should of separated the man from the player. I admire nothing about him personally, unless he's matured.

this honestly has nothing to do with kobe. besides the fact that he's finally bought into phil's system. its about phil jackson outcoaching d'antoni top levels unseen. this fuck d'antoni didnt make one adjust to what the lakers did in game one until about the middle of the 4th quarter(trapping kobe earlier and forcing him to isolate or pass quicker than he wanted instead of getting the offense running). Seeing him being made to look like a fool(sorry fool) by jackson, takes away any abuse i give Flip for being outcoachable. even he woulda make better adjustments in this one. d'antoni looked more like terry snotts. C.O.Y.M.A.

Other than him "fucking" some ho in Colorado no one knows shit about Kobe the man. And as such all opinions about him and his private life are baseless, unless you happen to think reporters and their articles are fact.

As a player I think Gecko said it better than I can, though he might have gone a bit overboard.

That said I've heard from Laker fans on Scout that when Kobe first arrived in LA his practice habits stunned all the veterans because he was working harder than all of them. He basically put them to shame.

I'm not gonna think he still does that, but it wouldn't surprise me. He doesn't seem like the kind of player who takes a lot of practices off or let's people be lazy.

Oh, and that dunk on Nash is exactly what the little Canadian should have expected. You think you're the MVP? I think not, bitch!

if d'antoni adjusts this wont even be close. but im starting to doubt his ability to coach against people exploiting his teams weaknesses. same thing happened last year against the spurs..

Anyone have a link to that dunk where I can watch it?

Anyone have a link to that dunk where I can watch it?

I thought about being a jerk and giving you a link to page 1 of this thread, but instead I'll just suggest that you click the back arrow to page one.






or click here: http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5541

Anyone have a link to that dunk where I can watch it?
I thought about being a jerk and giving you a link to page 1 of this thread, but instead I'll just suggest that you click the back arrow to page one.






or click here: http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5541

quit being a jerk by giving him the wrong link. not all of us have 200 posts per page :D

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showpost.php?p=113248&postcount=34

Just wathced it. Thanks Matt

Did Nash inhale Kobe's nuts on that dunk?

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd2/11452/kobe%20nash.gif

RAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Kobe has always bought into the offense, but was forced to take a lot shots due to the fact that no one knew what the fuck they were doing in the triangle except Kobe and the other dynasty Laker players. They finally started meshing together after the break, which is usually how long it takes to understand the triangle.Everyone outside of Kobe grew a air of balls and stepped up their game. That's why they've been playing so well lately.

They're still going to lose to Phoenix, but they'll give em a great run for their money.

I have gained so much respect for that skum bag son of a bitch kobe. He played the same game he did in game one, only he hit shots this time. He's amazing.

You guys are ragging on Nash, but I thought he did a nice job getting his feet set and outside of the arc.

A lot of guys wouldn't run under there just to take that hit and get posterized.

Okay, continue on with your Nash hating...

What a game. I stayed up and watched the whole thing.

When did Kobe and Steve Nash become bad ass enforcers? WTF. They must have forgot to eat their cereal this morning.

Kobe to Steve Nash: "Back the fuck up! You back the fuck up!"

Wow, that's street. Who's Kobe gonna step to next--Jonathan Lipnicky?

Did you know that bees can sense fear?
Kobe: BACK THE FUCK UP!

Quick facts:

1. Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.

2. So is Kwame Brown.

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?


The assist-to-turnover ratio is probably the most worthless basketball stat.

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?
Sweet ass behind-the-back passes to Kwame Brown:
Kobe: 1
Nash: 0

Anyway, Tonight Nash truely looks like the MVP of the REGULAR SEASON.

The assist-to-turnover ratio is probably the most worthless basketball stat. Except when Billups leads the category. Then it's the holy grail.

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?
Sweet ass behind-the-back passes to Kwame Brown:
Kobe: 1
Nash: 0

Anyway, Tonight Nash truely looks like the MVP of the REGULAR SEASON.

1. Steve Nash is a PG, Kobe is not.

2. Kobe has did it on less possessions.

3. Kwame Brown is at 5 assists and 0 turnovers, so there goes that stat.

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?
Sweet ass behind-the-back passes to Kwame Brown:
Kobe: 1
Nash: 0

Anyway, Tonight Nash truely looks like the MVP of the REGULAR SEASON.

