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This chat is going to be out of control tonite. Last night's chat is going to seem like child's play.

I will be shocked if we can pull out a win tonight. Both teams played last night, but Detroit is travelling and it's the last game of a grinding stretch of games. They don't play again until the 8th I believe, after tonight and then not to the 11th.

Keys to victory:

1. Keep Kobe near his average, and make the rest of those scrubs beat you.

2. See above.

3. Don't forget #1, above.

4. Did I mention that they will win as long as they keep Kobe near his average, and make the others beat them?

5. All of the above.

How many threes tonight? i predict we're going to shoot 35 threes tonight! [smilie=anxious.gif]

We need to get physical, earn a couple fouls and get these guys out of theri comfort zone.

We need to get physical, earn a couple fouls and get these guys out of theri comfort zone.

Careful what you wish for, Herm.

http://www.baynews9.com/images/news/2005/12/30/LAKERS_BRYANT_SUSPENSION.jpg


Any player that was going to come down the lane at that point in time, I was going to let him know that he just can't walk through there," Bryant said after the game. "I think we as a team have to do a better job of establishing that. And me, as a leader of the ballclub, I've got to take the initiative to do that -- and hopefully, everybody will see that.

"This being our home court, people come here and think it's Hollywood and all sorts of stuff, so they think they'll come down [the lane] and look pretty and shoot jump shots and dunk the ball and finger-roll the ball and do all sorts of cute stuff. And we've got to stop that.

Any player that was going to come down the lane at that point in time, I was going to let him know that he just can't walk through there," Bryant said after the game. "I think we as a team have to do a better job of establishing that. And me, as a leader of the ballclub, I've got to take the initiative to do that -- and hopefully, everybody will see that.

"This being our home court, people come here and think it's Hollywood and all sorts of stuff, so they think they'll come down [the lane] and look pretty and shoot jump shots and dunk the ball and finger-roll the ball and do all sorts of cute stuff. And we've got to stop that.

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/miscpics/kobe_stfu.jpg

LMAO.

Nice.

We need less of that and more of this:

http://www.cnnsi.com/basketball/nba/news/2000/04/02/kobe_fight_ap/lg_bryant_ap_01.jpg

i'm very curious to see how Flip distributes the minutes tonight. will Delfino get another DNPCD? is Flip giving Delk lots of minutes now to see how he produces, before the playoffs? will Delfino look at it as an insult that Delk comes in and gets nearly all of his minutes?

I'm personally of the belief Delfino will be gone from the Pistons when he gets the chance. Hell he might even quietly ask for a trade next season. I mean he has a coach who FORGETS HE'S THERE (lol), he outperforms pretty much everybody on the bench and is still behind Evans and now probably Delk on the rotation, it doesn't matter how well he produces. I think he'll go to a team where he can get a conistent 20+ minutes a night.

It'd be hilarious though if Delk got all of Delf's minutes. We all wanted Delk to come in and play at PG and instead he takes over the one player most of us want to see get more minutes.

Delifno has zero room to complain until he starts performing on offense.

Let's not kid ourselves, Delfino has made it a LOT easier for FLip to bench him, with his awful shooting.

Not to Delfino: You shoot %40 from the field and %32 from the arc. You average 0.2 more assits than turnovers.

Start putting points on the board, and then you can have a leg to stand on.

Kstat coming though in the clutch. And alls I have to say is.....DUH!

Delifno has zero room to complain until he starts performing on offense.

Let's not kid ourselves, Delfino has made it a LOT easier for FLip to bench him, with his awful shooting.

Not to Delfino: You shoot %40 from the field and %32 from the arc. You average 0.2 more assits than turnovers.

Start putting points on the board, and then you can have a leg to stand on.
He's better than the numbers. But i mean damn if you call a play setting him up to shoot 3's on the wing instead of setting him up for what his strengths are. Expect lower percentage shooting. Oh yea i like all those shots Delk nailed last night. [smilie=2thumbsup.g:

Seriously though it would suck to lose him because Flip doesnt get how to use him or Tay for that matter. For a guy with such a supposed deep playbook he seems to have alot of the same shit drawn up.

