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Glenn
02-13-2006, 09:52 AM
Three straight losses by 30 points or more? Ratliff and Przybilla both injured, leaving Ha Seung Jin as your only center?

This is ugly.

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/exclude/1139804726122130.xml&coll=7


Blazers' 'spirit is gone,' says McMillan

Portland loses by 33 points to lowly Toronto following two 32-point blowouts on the road, and makes history

Monday, February 13, 2006
JASON QUICK
The Oregonian

TORONTO -- Never before have the Trail Blazers been so bad.

For the first time in franchise history, the Blazers have lost three consecutive games by 30 or more points, the latest coming Sunday when they followed back-to-back 32-point losses with a stunning 33-point loss, 114-81, to the lowly Toronto Raptors at the Air Canada Centre.

And guess what? It doesn't figure to get any better.

Already without starting center Joel Przybilla, who is at home with a sore knee and for the birth of his first child, the Blazers lost center Theo Ratliff to a major sprain of his left ankle in the third quarter, which he said will likely keep him out for at least two weeks. That leaves the Blazers with only one center -- Ha Seung Jin, a 20-year-old project.

"Man, it ain't going to get any easier," Juan Dixon said. "We don't have a center."

Perhaps more importantly, the Blazers (17-32) have shown they don't have any heart.

That became evident to coach Nate McMillan midway through the fourth quarter, when he came unglued during a timeout with 8:34 left and the Blazers trailing 95-63. McMillan fired at his team, several times nearly falling out of his chair as he spit, stomped and screamed, until finally he slammed his fist against his clipboard, shattering the plastic board, which sent his red felt pen spinning upward and backward onto the court.

It was the first clipboard McMillan has broken this year, but there figures to be more as long as the Blazers continue to show no defensive resistance. In the three games this trip, the Blazers have allowed 101, 115 and 114 points. On Sunday, they allowed a hapless Raptors team (19-32) to shoot 58.5 percent from the field and grab 48 rebounds.

"We are just giving in to being outworked, we are not competing," McMillan said.

The most fight the Blazers showed all night came from point guard Steve Blake, who angrily chased off the Toronto mascot, Raptor, during a fourth-quarter timeout. The mascot was mocking the Blazers huddle while belly-dancing behind Blazers assistant Monty Williams, and Blake shooed him away with a red-faced barrage of expletives.

If only that much energy was spent on the rest of the game.

"It just looks like the spirit is gone," McMillan said. "The fire is not there."

It has become a familiar refrain from McMillan over the past week, but it is one that is falling on deaf ears. Once again, the Blazers were buried early, falling behind 31-18 after the first quarter as the Raptors did what Indiana and Boston had done before them: post-up and shoot over the smaller Blazers guards and frustrate the inside game of Zach Randolph by double and sometimes triple teaming him.

Shooting guard Morris Peterson made 8 of 13 shots en route to 22 points, following a trend that was set in Indiana by Stephen Jackson (25 points) and in Boston by Wally Szczerbiak (21 points).

Meanwhile Randolph was held to 10 points and six rebounds in yet another game in which he was reduced to a non-factor. In this three-game trip, Randolph is averaging 16.3 points and seven rebounds -- below his averages of 18.3 and 8.6 -- with disappearing acts in the second half, when he has been held to four points against Indiana, four points against Boston and two points Sunday.

"When you have teams that have the bigger guards, they really expose us in that area, as far as posting our guards up," Ratliff said. "We have to figure out how to take that on. And then teams are double teaming us and triple teaming us, and we have to figure out how to play in that realm as well. We have been doing a poor job in both."

However, these are not new concepts. The Blazers have gone with their small starting backcourt of Blake and Dixon -- both of whom are listed at 6-foot-3 -- since mid-December, and Randolph has been double-teamed since last season. Before this trip, they were able to compensate in both areas, winning seven of 11 at one point with a blend of hard, scrappy play and unselfishness.

Where has it gone? That's the million-dollar question.

"Everybody is trying to put a finger on it," Ratliff said after emerging on a pair of crutches. "I think we lost a little focus on what we were trying to do as a team. We gotta try and get that focus back, and play together and give 100 percent."

