Most of us here in the state of Michigan are aware of the fact that Drew Stanton will be a Heisman canidate heading into this year's football season. He was a serious canidate last year after the ND game. Whether or not he will maintain that status will probably have more to do with his team than his own performance. Heismans are just not given to quarterbacks of .500 teams.

Even if Stanton is a Heisman finalist, that does not mean he will be a top pick in the 2007 NFL draft. But, Scout.com seems to think he will be. They are doing a two part article on an interview with Drew Stanton. In their preview for the article they state that Stanton will be a Top 10 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft. This surprised me, but excited me at the same time. Michigan State is known for producing great NFL receivers, not quarterbacks. If Stanton goes early in the first round, it will be clear that John L. Smith is putting his mark on MSU at least at that position. If Stanton goes out with a bang and in comes Nichol with the hype, MSU might develop a nice tradition when it comes to the quarterback position.

Anybody else surprised by the notion that Stanton might be an early 07 selection?

Does this mean he won't be playing on special teams anymore?

Hasn't played special teams in 2 years. [smilie=duh.gif]

Anybody else surprised by the notion that Stanton might be an early 07 selection?

Yes. And it's tough to be a Heisman candidate when your team is going to be 5-6 at best. [smilie=fingernono.:

DrTre11 wrote: Whether or not he will maintain that status will probably have more to do with his team than his own performance. Heismans are just not given to quarterbacks of .500 teams.


Moodini31 wrote: Yes. And it's tough to be a Heisman candidate when your team is going to be 5-6 at best.

Is there an echo in here?

I dont know...MSU's offense is such an illusion... I would like to see him in an offense like Florida State, Clemson, Michigan, Notre Dame or Cal. I think his combine will be more important than his season...

I agree on the combine. Anytime a qb comes out of a spread offense, questions will be raised about a pro-style offense. I think his accuracy will help him be a good selection, but he'll have to show arm strength and accuracy in the combine. Scouts are bound to praise his mobility.

Not just because I hate State, but because of some players in the past that slipped, I expect Stanton to be picked on the Sunday of the draft, not the Saturday.

Not just because I hate State, but because of some players in the past that slipped, I expect Stanton to be picked on the Sunday of the draft, not the Saturday.

Whether it's right or not, Stanton has Brady-like qualities that regardless of his combine numbers (unless they're horrible) will get him drafted on Saturday.

Mawkit down.

Stanton would be the white Vince Young if he had a good defense.

Stanton would be the white Vince Young if he had a good defense.

Only on the Wonderlic.

Stanton would be the white Vince Young if he had a good defense.

Only on the Wonderlic.lol [smilie=tool.gif]

I am not ready for this talk yet lmao

We gotta kill time with something

Ok, here is some more detailed analysis as to why Stanton won't be picked in the first round next year. First, look at all the young QB's in the league now. Add Leinart, Young and Cutler. Who is going to need a QB with that high of a pick? Anyone who does will take Brady Quinn or Chris Leak. Beyond the two of them, there will be plenty of other QB's picked ahead of Stanton. Of course you'll want to know who, and I'll have to get back to you on that because I'm trying not to think beyond this week's draft too much.

Ok, depending on what they do their senior year and who needs QB's, I expect Zabransky from Boise St and Kolb from Houston will get some looks - but those are guys whose senior year will likely make or break them. Not a massive list of talent from the senior class outside of that to compete with, but juniors who declare could make the most noise.

Ok, here is some more detailed analysis as to why Stanton won't be picked in the first round next year. First, look at all the young QB's in the league now. Add Leinart, Young and Cutler. Who is going to need a QB with that high of a pick? Anyone who does will take Brady Quinn or Chris Leak. Beyond the two of them, there will be plenty of other QB's picked ahead of Stanton. Of course you'll want to know who, and I'll have to get back to you on that because I'm trying not to think beyond this week's draft too much.

Leak is short and makes horrible decisions, won't be a first rounder.

It will be Quinn, then Stanton as the top QB's.

I'm with DetroitSportsCity, Quinn and Stanton as the top 2. The others will not be selected in front of either of them.

We'll see. Let's just say I'll be shocked, unless State wins 8 or more games and it's clearly Stanton that carried them. Otherwise, I think it's too much of a gamble for NFL teams to take him so high. There are more consistent guys that will be available, and guys with greater potential. He isn't even the best athlete among QB's that will be eligible - if teams will even be looking for that (which would mean Vince Young ends up starting a few games as a rookie and lights it up).

