Newest feature on ESPN: Trade Machine

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

It even tells you how much money you need to add/subtract from a deal to make it work.

One less reason to head over to RGM...

way better than realgm's, but it doesnt list years remaining on contract on 1st page. other than that its very cool.

One less reason to head over to RGM...


So we're down to -3?

RealGM had to get some loot from that. That's a total ripoff.

STFU PistonPete.

I'm calling you that as long as you have that avatar.


Take care.

PistonPete was always a very undervalued poster...

PistonPete was always a very undervalued poster...


He was certifiable in his player evaluations.

Sweet, I just traded Kelvin Cato for Brevin Knight and Emeka Okafor.

When the checker says "TRADE ACCEPTED," that means both teams will do it.

Oh yeah, trade Ben Wallace for Antoine Walker.

It's a salary checker not a talent checker. I remember you could trade Detroits whole team to NYK last year for Tim Thomas, Penny Hardaway, and Allen Houston or something like that.

It's a salary checker not a talent checker. I remember you could trade Detroits whole team to NYK last year for Tim Thomas, Penny Hardaway, and Allen Houston or something like that.
I'm talking about the legend of PistonPete. He would come in with the worst trade proposals you'll ever see, and he defended them to the death.

Dude, Ben's getting old though and we need more three point shooting.

As many of you know I take a lot of pride in my knowledge of the league's cap rules and shit like that.

So, it surprised me when this trade didn't work on either ESPN's or RGM's device today:

NOTE: (I did this trade to see what each device would do and for no other reason)

Detroit Pistons

Incoming Players
Raja Bell
Salary: $4,250,000

Outgoing Players:
Kelvin Cato
Salary: $8,640,000


The Suns are over the cap, and their incoming salaries are greater than 125% plus $100,000 of their outgoing salaries. They need to cut $3,227,500 from the incoming trade value to make this trade successful.

According to Real GM's Trade Checker:


Due to Detroit and Phoenix being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Detroit and Phoenix had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here (only Detroit met the condition). This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

BUT, why doesn't it work?

According to Real GM Phoenix has a massive trade exception to throw into a deal (worth $3,600,000)

$3,600,000 + Bell's salary of $4,250,000 = $7,825,000

Cato makes $8,640,000

So any other people out there that know this stuff wanna explain why it doesn't work?

Looked like an easy test for both machines but both failed.

Or is my math wrong?

Or is the trade exception fucking this whole thing up?

And if the trade exception is fucking this up then WTF is up with that?

I'm guessing that the absence of the trade exception screwed up your trade.

ESPN/RGM probably don't want to introduce exceptions into their mechanisms because it would actually take a real person doing some regular maintenance adding and removing them as they are acquired or as they expire.

Maybe someday we'll have one here at WTF that includes everything, who knows?

I'm liking the ESPN one much better because they are using actual salaries and not some ambiguous proprietary index of some kind.

I'm guessing that the absence of the trade exception screwed up your trade.

ESPN/RGM probably don't want to introduce exceptions into their mechanisms because it would actually take a real person doing some regular maintenance adding and removing them as they are acquired or as they expire.


True that.

Just thought there might be another rason



Maybe someday we'll have one here at WTF that includes everything, who knows?


Good luck with that! Would be a huge fucking job.



I'm liking the ESPN one much better because they are using actual salaries and not some ambiguous proprietary index of some kind.

AND they tell you how much salary to cut.

I might have to use a BYC and see how they explain that just to test them again, but so far I like it a lot more than RGM's.

Keep in mind that exceptions are restricted access on RealGM's site. I used to have access to their salary page and it listed all exceptions, etc. I imagine since that content is restricted, you'd have to restrict it from the trade checker. Otherwise you could simply copy the exceptions from the trade checker and you'd have a work around for the limited access.

Are they (T.E's) still restricted?

You can get to them through their GM resources link without signing in anywhere.

Interesting.


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