Delk's had one game to prove his worth. Delfino's had a whole season.

And Delfino hasn't done a damn thing consistently on the offensive end this year. He's shown a little of everything, but a lot of nothing.

Sorry, but I've seen players put up much better numbers than Delfino and still get the hook. It's his own fault for not taking the job. It's not as if Mo didn't give him enough chances.

And Delfino hasn't done a damn thing consistently on the offensive end this year. He's shown a little of everything, but a lot of nothing.
on defense he's been very consistent. but that seems to be getting overlooked. whatever though. you can hype up your hate for him by exaggerating. but to say he's done nothing shows that its more about you disliking him than anything.

its all good though. to each his own.

Uh, yeah, I REALLY hate Delfino.

I HATE him so much that I suggested STARTING him in the prince thread.

But yeah, if I say anything bad about Delfino it's not because I really think he's underperforming, it's just because I hate him. Good one. You must be super-fun at parties.

Any attempt to say Delfino had no right to be benched is blatent homerism. Neither he nor Mo is earning more minutes right now. Whomever Flip picks really is up to him. Delfino sure isn't forcing Flip to leave him on the floor more.

Ah well, to each his own....

Uh, yeah, I REALLY hate Delfino.

I HATE him so much that I suggested STARTING him in the prince thread.

But yeah, if I say anything bad about Delfino it's not because I really think he's underperforming, it's just because I hate him. Good one. You must be super-fun at parties.

Any attempt to say Delfino had no right to be benched is blatent homerism. Neither he nor Mo is earning more minutes right now.

Ah well, to each his own....
No need to get your tampon wet. Nothing to take to heart. [smilie=angel.gif]
Either way homerism is saying that him and Mo evans are the next Jordan. Actually i'm stating he's earned his time on defense. The bench wasnt scoring much in the first place. I'd prefer to have the best defenders on the floor off the bench, to improve the offensive chances. Something i saw improve with him and hunter on the court. Honestly if the bench can atleast play defense i have less worries about them being out there. Whats the point of Delk finally hitting a shot only to have ray allen score 15 on him? Its a lil narrow sighted to just look at the whether he hit his shots spectrum of grading Delfino. Or his assists in an offensive scheme that makes it next to impossible for a SG/SF to get any assists outside of giving it to sheed or Dice..

Also arent you a lil too old to go to any worthwhile parties anyways?

You do understand im kidding with you. Lighten up Kstat

Any attempt to say Delfino had no right to be benched is blatent homerism. Neither he nor Mo is earning more minutes right now. Whomever Flip picks really is up to him. Delfino sure isn't forcing Flip to leave him on the floor more.


That's fine, but Tayshaun is earning LESS minutes. And it's not like Delfino has been given enough minutes to have a shot at earning more.

Any attempt to say Delfino had no right to be benched is blatent homerism. Neither he nor Mo is earning more minutes right now. Whomever Flip picks really is up to him. Delfino sure isn't forcing Flip to leave him on the floor more.


That's fine, but Tayshaun is earning LESS minutes. And it's not like Delfino has been given enough minutes to have a shot at earning more.
i actually disagree with that too FP22. I dont think theres a reason to cut back tayshan significantly. and the time we need to cut from him is to get him rest. but i dont think he's earned less minutes. he played rashard lewis tougher than most could and carmello was irrelevent when tay was on him. once again i think people have totally forgotten the importance of defense in the Flip era.

as far as tay's offense is concerned. this isnt rocket science. call his number early and often to start the game off. it led to better production last year when he was slumping and the year before in the playoffs.

i actually disagree with that too FP22. I dont think theres a reason to cut back tayshan significantly. and the time we need to cut from him is to get him rest. but i dont think he's earned less minutes. he played rashard lewis tougher than most could and carmello was irrelevent when tay was on him. once again i think people have totally forgotten the importance of defense in the Flip era.

as far as tay's offense is concerned. this isnt rocket science. call his number early and often to start the game off. it led to better production last year when he was slumping and the year before in the playoffs.

