wow, this is even more shocking then kobe's 81 point game to me.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1521356/20060123/nas.jhtml?headlines=true

As viciously as these dudes went at each other on wax, I really thought it would result in something the exact opposite of a partnership. I remember them saying that their feud wasn't serious and it would remain lyrical. I remember thinking 'yeah, we'll see how long that lasts'. I guess they meant what they were saying though.

LOL@the first line of that article:


It's like Shaq and Kobe moving next door to each other,

this move might be aimed at striking at 50 cent. jay z and 50 cent worked together but were never friends. and Nas and 50 cent are beefin'. maybe a def jam vs g-unit/aftermath thing. maybe Em is retiring so he doesnt have to get caught in beef with some major rappers for once(no ja rule cant rap, just serenade).

this move might be aimed at striking at 50 cent. jay z and 50 cent worked together but were never friends. and Nas and 50 cent are beefin'. maybe a def jam vs g-unit/aftermath thing. maybe Em is retiring so he doesnt have to get caught in beef with some major rappers for once(no ja rule cant rap, just serenade).


Don't forget me!

LOL@ Everlast

I am far too white to understand the significance of this news.

this move might be aimed at striking at 50 cent. jay z and 50 cent worked together but were never friends. and Nas and 50 cent are beefin'. maybe a def jam vs g-unit/aftermath thing. maybe Em is retiring so he doesnt have to get caught in beef with some major rappers for once(no ja rule cant rap, just serenade).

I was thinking of fifty cent too, I just can't understand Jay-Z's angle in that. Everytime 50 mentions Jay-Z he's kissing his ass. In retrospect maybe he was just hoping this wouldn't happen.

Another interesting sidenote is that G-unit signed Mobb deep. With all the history between them and Nas, I was expecting some beef with that as well. Now i'm actually expecting this to all tie in at some point.

I am far too white to understand the significance of this news.

Should I swat it just to keep the black man down?

I am far too white to understand the significance of this news.

Should I swat it just to keep the black man down?
http://www.youhatemyshirt.com/shirts/non_pc/kill_whitey_close.jpg

I am far too white to understand the significance of this news.

Should I swat it just to keep the black man down?


It's not the whiteness. most people who buy rap albums are white.

It's the age. you see this is typical old people shit. you get old and senile, start seeing the world through race goggles while remaining completely ignorant to the fact that your generation was likely viewed as the same from your elders. I bet you have male pattern baldness.

I am far too white to understand the significance of this news.

Should I swat it just to keep the black man down?


It's not the whiteness. most people who buy rap albums are white.

It's the age. you see this is typical old people shit. you get old and senile, start seeing the world through race goggles while remaining completely ignorant to the fact that your generation was likely viewed as the same from your elders. I bet you have male pattern baldness.

Are you completely devoid of a sense of humor?

That baldness quip really hit home eh TK?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Greene000/Ben_stick_av.gif

That baldness quip really hit home eh TK?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Greene000/Ben_stick_av.gif

Classic. [smilie=applause.gi:

WOW. That's some crazy shit!


Good. Nas' albums are going to be even better.
He'll have superproducers hooking his shit up.

Nas>Jesus

Actually, Nas=black Jesus

Add Kobe to that too.

A mediocre rapper signs another mediocre rapper.

A mediocre rapper signs another mediocre rapper.
well thats an unfair statement to put out w/o saying who exactly is your definition of not mediocre.

I am far too white to understand the significance of this news.

LOL, I agree completely here.

A mediocre rapper signs another mediocre rapper.
well thats an unfair statement to put out w/o saying who exactly is your definition of not mediocre.

if nas is mediocre then every major rapper out there right now is shit.

Every major rapper out there for the most part IS shit.

LOL.

Nas is fucking great. He's one of the best ever.

Every major rapper out there for the most part IS shit.

LOL.

Nas is fucking great. He's one of the best ever.
nas is ok. jay z is solid. pharoah monch is pretty hot with it. 50 cent has been boring me as of late.

i actually like the game's material. outkast is always hot. most def is aight. i actually think kanye west's shit is ok. not amazing but better than most garbage.

after that most of the stuff i listen to is the deathrow/wu tang clan/tupac/biggie smallz/bone thugs 'n harmony era

Saying Mos Def (spelled incorrectly) is AIGHT takes your cred away.

