watching Finley and NVE play, man do they look their ages out there.

if you remember we are all drooling over getting Finley on our bench. i'm really glad that Joe D decided to move on after Finley took his sweet time making his choice. looking at Finley's numbers (10pts/4reb) over the season is deceiving because he's been playing near starter minutes (almost 30 per gm) after Ginobili went out. He's nowhere near the explosive scorer he used to be. I'm sure Evans and/or Delfino can contain more than contain the guy.

Evans and Delfino are young and seem to have ten times the energy/spark that Finley does. i thought i was being a borderline homer by thinking we might be better off without Finley, but now i'm convinced we're better. not to mention Mo was 1/5 the price of Finley.

thanks, Joe D.
:naka:

I liked Finley at first and still think he's the type of player we need off our bench but I wanted no part of NVE.

Once getting Finley turned into getting Evans and Dale Davis, it became a no-brainer.

finley has looked horrible. he cant hit a consistent jump shot for shit. dont know if he was even worth half MLE let alone full MLE the way he's played.

Was never interested in NVE, was very interested in Finley, but that's why I don't run a team.

There should be a Joe Dumars cult, sort of like "The Leader" from The Simpsons. :lol:

Dumars is a genius. The mixture of veterans, players
in their prime and newcomers is fucking beautiful.

I wouldn't go too far. He would of flourished in our system under Flip, and who knows, he would of played some defense.

It's funny, for the minutes he plays he isn't too efficient as he was in Dallas, but he can score off the bench unlike Evans.

Just not tonight.

I'd rather have him over Evans, but definitely not over Davis which we needed. But Evans can bring energy which we definitely needed as well since Dupree and Ham went out.

fuck finley, it would've been a bad signing.

the one mistake we made was trading dupree and picking him over evans. i think dupree could've done better than evans. unlike evans he can play the 3 position w/o looking lost at times. he rebounds just as well. he would've been a great compliment to to the bench with that mid range jumper he had worked on. not to mention maybe getting tayshan more rest.

fuck finley, it would've been a bad signing.

the one mistake we made was trading dupree and picking him over evans. i think dupree could've done better than evans. unlike evans he can play the 3 position w/o looking lost at times. he rebounds just as well. he would've been a great compliment to to the bench with that mid range jumper he had worked on. not to mention maybe getting tayshan more rest.


Evans and Dupree are almost clones of each other. I would've kept evans though because he has a 3 point shot sometimes and i've never seen that from dupree. Outside of that their game is pretty much the same.

I'll tell you what I appreciated about Joe last night.

I don't know if the game was on locally - I watched TNT. While Ginobili was in the middle of flopping, the camera turned to Joe D, and fixated on him for like 2 minutes, and all he did was shake his head and say things like "no way" at the bullshit flop artist that is Ginibili, and the love affair he has with the refs. Over and over and over, he just kept shaking his head in disgust, and they kept the camera fixated on him, although they didn't mention what he was doing.

After the game, Joe ran onto the court and went over to Rip and started talking to him (not long after Ginobili slammed his forearm into Rip's head on a drive for no call). It was clear Joe was talking to Rip about Ginobili, and they just both walked away together shaking their heads in disgust at what the refs let old Roberto Bennini get away with for 30 or so minutes straight.

Go near Ginobili - foul on you.

Ginobili hits you in the head and knocks you to the floor - no foul on him.

Ginobili throws himself around like he's been shot out of a cannon and even when he doesn't come into contact with ANYONE, its a foul.

Go Joe D.

LMAO@ the Roberto Benigni reference

I was thinking about that last night too, so much so that I was going to post a pic of Benigni today and mention it.

Don't have to now.

You just saved me 2 minutes.

Can you pro-rate that $220/hr for me?

No.

BTW: Its not just that he looks like him - its that he ACTS like him. There's only so many actors that so overact as to make their every move comical - like a caricature - perhaps Jerry Lewis, too. That's why I compare him to Bennini.

For once, I'd love to hear a soundbite from a Piston accusing him of not being a real man - accusing him of having less heart than most of the women in the WNBA - or saying that since Manu has come into the league, they need to adopt a foul against flopping, like they have in the NHL, and call it the Manu rule. Flop, and its a technical foul.

Someone needs to vocalize to tha national media what this clown is all about. Perhaps a referee will read it.

Yes, Manu is the king of flops.



alsobenwallaceflopsalotondefense,butnotasmuch

Yes, Manu is the king of flops.



alsobenwallaceflopsalotondefense,butnotasmuch

Ben Wallace flops A LOT on defense.

Here's the difference - the refs never buy it.

With Manu, if he flops on defense, its an offensive foul.

If he flops on offense, its a defensive foul.

If he punches you in the face, its a no call or a call on you, because he's so "acrobatic", he can punch you in the face real fast, and then chuck himself backwards like he's been thrown out of a cannon, and it looks like you hit him.

Manu Ginobili is the David Copperfield of the NBA. He's the world's greatest basketball illusionist. He always makes it look to the refs like he's been hit, no matter whether no one touches him, or he hits you.

Yes, Manu is the king of flops.



alsobenwallaceflopsalotondefense,butnotasmuch

Ben Wallace flops A LOT on defense.

Here's the difference - the refs never buy it.

With Manu, if he flops on defense, its an offensive foul.

If he flops on offense, its a defensive foul.

If he punches you in the face, its a no call or a call on you, because he's so "acrobatic", he can punch you in the face real fast, and then chuck himself backwards like he's been thrown out of a cannon, and it looks like you hit him.

Manu Ginobili is the David Copperfield of the NBA. He's the world's greatest basketball illusionist. He always makes it look to the refs like he's been hit, no matter whether no one touches him, or he hits you.

It is amazing what they let him get away with. What the hell has he done to deserve any of the calls that he gets.

If he is going to flop anyways, we'd might as well just hammer the little floppin son of a bitch every time he enters the lane.

Couple things since I just saw this thread.

1) How long had Finley been using Nash as a crutch in Dallas? Everyone saw that Finley was on the decline but one year after Nash leaves Finley is so bad that its more worthwhile to eat his contract and let him help the Mavericks biggest rival.

2) I agree that Finley might have worked better in the open looks the Pistons are getting in the system they are running this year.

3) Dupree didn't have a jumpshot. Sometimes he would make a couple shots but there is a reason he was exchangable with Darvin Ham. He was definately better defensively then Mo has been.

4)I saw that Dumars head shake and laughed out loud about it, and I also thought Dumars was telling Rip not to let Manu get in his head as they walked under the basket at halftime (or perhaps giving him a suggestion on what to do against manu).

5)Benigni is the shit and though the comparison is apt, I don't like the taint it puts on him. (Also, Manu is losing his hair the opposite way that Benigni lost/is losing his).