1. Steve Nash is a PG, Kobe is not.

2. Kobe has did it on less possessions.

3. Kwame Brown is at 5 assists and 0 turnovers, so there goes that stat.

Kobe is a SG and Nash is not, and yet Nash is outscoring Kobe.

What's your point?

In any case, Nash has a vagina, and his muff is parted down the middle.

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?
Sweet ass behind-the-back passes to Kwame Brown:
Kobe: 1
Nash: 0

Anyway, Tonight Nash truely looks like the MVP of the REGULAR SEASON.

1. Steve Nash is a PG, Kobe is not.

2. Kobe has did it on less possessions.

3. Kwame Brown is at 5 assists and 0 turnovers, so there goes that stat.

Kobe is a SG and Nash is not, and yet Nash is outscoring Kobe.

What's your pojnt?

That's exactly my point - I thought Nash was the point guard Jesus. I think he's leading his team in FGA tonight. If not, he's close.

Quick facts:

Kobe Bryant is distributing the ball better than Steve Nash.



Nash- 7 ast 3 TO

Kobe- 7 ast 3 TO

Huh?
Sweet ass behind-the-back passes to Kwame Brown:
Kobe: 1
Nash: 0

Anyway, Tonight Nash truely looks like the MVP of the REGULAR SEASON.

1. Steve Nash is a PG, Kobe is not.

2. Kobe has did it on less possessions.

3. Kwame Brown is at 5 assists and 0 turnovers, so there goes that stat.

Kobe is a SG and Nash is not, and yet Nash is outscoring Kobe.

What's your pojnt?

That's exactly my point - I thought Nash was the point guard Jesus. I think he's leading his team in FGA tonight. If not, he's close.

So....Kobe steeping outside his position=good

Nash stepping outside his position=bad

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/02/lipnicki/lipnicki.jpg

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Are the Suns really this pathetic?

Marion can hardly dribble out there let alone make a 3.

Phoenix is really getting killed on the boards.

So....Kobe steeping outside his position=good

Nash stepping outside his position=bad

Well, when you're apparently the 'motor of the sportscar' and the MVP that everybody relies on for the holy passing touch - yeah, it is.

The Phoenix Bucks. This team has no balls.

Phoenix is really getting killed on the boards.


They always do. They've built their whole team around shooting, shooting, and shooting more.

So....Kobe steeping outside his position=good

Nash stepping outside his position=bad

Well, when you're apparently the 'motor of the sportscar' and the MVP that everybody relies on for the holy passing touch - yeah, it is.

My point is, this isnt really nash's fault. He's been Phoenix's best player, and Kobe has been LA's best player. Theyve cancelled each other out, IMO.

Phoenix is losing because (A) Phil Jackson is killing D'Antoni and (B) LA's frontcourt is demolishing Phoenix's frontcourt.

Even after tonight, I still think Phoenix wins, but damn they are really making me look bad....

Winner of game 4 takes the series, IMO.

I'm pretty sure Nash just said, "I want off this team."

Props to Denny, his home squad is doing more than I thought they could.

So....Kobe steeping outside his position=good

Nash stepping outside his position=bad

Well, when you're apparently the 'motor of the sportscar' and the MVP that everybody relies on for the holy passing touch - yeah, it is.

My point is, this isnt really nash's fault. He's been Phoenix's best player, and Kobe has been LA's best player. Theyve cancelled each other out, IMO.

Phoenix is losing because (A) Phil Jackson is killing D'Antoni and (B) LA's frontcourt is demolishing Phoenix's frontcourt.

Even after tonight, I still think Phoenix wins, but damn they are really making me look bad....

Winner of game 4 takes the series, IMO.

I picked PHX to win it, but then again I was expecting the Los Angeles Kobes. The Lakers have been playing balanced ball and are making some noise. I think the Suns will win the next one, but I'm not so sure that it will decide the series. I think this may go to 7 games.

I just saw a guy with a Smush Parker jersey. LOL@ too much disposable income

Shawn Marion is also pissing away a lot of respect he earned this season. He's missed more layups in the last 3 games than he did in his previous 80.

