FTW.

I bet Afflalo appreciates Joe for getting him the hell out of here (and Joe even did it without making Denver any worse!)

I'd actually say he made them better.

Yes, everyone here feels he's better than Dantay Jones, which is true. He's a more well rounded offensive player with the same level of defense. He can also guard some SF's, which Jones could not. He's been great for Denver. They could use another big man for depth, but otherwise it's a pretty solid team. Not sure if they can take the Lakers, but I give them a punchers chance.

The Enforcer Double A was/is:

A young guy that can shoot the 3

On a cheap rookie contract

Provides depth at SG and probably SF

Haven't heard/read anything bad about his attitude

Haven't heard/read anything bad about his work ethic

and we dealt him to clear more cap space (when we had $16+ million to begin with) in order to sign Chris Wilcox...

Why, oh why Joe?

Sure, with Rip, BG, Stuckey and others all capable of playing SG you probably don't need Afflalo but FCOL the kid as coming off a decent season. For the life of me I will never understand why he was traded.

With Big Ben, Maxiell, Nova and Kwame on the books, plus Jerebko "capable" of playing minutes at PF Joe and the rest of the braintrust decided that we just absolutely had to clear some more cap space to sign a big.

I wouldn't complain IF we got someone reasonable - but we signed Chris Wilcox! Teams weren't lining up to sign him. Maybe that's a sign the dude ain't all that good.

Afflalo? He might not be all that good either, but he's a more attractive asset for other teams in any trade situation. And rebuilding teams need to consider shit like that before giving such assets away for nothing (or next to nothing)

EDIT - my post was all jammed up like one long run on sentence. I hate that shit

Trouble is he couldn't shoot wide open 3s last year. Now he can. Kid always worked hard, good for him.

I'm not too mad about this really. How much PT would he really get when we're healthy? None. I can understand trading him to sign a big once BG was here. I don't understand the 2 year deal for Wilcox though.

i still can't believe we gave a capable good young roleplayer away, who would have been a very nice backup SG on a rookie salary...to replace him with a 58 million SG makes it even worse, if we can't finally move RIP

Simmons (on his podcast with JA Adande) said how good Afflalo was, and how stupid Dumars is for getting rid of him.

Apparently he played awesome defence against Kobe last time they played...

Too inconsistent for me to regret losing him. But I got nothing against him. I hope he keeps doing well.

I'm not too mad about this really. How much PT would he really get when we're healthy? None. I can understand trading him to sign a big once BG was here. I don't understand the 2 year deal for Wilcox though.

I'm a little made about it and not because he'd sit on the bench IF we were healthy.

I'm a little mad because we gave away a serviceable young player who was cheap in order to sign a piece of shit.

I don't understand trading him to clear cap space when we had $16+ mil in cap space from the fucking start! We knew we needed bigs. It's not like Joe woke up on July 1st and suddenly found out he had no real starting PF or C.

He knew that shit was coming all season long and did NOTHING.

Shit, on draft day we actually used all our picks on a position we already had filled. And we then compounded that mistake by using the majority of our cap space on a position that wasn't only filled, it was filled by a guy we just fucking extended!

This blows my mind, this shit. I just can't fathom how it could possibly make sense to anyone here or to anyone in the organisation and I certainly have no fucking idea how Joe processed that shit.

What the fuck was he thinking?

Arron Afflalo #6 SG
Birth Date October 15, 1985
Birth Place Los Angeles, CA
Height 6-5
Weight 215 lbs.
Age 24
Position SG
Experience 2 years
College UCLA
Salary 2010: $1,086,240


2009-10 Statistics
PPG 9.0
RPG 2.8
APG 1.7
SPG 0.7
BPG 0.4
FG% 0.478
FT% 0.729
3P% 0.447
MPG 26.7


Ben Gordon #7 SG
Birth Date April 4, 1983
Birth Place London, England
Height 6-3
Weight 200 lbs.
Age 26
Position SG
Experience 5 years
College Connecticut
Drafted 2004: 1st Rnd, 3rd by CHI
Salary 2010: $10,000,000

PPG 14.9
RPG 2.0
APG 2.5
SPG 0.7
BPG 0.1
FG% 0.418
FT% 0.842
3P% 0.304
MPG 29.2

I just threw up in my mouth.

Not only is Double A younger, cheaper and bigger but we ALREADY HAD HIM!

Why sign an undersized SG when you have Rip and Double A on the books but only Kwame Brown and Jason Maxiell signed at PF and C?

Shoulda signed David Lee for $10 million, you stupid motherfucker.

The team?

Ben Wallace, David Lee, Jonas Jerebko, Richard Hamilton, Rodney Stuckey with Kwame, Nova, Maxiell, Daye, Double A and Bynum off the bench!

Better or worse than what we got?

Not only is Double A younger, cheaper and bigger but we ALREADY HAD HIM!

Why sign an undersized SG when you have Rip and Double A on the books but only Kwame Brown and Jason Maxiell signed at PF and C?

Shoulda signed David Lee for $10 million, you stupid motherfucker.

The team?

Ben Wallace, David Lee, Jonas Jerebko, Richard Hamilton, Rodney Stuckey with Kwame, Nova, Maxiell, Daye, Double A and Bynum off the bench!

Better or worse than what we got?

trading Tay for Kaman before the season started

Kaman/Ben/Kwame
Lee/Villa/Max
Jerebko/Day/Summers
RIP/AA
Stuckey/Bynum

damn...

I never thought the Tayshaun for Kaman thing was legit.

IF it was and Joe didn't pull the trigger than Joey D is lucky I don't hop on a Qantas kangaroo and pull the fucking trigger on him.

IF you have the opportunity to land Chris Kaman you should take it, especially when you consider that decent bigs are extremely hard to come by

There were reports that Joe was trying the Tay/Kaman thing again at the deadline. I bet even the Clips LOL'd at him. A little too late for that, pal.

I've grown to like him quite a bit.

Guy hits big shots, and added a couple more last night, even though his team lost the game (totally NOT his fault!!!)

Also, this is not the thread to dump on Chris Wilcox, who is also great in his own way.

Dumars is a fucking dipshit

Dumars is a fucking dipshit

http://protectthepaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/draft_milicic.jpg

And at a time like this we needed a Darko sighting?

The only thing that would make it worse is if Budinger, Afflalo and Darko all had huge games within the week...

Didn't Budinger just have a great game? I thought I read that sumwhere?

AA playing solid D and knocking down threes tonight.

So solid.

Basically a likable Bruce Bowen? With more scoring ability.

Raja Bell is another nice comparison.

Chauncey/Affalo + Stuckey off the bench = more than solid, Dumars extended the wrong guy and traded the wrong guy

Joe Dumars is the wrong fucking guy, period