Yes very surprised. I see Eric Crouch when I see Stanton and I don't think Crouch was drafted as a qb if at all and he too was a heisman winner. What's the diff between these two?

Jethro, Stanton is very consistent. He was ripping up everybody he played until he broke his finger at the end of the Ohio State game. The following game against NW is when the inconsistency came into play. You can't fault him for that. Prior to the broken finger, he was putting up 300 yds a game.

Gecko, I'm assuming you haven't watched Stanton play. Eric Crouch? Are you kidding? The difference between the two is that Stanton is a great passer. He doesn't run an option offense either. Stanton is very efficient, makes terrific reads, has a strong arm, doesn't throw interceptions, etc. The only thing similar between Crouch and Stanton is that they can both run.

Like I said earlier, look at Stanton's numbers prior to the broken thumb last year and you'll see stellar statistics.

Tre, I'm talking about consistent throughout a game, not necessarily a season. With Stanton, he'll often start out hot with the offense rolling and then he'll stall out. Last year he ran more than he should have and that's a problem since his running wasn't nearly as effective as it had been in the past. He makes some really bad decisions in the middle of games and puts up yardage near the end when defenses sag a bit and the offense is in desperation mode. Of his 300 per game, I would guess 140 comes in the first, 90 in the fourth, leaving a second and third that combine for 70-ish. That's not consistent. Of course I'm only guessing at those numbers and I could be very wrong, but in the 4 or 5 games I watched all the way through last year, that's the trend I seem to remember.

I'll give you an example. This past year Kerry Collins went over 300 a number of times. In fact, every time he went over 290 his team lost. I know they aren't the same style of QB, but Collins isn't exactly a hot commodity right now because in spite of his ability to put up gaudy stats, he makes some piss poor decisions. Stanton has potential, but if this season and the combines play out the way I think they will, other QB's will emerge as better prospects and Stanton will fall.

Jethro, Stanton is very consistent. He was ripping up everybody he played until he broke his finger at the end of the Ohio State game. The following game against NW is when the inconsistency came into play. You can't fault him for that. Prior to the broken finger, he was putting up 300 yds a game.

Gecko, I'm assuming you haven't watched Stanton play. Eric Crouch? Are you kidding? The difference between the two is that Stanton is a great passer. He doesn't run an option offense either. Stanton is very efficient, makes terrific reads, has a strong arm, doesn't throw interceptions, etc. The only thing similar between Crouch and Stanton is that they can both run.

Like I said earlier, look at Stanton's numbers prior to the broken thumb last year and you'll see stellar statistics.


You're probably right. I haven't watched Stanton enough to know he had a strong arm. Stanton and Crouch look alike though don't they?

Wasn't Crouch like 5'10"...or, in other words, "Flutie-esque"?

Sorry Jethro, but you are wrong the consistency and on running too much. Stanton actually ran much less last year than he did his sophmore year. The coaches actually blaimed themselves for being too careful with him. Smith mentioned the fact that UM couldn't stop him running as a sophmore and they rarely let him run against UM last year.

Prior to the broken thumb, Stanton was consistent throughout the game. ND and OSU game were great examples of that. He tore it up in all 4 quarters.

Ok, I'll go ahead and give Stanton some love here. In a recent article hyping Brady Quinn, it talked about how he studied game film of Stanton against Ohio State so he could learn how to beat the Buckeyes. I would say that's quite a compliment to Stanton. If the likely #1 pick in the country next year is watching you hoping to learn stuff from you, you must be pretty good.

There, I said it. Don't anybody ever say I refuse to give credit to a Spartan when credit is due.

haha Props Jethro. That's tight!

From talking with my friends, it seemed like most people didn't catch that OSU game for whatever reason. I know Moodini was over in AA for the Michigan game so he didn't see it. But, Stanton shredded that Buckeye defense. Keep in mind it was touted as the best D in the country at the time. He honestly looked like he could do whatever he wanted. It was very similar to his 1st half performance against Michigan a couple of years ago before he got hurt.

Hopefully he can find that magic and much more this year. AND STAY HEALTHY most importantly.

haha Props Jethro. That's tight!

From talking with my friends, it seemed like most people didn't catch that OSU game for whatever reason. I know Moodini was over in AA for the Michigan game so he didn't see it. But, Stanton shredded that Buckeye defense. Keep in mind it was touted as the best D in the country at the time. He honestly looked like he could do whatever he wanted. It was very similar to his 1st half performance against Michigan a couple of years ago before he got hurt.