So....Kobe steeping outside his position=good

Nash stepping outside his position=bad

Well, when you're apparently the 'motor of the sportscar' and the MVP that everybody relies on for the holy passing touch - yeah, it is.

My point is, this isnt really nash's fault. He's been Phoenix's best player, and Kobe has been LA's best player. Theyve cancelled each other out, IMO.

Phoenix is losing because (A) Phil Jackson is killing D'Antoni and (B) LA's frontcourt is demolishing Phoenix's frontcourt.

Even after tonight, I still think Phoenix wins, but damn they are really making me look bad....

Winner of game 4 takes the series, IMO.

I picked PHX to win it, but then again I was expecting the Los Angeles Kobes. The Lakers have been playing balanced ball and are making some noise. I think the Suns will win the next one, but I'm not so sure that it will decide the series. I think this may go to 7 games.

Kobe has really impressed me this series with his leadership.

Kobe just interviewed.

Reporter: "How are the Lakers winning while you score only 17?"

Kobe <in his head>:fuck if I know, I can't believe that ganga smoke asshole's shit works>

Kobe aloud to the reporter: "We're just playing team basketball. We're just ... ... I don't know, playing with chemistry ... ... and as a team ..."

Funny as hell. Props to Kobe for being able to do against the Suns what he wasn't able to do against the Pistons, basically pulling back on the reigns and giving his team a chance.

most obvious upset pick i've seen in a long time.

kobe is the best player on the planet. this series is great--knowing that no one will EVER mention nash as mvp again really does make my day.

but what this series really is all about is coaching. jackson is best--bar far-- of all time. this one series very well could settle it. he's well worth 10 million.

I'm pretty sure Nash just said, "I want off this team."

Props to Denny, his home squad is doing more than I thought they could.

Thank you.

In any case, Nash has a vagina, and his muff is parted down the middle.
That's giving Nash too much credit for stylish hair.

This series is getting real physical, actually this whole playoffs is.


But the Lakers are simply out playing the Suns right now.


BTW, GCOAT, Phil Jackson, what he's doing with this team is unbelivable.

this series is great--knowing that no one will EVER mention nash as mvp again really does make my day.

People will mention Nash as the MVP today, tomorrow and next week.

It will be remembered for a long fucking time.

And that's fucking insane.

A pathetic cocksmoker like Nash is the MVP?

No wonder die hard fans think the league is soft

Fuck Steve Nash. Kobe is owning the shit outa him. I love how 2 games he's tried to act tough and Kobe has gotten right in his face. Excellent. Fuckin great. And that Elbow Brown though, was.....wow. Great. I love it. Fuck that soft ass team. I never thought i'd ever cheer for the Lakers or Kobe, but I hope they win. I cant stand Nash.

Yeah fuck that ferner.

All I have to say is....

KWAME! KWAME! KWAME!

Someone needs to hook a brotha up with a Kwame(or Kobe) sig.

Omfg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kobe Mother Fucking Bryant.


Fuck Lebron, Fuck Wade, Fuck Carter, Fuck Em All!!!!!!!! Kobe Is The Best Player In The Leauge Right Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHA!!!! Nash is raping himself. Best point guard in the league single handedly gives away the win in regulation and then dribbles into a double team and ends up watching Kobe drain a jumper to destroy his team in overtime.

Damn what a series. Great game 4.

Holy Shit!

This Is Kobe's World!

Die Nash Die!

Kobe! Kobe! Kobe!

Nash got jobbed on that last possession. He was fouled, then called a TO, and it turned into a jump ball. The Lakers did the right things to win, and Kobe is a stone cold killer, but whoever that sideline ref by Nash was should've been put out to pasture.

holy crap.

kobe absolutely relishes those moments. Uncle Mxy was right, dude's a stone cold killer. when he got that shot off, i was just about certain it was going in. that's why he's on a plane above the rest of the budding superstars, imo.

people who thought nash was mvp: refs jobbed suns.

people who know kobe was the mvp: regardless of refs, nash fucked up in the two key moments of the game, and kobe capitalized twice (!!).

that was an unbelievable game. not only will people never call nash mvp again, you'll be very hard pressed to find anyone who thinks he's the best pg either. chauncy wouldnt have made those two huge blunders. nor would he have been a turnstile on defense. and im pretty damn sure chauncy would have made a couple of those wide open threes that nash kept bricking in the last 2 minutes (any of which, would have iced the game).

