"Buckets"...

I'd prefer we call him "The Wedding"... cause the minute he got married to the other 4 starters we started playing much better.. lame...

Kyle "The Wedding" Singler :)

Anyway... saw this video and it wasn't posted here so BOOM! there ya go:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8680971&categoryid=2378529

I wonder if the pistons would be making videos like this if fans were actually showing up to the games?

Dude, who gives a fuck why he's making videos?

And if fans aren't turning up then that's on them.

Fairweather fuckers are the absolute worst

Dude, who gives a fuck why he's making videos?

And if fans aren't turning up then that's on them.

Fairweather fuckers are the absolute worst

really?
I got no major problem watching a bad team and rooting for them to win. I still watch the Pistons. I don't like going to games much anyway, because I don't like crowds and overpriced everythings, but I'd still go to a game with the right folks. still, this mindstate is kinda crazy to me.
the pistons are an entertainment product. They provide a service. If that product is lacking are people supposed to still purchase it? would you still eat at your favorite restaurant if they swapped the menu and the food sucked?


oh and i'd definitely say it somewhat matters why the video was made. if they're focusing on putting asses in the seats through viral videos instead of winning games i'd say their direction is off. maybe you'd prefer gimmicky marketing campaigns over winning basketball, but I don't. the idea they took a crew and drove around detroit for a day or two with a portable hoop in the middle of the season is fucked up to me. If that sits right with you, so be it.

I wonder if the pistons would be making videos like this if fans were actually showing up to the games?

Singler has been making these since college.

the pistons are an entertainment product. They provide a service. If that product is lacking are people supposed to still purchase it? would you still eat at your favorite restaurant if they swapped the menu and the food sucked?

Really? You're gonna do the whole "NBA is entertainment" thing? A movie is entertainment. A concert is entertainment.

Supporting your favourite team?

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/North-American-Journal-Psychology/159922628.html


In recent years, Wann and his associates have presented evidence that level of identification with a local team is positively related to psychological health

Do you find your mental health entertaining?

And if you don't believe that report... here's another:

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/gdn/15/1/75/


Previous work has consistently found positive relationships between levels of sport team identification and social psychological well-being. According to the Team Identification–Social Psychological Health Model, these effects result from the increased social connections fans generate through their interest in the team

Fuck "fans" that consider the Pistons "entertainment" and only show up when the team is a legit playoff threat. You cunts should have to pay a premium cause you fake ass "fans" don't attend unless the wind is blowing in the right direction


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oh and i'd definitely say it somewhat matters why the video was made. if they're focusing on putting asses in the seats through viral videos instead of winning games i'd say their direction is off.

Really? You think that the organisation is doing that? Really? GTFOH!


maybe you'd prefer gimmicky marketing campaigns over winning basketball, but I don't. the idea they took a crew and drove around detroit for a day or two with a portable hoop in the middle of the season is fucked up to me. If that sits right with you, so be it.

Were you not entertained?

Cause that's what it's all about right? You wanna be entertained, you want some slap stick shit with your quality basketball team. Well right now the Pistons can't give you a quality basketball team - so you get the entertainment!

How can you consider the team "entertainment" and then bitch about "gimmicky marketing campaigns"? Those campaigns are aimed at fuckers like YOU! Fuckers that haven't poured their heart and soul into the team and only go to a game every now and then when other "entertainment" options aren't hot and sexy!

you know, i was going to respond to that word by word.
then i realized how well balanced and healthy you sound.

Of course I'm well balanced and healhty!

I found the Singler vid entertaining and it didn't even occur to me that the organisation is focusing on this kind of shit to put asses in seats! That's just fucking stupid. How many more people do you honestly think are gonna go see a game because of this video?

If they wanted to use stupid shit to put asses in seats they wouldn't use Kyle fucking Singler! They'd use Andre Drummond! They'd use Tayshaun Prince! Wouldn't they use Greg Monroe? Or Brandon Knight? Or Rodney Stuckey?

Why put Singler front and center of your gimmicky marketing campaign? It makes ZERO sense to use him! NONE! Not one person is gonna buy a ticket because of Kyle Singler's video.

You're a little bit paranoid methinks. Which is healthy - but really? The Pistons are focusing on gimmicky marketing campaigns fronted by Kyle Singler to put asses in seats? Dude, take your meds!

To reiterate: singler has been making these videos since his duke days.

To reiterate: singler has been making these videos since his duke days.

This wasn't a Kyle Singler production. It was a Pistons production. I'm sure that's why it was him in the video and not anyone else though.

Of course I'm well balanced and healhty!

I found the Singler vid entertaining and it didn't even occur to me that the organisation is focusing on this kind of shit to put asses in seats! That's just fucking stupid. How many more people do you honestly think are gonna go see a game because of this video?