Rap died in 1997.

Saying Mos Def (spelled incorrectly) is AIGHT takes your cred away.
no it doesnt asswipe [smilie=angel.gif] .

im blue diamonds and a bowl of grits. and mos def(wasnt caring enough to spell him right) is just cool. he has a tendency to choose annoying music to rap over sometimes. when the music equals his flow he's next level. but that doesnt happen often. but i think mos def is better than common [smilie=artist.gif] ....gza is pretty cool. and inspekta deck was the most disappointing solo effort i ever heard. i had high hopes for the cat. method man is up and down. redman is always entertaining whether he's trying to say a hot verse or not. kurupt ties inspekta deck in the disappointment department. he was blazing on dogg pounds first record then immediately fell into a wasteland. royce the 5" 9' is aight, but has trouble doing mainstream tracks. he's better off on the underground circuit. koniva and kon artist from d12 are hotter than advertised. their solo underground shit has been pretty cold IMO. lil kim is ok, foxy brown is tight. remy martin is garbage.

dipset is the most overrated crew out there IMO. juels santana gets boring real fast. gangstarr is cool. jadakiss is overrated. canibus can still rap his ass off but is useless on the mainstream market. but nevertheless his lyrics are still entertaining. Dr Octagon is the most entertaining shit i've ever heard(aka anotherr kool keith persona). Esham is garbage gimmick waste(koolaid may not feel my take on him but he's never held my attention). yada yada yada.

Rap died in 1997.
not really. the market went sour, but that was destined to happen. its pop culture market and once a genre gets popular you get a flood of watered down product. has happened to every genre of music.

Haven't any of you guys heard of Sage Francis? Qwel? Typical Cats?

MOLA1?

There's plenty of good shit out there, you just have to find it.

You guys need to watch the dirty glove show on public access. I'm not a fan of rap music but that show is so ghetto that its funny.

Haven't any of you guys heard of Sage Francis? Qwel? Typical Cats?

MOLA1?

There's plenty of good shit out there, you just have to find it.
no we have, they were purposely left off. yess everyone who doesnt get into your favorites will be looked at as the anti christ i'm sure. oh fucking well.

Rap died in 1997.

Bold statement, and I agree to an extent. Biggie and Pac were on another level than everyone else. But I think the Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit crew are super tight. [smilie=dj.gif]

Rap died in 1997.

Bold statement, and I agree to an extent. Biggie and Pac were on another level than everyone else. But I think the Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit crew are super tight. [smilie=dj.gif]
they are also using watered down hybrid deathrow redords 2pac era material and idealism. nevertheless rap is not anywhere near daead. the mainstream market is fucked up. but overall rap is still solid. but nothing like it was.

But I think the Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit crew are super tight. [smilie=dj.gif]Eminem is one of the greatest of all time, but G-Unit and 50 Cent are TERRIBLE. Such fucking crap.

But I think the Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit crew are super tight. [smilie=dj.gif]Eminem is one of the greatest of all time.
not really. im sorry but a guy who does two str8 mediocre records isnt one of the greatest of all time. i'd put on some kanye west before i'd listen to his last couple albums and kanye aint the greatest, but his first album is killing em's last 2. em's one of the more "talented" rappers rapping today. but we all admit the level of competition is nowhere near what it was.

2 straight mediocre records? The Eminem Show is one of the best fucking albums I've ever heard in my life, and he fucked up Encore on purpose to prove that people will listen to his shit no matter how good or bad it is. I think that's become pretty clear.

2 straight mediocre records? The Eminem Show is one of the best fucking albums I've ever heard in my life
how old is your life? [smilie=arnold.gif]

that album is not anywhere near the greatest i've heard. not even better than average. and with encore he proved that he's so bubblegum popular that you would waste time trying to make excuses for that album sucking. he made his point there.

i give him credit on his first two. beyond that he's had a mediocre career feeding off the 10 million deep fan base he built off his 2nd album. cant fault him for it but his material has been weak since then. and the only projects he produced that did well were the d12 albums and the 8 mile soundtrack. that tupac album he did was horrific and obi trice didnt cut it. though i thought it was better than i expected.

