The rumor is that a deal will be done in the next few days.

Where do you think he'll end up?

I personally think he belongs in hell.



Art

Yeah, I noticed that hell wasn't an option. Might wanna fix the poll choices, Glenn.

I'll say T'Wolves for Rashad McCants and something else, possibly Eddie Griffin expiring. I'm regurgitating what they suggested on NBA Coast to Coast, but it makes sense.

hell would qualify in "other", wouldn't it?

Wolves or Nuggets. Isiah won't part with his good players to get Artest, LA doesn't have anything to offer Indi really. I think the Nene and Watson deal is Indi's best bet.

It's always a tough call to say that Isiah wouldn't do something ridiculous.....however, New York should logically be the worst possible option for an Artest destination for plenty of reasons.

Golden State.

I think he'll go to Denver in a Nene deal.

Indy gets to either re-sign Nene or clear some cap room to get out of luxury tax land.

Carmela moves to SG.

Denver improves defensively, which is immediately offset by Carmela's feeling that he is now free to jack up threes at will.

Heather AR:: David: You said last season that The Pistons and The Spurs will meet up again in The Finals. Do you still think that? and Which team do you think Ron Aretest would go to if he get trading.

David DuPree: I do think the Pistons and Spurs will meet in the NBA Finals. In the preseason, however, I picked the Pacers to beat the Pistons and meet the Spurs. But the Ron Artest debacle sure threw a monkey wrench into that. The Pistons look almost unbeatable at this point. As for Artest, I would imagine that they will trade him to a Western Conference team. The Lakers sure loom large there, but Golden State and even the Clippers are a possibility. Sacramento could be the front runner, however, with the most to offer.

The Kings? Garcia, a pick and Skinner?

LA Clippers

detroit!

(he's the lions new starting QB)

Source: Artest looks to be bound for L.A.

Indiana is nearing a three-team trade that would send swingman Ron Artest to the Los Angeles Lakers, a league source has told ProBasketballNews.com.

Meanwhile, Lakers forward Devean George would end up in Indiana.

The third team involved in the proposed trade is the Toronto Raptors, according to the source. The Raptors would send Jalen Rose to Los Angeles -- and in return receive Pacers forward Austin Croshere and at least one player from the Lakers.

The source added that George and an undetermined player from the Raptors -- or perhaps a draft pick -- would be to dealt to the Pacers.

"Basically, it's Artest for Devean George, with the Raptors getting involved to make it work financially," the source said. "When and if it happens, this will be a trade that consists of plenty of throw-ins."

Three weeks ago, Artest told the Indianapolis Star that he wanted to be traded. He later apologized to his teammates and told management he would like to remain with the team. But Pacers president Larry Bird told The Indianapolis Star on Monday that he felt "betrayed" by Artest, and said the Pacers will indeed trade him.

Artest has been inactive since his comments about wanting to be traded, which came after he was injured against Dallas on Dec. 6. Since then, the Pacers have been flooded with trade requests.

Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh told the Associated Press on Wednesday the team had narrowed its options down from about 10 teams this week, but did not indicate when a trade might occur.

Artest averaged 19.4 points and 4.9 rebounds through 16 games this season. He was suspended for 73 games last year after the well-documented brawl during a game in Detroit.

Croshere is averaging 8.1 points and 6.3 rebounds for the Pacers, while Rose is scoring 9.6 points in just 25 minutes per game -- his lowest averages in both categories in nine seasons.

George is also near his career lows in scoring (5.6 ppg) and field-goal percentage (38 percent).

The source said he was not given a timetable as to when the proposed trade might take place. "I hear they are very close to finalizing everything, he said, "but it sounds like there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out."
http://www.probasketballnews.com/pbnnews_1229.html

Oh man, I seriously hope this trade goes through. Can you imagine Kobe, Odom, Artest and Rose on the same team?

Obviously Artests value isn't too terribly high right now but Devean George is the best that they can do?

kobe and ron... :D

wow, and they thought the shaq-kobe fued had drama! At least shaq could restrain himself from physically fighting.