Hopefully he can find that magic and much more this year. AND STAY HEALTHY most importantly.

Yeah, I missed that one, I was at the Michigan-Penn State miracle game. I'll give the cat some props too. I thought he was a flash in the pan, system QB like Texas Tech's QBs. But the kid can play, no way around it, it's not always pretty, but he makes plays. Too bad his team is coached by a riddler and his team is full of jesters.

Moodini31 wrote: Too bad his team is coached by a riddler and his team is full of jesters.

You replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler you're referring to and Michigan is playing for the National Championship.

Moodini31 wrote: Too bad his team is coached by a riddler and his team is full of jesters.

You replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler you're referring to and Michigan is playing for the National Championship.

If we replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler I don't think we would have landed Mallett because JLS would have been parachuting with a fan on his back landing on the peak of Mt. Kilamajaro. And I think our players would be "playing their hearts out and the coaches would be screwing it up".

Moodini31 wrote: Too bad his team is coached by a riddler and his team is full of jesters.

You replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler you're referring to and Michigan is playing for the National Championship.

If we replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler I don't think we would have landed Mallett because JLS would have been parachuting with a fan on his back landing on the peak of Mt. Kilamajaro. And I think our players would be "playing their hearts out and the coaches would be screwing it up".

Wouldn't be the 'Crown on the Field' or the uniforms, or anything like that out of Carr ever would it?

Sorry, To call MSU a team of jesters, when we'll most likely have the 1st or 2nd offense in the Big Ten (OSU in question), there is at least some talent (Long is the only player on UoM's offense that would start on MSU's, at least clearly, maybe Manningham, but that is up for debate), not just 'jesters'. Now the defense has shown that tendency, but showed signs of improvement in the spring.

So, both coaches have their moronic moments, and both teams have some holes, and some good parts, so I wouldn't be quite so abrasive and ignorant if I were you. But that's just me.

Moodini31 wrote: If we replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler I don't think we would have landed Mallett because JLS would have been parachuting with a fan on his back landing on the peak of Mt. Kilamajaro. And I think our players would be "playing their hearts out and the coaches would be screwing it up".

Didn't Nichol commit to State long before Mallet committed?

What good is a great quarterback commitment if your coach runs a stone age offense?

Announcers during MSU's game yesterday stated that Stanton will most definately be in a suit come draft day next year and they said they believe he won't be sitting for very long.

Super tight

Moodini31 wrote: If we replace Lloyd Carr with that riddler I don't think we would have landed Mallett because JLS would have been parachuting with a fan on his back landing on the peak of Mt. Kilamajaro. And I think our players would be "playing their hearts out and the coaches would be screwing it up".

Didn't Nichol commit to State long before Mallet committed?

What good is a great quarterback commitment if your coach runs a stone age offense?

LOL at the riddler with a fan on his back, but that last statement is definately true.

I just dont' see Stanton being successful in the NFL. He's not that fast, he'll get killed by NFL LBs, and his arm is not that strong. I think he puts up good numbers because of the system he's in a la all the Texas Tech QBs and Danny Wuerrfel. Stanton is better than the TT QBs and is pretty accurate, but you can't run the drunken sailor spread in the NFL. It's just not going to work.

Once again, what a surprise...Moodini is hating on a Spartan. That's new.

Well, it seems that several NFL scouts disagreed after last season and told Stanton that he would fall somewhere between the 1st and 2nd round.

Once again, what a surprise...Moodini is hating on a Spartan. That's new.

Well, it seems that several NFL scouts disagreed after last season and told Stanton that he would fall somewhere between the 1st and 2nd round.

That would be the secret round, round 1.5, sorta like that half floor in "Being John Malkovich".

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/44/200px-Being_John_Malkovich_floor.jpg

That's the way the announcers worded it. I'm guessing they meant late 1st, early 2nd round.

No.

Your wrong Mood. Stanton WILL be a top 10 pick in 2007.












































In the CFL.

Your wrong Mood. Stanton WILL be a top 10 pick in 2007.



In the CFL.


AHHAHAHA Jethro. You had me there man. I was like Jethro, WTF? And I kept scrolling and scrolling and there it was! Well played my brotha. [smilie=great.gif]