Who's the consensus #1 pick in the draft?

I need to know who to start following.

Cody Zeller. Nerlens Noel has an outside shot.

6 of the top 7 prospects are all big men. The lone stud scoring wing of the group is shabazz Mohammed, who from all accounts seems like the kind of player that will be very good but sign with LA or Miami ten seconds after he becomes a free agent. He's obsessed with the spotlight.

10 of the top 15 are Cs, PFs or SFs...

Ideally we get a quality big man to team with Monroe and Drummond... and if we can get one cheap via the Draft it's better than spending huge money in free agency

OP...C'mon debbie downer we aren't going to be that bad...well maybe.

10 of the top 15 are Cs, PFs or SFs...

Ideally we get a quality big man to team with Monroe and Drummond... and if we can get one cheap via the Draft it's better than spending huge money in free agency
Not really going to go father than the top ten this early into the game. Even as the top 10 goes, probably half of them won't stay there by the end of march.

Every year someone comes out of nowhere to sneak into the top 5. Last year it was Thomas Robinson. The year before it was Derrick Williams. I'm sure someone new will be in the mix this season, with no clear cut dominant stars.

Figures that we will have our highest pick with no obvious superstar out there. We will probably win the lotto.

why isn't this thread here yet?

prospects I like so far are Noel and uhhh.... yeah. him.


If Noel is available when the Pistons pick I'd take him and trade Monroe. With Noel and Drummond no one is scoring against Detroit. It would instantly bring back the under 70 chants provided there's more than fucking parking cones on the perimeter.


I don't really quite understand the Shabazz Muhammed hype as of right now, but i ain't seen too much of the dude either.why does everyone appear to be in love with the kid?

I posted it after watching this team play the first game or two of the year, lol.

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?17272-2013-NBA-Draft

I posted it after watching this team play the first game or two of the year, lol.

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?17272-2013-NBA-Draft

oh, i didn't see it.

Since it was you that made one, fuck your thread beeoootch! This is my shit, muthafucka!

Actually, this team sucks so badly, two draft/lottery threads are warranted.

Actually, this team sucks so badly, two draft/lottery threads are warranted.

just come clean and admit you're too lazy to lock/merge/delete or whatever

From what I have read the 2013 Draft is deep in terms of "reasonable" talent and a lot of them projected to go in the Lottery are bigs...

http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Look who they have us Drafting... at #4 as of 22/12/12... imagine that

Also noticed McLemore is #3

Would anyone object to taking a big man and the trading him on Draft Day for 2 lower picks?

Or would you guys expect an established impact player for a pick in the 6-10 range?

From what I have read the 2013 Draft is deep in terms of "reasonable" talent and a lot of them projected to go in the Lottery are bigs...

http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Look who they have us Drafting... at #4 as of 22/12/12... imagine that

Also noticed McLemore is #3

Would anyone object to taking a big man and the trading him on Draft Day for 2 lower picks?

Or would you guys expect an established impact player for a pick in the 6-10 range?

first of all props for posting here and not glenn's shitty thread.
I've heard lots of people really hyping up shabazz. folks on a washington wizards board were wishing for him. i don't get it personally. I'd rather have Marcus Smart. I think he'll be better as of right now. I know it's not popular, and i'll probably be wrong. fuck it though, my wishlist is 1. noel 2. smart

nbadraft.net is not the place to go for anything remotely accurate. They just go with whatever is popular among fans at the moment. There's very little work put in.

DX had last year's draft nailed, as well as the one before it. They give very accurate scouting info.

why isn't this thread here yet?

prospects I like so far are Noel and uhhh.... yeah. him.


If Noel is available when the Pistons pick I'd take him and trade Monroe. With Noel and Drummond no one is scoring against Detroit. It would instantly bring back the under 70 chants provided there's more than fucking parking cones on the perimeter.


Noel might be a dominant defensive NBA starter in 3-4 years or so, and his offensive game isn't much better than Drummond's. So your plan is to dump the only guy on the team capable of consistently feeding drummond in the one place he's able to score, as well as create his own offense, and replace him with a much skinnier big that's just as raw, instead of, you know, just DRAFTING Noel and keeping Monroe? Great plan!

That should be our franchise motto from now on. As soon as we have a young player that can make an immediate impact, we dump him for a younger player that can't.

