Hopefully this wasn't already posted...


The Pistons signed Kwame Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=981) last season because of his defense. Ironically, head coach John Kuester says Brown isn't playing because he's not defending well in the Pistons' schemes. Brown obviously disagrees with Kuester.
"Listen, man, I don't want something to be flared up on what I say," Brown told The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/article/20100209/SPORTS0102/2090331/1127/sports0102/Kwame-Brown-to-do-it-John-Kuester-s-way). "I will do what the coach says in order to get better, although that is a first because there is one thing I do bring to the table and that is defense. That's the first time I heard that. It's the first time a coach said I don't play defense. But like I said, I will learn to play the defense he wants me to play."
Ben Wallace (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=885) says Brown needs more hunger.
"Without a doubt he can contribute," Wallace said. "But he got to want it. He's got to be hungry, man. For me to say you got to do this and do, that's pointless. You got to want it. Look, man, when you go out there, you got to do what you got to do. If you go out there and are making the same mistakes the starters are making, then you don't need to be out there."

Kwame is a gutless pile of shit.

Kwame is a nutless pile of shit.
Fixed.

Kwame Brown's defense can't be the only thing keeping him on the bench (http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/2010/02/john_kuesters_criticism_of_kwa.html)

Read it yesterday, so much for him having any heart. Hopefully he'll get on a team that respects his amazing post defense instead of him challenging Maxiell for worst pick and roll defender on this team.

Kwame Brown's defense can't be the only thing keeping him on the bench (http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/2010/02/john_kuesters_criticism_of_kwa.html)
Did Kwame pay this guy to write the first few paragraphs? Ijust read this last two, weird way to diss Kwame at the end.

I hoped Kwame wasn't playing because we wanted to keep him healthy pending some trade.

Trade his ass already - $4 mil expiring contract and a ton of teams are "dying" to get more cap space.

Surely we can get something for this lazy fuck?

Joe probably can't take anything back for him.

Surely we could send him to Miami (trade exception) for Cook's tiny little salary?

Cook makes approx $1 mil. That's it.

It helps Miami get an additional million in space and they absorb the rest of Kwame's contract via a trade exception they're not likely to use anyway.

Shit, Miami could send us their first rounder too, clearing that salary off their books as well.

Fuck this Ownership! Fuck the Sale!

Get some youth/picks for our shitty vets

Trade his ass already - $4 mil expiring contract and a ton of teams are "dying" to get more cap space.

Surely we can get something for this lazy fuck?
What we need is a team that will have cap space, but could really use another few million in order to land the big names (Bosh/Amare/etc)

What teams fit that bill?

Too bad NY doesn't have their pick or we could swap Kwame for Jeffries and get a pick maybe.

Miami is a good idea, but I don't want another SG. Kwame for Chalmers/filler would interest me though.

Chicago could use another few million to make sure they have Bosh or Amare money. Wouldn't be a lotto pick, but could we do Kwame for Salmons and a pick?

OKC might be interested if they think they can land a big FA.

Do the Clippers feel they have a chance at any of those FAs? They are going to be 12-15 mil under. They could use another 4-5 mil in space. Would they do Kwame/Max and a future pick for Kamen? They'd be able to sign Amare or Bosh.

So you are assuming that Joe is willing/able to take on years/salary in exchange for Kwame's expiring deal?

I wish I was so confident.

So you are assuming that Joe is willing/able to take on years/salary in exchange for Kwame's expiring deal?

I wish I was so confident.

Depends on the years. I think a year or two yes. We're not going to have cap space next year anyway (barring a major trade). Why not swap Kwame for someone with 1 more year left after this and get a pick out of it? Or if there is a young asset on a team that wants to clear space you can go that route.

For example, Salmons only has 1 extra year. Why not pay his 5 mil next year to get the Bulls first rounder? You don't think Joe would do that?

Portland might be desperate for a big with Oden and Pryz out. Not sure what we could get from them for Kwame.

I'm not saying he "wouldn't" do that, I just don't think he'll be "allowed" to.

Why not? We're nowhere near tax level. The Pistons will be at or within a few million of the salary cap. If a current or new owner won't allow Joe to add 4 mil in salary to get a good asset then we might as well write them off until ownership changes. You can't expect Joe to win without being able to exceed the cap at all. And you won't get back to sell out crowds without bringing in some other assets.

I agree with chris. Not all teams are cut off from any financial moves just because the team is for sale.
The Hawks weren't allowed to make any moves that didn't involve 1-year contracts because of the ownership infighting that was going on. I'm sure some other teams have been told not to add salary or years because of a potential sale. Not every team that's been sold has had to deal with that though.
Anyone who's buying this team is going to want them to get back to selling out the Palace. Taking on some salary and improving the team is going to bring fill seats.

We're not talking about adding 3 year contract.

We're talking about dealing a small $4 million expiring contract in exchange for a similar sized contract with ONE extra season on it (in order to land a future first)

If we were taking about trading Kwame and Tayshaun for Gilbert Arenas I could see current ownership saying "No" due to the length of Arenas' contract (and the whole "she bangs, she bangs - click, click motherfucker" thing).

But say we (and Philly) wanted to do Rip and Kwame for Brand? That would be an iffy situation IMO due to the extra money Brand would make over the same length of time (compared to Rip)

I don't think Rip for Brand would be that iffy of a situation. Rip is an albatross contract. Brand is a bigger albatross contract. The difference being that Brand is a big man and the Pistons are a team sorely lacking a big man, while Rip is a swingman on a team overstocked with them.

I love having Rip and I'd rather see the Pistons somehow dump Gordon, but it's not happening and you take that chance on Brand. You could probably even get a pick out of it or swap Max for Kwame.

Rip + Max for Brand + 2nd?