Delfino definately needs more minutes. He's busting his butt on defense, he's shooting well, and even asserting himself in the post at times. There is no reason why he isn't playing more. Especially with a guy like JJ running the point against you. Why bring in crappy defense Arroyo? Just let Delfino sub in for Billups to play PG. Tay could have brought the ball up, or Delfino. Instead we waste Arroyo's minutes giving up shot after shot to JJ.

Delfino definately needs more minutes. He's busting his butt on defense, he's shooting well, and even asserting himself in the post at times. There is no reason why he isn't playing more. Especially with a guy like JJ running the point against you. Why bring in crappy defense Arroyo? Just let Delfino sub in for Billups to play PG. Tay could have brought the ball up, or Delfino. Instead we waste Arroyo's minutes giving up shot after shot to JJ.

I don't think you can blame Arroyo for Joe Johnson, last night he shit on every single person that guarded him, he just had a great game and it happens. Don't take that as defending Arroyo, he couldn't guard me these days, I'm just saying I don't really blame him for getting smoked by JJ. I think they need to start putting him on the guys like Royal Ivey or anyone else that isn't a huge threat. It's sad, but I don't think he's capable of guarding the PG spot.

As for Delfino, I agree with Diddy- Neither he or Evans has separated themselves from each other at all and lately, both have just been doing their best to not fuck up while the starters rest as opposed to making plays.

I wasn't blaming Arroyo for JJ, as he was guarded by someone other than Arroyo most of the night. However, Delfino was doing well on him (drew a couple TO's on him), so why not try him more? He did well on Pierce a week ago too. I was blaming Arroyo for his offensive BS, and adding that last night was a perfect chance to use Delfino at backup PG when you are not playing against a true PG to begin with.

Look at the numbers for Delfino lately:

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%45 shooting
%53 3P FG
6.3 PPG

in those 9 games:
11 Ast
3 TO
22 rebounds
6 Blk
4 stl

And he's playing good defense too.

I wasn't blaming Arroyo for JJ, as he was guarded by someone other than Arroyo most of the night. However, Delfino was doing well on him (drew a couple TO's on him), so why not try him more? He did well on Pierce a week ago too. I was blaming Arroyo for his offensive BS, and adding that last night was a perfect chance to use Delfino at backup PG when you are not playing against a true PG to begin with.

Point taken. The way Arroyo has been running our offense ticks me off to no end, I just hope that Lindsey gets more than 12 seconds in the up coming weeks.

Here's a per48 comparison on our SF's too (I know, per48 stats should be taken with a grain of salt):

NAME MIN PTS TOT AST STL BLK TO A/TO
T. Prince 36.1 19.4 5.7 2.9 0.82 0.51 1.6 1.85
M. Evans 15.5 17.7 7.3 2.0 1.78 0.86 1.6 1.25
C. Delfino 10.4 16.8 7.6 3.3 1.04 1.27 2.3 1.45

Evans and Delfino are both providing good numbers in their limited minutes. They are shooting %48 and %43 on the year as well. I don't see why we can't use them more.

I am splitting this off the tired thread because I think I took it off on a tangent.

I think we should be playing delfino more for sure, and even Evans. I think they should be getting lots of minutes (one of them getting 20-25 a night) and at the expense of Arroyo (with Tay backing up PG).

Delfino should be getting around 20-25 minutes a game, imo. he can backup Rip and Ray depending on the situation. his game seems to be the type that gets better as he stays in the game more. he seems to have confidence in telling others where they should be in teh offense.

Mo seems like a guy who can come in with any amount of minutes and make an impact. his game is predicated on hustle as he gets rebounds, runs the break, and nails the occasional corner three.

interestingly, i noticed that Flip has been bringing in Mo early to play with Arroyo and Rip. then he brings them out and plays Chauncey and Delfino together.

Either Delfino or Evans needs to be given all of the 2/3 back-up minutes to see if they could get into a rhythm. Splitting it is helping nobody.

i really think Flip needs to figure out a better way to play the bench. his notion of playing the hot hand and keeping them in, seems good at first, but we're seeing guys with lots of talent playing too few minutes.

there's no reason our bench can't score 20-30 points a night, imo.

I am splitting this off the tired thread because I think I took it off on a tangent.

I think we should be playing delfino more for sure, and even Evans. I think they should be getting lots of minutes (one of them getting 20-25 a night) and at the expense of Arroyo (with Tay backing up PG).

I think we ultimately need a back up PG and more rest for Tayshaun. I don't think that gets solved while trying to play Tayshaun at PG. I ultimately would like to see Rip and Tay with rest while Evans and Delfino hold down the fort (pipe dream, I know) I'd be nice if Lindsey/ Arroyo would step up on the play making and I think that would solve a problem. More than likely, Arroyo needs to be moved.

Delfino and Evans each bring somethig to the table. The long term solution is to get rid of one of these players and then go find that backup SF we have been talking about.

Here's a per48 comparison on our SF's too (I know, per48 stats should be taken with a grain of salt):

NAME MIN PTS TOT AST STL BLK TO A/TO
T. Prince 36.1 19.4 5.7 2.9 0.82 0.51 1.6 1.85
M. Evans 15.5 17.7 7.3 2.0 1.78 0.86 1.6 1.25
C. Delfino 10.4 16.8 7.6 3.3 1.04 1.27 2.3 1.45

Evans and Delfino are both providing good numbers in their limited minutes. They are shooting %48 and %43 on the year as well. I don't see why we can't use them more.
because outsidfe of numbers they dont always work well together. evans honestly takes minutes away from himself. its obvious flip is rooting for him to be a leader off the bench. wont happen IMO though. i'd prefer more delfino

Delfino didn't play. That's a joke.

Delfino didn't play. That's a joke.

Mo's played very well tonight. at the half, he's got 7 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl in 8 minutes. can't really fault Flip for sticking w/ Mo tonight. i do hope Flip finds time for Delfino in the 2nd half

Delfino DNP was sickening tonight. Rip played well for a strech of about a minute and 30 seconds all game. That is no reason to play him almost the entire game.

yep....that was gay

Why does he have Delfino on such a short leash?

Delfino had a runny nose tonight. He won't be back until after the all-star break.

HA HA HA! Poor Delfino. Fuck I can't even type anymore I'm distracted from that shaking ass.

Delfino DNP was sickening tonight. Rip played well for a strech of about a minute and 30 seconds all game. That is no reason to play him almost the entire game.

Even if Rip was playing well, there is no reason he should be playing 41 minutes.

Delfino didn't play. That's a joke.

Mo's played very well tonight. at the half, he's got 7 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl in 8 minutes. can't really fault Flip for sticking w/ Mo tonight. i do hope Flip finds time for Delfino in the 2nd half
im done with the mo played well excuse. Flip is giving him all the chance in the world to "play well" . he's skewing the curve in favor of evans. like i said before. he roots for him and delfino has to outplay him significantly to get some of his time. but evans doesnt have to outplay delfino. its weird, but whatever, im just annoyed to see Rip play the whole night.

Evans played for Flip in Minnesota. I think that might have something to do with him getting more opportunities to play.

Evans played for Flip in Minnesota. I think that might have something to do with him getting more opportunities to play.

i was thinking that, but that was like one year and he didnt play THAT much did he? its still weird to me.