If they wanted to use stupid shit to put asses in seats they wouldn't use Kyle fucking Singler! They'd use Andre Drummond! They'd use Tayshaun Prince! Wouldn't they use Greg Monroe? Or Brandon Knight? Or Rodney Stuckey?

Why put Singler front and center of your gimmicky marketing campaign? It makes ZERO sense to use him! NONE! Not one person is gonna buy a ticket because of Kyle Singler's video.

You're a little bit paranoid methinks. Which is healthy - but really? The Pistons are focusing on gimmicky marketing campaigns fronted by Kyle Singler to put asses in seats? Dude, take your meds!

How many people will see a game? I don't think that's the immediate goal. I think the goal is to focus more on Singler, and I think it will be quite effective.

If I'm the head of marketing for the Pistons the first thing I'd try to do is establish a difference between the current team and the team of the last two/three years. That's difficult to do when the roster is so similar, but a fresh face does that. Considering the previous successful teams took an underdog blue collar themed marketing approach with a lot of success, it makes sense to promote a 2nd round pick who's starting at SG without too much buzz as of yet. Andre Drummond would be more than ideal, but he's gotta get minutes first before any marketing is done concerning him. In terms of marketing I think this was a great video. It's extremely cost effective advertising to create a video that goes viral like this. The thing that surprises me is that the coaching and management of the team would sign off on it at the time they did.

This wasn't a Kyle Singler production. It was a Pistons production. I'm sure that's why it was him in the video and not anyone else though.

They sanctioned it, but it was his original idea.

Done sleepin'... this kid has got "IT"

Singler makes his teammates better. It's rare to say that about a non-point guard, but it's true in his case.

Who cares who allowed the vid to happen? It's good PR and I seriously doubt the kid missed practice or anything important in order to film it.

It's harmless fun and should be looked at as such.

Seems we got a good one with him - but could he realistically fill the SF or SG starting spot long term?

Kyle is playing very effective and efficient, he just has a great basketball iq and makes few mistakes, he can be a 4th, 5th option...but at SF, this team needs a good SG

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2012/11/27/3697632/the-rise-of-kyle-singler-strengths-and-sustainability

Kyle is playing very effective and efficient, he just has a great basketball iq and makes few mistakes, he can be a 4th, 5th option...but at SF, this team needs a good SG

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2012/11/27/3697632/the-rise-of-kyle-singler-strengths-and-sustainability

Agree. But who?!?!

Agree. But who?!?!

Fat. Joe. Dumars.

Redick + Tony Allen...one for offense, one for defense

Igoudala, Monta Ellis might be available and Mayo will be a UFA too, but they will be too expensive and not worth it

Drummond/ Slava
Monroe/ Jonas / Charlie
Singler/ Prince / Middleton
Redick/ Allen/ English
Knight/ Stuckey

But id rather try to trade stuckey+ prince for a better SG if possible

I mentioned Redick a while ago for obvious reasons - shooting!

Assuming Monroe, Drummond and Knight = the foundation then IMO you need shooters around them to provide the spacing they need to be their "best". Hard to find a better shooter than Redick!

Even if we did sign someone like Redick we seriously need to look at our big men depth. Slava, Jonas, Nova... fucking hell that's weak as can be!

We seem to be focusing on the perimeter despite the fact we have Singler, Prince, Jerebko, Stuckey, Knight, English and Middleton under contract for next season.

IMO:

Drummond + ???? + Slava - Slava is unproven
Monroe + ???? + Jerebko - Jonas is better suited to SF
Singler + Prince + Jerebko - not that bad
???? + Stuckey + English - Kimberly isn't proven
Knight + Stuckey

I'd prefer we sign a quality big man, a quality SG and a reasonable PG... because I don't want Stuckey to be the only proven guard on the bench!

Millsap, Redick and Calderon? Is that a pipe dream? Too much focus offensively?

After next season we tell Stuckey to GTFO...

Drummond 30/Monroe 18 (Slava in case shit happens)
Monroe 16/Millsap 32 (Jerebko in case shit happens)
Singler 20/Prince 28 (Jerebko in case shit happens)
Redick 28/Calderon 10/English 10
Knight 32/Calderon 16

Yeah, yeah, yeah now Calderon is the only proven guard on the bench - but this is after next season when we should know if English is capable of playing the back up SG role. This also doesn't include our 2013 Picks - who would have a hard time cracking the rotation

And this line-up allows us to fade Prince to black and insert Jerebko as the back up SF, who only plays at PF if some shit went down.

Looking at it yeah, there is way too much focus offensively and that would put too much pressure on Drummond

Back to the drawing board

It's really premature, but stuckey might prove invaluable as a 3rd guard.