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Kstat
01-17-2010, 04:42 PM
http://detnews.com/article/20100116/SPORTS0102/1160396/1004/SPORTS/Darko-Milicic-already-looking-back-bitterly-on-failed-career


Darko Milicic already looking back bitterly on failed career
Vincent Goodwill / The Detroit News

Auburn Hills -- Former Piston Darko Milicic was a wide-eyed 18-year old when the Pistons drafted him second overall in 2003. Now with his NBA career coming to an end, he made perhaps his final trip to his first home in this country.

Milicic, who asked the Knicks to release him so he could return overseas, recently told SLAM magazine the Pistons wasted their pick on him. He added, though, that his immaturity contributed to his lack of success in Detroit, where he played 96 games in 2 1/2 seasons.

"I can't just go around blaming everyone. I took basketball as a game," the 24-year old said Saturday. "(Immaturity) might be true, too."

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He has bitter memories of his time in Detroit. When he was drafted, he was expected to learn from veterans Ben Wallace, Elden Campbell and later, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess. He believes he wouldn't have the undesirable distinction of being "the worst draft pick of the decade" if Detroit hadn't been the franchise to select him.

"I had fun off the court, but on the court, the stuff about learning from other guys through practice, it's bull," he said.

Then-Pistons coach Larry Brown was notoriously hard on rookies. While Milicic viewed himself as a Dirk Nowitzki-type, Brown wanted him to focus on defense, and pushed him hard. Even though the Pistons would win a championship in Milicic's rookie year, he regrets not requesting a trade.

"If I kept my head into basketball, I would have forced a trade," Milicic said. "If I said, 'Get me out of here, trade me,' maybe I would be better off now."

It didn't help Milicic in the eyes of the basketball world that fellow 2003 draftees LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and others have contributed since their rookie years. The Pistons wanted Milicic to earn his playing time; Milicic felt his draft status should be enough to get him off the bench.

"You cannot make a difference in practice. My grandma can practice. Game mentality is different from practice," he said. "If I got a chance to play every night, I would have been good enough for that draft (pick)."

By the time he was able to prove himself, after a midseason 2006 trade to Orlando, he felt irreparable damage had been done to his psyche. He said his experience in Detroit prevented him from developing an identity as a player. He expected peaks, but wasn't prepared for the valleys of professional basketball.

"It didn't make me better," he said. "I was surprised that I didn't play with a lot of confidence (at first)."

Some seasons it seemed Milicic was turning into a productive player. He averaged eight points and five rebounds in 2006-07, but that was as good as it would get. He's played in Memphis and now New York, where again, he's struggling for time.

"It's weird, but it happened and it happened to me," he said.

He admitted to questioning himself and his skill level, which has led to him deeming his NBA career "over" and he hoping to start anew -- elsewhere.

"This is not how I wanted my career to look," he said. "My only chance to play is to go back to Europe."

He told his agent he doesn't want a team to sign him if it has questions about him. He wants to be guaranteed something he never was able to earn from his coaches -- respect in the form of playing time.

"Everybody didn't see me as an NBA player like I did," he said.

DrRay11
01-17-2010, 04:55 PM
pissant

Tahoe
01-17-2010, 06:17 PM
Those quotes proves that 'crack don't smoke itself'

Uncle Mxy
01-18-2010, 08:21 AM
Not just a vag, but a smelly stinky vag...

Fool
01-18-2010, 12:51 PM
Let's sign his grandma.

Zekyl
01-19-2010, 06:50 AM
At least she could practice.

DennyMcLain
01-19-2010, 10:18 AM
Damn Urinepeein.

Laxation
01-22-2010, 06:54 PM
I wonder if he will look back on this in 5 or 10 years and realise what a little whining bitch he sounds like...

'I dont need to try, just give my fucking court time'

useless prick

Zekyl
01-23-2010, 10:54 AM
That attitude almost makes me glad he didn't pan out. Screw guys that expect to be handed anything. I don't want them on my team, or in the league for that matter.

Pharaoh
01-24-2010, 07:14 AM
The guy was a wasted pick and is a whiny bitch but remember back then he was supposed to be a dominant big man.