Nash wasn't trying to call timeout, he just said so in the postgame interviews. however, Diaw was. the TNT guys think it was just too late that the laker alerady had hand on the ball. I don't know about that though.

Kobe, game winner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4f3D-DrSXw

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/oly_full.57156086ab018_suns_lakers.jpg

Kobe Bryant is flat out the best basketball player on the planet and its absolutely ludicrous for anyone to think otherwise. The bashing that he takes is riduculous. The fact that Shaqs fatass can't get position late in games to this day should alleviate some of the flack Kobe took for not getting Shaq the ball late in the 2004 NBA Finals. I'd love for Kobe to take the Lakers further than the Heat go, (I realize its a big IF but its not out of the question,)

it was that slavtor guy he prob the worst ref in the nba he has screwed the pistons most of the times also.

Yeah, Kobe has been awesome this series.

It looks like 99 is the Lakers magic number.


Game 2: at PHO
LAL 99, PHO 93 - Final
Recap | Box Score

Game 3: at LAL
LAL 99, PHO 92 - Final
Recap | Box Score

Game 4: at LAL
LAL 99, PHO 98 - Final OT
Recap | Box Score


Holy shit. George Mikan wore 99.:eek:

LOL@Tim Thomas



"We have Nash, the NBA's MVP last year, and he can't get a call," Thomas said, alluding to the play when Parker stole the ball.

Maybe it's because he was never REALLY MVP?????

A side note: Did it really take the return of Phil for Luke Walton to realize his potential? This is how he played at 'Zona!! It's about frikkin time. Odom, too.

This is exactly what Jackson wants. Odom's all-around game (Pippen), Kobe's killer instinct (Jordan), Smush, Luke, Sasha, et al playing key role player positions. I always knew this team had unrealized potential. I also knew the Suns are streaky, and apparently they're going through a downcycle -- at the worst possible time.

This series going pretty much as I thought. Though I thought the Lakers might have a chance on Kobe's back, save for today's heroics. I chose the Suns in 7 but thought the Lakers had a good chance to beat them. Some thoughts..

--Luke Walton is a helluva of a passer.
--Kwame Brown while wild at times has some skills.
--Smush was okay today..had a 2 huge plays. What I got a kick out of was his game 3 performance. He was abusing Nash on the low post that game.
--Kobe: Has any player changed their game more ever from the reg season to the playoffs?

--Tim Thomas ranks up there on my Most hated players list right after Kidd, RJ and Stephen Jackson. I never liked him and hate him even more after this small revival he's having with the Suns. Anyone catch TT fanning himslef after canning a 3 pointer mouthing "Whew I'm Hot". No your gay.

Nash wasn't trying to call timeout, he just said so in the postgame interviews. however, Diaw was. the TNT guys think it was just too late that the laker alerady had hand on the ball. I don't know about that though.
Nash was looking at that ref for something... must've been hoping for a foul call. (Dinner arrived, and I didn't catch much of the postgame.)

There is no doubt in my mind, if I wanted one player to take the last shot, its Kobe. It is what separates him from Garnett Duncan Lebron. Wade is close, but needs to be more proven.

Wow wow wow wow wow. Kobe just gave a big fuck you to all his haters (including me). Dude is unreal. This is his league. Wow. Unreal. Forget the overtime shot he made. The shot he made to get it to there was unreal. He had no angle what-so-ever and he tear dropped it in. Guy is unreal. He's the best on the earth.

Nash = pubic lint

There is no doubt in my mind, if I wanted one player to take the last shot, its Kobe. It is what separates him from Garnett Duncan Lebron. Wade is close, but needs to be more proven.


www.82games.com lists Melo as the best clutch shooter. Then again, were talking "playoffs".

Nash = pubic lint


NAAAAAASSSSSSSSSHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Care to reassess?

Well obviously I was wrong about this series, despite everyone and his brother predicting a Lakers series win, I just didn't see it that way.