I should hope nobody will score on drummond and Noel, because we would pretty much have to win every game 65-60 with those two up front....

Noel might be a dominant defensive NBA starter in 3-4 years or so, and his offensive game isn't much better than Drummond's. So your plan is to dump the only guy on the team capable of consistently feeding drummond in the one place he's able to score, as well as create his own offense, and replace him with a much skinnier big that's just as raw, instead of, you know, just DRAFTING Noel and keeping Monroe? Great plan!

That should be our franchise motto from now on. As soon as we have a young player that can make an immediate impact, we dump him for a younger player that can't.

I should hope nobody will score on drummond and Noel, because we would pretty much have to win every game 65-60 with those two up front....

Exactly. Noel is the LAST guy this team needs. He's a worse version of Drummond, and his rookie contract will cost $2.5 million more per season.

Whatever happens this season, I'll be rooting for the worst possible scenario for the draft lottery. Starting this summer, the Pistons are going to have to pay Monroe, Drummond, and Knight, so I'd rather start getting pieces that fit around them than more young players. In fact, I hope they trade the pick, if that's possible.

Noel might be a dominant defensive NBA starter in 3-4 years or so, and his offensive game isn't much better than Drummond's. So your plan is to dump the only guy on the team capable of consistently feeding drummond in the one place he's able to score, as well as create his own offense, and replace him with a much skinnier big that's just as raw, instead of, you know, just DRAFTING Noel and keeping Monroe? Great plan!

That should be our franchise motto from now on. As soon as we have a young player that can make an immediate impact, we dump him for a younger player that can't.

I should hope nobody will score on drummond and Noel, because we would pretty much have to win every game 65-60 with those two up front....
that's the thing, I have soured quite a bit on Monroe. Dude can't defend for shit, and his offense isn't worth shit either. He's an inefficient volume scorer that doesn't defend, and he's a big guy. Fuck that.

and if you're banking on the dude who get roughly 3 assists a game to make drummond a threat offensively I'd say you're setting Drummond up for failure.

Andre needs to learn more post moves. He's got a lot of learning to do.

Monroe is a career %53 shooter. He's hardly inefficient.. He's also not a terrible defender. He just cant block shots. He needs Drummond playing center behind him, just like Drummond needs Monroe to take the pressure off him to score.

that's the thing, I have soured quite a bit on Monroe. Dude can't defend for shit, and his offense isn't worth shit either. He's an inefficient volume scorer that doesn't defend, and he's a big guy. Fuck that.
You could probably trade Monroe for Cousins. :)

Cousins is a worse defender than Monroe. And far less effecient.

If Cousins is ever on the Pistons roster, I'm done with the Pistons.

I don't much care for Cousin's game, but him inevitably going Spreewell on Frank would easily be the coolest shit to happen on the Pistons this year.

Mclemore vs Muhammad is turning into a very interesting scenario.

Muhammad is clearly the more nba ready player and has all star potential in his own right, whereas mclemore has freak athleticism and instincts, the potential to be special, but is pretty raw by nba standards.

Indiana star Oladipo leaving for NBA

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-indiana-star-oladipo-180453093--ncaab.html

Guys Guys !!! Trey Burke right? Guys COoooooommmmonnnnnn

Where is Burke going to fall? If he's the consensus first pick and the Pistons had the first pick would they pick him. If he's on the board when they pick do they pick him?

What have we cost us, 3spots in the lottery with this streak?? So dumb. Every year.

Olapido seems like a perfect fit... but will he be there when we pick?

Fucking winning meaningless games again! We're so fucking bad we can't even tank properly

I just really hope the pistons don't take Shabazz. I'm not even too concerned about his tourette's syndrome or the fact that he was lying about his age either, those are icing on the cake. I'm more of a hater of the fact that he can't dribble with his off-hand to save his life, doesn't pass at all and he doesn't impress me defensively either. He's getting compared to Harden, but he reminds me of Stuckey except instead of just being horribly bad at moving the ball he's non-existent in that field of basketball.

I just really hope the pistons don't take Shabazz. I'm not even too concerned about his tourette's syndrome or the fact that he was lying about his age either, those are icing on the cake. I'm more of a hater of the fact that he can't dribble with his off-hand to save his life, doesn't pass at all and he doesn't impress me defensively either. He's getting compared to Harden, but he reminds me of Stuckey except instead of just being horribly bad at moving the ball he's non-existent in that field of basketball.