Now i understand why artest was talking about how he would welcome a trade to denver now. He probably would hate to be in this situation.

Rose would be the new starting PG for the Lakers.

Phil loves big PGs.

The Lakers get Artest & Rose and only give up George/picks/scraps? Hell, George almost qualifies as scraps himself.

Very interesting.

http://www.startribune.com/511/story/151821.html

Kevin McHale had no updates, which is not surprising. Getting him to talk about personnel moves is harder than it was stopping him in the paint in his prime.

Kent Youngblood, Star Tribune
Last update: December 29, 2005 – 12:09 AM

Kevin McHale had no updates, which is not surprising. Getting him to talk about personnel moves is harder than it was stopping him in the paint in his prime.


But after the Timberwolves shootaround Wednesday morning McHale, the Wolves' vice president of basketball operations, confirmed what has been written more than a few times:

Yes, the Wolves have called Indiana about Ron Artest.

That the two sides have talked was reported in the Star Tribune Dec. 18; reports around the country in recent days have mentioned the Wolves among the teams with a chance to trade for Artest. How far those talks have gotten are unclear, but there is no indication the Pacers and Wolves have moved past opening inquiries toward concrete negotiations.

McHale did say he sees a big need to add scoring punch to the Wolves' roster.

"You either develop it or trade for it," McHale said. "Unless you're waiting for next summer. ... We definitely do need more scoring punch. Our defense has been solid. But some of those tough losses pile up on a team a little bit. You can tend to lose your confidence. We do need another scoring option for this team. A lot of guys here, individually, have to pick it up, too. [But] it would be nice to add that. You're always looking to add that."

McHale wouldn't talk about Artest specifically. But he didn't sound like a man who would necessarily let a player's reputation get in the way of a move.

"It's a very small league, you hear a lot of things, both good and bad," McHale said. "I think you have a decent idea of what you're getting. I don't think you're ever 100 percent sure. But you're pretty sure, especially if a guy's been around the league 5-6-7-8-9 years. Then you make an assessment as to the risk and reward."

Meanwhile, Wolves star Kevin Garnett was asked if Artest would fit in well with the Wolves.

"I think under certain specifications," Garnett said. "We have a group that knows how to play with each other. As long as he abides by that? I don't know. I'm pretty stingy when it comes to my teammates. You know, I'm tight with damn near everybody here."

Garnett did laud Artest, saying he was the rare combination of a superior defender who can also score. But he said he didn't know Artest well, though he did put in a call when Artest was going through his fight-induced suspension last season.

Would he welcome Artest?

"I have no choice," he said. "I don't make no decisions around here. So, whatever comes, I guess I just have to live with it until the summer gets here."

Jones a no-go after callup

Michael Olowokandi's sore right elbow forced him to miss a second consecutive game. But Mark Madsen's sore back was good enough to go as a top big man backup. That meant Dwayne Jones, recalled from the Florida Flame of the NBA Development League, was not active Wednesday night against Seattle.

The Wolves will monitor Olowokandi's progress before deciding how long to keep Jones with the team. The Wolves will spend the final holiday of the year in Florida. They play at Orlando on Friday, then at Miami on New Year's Day. How's this for a resolution: ending a two-game road losing streak?

The perfect deal?

Artest for Fatoine

We get to keep two guys that we hate on two teams that we hate. They can then go about ruining their new teams just as they have their previous ones. Perfect.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051230/SPORTS0403/512300437



Walker wearing out welcome

One of the dozens of rumors involving Pacers forward Ron Artest is a trade to Miami for Antoine Walker. It's unlikely because the Pacers wouldn't want Walker's long-term contract, but from all the booing going on at the Heat's home games, it sounds like Miami's fans would approve such a deal.

According to new rumors, the talks between the Lakers and Pacers have intensified.