And while McMillan continues to plead for someone to step up and light a fire under the team, Dixon made a concerted effort Sunday, at one point standing in the middle of a huddle to urge Randolph to play defense. Before the timeout, Randolph let Toronto guard Mike James (19 points, six assists) drive right past him.

"You gotta play defense," Dixon said, both hands extended toward Randolph. "Everybody out there has to play! It just takes one guy. We gotta work!"

The effort never came, even as McMillan tried every gimmick at his disposal -- inserting a half-court trap and starting the second half with Charles Smith in place of Viktor Khryapa. Smith was the lone bright spot, finishing with a team-high 11 points, which included three three-pointers.

The half-court trap used in the second quarter whittled a 23-point deficit to 52-38 at halftime, but again the Blazers were flat to open the second half. Toronto opened on a 20-4 run, eliciting memories of a 10-0 run by Indiana and a 12-4 run by Boston at the start of the second half.

"I'm searching," McMillan said. "We just don't have that guy who is able to grab this team out there and get that flame going."

Kilo
02-13-2006, 11:49 AM
I bet they deal Patterson for a center pretty soon...

Does Portland have anything we'd want for Milicic??

WTFchris
02-13-2006, 12:45 PM
I bet they deal Patterson for a center pretty soon...

Does Portland have anything we'd want for Milicic??

not really. A pick I suppose.

Darius Miles seems to have his act together these days.

I'd take Jarett Jack, Paterson and a pick for Darko and Arroyo I think. Haven't seen Jack in the pros, but I liked him out of college.

Artis Gilmore
02-13-2006, 03:32 PM
Where's PNF?

H1Man
02-13-2006, 05:54 PM
I bet they deal Patterson for a center pretty soon...

Does Portland have anything we'd want for Milicic??

Jarret Jack would look nice coming off the bench for us. As would Nate McMillan on our sideline.

kdawg32086
02-13-2006, 07:49 PM
You're not getting Jarrett Jack from us. He's able to play two positions and has McMillan's confidence for playing minutes late in the 4th quarter. I think all that's probably tradeable right now is Patterson, Smith, the Detroit pick(from Utah), and mabye Monia(big mabye)

Kilo
02-13-2006, 07:53 PM
You're not getting Jarrett Jack from us. He's able to play two positions and has McMillan's confidence for playing minutes late in the 4th quarter. I think all that's probably tradeable right now is Patterson, Smith, the Detroit pick(from Utah), and mabye Monia(big mabye)

Thank you sir, may I have another...

Unibomber
02-13-2006, 10:06 PM
Where's PNF?

Right here. It's fucking awful. The offense is anemic. Ha Seung-Jin is the STARTING CENTER, but it's against Jake Voshkul so it's not that big a difference talent wise.

Word of Darius' return comes back, look what happens. A combined 97 point margin of loss. This CANNOT continue.

But what the fuck CAN the Blazers do? A lot of it depends on team health, which afflicts the Blazers at all positions. Webster has regressed since the beginning of the season, and Dixon is slowly rekindling Wizards' fans' feelings of old.

Jack, meanwhile, is quite the bright spot. He actually plays hard. It just doesn't give enough of a spark because he's not as big of a playmaker as Telfair in terms of the ability to pass his way out.

As for Darko, Monia and a pick is what I'd offer.

I have also been wondering how long it would take for this thread to appear.

H1Man
02-13-2006, 10:21 PM
PNF,

How is Outlaw doing?

OUGrizz11PG
02-13-2006, 11:25 PM
Don't even think about Miles.

He couldn't give two shits about basketball. It's not his passion.

He wouldn't fit.

Cross
02-14-2006, 06:54 AM
I wouldnt mind Martell Webster [smilie=2thumbsup.g:


What about Telfair? Steve Blake?

Unibomber
02-15-2006, 01:14 AM
PNF,

How is Outlaw doing?

Outlaw is a variable. He appears to have improved, but he looks shaky and doesn't always see effective minutes.

I'd look for the Blazers to resign him to a Gerald Wallace-type deal.

Glenn
02-15-2006, 06:13 PM
Telfair was busted for having a loaded handgun hiding in his pillow on the team plane.

His excuse?