You're exactly right here, shabazz is flawed in many areas and unfortunately has many "skills" that parallel stuckey in that he can't dribble (or can only go left) has difficulty finishing around the rim (which is a bit surprising because he is a better athlete than stuckey) and has blinders on with the ball and usually forces up a bad shot vs. passing to teammates.

Having said that the one thing that does make him a better pro prospect than stuckey is that he really is a very skilled catch and shoot player. He can move without the ball and knock down a jumpshot. It is without question his greatest attribute offensively and something that will translate into the NBA very well.

I also think Shabazz has a chance to be a better pro than a college player since the spacing in the NBA will help him get better shots off the dribble due to the 3-pt line being 4-ft further and him being able to knock down that shot. In college it's easier to take away a person's ability to hit a 3 and still cram bodies in the paint via the zone taking away the drive something that isn't a part of the NBA game. He won't have 3 or 4 bodies attacking his one-dimensional drives to the basket in the NBA like he did in college.

I am not in love with shabazz but if he is still around at 7 or 8 and he's best player available, and he probably is the 7th or 8th best prospect in this draft, i wouldn't be horrified by the selection like I was with Rodney Stuckey.

Any chance Oladipo is there at 7?

Hope so GD - just seems like the perfect fit

From the last DX Mock though he's top 5. They have us taking Len with Zeller and Bazz still on the board

Hope so GD - just seems like the perfect fit

From the last DX Mock though he's top 5. They have us taking Len with Zeller and Bazz still on the board

I'm of the opinion that if zellar is still on the board at 7 the pistons should jump on the opportunity. I still contend that he is one of the better pro prospects available in this draft. I think, like drummond last year, he was the victim of being touted as one of the best big men in the country and lousy point guard play. That's a deadly combo. Zellar rarely received the ball with good positioning to shoot and too often was asked to create shots for himself while facing the triple and quadruple teams you sometimes get with college zones and being the one player opposing teams game plan against.

With all the attention given to him it also made guys like oladipo that much better. I like oladipo as a pro prospect but am not sold on him being lottery-quality. He does a lot of things well but isn't good enough at any one thing, in my opinion, to be anything more than a role-player in the NBA. He's not exceptional off the dribble and doesn't have NBA 3-pt. range which makes him a bit of a risk as a starting 2-guard. He's also slightly undersized as a 2. I loved him earlier in the year when he seemed like a guy you could get late in the first round as a steal. He's definitely a bit over-hyped largely due to the benefits he received as a player playing next to a guy like zellar who received so much defensive attention and focus.

Zellar, imo, has above average mobility and play-making ability for a big man that will easily translate to the NBA. I think pro scouts sometimes watch too much college basketball and not enough pro ball. He won't be facing the type of defensive attention in the pros as he did in college and will have better guards and shooters around him to make the game easier in the NBA than it was this year in college. And with the game expanding out to the 3-pt line and zellar's ability as a big man to extend to the perimeter/handle the ball makes him a guy that should excel in a pick and roll situation.

I definitely hope NBA are dumb enough to let him fall but think when workouts happen you'll see his stock rise up again.

And trade Zellar? Keep him?

I think we should take the BPA and just roll with that

We don't have enough talent on the roster than we can afford to overlook anyone, even big men.

Yes Drummond and Monroe are nice up front but they can't play 96 minutes between them and our other bigs are fucking useless or completely unproven. Nova, Jerebko, Maxiell, Slava... suck!

If Zeller is the best player on the board take him and use him as the first big off the bench. Monroe (34), Drummond (30), Zeller (24) leaves minimal playing time (8 whole minutes) for Slava to come in and foul the fuck outta people in the paint

I just got a little bit of wood thinking of having Zel, Monroe and Dre.

We need to take the BPA, but I think Trey Burke would be a good fit. #2 most hated player in college for me actually but he solves our needs. Then again, we have a countless number of needs..including finding a gotdamn head coach.

I always thought Zeller is an overrated piece of shit that won't make it in the league, but I guess that's just me.

This draft fucking sucks. Trade the picks for players.