Kobe has really stepped up, but on some level it's too bad that Kobe's is the only story getting told, and Lamar Odon is again the man being overlooked. Maybe this series will be enough to get Laker fans off Odom's back? Prolly not.

The only think more sickening than the Lakers winning games in the playoffs is Pistons fans pulling for them to do so, lol.

Well obviously I was wrong about this series, despite everyone and his brother predicting a Lakers series win, I just didn't see it that way.

Kobe has really stepped up, but on some level it's too bad that Kobe's is the only story getting told, and Lamar Odon is again the man being overlooked. Maybe this series will be enough to get Laker fans off Odom's back? Prolly not.

The only think more sickening than the Lakers winning games in the playoffs is Pistons fans pulling for them to do so, lol.


Okay, T-Mac. It's 3-1. If I remember correctly, four wins are needed for a series victory. Don't count the Suns out just yet. Win at home, steal one at L.A., and it's on to a game 7.

(I apologize for calling you T-Mac. That was rude of me.)

Nash = pubic lint


NAAAAAASSSSSSSSSHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Care to reassess?

He cares to go to recess.

Okay, T-Mac. It's 3-1. If I remember correctly, four wins are needed for a series victory. Don't count the Suns out just yet. Win at home, steal one at L.A., and it's on to a game 7.

Normally I would tend to agree, but I don't know how any team recovers from something like yesterday. The Suns had that game won about 3 times.

Phoenix has a remarkable ability to lose close games, but they rarely get blown out and have the most OT minutes this season, so it's not as if they're pansies in the classic sense. The easy thing to say is that they're missing Amare. But the more I think about it, the more I think the issue is being able to keep their pace up. If they can't convincingly win by the 3rd Q, they won't have the gas for thei 4th and beyond. I bet they have a better record than any other team 40 minutes into a given game.

it's really quite simple:

You can not run and gun and win in the playoffs if you don't play D.

People can claim the Suns improved on D, but until the succeed in the post-season and show off that D it's all fucking speculation.

And for the record: I hope the Lakers win and eliminate the wanna be MVP

Kobe proved who the MVP was when he put his nuts in Nash's face in PHX

I didn't know Canadians were so hated.

I have no beef with America Jr.

But I do have a beef with Nash winning MVP.

Kobe has really stepped up, but on some level it's too bad that Kobe's is the only story getting told, and Lamar Odom is again the man being overlooked. Maybe this series will be enough to get Laker fans off Odom's back? Prolly not.

Hubie Brown was all over Lamar Odom's nuts yesterday afternoon, acting like he's God or something, which he is.

The only time Laker fans were on his back was earlier in the season because his defense sucked and was way too inconsistant. He grew some balls after the break and stepped his game up big time, and now all us LA fans love him because he's realizing his "potential".

Kobe proved who the MVP was when he put his nuts in Nash's face in PHX

Um, that only proves Kobe can jump.

By helping his team eliminate Nash's team he proves that Nash ain't that fucking valuable.

The MVP should be able to get out of the 1st round, right?

Or are the standards just gonna keep dropping so we can justify Nash getting the award?

Fuck Nash, love the Raptors so it's got nothing to do with hating Canada

now all us LA fans

:eek:

[smilie=thatsfoul.g:

I didn't know Canadians were so hated.

I think people are have just gotten sick and tired of all these soft overrated, no D playing ferners getting all this undeserved praise.

now all us LA fans

:eek:

[smilie=thatsfoul.g:

Calm the hell down, playa. The Pistons are still my team.

He's just trying to cover up his turncoat colors. As soon as Grand Rapids gets an NBA team Glenn is gone like the wind.

Kobe proved who the MVP was when he put his nuts in Nash's face in PHX

Um, that only proves Kobe can jump.

By helping his team eliminate Nash's team he proves that Nash ain't that fucking valuable.

The MVP should be able to get out of the 1st round, right?

Or are the standards just gonna keep dropping so we can justify Nash getting the award?

Fuck Nash, love the Raptors so it's got nothing to do with hating Canada

I was going for symbolisim, but you way works too

Symbolism?

Kobe v Nash
[smilie=ownagebox.g:

How's that?

Phoenix actually looks like Phoenix tonight.

No telling how long that will last, though...