Eminem is a parody of his former self. IF you think encore or eminem show were classic you don't know shit about rap. Nothing with 'just lose it' or 'ass like that' on it could ever be considered classic. Listening to 'soldier' made me laugh my ass off. How could a guy that runs around with unloaded guns say some shit like that?

The game is funny as fuck to me, all he does is shout other people's names over his tracks.

fifty cent makes money covering himself in body oil, flexing alot and slightly singing a chorus to make people wonder if he's rapping or singing.

Kanye West is straight up goofy. Guy has some good beats, which is surprising to me cuz at first all he could was speed up a record. Lyrically he's limited as it could get. Says dumb stuff too often, brain dead metaphors that make no sense 'she walks around looking like micheal with your money'. he says something dumb in every song.



oh and on the underground tip... sage Francis does not impress me at all. He's nerdy and he raps, people kiss his ass for that. All that Anticon stuff comes off like water to me, shit has no substance.

Kanye West is straight up goofy. Guy has some good beats, which is surprising to me cuz at first all he could was speed up a record. Lyrically he's limited as it could get. Says dumb stuff too often, brain dead metaphors that make no sense 'she walks around looking like micheal with your money'. he says something dumb in every song. .
kanye's goofy and esham is hot? wow, i cant feel that at all. i think he was referring to micael jackson in that line. dare i post some of the hip hop classic bruce wayne 313 lyrics? [smilie=artist.gif]

I don't understand the hate for The Eminem Show? There's a lot of filler, but there are also some pretty fucking incredible songs on that album.

I don't understand the hate for The Eminem Show? There's a lot of filler, but there are also some pretty fucking incredible songs on that album.
man you are in your own world. aint no mass movement of hate toward the album. it just wasnt hot. thats a general consensus among people who dont ride his jock. also the same consensus that his first two albums were hot. so obviously its not hating on him. just being honest.

some of you guys dont even to deserve to discuss hip hop

i need to post more so i can mod this board again..

Yes you do.

Kanye West is straight up goofy. Guy has some good beats, which is surprising to me cuz at first all he could was speed up a record. Lyrically he's limited as it could get. Says dumb stuff too often, brain dead metaphors that make no sense 'she walks around looking like micheal with your money'. he says something dumb in every song. .
kanye's goofy and esham is hot? wow, i cant feel that at all. i think he was referring to micael jackson in that line. dare i post some of the hip hop classic bruce wayne 313 lyrics? [smilie=artist.gif]


Esham says some weak stuff as well. I like Esham's crazy ass aggresive attitude though. Esham has moments of being lyrically talented as hell, however i don't think anyone cares. people listen to him because of his craziness. Even with the craziness aside I'd still say that at his peak he gets better then Kanye ever gets. Esham has more entertainment value to me, and when you portray a psycho you don't have to be consistent.


the thing with that kanye line 'micheal with ya money' is that even if it's micheal jackson it still makes no sense. she bought a chimp or something? it's just a random rhyme.

the thing with that kanye line 'micheal with ya money' is that even if it's micheal jackson it still makes no sense. she bought a chimp or something? it's just a random rhyme.
wait so its random because you dont like it. you equated a chimp out of it. nobody else. [smilie=amish.gif]

seriously though thats all bias their. its ok to want to listen to eshams garbage knowing it sucks in talent(and he has never had flashes of lyrical brilliance IMO). but you hang on one kanye west line like it kills his career because you dont get it? ok Koolaid, you just stuck in your own world on that one. but you are entitled to such so i'll drop and agree to disagree.

if you don't think of a chimp then what is there to think about? plastic surgeory? amusement parks? one thing is for damn sure though, i've met many golddiggin girls and none of them resemble anyone named micheal.

Kanye 's logic is broken in every song, so it isn't just one line. It's one line i used as an example. That would be fine if he gave reason for his stupidity (like Esham consistently saying he's crazy) but he doesn't.

I listened to esham since i was young as hell so i'm sure that has alot to do with it. everything seems better when you're young.