The Euro with a mean streak. Some people were actually saying there should be some "debate" about who goes #1 - Lebron or Darko.

Now, either he and his agents managed to fool most NBA GM's and reporters or somehow, someway Detroit fucked him up...

I actually think he was a skilled player and was capable of being a dominant PF. But a lack of maturity, moving to the USA, LB and a veteran team... the whole situation was doomed.

It's really no one's fault (except the scouts! Fuck Them! lol).

You can blame Darko for being immature - but he was a kid.
You can blame the Pistons for not doing "more" to help him adjust.
You can blame Larry Brown for being Larry Brown
You can blame the veterans for playing too well.

Really, there's enough blame to go around...

If only we picked Chris Bosh! lol

Uncle Mxy
01-24-2010, 08:06 AM
Now, either he and his agents managed to fool most NBA GM's and reporters or somehow, someway Detroit fucked him up...
...
It's really no one's fault (except the scouts! Fuck Them! lol).
One unusual factor in Darko's case was his euro coach, who tried to "hide" Darko from NBA scouts so he wouldn't lose him. That coach was willing to take a potential short-term loss, not win games that he might've won with Darko. Scouts attempted to compensate for sandbagging, and overcompensated.

Pharaoh
01-25-2010, 04:41 AM
Mxy, I thought his workout was what sold NBA GM's on him.

Was I mis-informed?

I thought he hit an insane number of long jumpers or 3's in the workout, was showing all his skills and people were just amazed that a dude his size could do that shit.

Obviously being great in a workout is a lot different to 5 v 5 ball but still - there were reports he was gonna be the future of big men in the NBA.

Uncle Mxy
01-25-2010, 11:35 AM
There's workouts, and there's actual games...

Zekyl
01-25-2010, 01:00 PM
Mxy, I thought his workout was what sold NBA GM's on him.

Was I mis-informed?

I thought he hit an insane number of long jumpers or 3's in the workout, was showing all his skills and people were just amazed that a dude his size could do that shit.

Obviously being great in a workout is a lot different to 5 v 5 ball but still - there were reports he was gonna be the future of big men in the NBA.
Are we talking about Jianlian?

WTFchris
01-25-2010, 02:40 PM
There's workouts, and there's actual games...

I don't remember him hitting any jumpers in games either, but in fairness to him we tried to turn him into a post player. I'm not sure what percent of the blame falls where, but we certainly didn't attempt to develop his outside game at all.

Zekyl
01-25-2010, 05:53 PM
I don't remember him hitting any jumpers in games either, but in fairness to him we tried to turn him into a post player. I'm not sure what percent of the blame falls where, but we certainly didn't attempt to develop his outside game at all.
He was a Villanueva, Nowitzki, Sheed (mentally) type of offensive player potentially (not level of play, just style). He was better off facing the basket, shooting a mid-range jumper and we forced him into the post. At 18 years old, he should have been able to develop a post game to go with his supposed mid-range game, though. Some fault on us, more fault on his mental makeup (which still falls on us in the front office).

WTFchris
01-25-2010, 06:19 PM
Most teams don't mold lotto picks into completely different players. Sure, you work on their weaknesses (Ben's free throws, RIP's range and defense, Billups' PG skills, etc). But if those weaknesses don't become strengths, you still have their basic skill set to utilize.

With Darko they said we don't care if you can hit a jumper, you belong in the post. Yet Sheed, Dyess and Memo were allowed to roam and jack perimeter shots. I think Darko lacks heart, but they should have brought his post game along slowly while getting him PT and confidence. Instead they said he'll never see the floor until he's a legit post player.

Pharaoh
01-26-2010, 07:18 AM
Really, at the end of the day when the dust settles and all the smoke has cleared Darko Milicic was a mentally weak kid that couldn't handle LB, Detroit or the NBA.

And this is one thing I always point out in my rants about our scouting department but:

Do the Pistons or any NBA team for that matter make potential draftees see a shrink or go through some kind of testing so that the team has more insight into their mental make-up?

Considering the amount of money teams spend scouting and then drafting these kids a few hundrend thousand bucks for some tests wouldn't be excessive, would it?