Kwame Brown in foul trouble is the biggest reason why the Lakers are stinking it up.

Stupid Lakers. :(

Guess we'll have to finish it in 6.

"we"......

god, now I really do want to root for the suns....

Raja Bell wont be seeing the court again for at least 2 games.....

Raja Bell is an idiot.

Actually, I think Barbosa is a better fit for this series than Bell. It may work out to their advantage.

Kobe gets tossed.

Not a big deal game was over anyways. I think Lakers will win game 6.

This kinda reminds me of the pistons-magic series of 2003. Orlando came into game 5 up 3-1 and laid an egg, like the Lakers did tonight, because they were banking on game 6 in their house.

Suns in 7.

Boris Diaw: 25, 10 boards and 9 assists.

If he keeps doing that, Phoenix has found their answer for Lamar Odom.

Orlando had Doc Rivers as there head coach who sucks. Phil Jackson is one hell of a coach and will have LA ready for game 6. Kobe has been here and knows what it takes. That orlando team had tmac running his mouth early.

Phoenix still plays no D. Unless Phoenix is on fire I don't see them winning game 6.

"We don't need an octagon, we've got plenty of open space here, so let him keep talking shit"

"Does he know me?"

lol

kobe is a pussy (see chris childs ownage) and d'antoni is a joke of a coach. letting phil jackson outcoach you with that group of shitheads is an utter embarrassment. d-antoni is just a regular season coach, no adjustment skills to save his life. though i want a game 7, the fakers arent going to lose to the suns unless diaw has a triple double along with nash.

The Suns look like the Suns again.....

LA has stopped playing defense altogether. Their inexperience is starting to get to them.

Suns will go through a shooting slump also allowing the game to stay pretty close.

Smush also looks like crap.

suns are looking crisp and the shots are more open. if the fakers dont contest shit, i dont think they cool off.

LOL@kobe still rolling with shaq's elbow technique i see. copyright infringement

For that great start only a 3 pt lead...

lol the suns can shoot but giving up 71% shooting is sad.

And Kobe shot was very nice.

WOW. kwame w/ a HUGE basket and foul.


wtf am i doing up at 1am?:confused:

2:11 to go in the game, all tied up 100-100

jeebus, kobe is clutch.

103-102, lakers

wow, tim thomas is NOT clutch.....two bricks in a row.

42 sec. lakers up 1.

what the hell is smush thinking? Give the damn ball to Kobe and let him decide what to do.

If the Lakers win this series I really think the clippers would sweep the next series vs the lakers or could go to 5 max

Kobe time.

tied, 6 seconds left.....

Kobe time.

ruh roh.

thats anti climatic

aaaaiirrrballll.......

Can't blow layups now....Suns have to get hot and fast.

Nash is putting on a clinic in OT... he's setting up Diaw and Marion for easy baskets.

It's becoming the Kobe vs Phoenix battle, and that's one Kobe can't win.

Ruh Roh!

Nash just made Odom look like he was a pylon....

over. game 7. suns will win this series.

Goodnight, LA.

Told you, you should have never given the Suns confidence last game....

Good teams dont do that. Good teams go for the kill ASAP.

Those who take homecourt advantage for granted are destined to regret it.

That rule has bitten LA in the ass tonight.

Goodnight, LA.

Told you, you should have never given the Suns confidence last game....

Good teams dont do that. Good teams go for the kill ASAP.
kobe finally turned them into the old fakers. the stand around and watch him try to take over. :D

Kobe time.

ruh roh.
i love kobe time, because it usually means the fakers are about to lose all their ball movement that won them these games.

Wonder what B-diddy is thinking right now?

Kobe was trying for another Hollywood ending and it cost his team the game. That and the Suns executed beautifully in OT, something they haven't done all year.

Kobe was trying for another Hollywood ending and it cost his team the game. That and the Suns executed beautifully in OT, something they haven't done all year.
i felt this shit was inevitible. especially with him yelling at his teammates every other timeout. chucking doesnt count as leadership. for a guy with so much individual basketball talent and IQ. he's still needing to do homework on team philosophy. phil sold him on it for the time being. but its starting to unravel.

oh yea tim thomas gave it to the fakers bench after that 3 pointer in the corner.

