I'm hearing things.

I am too. Air conditioner's running and my fingers are killing this keyboard.

I'm lost.

Brandon Jennings. Glan's hearing things, likely unsubstantial other than he wants out and we need a PG.

Thanks!

Please no.

not a good fit IMO. I think it's all talk since Jennings just said he doesn't want to go back to the bucks. no way on earth i'd pay him $12 mil a year.

Sign and trade with Milwaukee... we lose Stuckey... Jennings gets a 3 yeard deal with a flat rate of $6.5 mil.... 2nd and 3rd seasons at our option :-)

@InsideHoops 27s

A sign-and-trade deal may send Brandon Jennings to the Detroit Pistons, reports ESPN and Yahoo. #NBA

NOOOOO! STOP HEARING THINGS, GLAN!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f6cf6332e19227e07e7645adeb1b3cb1/tumblr_mksghkBIrU1s5jwlco1_500.gif

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--pistons-to-acquire-brandon-jennings-in-sign-and-trade-deal-211830240.html

He's no Luigi, but he'll do.

Man, scooped again.

Sounds like Knight's gone.

Bubbles rejoices.

I'm hearing things.

#sources

What the hell, depending on the contract and what we ship out, this could be fun.

Please include Stuckey and/or CV.

Hearing Knight is part of the deal.

Ugh.

Slava, Knight and Middleton for Jennings.

3 yrs, $24 million. I don't think he's a real point guard, but I suppose it's an upgrade over Knight and neither Middleton nor Kratsov are rotation players. That's not a terrible contract. I just hope Chauncey can turn Jennings into a leader and he's not a locker room cancer.

3 yrs, $24 million. I don't think he's a real point guard, but I suppose it's an upgrade over Knight and neither Middleton nor Kratsov are rotation players. That's not a terrible contract. I just hope Chauncey can turn Jennings into a leader and he's not a locker room cancer.

My thoughts as well.

ima miss my dead gay knight...

i'm torn. part of me loved knight's intangibles and potential so I hate to see him go so early on. I think he really could have turned the corner.

Jennings is an instant upgrade and could really help elevate this team to a serious playoff team- in a best case scenario. but he's a guy who can't guard anyone and is very streaky. I would've preferred a different deal that didn't involve knight. but I guess i'll wait to see what we do with stuckey and CV's expiring deals before I get too mad.

Hello Siva!?

the 3 for 1 deal opens up a couple of roster spots. just saying.....

gotta say though. dumars is slowly but surely really putting together something to be excited about. the expiring deals of stuck and CV could either net us another big FA next year or be used in a trade to acquire a prized piece of the puzzle to take us to an even higher level.

i'm excited but sad to lose knight, as inconsistent as he's been.

The one player that I didn't want to go out of the 3, is Kravtsov(sp?). But we have plenty of bigs on our roster.

Also, mark me down as SMFH at these peeps talking about CBill turning this guy or that guy into a great PG or something. Fuck CBIll. Piston's fan keep posting about how fuckin great CBIll is. Ok, let me vent for a minute. He's a fuckin clown. He didn't do shit before he got here and hasn't done shit sense. We'd be deep in the 4th quarter and a timeout was called cuz he couldn't get a play going and he'd stay on the court tossing up little layups and shit till he decided it was time to go to the bench. Dude is NOT what you think he is. He had a great roster and we were hungry and 'WE' won a title. NOT HIM! The fuckin team did.

Seriously, this facination with this clown is unbelievable to me. If he was sooooooo fuckin good we should have won another title.

And all his bullshit about being hurt that he left. Fuck you. He wanted to go to Denver. Fuckin clown. I can't believe how he's kept on this pedestal. Also, how do you spell pedestal. Fuck it. I can't believe how he's kept on this throne. He's a fuck douche nozzle, douche hose and bag all in one.
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Also, I don't know shit about Jennings but won't miss Knight one bit.

I think my favorite part of this trade is that the Pistons didn't give up the expiring contracts of Stuckey or Villanueva, so the team will still have some decent trade flexibility with them down the road.