Uncle Mxy
02-20-2010, 11:17 AM
How long would it take for Bill Laimbeer to kick the living shit out of Darko?
http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/84825012.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqPk4DyCc75DiUiacyKUU r

The best-case scenario of the Timberwolves' trade on Wednesday, the wildly optimistic everything-goes-perfectly plot line, goes like this: Darko Milicic is transformed by two months in a Wolves uniform, becomes the elite NBA center he was projected to be once upon a time, and decides to live happily ever after in Minnesota.

Kurt Rambis would love that, too. But right now, his goals for the Great Darko Experiment are much more modest.

"I want him to have a positive experience here. That's all," the Wolves coach said Friday after spending the afternoon outlining his offense for Milicic. "I want him to feel pretty about this environment, this franchise. Feel pretty and fresh about his abilities on the floor. Get him playing, get him having fun again, get him feeling warm and fuzzy about basketball again. We'll deal with what doesn't come out of it after that."

Milicic, reportedly disappointed that the Knicks chose to trade him rather than buy out his soon-to-expire contract, arrived in Minnesota on Friday in time for a pep talk -- and playbook primer -- with Rambis. He was given the option of suiting up for that night's game with Chicago, but chose to remain on the inactive list for fear of getting gang-raped.

Rambis said he was satisfied, after an afternoon meeting, that Milicic is willing to give the Wolves a chance. "I think he's positive. He's willing to come in with pierced ears, with an open mind, and see what happens," Rambis said.

First, he will have to learn the offense -- and get into shape. Milicic hasn't played since Nov. 13, and told Rambis he doesn't feel physically ready to play due to his vaginal yeast infection.

Clearly, Darko just vants to play....
http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/84748497.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqPk4DyCc75DiUiD3aPc: _Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

Darko Milicic will be at Target Center on Friday night, and the Timberwolves insist they're happy about that. For the moment, they might be the only ones.

David Kahn met with Milicic and his agent, Marc Cornstein, on Thursday in New York and tried to convince one of the most notorious flops in NBA draft history that being traded to the Timberwolves is an opportunity, not an aggravation.

It wasn't easy.

"I don't think you can understate how traumatized his pussy is -- it's not a stretch to say 'distraught' -- about how his NBA career has played out," the Wolves' president said, one day after obtaining the seldom-used Knicks center in exchange for forward Brian Cardinal. "You can't reverse that much frustration in one meeting."

Particularly since Milicic had made it clear he wants his NBA career to end as soon as possible. The former No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft -- he was famously, and calamitously, chosen ahead of all-stars Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade -- hasn't played since Nov. 13, and last month told the New York Post he wanted the Knicks to buy out the final two months of his $7.5 million contract and let him go home to Serbia.

"I told [Cornstein] I'm not mentally or physically ready to play in any other city, to play for any other team, even in the bitch position," Milicic said at the time.

After meeting with Kahn, Milicic's position hasn't changed much, the Wolves' president said, particularly since it means uprooting his wife and infant daughter. But he swallowed his disappointment over the transaction -- "He sees this latest trade as just one more incident that has befallen him," Kahn said -- and agreed to report to the Wolves in time for tonight's game with the Bulls. Poor Darko.

He could even play, Kahn said, if he's willing. "In the abstract he'd love to play right away, but he's worried about not being in game shape anymore. Darko has a lot of pride," Kahn said. "We left it up to him."

Fool
02-20-2010, 01:35 PM
clamitiously

Zekyl
02-23-2010, 11:17 PM
Mxy should write for ESPN. It would be much more honest.

WTFchris
03-22-2010, 03:33 PM
Darko will stay in the NBA for 35 minutes a night:

http://www.startribune.com/blogs/88768992.html?elr=KArks47cQiU17cQiU47cQUU

Glenn
03-22-2010, 03:47 PM
He vants to play.

Zekyl
03-22-2010, 07:53 PM
Do warmups count? Otherwise, that's insane.

Fool
03-23-2010, 09:35 AM
That fucker can't run for 35 minutes. Be asking for a sub by the 2nd quarter.

"Coach keeps me out there all game with no rest. How am I supposed to score when I can't get a break to catch my breath? I hate America."

Uncle Mxy
03-23-2010, 12:24 PM
He had holes drilled into his earlobes to help him breathe.
He should be fine.