Apparently the problems between Kobe and Odom are a lot worse than anyone is willing to admit. Lakers security supposedly had to separate the two on the team bus and they (security) had to stay on the bus to keep them separated.

According to new rumors, the talks between the Lakers and Pacers have intensified.

Apparently the problems between Kobe and Odom are a lot worse than anyone is willing to admit. Lakers security supposedly had to separate the two on the team bus and they (security) had to stay on the bus to keep them separated.

Kobe is such a tool. Give half a hundred guys 40 shots a game and the fact they never have to pass the ball and I'm sure they'd score 35 pts a game as well.

From what I can understand Golden State is the front runner with Murphy and Petrius for Artest and Foster being bantied about...

Getting rid of Foster would be a mistake. The guy does all the little things that sparks the Pacers. He kills the Pistons.

Foster would fit in well with San Francisco, though.

If Artest wasn't such a fucking head case, this would be a solid trade for Golden State.

That said, I think it's a good trade for Indiana as well.

Fuck, I don't know.

i wouldn't do the trade if i was golden state. foster is good against the pistons, but that isn't helping them any. Ronnie is a bad seed and Pietrus has a future.

Golden state doesn't need artest, they need a pf or a c. ron isn't going to help them, he'd just get in richardson's way and take touches away from him and baron.

If the GSW give up Diogu for Arest they should fire Mullin immediately.

Agreed.

Indianapolis Star - Indiana Pacers officials aren't talking, but a former Pacer thinks he knows where Ron Artest will be traded.

Al Harrington told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Wednesday that he heard from people in Indiana the Pacers were close to a deal that would send Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for forward Corey Maggette.

"Any team with a sane Ron Artest is going to be tough to deal with," Harrington told the Atlanta newspaper. "Any team he's on with his mind right is going to the playoffs and is going to make some noise. So it'll be good for Ron and for the Clippers."

Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh declined comment Wednesday.

The Pacers placed Artest on the inactive list Dec. 12, two days after he voiced his desire to be traded. Artest said he hears the rumors about where he will end up.

"You hear about them, but you never know what's true," he said. "I'm just waiting to find out which team I'll be playing for."

Unconfirmed report that Artest heading to the LAC for Corey Magette.

By SEKOU SMITH
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 01/12/06
WASHINGTON — Hawks forward Al Harrington was the owner of the league's best rumor prior to Wednesday night's game against Washington at the MCI Center. Harrington said he heard from people in Indiana that the Pacers and Clippers were close to finalizing a deal swapping Ron Artest for Corey Maggette. That deal, were it to happen, would finally put to rest the rumors that Harrington will be a part of a trade that frees Artest from the Pacers and the Pacers from their volatile and restless star. "Yeah, that would get it out of the water and off the Internet and all that nonsense," Harrington said. "But I've known for a couple of weeks now that nothing was going to happen with me. [Hawks general manager Billy Knight] told me that if there was going to be anything done he'd let me know. So it's been off of my mind for a while now." Harrington said he'll be happy for Artest, whenever he finally returns to the floor. And he's convinced that whatever team Artest suits up for will be dangerous. "Any team with a sane Ron Artest is going to be tough to deal with," Harrington said. "Any team with he's on with his mind right, is going to the playoffs and is going to make some noise. So it'll be good for Ron and for the Clippers."

FUCKER!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to hate the Clippers now!!!!


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Well, now Memphis jumped ahead of the Clips as my 2nd favorite team.

CLIPPERS are back in 2nd!!!!

The Pacers doctors said Mags didn't pass the physical!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indiana ended its pursuit of Maggette, injured Dec. 5 against the Miami Heat, in part because he might require surgery to implant a screw in his foot and be sidelined the remainder of the season, NBA sources said.

Indiana, in talks for weeks with the Clippers, also rejected a proposal for power forward Chris Wilcox that would not have included Maggette.

I can understand why they would be reluctant to trade for an injured player but I am not sure if any team can offer a deal better than what the Clips are offering.

Al Harrington > Peter Vescey