IF he's available for Tayshaun Prince and our 2010 Pick (top 3 protected) then I believe Joe has to make that trade.

If nothing else Gay would be a great asset this coming off-season.

So:

Prince/Summers/2010 Pick (top 3 protected) for

Rudy Gay/Steven Hunter/Lester Hudson

works under the cap

We be:

Big Ben, Maxiell, Gay, Rip, Stuckey, BG, Nova, Bynum, Jerebko,

They be:

Who they are

Thoughts?

Does it make the team better? Yes. But does it make the team a championship contender? No, and it takes away our 2 best assets.

Our 2010 pick could be in the lottery, top 5, top 10, we don't know yet. I know you top 3 protected it, but a top 4 players is an extremely valuable player. Also, Tayshauns expiring contract will be gold for a team next year. A huge contract with no baggage attached, Tayshaun can be a good team player for one year then have his contract expire. Do you really want to give that and a potential 4th overall pick for Rudy Gay, a guy that COULD be amazing but is most likely a poor mans Carmelo? It still doesn't address the big man problem, and we would be too good with Gay to get a top 3 pick in the 2011 draft. I can't go through another year of Maxiell and Wilcox getting any minutes at all.

Lottery protect the pick and switch in Hamilton, and I'm in.

Agreed. Gay isn't a championship player. No defense, all offense. This team needs a player like Battier, not Gay.

That deal never happens if you switch in Hamilton. It likely doesn't happen if you lottery protect the pick. That said, I wouldn't trade Tay and the #4 pick for Rudy Gay, so I would want more than top-3 protection. I'd do Tay and top-10 protected in a heartbeat but Memphis doesn't do that deal.

Why are they dealing Gay in this scenario, anyway?

Edit: After taking 10 to think about this, I'd probably do this deal as Tay and a top-3 protected. I wouldn't want to trade the #4 pick but what are the odds of us getting it? If we did the deal Pharaoh suggests, we'd have:

Stuckey/Bynum/Atkins
Rip/BG
Gay/Jerebko/Daye
CV/Max/Wilcox
Ben/Brown/Hunter

I don't know where the defense comes from, since Gay is like CV, he CAN be a good defender but he usually isn't, but I think that team can grab the 8 seed. In the very least, it would be picking in the 8-12 range, which I'd trade for Gay.

We'd still need to make a move for a big-man at some point, likely in the offseason since none of those assets are going to get us one unless we're trading Stuckey.

I am very much against this move.

Agreed. Gay isn't a championship player. No defense, all offense. This team needs a player like Battier, not Gay.
I wonder if Detroit will trade us Tayshaun Prince, I hear he is on the block.

Oh wait, MIND FUCK.

Ths team already has too many energy guys that can't score.

god why do we suck so bad???

We're a fantastic rebounding team and pretty good halfcourt defensive team that can't win games because other teams are scoring in transition far too often against us. We simply can not score efficiently enough to prevent that.

So the general feeling is that Rudy Gay - as an asset - is worth a lot less than Tayshaun Prince and a Top 3 protected 2010 pick?

Or should I put it another way:

If you were Joe Dumars and you wanted to trade for a quality big man which "package" would you rather have to offer:

Package 1 = Tayshaun Prince's expiring contract and a Rookie drafted in the Lottery

OR

Package 2 = Rudy Gay - a guy who will be a restricted free agent and he's putting up 20 ppg, 6 boards, 2 asts while shooting 46% and having a per of 18 as his team sits only 2.5 games out of 4th place in the West!!!

Can you imagine that! Holy shit! Memphis!

And IF we did actually get Gay for package 1 isn't it possible that our team, which is only 8 games out of 5th spot in the fucking East lol could possibly make the playoffs and make the pick not so fantastic for Memphis?

I'm not sure which is the more desireable package for other GM's, which is why I'm posting this lol

And IF we did actually get Gay for package 1 isn't it possible that our team, which is only 8 games out of 5th spot in the fucking East lol could possibly make the playoffs and make the pick not so fantastic for Memphis?
I'm pretty sure that's what I was saying:

I wouldn't want to trade the #4 pick but what are the odds of us getting it?

..........

I think that team can grab the 8 seed. In the very least, it would be picking in the 8-12 range

Lottery and Tay for Gay? No

No to gay. I don't want any faggots on the pistons

Lets just trade for Lebron....

I don't think he's available.

Out of curiosity, who would y'all rather have -- Stuckey, or Rudy Gay?

Mxy, apparently Gay is available - probably because the Grizz fear someone offering him the MAX this coming off-season.

And I'd rather have and then trade both later to get a real stud at C.

Said C + Nova + Rip + BG = goodness

Not sure who that C would be though - the board seems to hate all available big men

Z - Wasn't that entire post directed at those that don't wanna trade for Gay?

So Memphis already has three 1sts this year and they'd want a 4th? Doubt it.

Maybe two of their lower 1sts would be coming back to us?

I'd still offer RIP and our #1 for Gay. None of their picks will be even close to as good as ours. If they don't want that many rookies they can probably just trade a pick for a future one (and end up with a better pick). There is always a team targeting a guy that slipped wanting a pick.

The earlier you make this trade, the less valuable that pick is.

We win more games with Gay.

Gay is the key to winning games in the NBA.

A little bit of Gay goes a long way in the NBA.

If we go Gay now we might make the playoffs.

Mxy, apparently Gay is available - probably because the Grizz fear someone offering him the MAX this coming off-season.
I really doubt that Gay gets the max without some kind of S+T being forced.

The earlier you make this trade, the less valuable that pick is.

We win more games with Gay.

Gay is the key to winning games in the NBA.

A little bit of Gay goes a long way in the NBA.

If we go Gay now we might make the playoffs.
^Insensitive?

Gay is worth a prick.