I don't see how anyone can say that Tayshaun should be playing 40+ minutes when he isn't rebounding, scoring well, or really shutting down his man. Against Kobe is one thing, because he has a history of playing him well, but Rashard always takes him to school in the post. Last night, the only thing that stopped Rashard was his teammates not passing him the ball. He scored at will when he did get it. On top of that Tayshaun has a history of wearing down as the season goes on. I just don't see the point of killing him in the regular season when he has a couple very capable backups.

Eli takes center stage before the game:


10:40 pm [BubblesTheLion]: There is no part of Eli that isn't ugly
10:40 pm [matt]: LOL
10:41 pm [Kstat]: ive never met an eli that wasnt ugly

How our resident Kobe stopper doing??

I don't see how anyone can say that Tayshaun should be playing 40+ minutes.
Two things. I never said he should play 40 minutes. I said he shouldnt play 30 or less minutes as if he was completely sucking.

Also dont make excuses for the hard work he put out there guarding Lewis. He bust his ass last night.



Either way this aint about tay or delfino. Its about Flip. his rotations suck. end of story.

How our resident Kobe stopper doing??
They arent putting him on kobe much=15 first quarter points for the kobmeister

How our resident Kobe stopper doing??
They arent putting him on kobe much=15 first quarter points for the kobmeister

BS.

Tay was on Kobe and couldn't do shit to stop him.

all the world can rest easy, Delfino makes his appearance:


11:22 pm [Kstat]: DELFINO!
11:22 pm [BubblesTheLion]: sweet!
11:22 pm [H1Man]: delfino is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:22 pm [matt]: Delfino in
11:22 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: dunk? ohj you mean jump for suicide
11:22 pm [Kstat]: he's still alive
11:22 pm [matt]: lol
11:22 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: fuck delfino
11:22 pm [Kstat]: ball didnt lie
11:22 pm [H1Man]: Fuck Flip
11:22 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: delfino will be benched after he gets a stop
11:22 pm [Unclecliffy]: Delfino is still receovering from the flu he had in November
11:22 pm [Train Wreck]: ball never lies
11:22 pm [metr0man]: Hunter n Delfino should be the new pitbulls
11:22 pm [Kstat]: it lied there
11:23 pm [Kstat]: delfino's padding his stat sheet already
11:23 pm [matt]: delfino looks like he just woke up
11:23 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: delfino looks like he was sleeping
11:23 pm [BubblesTheLion]: Delfino > kobe

Chauncey with the buzzer-beater! [smilie=2thumbsup.g:

Chauncey hits a two threes in the waning seconds of the 1st half to cap off his 20pt first half...including a buzzer beating three:


11:39 pm [matt]: WOW
11:39 pm [Kstat]: ridiculous
11:39 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: booyourbitch
11:40 pm [Unclecliffy]: HAHAH
11:40 pm [matt]: "Chauncey, I'mYourBitch"
11:40 pm [Unclecliffy]: WHO ARE YOU SUPERMAN
11:40 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: damn
11:40 pm [H1Man]: oph
11:40 pm [matt]: CHAUNCEY!@!!!!!!!!!!
11:40 pm [BubblesTheLion]: OHHHHHHHHHHh
11:40 pm [H1Man]: ohhhh
11:40 pm [Kstat]: HAHA
11:40 pm [BubblesTheLion]: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
11:40 pm [metr0man]: its like flip has a rule "only 10 bench minutes allowed for each position" (10 for guards, 10 for
forwards) and then crams whoever bench players he wants to play in them
11:40 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: wooooo
11:40 pm [Train Wreck]: Nice
11:40 pm [Glenn Loves Blaha]: Don't you wanna go for a ride?
11:40 pm [Unclecliffy]: HIT THAT MOTHERFUCKER
11:40 pm [BubblesTheLion]: BIGSHOT IS OUT OF HIS MIND!!!
11:40 pm [Unclecliffy]: I'M SUPERMAN BITCH
11:40 pm [metr0man]: OOOHH CHAUNCEY THAT WAS ABSUUURRDD
11:40 pm [Kstat]: TAKE THAT ODOM YOU FUCK
11:40 pm [fekz]: BILLUPS
11:40 pm [matt]: Chauncey hit the buzzer beater!!
11:40 pm [metr0man]: AAABBSSUUURRRDD
11:40 pm [Unclecliffy]: KOBE WHO
11:40 pm [matt]: 20 points in the first half
11:40 pm [Glenn Loves Blaha]: ~cue Rob Thomas~
11:40 pm [Flip Hates Defense(defenders will be punished)]: man came we make the staples center our second home
court?
11:40 pm [Kstat]: Chauncey: whatever Odom can do I can do better
11:41 pm [H1Man]: Billups is a God
11:41 pm [matt]: BooYourBitch's ass must be sore
11:41 pm [metr0man]: Billups is pissed about how bad he played las time they played LAL
11:41 pm [Unclecliffy]: If basketball was a religion, chauncey would be the pope