Smush Parker was abysmal - over 25% of his possessions turned into a TO. His shot was broke and his defense was subpar.

Steve Nash was lights out. Awesome ball movement, handling, and shooting.

marion=great player ..nash =most important player to the suns. he set up alot of big plays for everyone.

Oh.Hells.Yes.

The Suns have too many weapons.

If you are Phoenix, don't you beg the NBA to hand Nash his MVP at center court before game 7? Talk about getting the crowd fired up.

Of course some will say that doing so will only get Kobe pissed off, but that might not be all that bad of an idea either. If it induces more "Kobe Time", game 7 should go PHX's way.

The NBA hasn't awarded him the MVP yet, so they cant give him something he didn't officially win.

Right.

But they usually give out those awards before a home game right?

I recall Ben getting his DPOY before tip off of a home playoff game before.

If they don't do it now, when will they do it?

I'm saying that the Suns would be wise to suggest to the NBA that the time is now.

EDIT: They gave it to him on May 8 last year.

Man, makes me wish I'd have stayed up to watch. It sure as hell took a long time for Kobe to revert.

So, game 7, eh?


I think the lakers have a shot.

Man, makes me wish I'd have stayed up to watch. It sure as hell took a long time for Kobe to revert.
yea, well the excitement of advancing was too much for him not to go into hog mode. he saw the chance to stick to the billions of imaginary haters inside his head. my favorite thing is that he kinda blamed his teammates.

he said that kwame hadnt been aggressive and neither had smush. but he'll talk to 'em and make sure they stay aggressive. but last i checked kwame was killing the suns whenever they passed to him. the passing it to him part is what got lost. damn if he really thinks he didnt keep the suns in it going all world kobe mode, he might shoot the fakers out of the next game. phil jackson has work cut out for him. but he's still outcoached d'antoni to death and back.

I knew the Suns would force a game 7.

As for win the series, I don't know. I think with HCA they can pull it off.

It's gonna be a good one.

How the fuck did Kobe go into hog mode?

Despite some guys being in foul trouble they were up by 3 right near the end.

Nash misses a 3, board falls to Marion and then Tim fucking Thomas hits the shot to send it to OT? I'd say the Lakers were unlucky and did a lot right to be in that position.

Fact is if Thomas misses that 3 and the Lakers advance y'all would be riding Kobe's jock and claiming it was an amazing performance.

Since they lost the game it's time for Kobe to step up yet again in Phoenix.

If he wants people to love him or regard him as the real MVP then he's got to win Game 7. It doesn't matter how many points he scores as long as the Lakers win people will annoit him.

A funny thing from a Bill Simmons article on ESPN:




http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060505

if Kobe doesn't completely eviscerate Bell in Game 7, everyone on the planet is banned from making any more Kobe-MJ comparisons. We all know that MJ would have dropped 55 on Bell, shut down Nash on the other end and disemboweled D'Antoni for good measure. Kobe, if you're going to steal MJ's fist clench/shake from Game 1 of the 1998 Finals without asking, you need to take this all the way. You cannot lose Game 7. You can't.

It will be like the Pistons-Magic in 03. Game 7 at home, Phoneix has a huge amount of momentum, this will be ugly if you are a laker fan.

Personally I don't care who wins.

I do want the Clippers to bounce the winner ASAP though.

IMO it would be funny as hell to see Brand, Cassell and their guys sweep Nash or Kobe.

Cassell would be talking non-stop for a week.

This kinda reminds me of the pistons-magic series of 2003. Orlando came into game 5 up 3-1 and laid an egg, like the Lakers did tonight, because they were banking on game 6 in their house.

Suns in 7.

Of course, 2 suns wins later and people actually pick up on this....


It will be like the Pistons-Magic in 03. Game 7 at home, Phoneix has a huge amount of momentum, this will be ugly if you are a laker fan.

lakers down 17 in the first qtr

I am so enjoying this.

Fuck Kobe, and fuck the Nash-haters.

Well time for the Clippers to play the suns. I really think that will be a good series.

If Smush played even half way decent after his steal in game 4 this series would have been over in 6 for the Lakers.