However even now, Esham is original. Kanye isn't. No one rapped about feeling that god doesn't love the hood because the ghetto is hell on earth, that was Esham and only Esham to this day. No one else made songs encouraging abortions. Basically if Esham didn't come out back in the day and shock his audience with everything he did alot of careers wouldn't be here right now. ICP wouldn't exist without Esham and they'd admit that. Eminem would not have dropped lines bragging of his insanity and wouldn't be going for shock value all the time, he won't admit that but it's true. Esham's whole style was to shock the hell out of everybody and it made sense from the perspective. Gangsta rap was just taking off and it was getting publicity and making money because of the controversies surrounding it. Esham took it to the next level, he marketed craziness and no one did it before him. When he first came out his lyrics were at least on par with everyone elses, people just couldn't stomach his insanity. That was the whole point though, he challenged listeners. Sometimes he made sense, sometimes he just sounded like a crazy bum you'd find on the sidewalk but he was always hard to deal with.

When he dropped his first album in 1989, he was a 16 year old kid living in the eastside of Detroit. He produced, wrote and did everything on the album as a freshmen in high school. His style wasn't like anyone's, he invented his own genre of rap music. Now He's got got over 20 albums out, and he's barely 30 years old.

Think about that he's a 16 year old wiritng some deep ass insane shit like this...

I'm not an atheist, what has he done for me?Oh
he let me grow up in the mother fucking ghetto
Thanks for nothin' mother fucker thats for real
One of the ten commandments is thow shall not kill
Tell that mother fucker with the gun in my face
Or should I run from this place
And get shot in the back

Esham was unquestionably groundbreaking and orignal. When you factor in that he was also 16 years old and doing everything himself. How could you possibly question his greatness?

Kanye doesn't bring anything new to the table. He ain't the first dude to rap about people needing faith in christ, he's just the first to market that as if he was the root of all positivity and soul in rap. He ain't the first dude to rap about golddiggers. He is the first dude to rap about getting his jaw wired shut, but that song sucked. He ain't the first guy to speed up a soul sample. He ain't really done anything, except be egotistical. He should shut his mouth and let the beats do his talking, but they don't really justify his ego.



anyways. how did this turn into a 'you like a rapper i don't like therefore your opinion is shit?' If that's really how ya feel, you're a dumb fuck because it really is subjective and just cuz somebody likes something you don't doesn't mean they can't also have valid points and opinions.

esham is garbage. if that amazes you. good for you. muthafuckas got over his gimmick years ago. thats why he has to run with icp and he's a joke IMO. sometimes a muthafucka like esham is more of a joke than mc hammer as i've heard. like i said before agree to disagree. because that shit you showed me wasn't the least bit impressive.

ps
i said agree to disagree. thanks for reading that part when you decided to call me a dumb fuck for something i didnt say dumbass. fuck it i'm done with you man. you whine this esham shit to someone else who actually wants to waste time arguing about his washed up ass(also if its a matter of opinion why even post that long reply like you made your opinion any better than mines?).

LOL@CamRon pulling a Vince Carter calling Jay Z a biter. this DJ made a record exposing the irony of that shit

http://www.hiphopgame.com/player.php?id=372

everybody swears they are the truest shit on the earth. and they all are copying the same material. ouch.

like i said before agree to disagree. because that shit you showed me wasn't the least bit impressive.


Producing, engineering, writing, and performing your own debut album at 16 isn't impressive?

where's your platinum album at then? cuz if that don't impress you, you're either Micheal Jackson or Quincy Jones.

for the record esham didn't last with ICP, he did two albums then quit their label.


ps
i said agree to disagree. thanks for reading that part when you decided to call me a dumb fuck for something i didnt say dumbass. fuck it i'm done with you man. you whine this esham shit to someone else who actually wants to waste time arguing about his washed up ass(also if its a matter of opinion why even post that long reply like you made your opinion any better than mines?).

fuck it, my opinion does mean more then yours. you're a dickhead wiht no reasoning. You started off dissing Esham out of the blue like that somehow relates to me feeling Kanye is over rated. Then gave no reasons when i told you about some of esham's accomplishments. you're a stupid ass reading too many of those nonsense hip hop mags and watching the industry propaganda on television (Kanye west put the soul back in hip hop!). you know labels spit out payola to get those artists up there right?



to keep in theme with the original thread here...

here's an interview of Jaz-O (the dude who brought Jay-z to life as an artist). http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=jazo
and i just want to say this guy knows what he's talking about. I started laughing reading about that laffy taffy crap. Me and my friends joke about that the same way he's mentioning it.

