theMUHMEshow
04-14-2006, 01:48 PM
http://82games.com/random12.htm
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View Full Version : Chauncey not among the top 10 when it comes to being clutch theMUHMEshow 04-14-2006, 01:48 PM http://82games.com/random12.htm Great info... Katrina_32 04-14-2006, 01:54 PM Atleast 3 of our starters are on that List Top 10 looks pretty decent to me. BigggChris04 04-14-2006, 02:01 PM http://82games.com/random12.htm Great info... ... Site dont work for me ... Anyone wanna quote it? Katrina_32 04-14-2006, 02:11 PM Leading "Game Winning Shot" Players Carmelo Anthony Ray Allen Michael Redd Steve Francis Allen Iverson Joe Johnson Tracy McGrady Vince Carter Ben Gordon Dirk Nowitzki Paul Pierce Kobe Bryant Jalen Rose Derek Fisher Pau Gasol Damon Stoudamire Tim Duncan Ricky Davis Dwyane Wade Jamal Crawford Damon Jones Zach Randolph Richard Hamilton Antawn Jamison Jason Terry Gilbert Arenas Mike Bibby Chris Webber Kevin Garnett Chauncey Billups P.J. Brown Yao Ming Tony Parker Richard Jefferson Shawn Marion Baron Davis Mike James Rasheed Wallace LeBron James Matt 04-14-2006, 02:13 PM well, considering the Pistons lead the NBA in point differential, i'd assume that means Chauncey doesn't as many chances as others do. MOLA1 04-14-2006, 02:15 PM 10 times out of 10 I'd rather him take that shot over anyone else in the NBA though. Maybe it's just me, but check the sig if you disagree bitches! Comrade 04-14-2006, 02:16 PM That's shots hit in the last 24 seconds when your team is down by 1 or 2. It's a very mechanical definition of "clutch", but I understand the need so you can gather stats. Notice that Chauncey is the leader in freethrows however. There are numerous times late in the third and early fourth where Chauncey has taken over games and put us back in them, which won't be represented in those stats. Interesting read though. Fool 04-14-2006, 02:17 PM Yeah, the thread title is a poor one as the list doesn't suggest what MUHME thinks it does (its about game winners not "being clutch"). Here's a list tracking the best "crunch time" performers during this season. http://www.nba.com/features/nestle/crunch_time_stat.html Matt 04-14-2006, 02:17 PM plus, their criteria is pretty subjective: 1. With 24 seconds or less, then it truly is a "last possession" situation potentially 2. With a margin from tied to down 2, the team can take the lead with a made basket (including 3's) 3. By excluding a down 3 situation, we don't have the "gimme two point buckets" that defenses will sometimes yield to the quick bucket/intentional foul strategy option you often see exercised. a guy could hit a last shot w/ 30 seconds left to put the team up 1, and it wouldn't count. Black Dynamite 04-14-2006, 02:19 PM Maybe it's just me, but check the sig if you disagree bitches! I call foul on that sig not being recent and what you've done to kahn's slick pimpin hair. [smilie=anxious.gif] http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7705/judson/kahn.jpg [smilie=anxious.gif] ok nevermind. Its an improvement. Hmmm stack hit quite a few game winners in his day. never in the playoffs though. [smilie=angry.gif] BigggChris04 04-14-2006, 02:20 PM Atleast 3 of our starters are on that List Top 10 looks pretty decent to me. ... What up Katrina, didn't know that was you until now ... Chauncey is clearly top 10 clutch wise ... But like someone said, the criteria doenst really apply for all/certain clutch situations Katrina_32 04-14-2006, 02:20 PM Chauncey isn't even on the list when it comes to Top Free Throw Clutch players that's bull Matt 04-14-2006, 02:22 PM Yeah, the thread title is a poor one as the list doesn't suggest what MUHME thinks it does (its about game winners not "being clutch". Here's a list tracking the best "crunch time" performers during this season. http://www.nba.com/features/nestle/crunch_time_stat.html cool, thanks for the link. here's the criteria: The Nestle Crunch Time Stat was designed by the NBA and Nestle to provide an innovative way to measure "Crunch Time" performances -- players who step up when the game is on the line! A formula has been created to measure the top Nestle Crunch Time players, and the formula kicks in when Crunch Time kicks in -- the last two minutes and all overtime periods. Here's the formula: (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) - ((FGA - FGM) + (FTA - FTM) + TO) + 4 points if their team wins Note: If the point differential of the game is greater than 15 points at the two-minute mark, only the losing team's players will be eligible to earn Crunch Time points. Fekz 04-14-2006, 02:23 PM yeah that stat isn't what it should be. chauncey is at least top 5 in clutchness. Katrina_32 04-14-2006, 02:23 PM Atleast 3 of our starters are on that List Top 10 looks pretty decent to me. ... What up Katrina, didn't know that was you until now ... Chauncey is clearly top 10 clutch wise ... But like someone said, the criteria doenst really apply for all/certain clutch situations Hey Chris, so this is where you have been hiding? [smilie=arnold.gif] Black Dynamite 04-14-2006, 02:24 PM its a hard stat to measure i think. but he has been one of the most clutch pistons for us ever. BigggChris04 04-14-2006, 02:28 PM Atleast 3 of our starters are on that List Top 10 looks pretty decent to me. ... What up Katrina, didn't know that was you until now ... Chauncey is clearly top 10 clutch wise ... But like someone said, the criteria doenst really apply for all/certain clutch situations Hey Chris, so this is where you have been hiding? [smilie=arnold.gif] ... Here ... As you can see ... This is me Home-Sweet-Home Darth Thanatos 04-14-2006, 04:02 PM Billups is a great clutch player, easily top five. There are only one or two people I'd take over him in the clutch. WTFchris 04-14-2006, 04:46 PM Yeah, the thread title is a poor one as the list doesn't suggest what MUHME thinks it does (its about game winners not "being clutch"). Here's a list tracking the best "crunch time" performers during this season. http://www.nba.com/features/nestle/crunch_time_stat.html I like that one because it rewards guys like Ben for blocking crucial plays too. Blocking a game winner is just as clutch as making one IMO. Kstat 04-14-2006, 05:50 PM Chauncey led the NBA in that category 3 years ago, and I think we can all agree that he has improved since then... Fool 04-14-2006, 11:07 PM Yeah, its a shame Carlisle isn't here to choke off about 13 points/game and get Chauncey more last second chances. theMUHMEshow 04-15-2006, 08:29 AM I did not post this because I think it is true...just something i stumbled upon Uncle Mxy 04-16-2006, 09:46 AM That 82games.com clutch stat had Chauncey leading with FTs in the clutch. The Nestle clutch stat just shows that our clutch play often involves some sort of killer D move by Ben, which anyone actually watching games could've told you. Ben and Chauncey have been among the top dozen or so in that stat for years. |
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