Like in Denver, I'm betting we lose our legs in the second half. At least LA is on a back-to-back as well.

The rebounding numbers are disgusting though. I guess it is to be expected when you have four perimeter players and only Ben in the low post though.

That was one of the most disgusting, pathetic, and awful displays of basketball I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.

So glad I got off work early to watch that crapfest.

TRADE TAYSHAUN!!

FIRE FLIP!!

BENCH SHEED!!

THE SKY IS FALLING OH NO!!!!

one-on-one.... brick
one-on-one.... turnover
one-on-one.... brick
one-on-one.... turnover
one-on-one.... brick
one-on-one.... turnover
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I wonder... Did Flip actually call plays during the 3rd and 4th quarters? How many times did Rip, Tayshaun, and Evans go one-on-one with zero results during the second half? And how about Sheed chucking threes? Flip needs to shorten that leash.

As Bill the Cat from Bloom County used to say...

"Ack!"

Sheed, Tay, and Chauncey need their asses in the post and exploit their mismatches.

This is just terrible, I hate watching us chuck 3s for 3 quarters.

Fuck this jump shooting team.

Yeah, Chauncey should have been posting up Kobe all quarter....a clear mismatch.

Same with Tay on Odom too, who is only bigger and stronger....

Fuck this jump shooting team.

But we have a great record!!!

The title is ours!!!

Yeah, Chauncey should have been posting up Kobe all quarter....a clear mismatch.

Same with Tay on Odom too, who is only bigger and stronger....

I recall getting them on a switch a couple times

Guess what we did...

ttttttttttttttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhreeeeeeeeeeee eee... clunk.

Delk>>>>Lindsey>>>>>Delfino>>>>Evans>>>>>>Prince

Delk>>>>Lindsey>>>>>Delfino>>>>Evans

I'll just say Delk > Bench. Lindsey didn't do anything. Delfino was so-so. Evans.... nothing. Delk needs to play a lot more. He plays good defense, he can hit shots, and he can drive the lane.

Now what can we do with Tayshaun... [smilie=arrgh.jpg]

EDIT: haha, nice call on editing in Prince. When he started that one-on-one ball at the end of the third it was the big momentum swinger.

Delk>>>>Lindsey>>>>>Delfino>>>>Evans

I'll just say Delk > Bench. Lindsey didn't do anything. Delfino was so-so. Evans.... nothing. Delk needs to play a lot more. He plays good defense, he can hit shots, and he can drive the lane.

Now what can we do with Tayshaun... [smilie=arrgh.jpg]

EDIT: haha, nice call on editing in Prince. When he started that one-on-one ball at the end of the third was the big momentum swinger.

Fuck a Prince.

"(The Lakers) were extremely aggressive," Pistons coach Flip Saunders said. "We got pounded on the glass and they took things to the basket. We played out of character defensively. We were switching and getting little (guys) matched on big (guys) and we took the easy way out by settling for jump shots."

Okay, now correct it Flip.

We know you can be a nice guy and be a pal with the players, now can you bust them in the chops? Because it's time.