Yeah, but the fact remains, his name is smush parker.

i love kobe. fuck whoever says i hate him. he's so easy to depend on for ballhogging. the crowd hurt his feelings and voila, more shots. his buttons are so pushable. Raja Bell is a genius for starting a feud with him. he unleashed his me againsat the world ego. thank you raja outcoached phil jackson :)

also james jones is a pretty good player. the pacers should've kept him. he coulda blew up after artest left.

I am so enjoying this.

Fuck Kobe, and fuck the Nash-haters.

Yeah, because Steve Nash is running the Lakers into the ground himself. It's not like Barbosa is playing better. Oh wait, yes he is.

It will be like the Pistons-Magic in 03. Game 7 at home, Phoneix has a huge amount of momentum, this will be ugly if you are a laker fan.
:cool:

I am so enjoying this.

Fuck Kobe, and fuck the Nash-haters.

Yeah, because Steve Nash is running the Lakers into the ground himself. It's not like Barbosa is playing better. Oh wait, yes he is.

Nope, not buying that one.

Nobody was giving Nash a pass when it was Odom that was killing Phoenix and not Kobe, so fuck Kobe getting any fair treatement now.

I am so enjoying this.

Fuck Kobe, and fuck the Nash-haters.

Yeah, because Steve Nash is running the Lakers into the ground himself. It's not like Barbosa is playing better. Oh wait, yes he is.

Nope, not buying that one.

Nobody was giving Nash a pass when it was Odom that was killing Phoenix and not Kobe, so fuck Kobe getting any fair treatement now.

Difference is, Bryant was still killing too. Nash is having a very average game. Kobe Bryant is the only guy on his team who has done anything so far. The rest of the Lakers are shooting a whopping 16%. It must be that rock solid Suns defense.

As game 7s go, this one was a laugher.

Kobe has laid down. doesnt feel like trying to overcome it himself? :o

Difference is, Bryant was still killing too. Nash is having a very average game.
c'mon Com! thats bias. Kobe was very average by his standards besides one win. he was just sitting back watching phil jacksons gameplan kick ass with kwame, odom, and the funky bunch.

Bye bye Kobe.

The whole team laid down tonight. What a horrible performance by the Lakers tonight.

haha. pussy purple yellow faggots choked. on top of that phoenix ran the score up on them for all the cheap shots.

1. Phil Jackson had his chance to prove he was better than his talent.

He didn't.

2. Kobe had THREE chances to prove he was the real MVP of the league.

He didn't.

Both of them can kiss my ass. Good riddance.

to be fair, phil proved that he can atleast coach better than d'antoni. but he was unable to keep kobe buying into it. and after that moment in the last game where he stopped going to kwame, kwame's confidence seemed to shrink back to normal.

Yeah, I don't know that the Suns almost completely blowing their first round is a knock on Phil Jackson.

When a team blows a 3-1 lead, it's a knock on everybody involved.

It was Phil's choice to come back to LA, he knew his job depended on getting Kobe to get with the program.

When a team blows a 3-1 lead, it's a knock on everybody involved.

It was Phil's choice to come back to LA, he knew his job depended on getting Kobe to get with the program.
phil came back for the money and the bosses daughters fresh pussy. anything else is zen gravy.

And in his first year back he damn near got a shit team to round 2. There was nothing riding on this game for Jackson.

kenny smith working on his kobe sympathy case. :o

Phil seemed to not want to make clear comment on Kobe possibly purposely not shooting.

did kobe not take any shots towards the end?

no

Kobe took like three shots in the 2nd half, which is unlike him in a game 7 situation. I guess he came to the conclusion at halftime that this game was over. A big thumbs down to Kobe on that.

And why are there so many people online on a Saturday night? Don't ya'll have lives? :p

I dont know what Kobe was thinking

well this isnt the first time he's pulled this lay down technique. maybe the first time in the playoffs, but its in his repertoire.

He should have came out halftime with guns blazing, but he just sat back and let the rest of the team embarrass themselves.

I am so pissed off. I wanted a competitive game but I get fed this bullshit. I need to take off some steam on my George W. Bush dartboard.

I think its great that the suns won. Now all they have to do is clip the clippers, destroy the spurs and then my dream of Suns vs. Pistons championship match will be complete.