On its own, it's still an upgrade at the point, if only a mild one, and for a reasonable contract.

i'm torn. part of me loved knight's intangibles and potential so I hate to see him go so early on. I think he really could have turned the corner.

Jennings is an instant upgrade and could really help elevate this team to a serious playoff team- in a best case scenario. but he's a guy who can't guard anyone and is very streaky. I would've preferred a different deal that didn't involve knight. but I guess i'll wait to see what we do with stuckey and CV's expiring deals before I get too mad.
Yup.
They don't call him the best color man in the business for nothing folks!

Was tweeting with Hermy and he thinks Joe will hold onto Stuckey and CV and let them expire to assist in re-signing Monroe.

Brandon Knight and Brandon Jennings are basically the same player. Knight a little more heart on defense, Jennings better at distributing to team mates.

Isn't Jennings a very me-first type of player? If that's the case, this doesn't really solidify my commitment to come back to the Pistons....

Joe really needed to consider 'the wooing of MoTown' before making this deal.

#fail

MoTwon thinks Jennings is a WARRIOR.

Isn't Jennings a very me-first type of player? If that's the case, this doesn't really solidify my commitment to come back to the Pistons....

he has been a chucker for all his career, doesn't necessarily mean he'd be one here though.

So JD pulls down his pants and gets a BJ?
I suppose it beats eating too much BK.

We have an immediate need for a backup C.

We have an immediate need for a backup C.

Goodshill was talking Oden last night.

We're over the cap now, though.

You guys, I think Billups is really gonna turn Jennings into a great PG. So happy Chauncey's back, you guys.

Brandon Knight and Brandon Jennings are basically the same player. Knight a little more heart on defense, Jennings better at distributing to team mates.

Fucking, No.

Most important to note, and I'll lead with this, he actually draws defensive attention.
Something Knight hasn't done the entire time he has been here.

Jennings can operate as the ball handler in the pick and roll, find the angle, and then attack it.
Knight has not displayed ability to do so. He always looks tentative, picking bad spots to attack, and disrupts plays.

Jennings has play making ability in the passing game.
Knight rarely displays any of this.

Jennings can finish with his dominant hand against half court defense.
Knight is only a good finisher in transition.

Jennings has a step back jumper to operate as the shooter in a pick and roll.
Knight is a spot up/transition shooter that shoots poorly off the dribble.

Jennings can make separation for his shot in traffic
Knight can only shoot out of the offense.

Jennings can ball-hawk defensively, and has consistently grabbed steals his entire career.
Knight has never had any tangible effect on defense, aside from being excellent at sagging-off and appearing to be giving great defensive effort while never really altering shots or forcing turnovers.

Other reasons.
Jennings is better free throw shooter.
Jennings is quicker and more agile.
Jennings is confident (for better or worse) in his ability to be a scorer.

Knight is taller.


Is Bubbles Happy? Yes, fucking absolutely. We acquired a middle of the pack NBA starting PG that can run pick and roll with out bigs and get his own shot and we traded 2 role players and a D leaguer to get it. Everyone likes to ballwash Brandon about having all of this untapped potential, fuck that noise, Jennings has FAR more potential at every single facet of the game except for defense (size) and in that area he is already more productive anyway. Best of all, I don't have to listen to Piston fans ballwashing this fucker anymore. Fucking Joey Harrington of the Detroit Pistons bullshit.

As for not having a backup C. Most teams don't even have a Center, let alone two of them, So I think we'll be fine. Mitchell has way more upside and should be getting that burn.

Bubbs, all I can say is, I hope you're right.

Joe really needed to consider 'the wooing of MoTown' before making this deal.

#fail

If Joe would consult me we never would have signed Charlie V, Ben Gordon or Flip Murray. And Wally Szerbiak would be our starting SF.

KnHndbNPYi0

The one player that I didn't want to go out of the 3, is Kravtsov(sp?). But we have plenty of bigs on our roster.


Also, I don't know shit about Jennings but won't miss Knight one bit.

I agree with Tahoe on these points.