The classic "I grabbed my girlfriend's bag by mistake" -line.

Must have got that one from CWebb.

Unibomber
02-15-2006, 11:38 PM
It's not pretty. He's been fined, but Nate may need to sit down with him for some quality discussion.

More LOLing may occur.

H1Man
04-13-2006, 10:28 PM
Evidently miffed at not playing in the first half, Miles changed into street clothes at halftime, to the chagrin of McMillan. Miles, who did not play in the Blazers' last game after hurting his right knee Saturday in Utah, was cleared to play and told by McMillan to be available.

Miles, however, said he thought McMillan was not going to use him in the second half, so he changed into a blue suit.

"I thought I was going to play," Miles said. "But he made sure I wasn't going to play. So I put on my clothes."

McMillan said he will talk with management about whether disciplinary action will be taken.

"Basically, there's no excuse for that. No excuse for that," McMillan said. "What I had told him was I wasn't planning on using him, but dress and be available. And in the second half, I guess he felt because I wasn't using him he would step out in street clothes." Miles after the game said he didn't think his changing was "any big deal."

"It's just something you go through," he said.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1144911331254890.xml&coll=7

Black Dynamite
04-13-2006, 10:31 PM
Darius is a clueless muthafucka.

H1Man
04-14-2006, 04:11 PM
Miles' trip ends one game early
The Blazers forward is sent home, with more penalties possible, after he changes out of uniform Wednesday

The Trail Blazers on Thursday told Darius Miles to leave the team and return to Portland, one day after the troubled forward took off his uniform and changed into street clothes at halftime of Wednesday's game against the Los Angeles Clippers.

"We are not going to accept that type of behavior," coach Nate McMillan said.

Blazers general manager John Nash said further disciplinary action was levied, but he refused to specify the penalty, and McMillan said harsher penalties could follow once he and Nash meet Saturday in Portland with team President Steve Patterson and Miles. McMillan said that as of Thursday, Miles had not been suspended.

"That's something we haven't determined exactly," McMillan said. "We will decide after talking about this and communicating with (Miles) exactly what he needs to do."

Miles will miss tonight's game against the Lakers, and his status for Saturday's home game against Golden State will be determined when, or if, Miles attends the Saturday morning shootaround in Tualatin, Nash said.

Nash, who is in Los Angeles with the team, was brief talking about the discipline Thursday.

"I think that there may have been a misunderstanding or miscommunication, but the player doesn't have the prerogative to make himself unavailable to play by changing out of his uniform into his street clothes," Nash said.

McMillan said he told Miles before the game that his intent was to play Travis Outlaw and Viktor Khryapa at small forward, but that he wanted Miles to be ready in uniform on the bench.

"He knew exactly what the plan was," McMillan said.

Miles was returning to the team after tweaking his right knee in Saturday's game at Utah, which caused him to miss Monday's home game against Denver. The knee, which underwent arthroscopic surgery in December, was cleared by team trainers for Wednesday's game. But McMillan said he wanted to use Miles only in an emergency, with plans to play him extensively against the Lakers tonight.

But after he didn't play in the first half Wednesday against the team that selected him with the third pick in the 2000 draft, Miles said it had become apparent that McMillan was not going to use him at all.

"I thought I was going to play, but I didn't, that's the only reason I dressed (in his uniform)," Miles said after the game. "I just put my clothes on, because I guessed I wasn't going to play. (McMillan) made sure I wasn't going to play."

McMillan said he was unaware of Miles' changing until the start of the second half, when Miles rejoined a Blazers team that led 53-52 by sitting at the end of the bench in a blue suit and gold tie.

After the game, McMillan said he addressed Miles in front of the team, after which the player didn't respond.

The dismissal is the latest incident in what has turned into a troubled Blazers career for Miles. After being acquired in a January 2004 trade with Cleveland, Miles averaged 12.6 points in 42 games and was hailed by teammates and then-coach Maurice Cheeks as a young, rising talent on the cusp of stardom.

But after signing a six-year, $48 million contract in the summer of 2004, Miles has struggled with authority, complaining that management forced him to the bench in the 2004-05 season to enhance the trade value of Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Midway through that season, Miles clashed with Cheeks, cursing him during a January film session, which resulted in the team suspending him two games.