I haven't been able to watch any of these road games (kids aren't conducive to 10pm starts). Overall, its pretty terrible, loss to Denver, squeak by Seattle, loss to Lakers. These aren't the cream of the crop here. Schedule excuse is BS. It looks like the Pistons aren't nearly as motivated as they were before the All-Star break.

As for this game. When the Lakers out assist you (rebounding was already touched on, so I'll let that be) you are doing something wrong. The Pistons just lost to a team with a "Sasha" on their bench.

I agree time for Flip to start earning his money and coach. He can manage fairly well but I am not convinced this guy can coach. To be honest we won't find out till the playoffs but something tells me there's gonna be some problems here.

The reason we lost:

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8962/sheedshots8ih.jpg

Sheed was jacking everything up in the second half, and looked terrible.

Yes, Rasheed was the definition of chucker last night.

We lost because we were too tired to stay in front of people defensively. changing cities for 11 straight games will do that to your legs.

That was one of the most disgusting, pathetic, and awful displays of basketball I have ever had the misfortune of seeing..

And it looked so good for one half. then the chucker floor caved in. we shot the lakers back into the game. [smilie=angryfire.g:

Yeah, Chauncey should have been posting up Kobe all quarter....a clear mismatch.

Same with Tay on Odom too, who is only bigger and stronger....
Nope but sheed whose bigger and stronger than all of them should. and Rip should've took advantage of smush.

Yeah, Chauncey should have been posting up Kobe all quarter....a clear mismatch.

Same with Tay on Odom too, who is only bigger and stronger....
Nope but sheed whose bigger and stronger than all of them should. and Rip should've took advantage of smush.

Sheed is taller but not STRONGER than anybody.

He's 230 fucking pounds and you want him to try to back down centers? WTF? Did I miss a meeting where it was decided that Sheed was capable of being a power player?

Kwame outweighs Sheed by 20 lbs.

Mihm outweighs Sheed by 35 lbs.

BRIAN COOK outweighs Sheed by 30 lbs.

Someone care to explain to me how he's supposed to push these guys around in the paint?

Sheed's got a lot of length and a great shot. Epecting him to play ike a guy 260 lbs is beyond ridiculous.

Yeah, Chauncey should have been posting up Kobe all quarter....a clear mismatch.

Same with Tay on Odom too, who is only bigger and stronger....
Nope but sheed whose bigger and stronger than all of them should. and Rip should've took advantage of smush.

Sheed is taller but not STRONGER than anybody.

He's 230 fucking pounds and you want him to try to back down centers? WTF? Did I miss a meeting where it was decided that Sheed was capable of being a power player?

Kwame outweighs Sheed by 20 lbs.

Mihm outweighs Sheed by 35 lbs.

BRIAN COOK outweighs Sheed by 30 lbs.

Someone care to explain to me how he's supposed to push these guys around in the paint?

Sheed's got a lot of length and a great shot. Epecting him to play ike a guy 260 lbs is beyond ridiculous.
so you saying those guys can defend them in the post? LOL.... If so you're smoking some crazy shit on that one. If not then why are you even running a pre boxing weigh in?

And how do you overequate shit to the most extreme extra literal level? I didnt say sheed needed to shaq fu them down there. When i said bigger and stronger i was referring to his level of skill and length down there vs their level of defense which is a major advantage. You make seem like weight is the deciding factor in a good post game. Been watching too much shaq and david harrison i guess. [smilie=arnold.gif]

Also i was refrring to the several switches that left a smaller player on Wallace that ended in a three point brick instead because they didnt look his direction for a split second.

Sheed could've dominated them down low all night if he was so inclined. Thats what i mean by bigger and stronger down there. [smilie=2thumbsup.g:

Maybe the Lakers simply outplayed the Pistons....

[smilie=alpacacall.:

Maybe the Lakers simply outplayed the Pistons....

[smilie=alpacacall.:

I say we kill him.


Even if he is right.

Actually, I'd say he's partially right.

We certainly played worse than the Lakers, is that the same thing as they played better?

Don't hate...appreciate.

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2006-03/22269367.jpg

The Lakers were truly the dominant team last night. Talk about a bitch-made spanking. Whoa!


She really didn't say that, Glenn.