Producing, engineering, writing, and performing your own debut album at 16 isn't impressive?.
it sounded like he did so no.

Producing, engineering, writing, and performing your own debut album at 16 isn't impressive?.
it sounded like he did so no.

whatever, you ain't even heard that shit and it's obvious. just some shit talking asshole talking about shit you don't even know about. talking about some gimmicks, then bump a gimmick that says 'keep it real' when they try their hardest to incriminate themselves on shit they didn't do. this is why hip hop fans tend be retards and all the shit comes out sounding identical. dumb fucks don't have the mind to accept different shit.

no i have heard it and its obvious that it wasnt that hot. and for the record he only rapped mostly through his career. took the credit for doing more than he actually did alot of the time.

like 4 posts ago i said agree to disagree and you are still flinging this esham bs at me. get the fuck over it. you think he's a pioneer in rap. and i think he was a joke. thats not gonna change. And now you're being the same dumbfuck you tried to call me, saying your opinion on him is undeniable so much that for me to not think much of his efforts i must not have heard his shit. good work koolaid, your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

now are we gonna dispute this all week or agree to disagree?

For the record stop being a whiny baby and playing the "anyone who isnt feeling esham doesnt like different music" card, because that a ridiculous card to play. kool keith/dr octagon by far was different music. most innovative and odd cat on the underground circuit. Theres material for days thats beyond the norm that im into. so give up on that weak as hell angle.

I just like brilliant material, not flashes of brilliance material. either way i'll say it a million times over. agree to disagree.

You guys are scaring the white people.

You guys are scaring the white people.
get your cracker ass back in your home. theres a riot outside


thats a lie, its too fucking cold to riot and the smart bus doesnt run to livonia so we can riot there. also cracker is a worn out term these days.

no i have heard it and its obvious that it wasnt that hot. and for the record he only rapped mostly through his career. took the credit for doing more than he actually did alot of the time. [quopte]

oh yeah and you're going to know that shit right? First you say it sounded like he produced it at a very young age, then you say 'oh, he didn't really do it'. What did you download a song and think, 'damn this is pretty impressive, i better make up some stupid ass excuse now?'

you can hear the evolution of his skills as he progressed. by 1994 he mastered the turntables on his KKKill the Fetus album, then for whatever he reason he let other guys do his production and anyone who knows shit about his music will tell you that's when it started slipping. he did his own production work.
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like 4 posts ago i said agree to disagree and you are still flinging this esham bs at me.

cuz you're a stupid fuck with no sense, and now you're just straight lying. Talking shit about something you know nothing about (Esham) in an effort to attack something me in something i love (hip hop) and now i'm not supposed to say anything? fuck that, my knowledge and heart for this shit would rip your mind out your eye socket.



now are we gonna dispute this all week or agree to disagree?

i'm going to agree...

with myself that you're a stupid fuck scared to think about shit.


For the record stop being a whiny baby and playing the "anyone who isnt feeling esham doesnt like different music" card, because that a ridiculous card to play. kool keith/dr octagon by far was different music. most innovative and odd cat on the underground circuit. Theres material for days thats beyond the norm that im into. so give up on that weak as hell angle.

funny you mention Kool Keith, you know Esham and him are tight right? naww.. you prolly don't. they've done quite a few tracks together and Esham signed him to his label before the label was bought out. Once Keith left Ultramagnetic he did go pretty damn crazy. Those two guys are very similar though, Keith raps about robots, aliens and other weird shit where as Esham raps about devils, poverty and mental illness. Basically Keith = Sci Fi, Esham = Horror. More rappers ran with Esham's style though, and that's not disputable.

It ain't just about being different, it's about excepting the talent of somebody who gets dissed for no other reason then people are fucking stupid. "Esham is just a stupid gimmick", then they go bump 50 and are too retarded to tell what's going on.