This season, even though he was awarded the starting small forward position, a title of team co-captain and the distinction of being a go-to player on offense, Miles has expressed to teammates and McMillan that he wants out of Portland.

He began the season posting a career-high scoring average of 18.2 points through 15 games. But as Miles requested to sit out practices complaining of a sore right knee, McMillan harped on him to put forth more consistent effort and prepare better.

On Dec. 4, the team said Miles would have surgery, which took place Dec. 16 and caused him to miss 34 games. He returned Feb. 13, after which he has averaged 11.6 points in 24 games while appearing listless and uninterested.

The strife began to surface within the last month, when on March 23 in Phoenix he was fined and benched after missing the team's 10 a.m. shootaround, saying he overslept.

McMillan hesitated to say that his relationship with Miles is a failure, saying Thursday's discipline was simply setting the groundwork for next season.

"It's only a failure if next year it's the same," McMillan said. "I coach these guys as if they are my players and if I will have them next year. If I'm blowing him off now or not communicating, then next year, I've lost him."
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1144988721251470.xml&coll=7

Matt
04-14-2006, 04:26 PM
screw millionaire prima donna bitch-ass athletes.

someone needs to seriously WHOOP his $8M/year, underacheiving, punk ass.

Glenn
04-14-2006, 04:31 PM
Maybe they should hit him on the head repeatedly in a motion that is similar to what he and QRich used to do all the time.

'Member the time, when Jon Barry did that right back at them? That was awesome!

Cross
04-14-2006, 09:47 PM
Maybe they should hit him on the head repeatedly in a motion that is similar to what he and QRich used to do all the time.

'Member the time, when Jon Barry did that right back at them? That was awesome!

Shit JOn Barry doing that was priceless [smilie=applause.gi:

Glenn
04-17-2006, 03:57 PM
bump

First D Miles, now Zach.

http://www.nba.com/news/randolph_060417.html?rss=true


Statement From Trail Blazers Regarding Zach Randolph

PORTLAND, Ore. - The Portland Trail Blazers today fined and suspended forward Zach Randolph for conduct that was insubordinate and detrimental to the team, Trail Blazers General Manager John Nash announced.

"Zach Randolph committed a series of separate actions that were insubordinate and detrimental to the team culminating in his decision to leave the arena during the third quarter of Saturday's game while on the inactive list," said Nash.

Randolph will be suspended for tonight's game against the Golden State Warriors in Oakland, Calif.

Darth Thanatos
04-17-2006, 04:01 PM
The Trailthugs legacy continues even after Sheed, Damon, Woods, Bonzi, and Patterson all departed.

Unibomber
04-20-2006, 01:21 AM
[smilie=angry.gif]

Might as well bump this back up. RGM Wiretap has Zach quoted as saying that he's fed up with Portland right now. Darius as well. Evidently, looking inward is too much of a stretch for these fuckers. Especially Zach. What the fuck is wrong with you, getting suspended in the third-to-last game of the season?

Now they're destined for the No. 1 pick. Hooray.

It's a sorry day in the Rose City.

Pharaoh
04-20-2006, 01:45 AM
They should have traded Miles for Penny when they had the chance.

Apparently he's the bad influence on the team (yeah, it's all his fault).

Unibomber
04-22-2006, 02:14 AM
The funny thing is, Pharaoh, the Knicks would probably still take him for something.

Pharaoh
04-22-2006, 02:51 AM
Mo Taylor and Jalen are about to be expiring contracts.

Maybe the Knicks and the Blazers can do a deal?

Maybe trade Zach and Miles to NY for Taylor and Jalen plus some youth?

Is Zeke willing to part with Frye?

Unibomber
04-23-2006, 07:24 PM
If Nash pushes hard enough, Zeke will probably part with ANYTHING. See the Nazr Mohammed deal.

Pharaoh
04-24-2006, 11:27 AM
Well, just so you Portland cats know:

Jalen + Taylor for Ratliff and Miles works through the checker.

The Knicks also have 2 firsts this Draft and we all know how much Larry Brown loves young kids.

I'm not saying this is something Portland should do, but it's an option.