Okay, so he's either a phenomenal talent or a total bag of shit. Sweet.

KnHndbNPYi0

A 2 guard based team has 2 guards that took inefficient shots, you don't say?
Maybe they should have made Larry Sanders the focal point and his band of merry dead pylons in the front court.

It is easier to take better shots as a PG when you have a strong front court. Our boy is certainly a chucker though, let him chuck up some lobs and see he enjoys that as much.

Isn't Jennings a very me-first type of player? If that's the case, this doesn't really solidify my commitment to come back to the Pistons....

TRANSLATION:

still don't care

There's a good chance 'we' will be better cuz of this trade, but thats about as far as I'll go.

Also, with Chauncey here, he can turn both Monroe and Drummond into HOFers.

^ Smiff too.

We don't need a SG, CBill will turn one of our roster garbage into an All Star!

@BrandonJennings: I will be wearing #7 next year. Shout Kenny Anderson #Pistons

Sounds like Bucks at gonna waive Slava.

Too bad we can't bring him back.

Saw the headlines on that but didn't read the story. Can't we get him back after a certain period of time?

I think we did this a couple of times 10 years ago or so, but rules might have changed.

Saw the headlines on that but didn't read the story. Can't we get him back after a certain period of time?

I think we did this a couple of times 10 years ago or so, but rules might have changed.
I am pretty sure the rules have changed.

Just read Perry Farrell's article and he said any team could claim him. But I dought he put much time into the rules. Krav would fill a huge hole for us.

Originally I thought we had a lot of bigs but we really don't have center depth if Monroe plays the 4.

I was under the impression that new rules said you can't reacquire a player that you have traded for 1 year.

^ I goog'd it and could find nothing.

I think Joe pissed some people in league office off after Elden (and Lindsey?).

^ Was that who it was? Thats right. Seems like friggin Lindsey did it twice...lol.

Was it Lindsey that Ainge took on so we could get RasWeed and then he came back?

Was it Lindsey that Ainge took on so we could get RasWeed and then he came back?

Yup.

And the reason for the change in rules was a totally, completely washed-up Gary Payton was traded from the Celtics to the Hawks, waived, and then re-signed immediately with Boston.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130804/SPORTS03/308040127/detroit-pistons-brandon-jennings-rajon-rondo

interesting thought if nothing else.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130804/SPORTS03/308040127/detroit-pistons-brandon-jennings-rajon-rondo

interesting thought if nothing else.

I wouldn't trade anything of value for Rondo right now. I'd do a swap with filler and Jennings, but that isn't even legal for months anyway.

Was this posted?

If not, FUCK, finally something positive from this dipshit. I only call him a dipshit cuz you'd think he'd be a lil more grateful for having a team sign him when no other team had interest...apparently.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2013/08/brandon_jennings_says_trade_to.html#incart_flyout_ sports

There was certainly interest, but just not at the $12 million/year he reportedly wanted (and wasn't worth).

I want to have a soft spot for Jennings simply because he said "fuck you" to college and went to Europe.

Oh, I thought he was turning down 8 per. He sounds like he's a lil bit headstrong. Thats ok as long as its directed at the other team.

I agree with some of the hype articles written simply in that Smith and Jennings added to Drummond and Monroe make me far more likely to watch Pistons games this season (at least early on) than, say, 30 Rock on Netflix. That's not something I have been able to say for a few years (only replace 30 Rock with Arrested Development, etc).

http://deadspin.com/nothing-prettier-than-a-brandon-jennings-floater-1679272547

Jennings is playing a lot closer to his peek than his valley these days.

Bubbles was pretty dead on in this thread (the posts I reread anyway).

Achilles?

Achilles?
He was on a tear... now it's torn.

He was on a tear... now it's torn.

Thankfully, next season is his contract season in case he doesn't return to form.
Also, my heart , it hurtssssssss

Being waived by the Knix.

Seeing fans talking about re-signing him. Anybody seen this from a legit source?

Are there any fans who want to re-sign him?

He's cooked.

He's cooked.

Stick a fork in him, he's DONE!

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