I just like brilliant material, not flashes of brilliance material. either way i'll say it a million times over. agree to disagree.

'flashes of brilliant material' doesn't get you over 15 albums by the age of 25 and it definitely doesn't set the tone to be a main influence on multiple platinum rappers.

Truth is you hate Esham for these reasons, ICP says they were heavily influenced by him and signed him and you can't stomach the fact that they paid him. You heard Eminem first, didn't have your ears to streets and after the d12 beef with esham you had already let d12 decide who you were going to like, or you simply couldn't stomach his choice of topic matter. The saddest thing is you can't think up that shit for yourself I gotta do it for you.

And it's not just about him being different. It's also about him being disliked. People don't want to admit that it's pretty much unjustified other then hip hop fans having incredibly short memories of who started what and dickriding for acts in the media. People forget about Flatlinerz straight up biting Esham's style and getting heavy rotation on BET, MTV and Radio. They don't wanna acknowledge that shit. They don't want to acknowledge that it flopped and it didn't last like Esham has. They don't want to acknowledge dude built a cult following and became successful with no help. Instead they just act like you.

You guys are scaring the white people.
get your cracker ass back in your home. theres a riot outside


thats a lie, its too fucking cold to riot and the smart bus doesnt run to livonia so we can riot there. also cracker is a worn out term these days.

you do know that despite this disagreement we're having, we're really working together to accomplish this goal right?

yea im done with koolaid. he's getting his pussy wet over esham.

thanks for being a bitch about the whole thing. way to man up pussy. everyone who doesn't like esham is a hater and you've proclaimed your opinion as godly. [smilie=applause.gi: . my favorite part of this is how much you are egging this shit on when i let your little whiny ass have your way. its just a difference of opinion, but now you're turning into a fucking 13 year old girl over it.

run a 40 paragraph comeback post if it empowers your belief thats its ok to get riled up over this shit. whatever you do kid, you're not wasting my time anymore being a bitch about nothing. if you can't get over someone else not agreeing with you then fall out and die. because i couldn't give a shit either way.

i'm betting my money of an even sillier shit talking post from kool aid that i won't even waste time reading.

LOL

-UncleCliffy

You guys like Biz Markie?


EDIT: The Diabolical Biz Markie?

LOL@people who think music has deep meaning.

Esham spelled backwards is mahsE.

LOL

-Irony

You guys are scaring the white people.
get your cracker ass back in your home. theres a riot outside


thats a lie, its too fucking cold to riot and the smart bus doesnt run to livonia so we can riot there. also cracker is a worn out term these days.

you do know that despite this disagreement we're having, we're really working together to accomplish this goal right?

The goal of rioting in Livonia? I'm not sure how much work that would entail...

if this hasnt been mentioned already, just so you guys know...nas just got a 10 million dollar deal..his own sub label, and its signed to LA reid...not jay z

he has to answer to la reid...not jay z


jay z will have no input in any of his projects

Rorshach is a bitch, flat out.

call me out on some shit, then say time out cuz i logically whoop your ass? Fuck that shit, you're just mad cuz your stupid fuck with no insight.

My problem with you isn't that you don't like Esham. My problem is that you called me out for liking him and then turned jelly like the faggot you are. Why you can't give the man credit for his accomplishments? you're a punk ass bitch that can't recognize his accomplishments. make up some stupid lies, says he's garbage, say my thoughts mean nothing because i like him, then ask me to stop calling you out?

What you like is your personal taste. However when you can't acknowledge somebodies impact just because of your own personal taste that makes you a hateful bitch. That's what you are.

you insulted my credibility for liking one of the most influential artists in hip hop history. you dumb fuck. Go ahead and go away from this shit, a Thick head mixed with shit for brains just means your brain is forever doo doo. It ain't doing myself any favors talking to somebody like you, all it could possibly accomplish is making me stupid.

You guys are scaring the white people.
get your cracker ass back in your home. theres a riot outside


thats a lie, its too fucking cold to riot and the smart bus doesnt run to livonia so we can riot there. also cracker is a worn out term these days.

you do know that despite this disagreement we're having, we're really working together to accomplish this goal right?

The goal of rioting in Livonia? I'm not sure how much work that would entail...

not the riot. hehe, the goal is to scare ya.

You guys like Biz Markie?


EDIT: The Diabolical Biz Markie?


Biz Markie is awesome. i love that dude.

if this hasnt been mentioned already, just so you guys know...nas just got a 10 million dollar deal..his own sub label, and its signed to LA reid...not jay z

he has to answer to la reid...not jay z


jay z will have no input in any of his projects

huh? that doesn't make any sense.


I read Nas signed with Def Jam. Jay-Z is the prez of Def Jam and LA Reid has nothing to do with it. Nas already has his own label as well, Ill Will.

Where did you hear this from?

OH SNAP.

DevinJubei just got jabbed in the face by Mike Tyson with brass knuckles in his prime.

if this hasnt been mentioned already, just so you guys know...nas just got a 10 million dollar deal..his own sub label, and its signed to LA reid...not jay z

he has to answer to la reid...not jay z


jay z will have no input in any of his projects

huh? that doesn't make any sense.


I read Nas signed with Def Jam. Jay-Z is the prez of Def Jam and LA Reid has nothing to do with it. Nas already has his own label as well, Ill Will.

Where did you hear this from?

Jay is the president..not the CEO

I dont feel like finding the link, for my words are more important than links... but his imprint is gonna be called the Jones Experience...

Jay is the president..not the CEO

i know, that's why i called him the prez.


I dont feel like finding the link, for my words are more important than links... but his imprint is gonna be called the Jones Experience...

well you got one thing right. The Jones Experience is real. However so is the Jay-Z and Nas pact.

http://www.media-services.com/newsletters/billboard.aspx?ID=1001919748

i've read a number of articles now and i'm yet to see LA Reid's name though.

Roc-A-Fella Records to Island Def Jam for $10 million dollars, Jay-Z was named president of the legendary label founded by Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons in 1985.

"I have inherited two of the most important brands in hip-hop, Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella,” Jay-Z said. “LA Reid and the Universal Music Group have given me the opportunity to manage the companies I have contributed to my whole career. I feel this is a giant step for me and the entire artist community."

Simmons said that Jay-Z's appointment to president would help the Def Jam brand name in the marketplace.

“Jay-Z running the Def Jam label is going to be great,” Russell Simmons told AllHipHop.com. “I couldn’t be happier; this is a great honor for all of those who laid the groundwork for Def Jam. Jay’s involvement is a great thing for the Def Jam brand.”

Jay-Z will report directly to Antonio “LA” Reid and will continue to run Roc-A-Fella Records as part of the deal.

Of course jay has say in things.. but do u really think a regular ass nigga rapper can just run a big time major label by himself?

He answers to Reid

Roc-A-Fella Records to Island Def Jam for $10 million dollars, Jay-Z was named president of the legendary label founded by Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons in 1985.

"I have inherited two of the most important brands in hip-hop, Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella,” Jay-Z said. “LA Reid and the Universal Music Group have given me the opportunity to manage the companies I have contributed to my whole career. I feel this is a giant step for me and the entire artist community."

Simmons said that Jay-Z's appointment to president would help the Def Jam brand name in the marketplace.

“Jay-Z running the Def Jam label is going to be great,” Russell Simmons told AllHipHop.com. “I couldn’t be happier; this is a great honor for all of those who laid the groundwork for Def Jam. Jay’s involvement is a great thing for the Def Jam brand.”

Jay-Z will report directly to Antonio “LA” Reid and will continue to run Roc-A-Fella Records as part of the deal.

Of course jay has say in things.. but do u really think a regular ass nigga rapper can just run a big time major label by himself?

He answers to Reid

what does that have to do with Nas though?

Obviously there were more factors then Jay-Z, because if he wanted to sign him himself Nas would be on Rocafella and not Def Jam. So obviously there were other factors in his decision. However he also could have said no to the whole thing.

dude! im just sayin nas works for la reid


its like saying billups plays for joe d....in reality he plays for billy d. technically both but really bill.


and only a fool would turn down his own imprint and 3 mill per album..so i understand his thinking