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Timone 01-07-2010, 07:14 PM Well that was short lived. TMZ is reporting that there is a late night shakeup taking place at NBC. After the Olympics Jay Leno will be returning to his 11:30 time slot. The question still to be answered is if Jay’s show will be a half hour followed by Conan, or an hour and goodbye Conan. TMZ reports further that both comedians are aware of the changes.
Interestingly Conan has been on thin ice before with NBC. When O’Brien first appeared in 1993 with Late Night with Conan O’Brien, the show appeared with generally unfavorable reviews and dismal ratings. NBC was very close to canceling the show altogether but O’Brien bounced back. Let’s hope he can do the same.
lame shit
Vinny 01-07-2010, 08:15 PM Leno's a friggin robot.
Glenn 01-07-2010, 09:24 PM Leno's a friggin robot.
Affirmative.
Uncle Mxy 01-07-2010, 11:33 PM They're making money off of Leno, and starting to beat 10pm reruns. But the affiliates are pissed because their local 11pm news ratings are in the shitter.
I never could get into Conan O'Brien as a talk show host, or Leno for that matter. These days, Craig Ferguson and George Stroumboulopoulos are more my speed.
Tahoe 01-07-2010, 11:40 PM I think Conan is more funny, funnier, whatever, than Leno is these days. I just don't think most of the older crowd likes Conan's style/sense of humor. Leno carries a lil more something or other for the older folks.
Thats my explanation of the ratings if younger peeps and older peeps disagree on these 2.
Vinny 01-08-2010, 02:44 PM I think what you're trying to say is that Conan is "Ballin'" and Leno is "Dad Guy".
Uncle Mxy 01-08-2010, 04:13 PM Conan's been a talk show host for 16 years. His schtick involves being affably gawky and nerdy. He has Andy fucking Richter as a stoolie. He didn't become "the man" by beating the man. Before he became famous, he was in a relationship with a famously committed virgin.
Sorry, that's just not "Ballin'".
Glenn 01-12-2010, 03:32 PM I think what you're trying to say is that Conan is "Ballin'" and Leno is "Dad Guy".
Conan just "quit".
Glenn 01-12-2010, 03:38 PM http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont-do-tonight-show-following-leno/?emc=na
Tahoe 01-12-2010, 03:51 PM That letter he wrote was spot on, imo.
WTFchris 01-12-2010, 04:15 PM Conan's show is much better, but his monologue is not that good. He spends too much time dancing and doesn't have much content. He'll also say they have a great show about a dozen times (should only be said once at the end). Leno's new show was garbage. I still like headlines, but otherwise I don't bother with it at all.
WTFchris 01-12-2010, 04:22 PM Yeah, he's spot on. The comments at the bottom were interesting. One in particular talked about how Leno should fall on the sword and cut his show to a half hour like Jon Stewart and Colbert have on Comedy Central.
Uncle Mxy 01-12-2010, 04:47 PM Conan just did something "Ballin'" by not being a game show host.
My point is made. :)
geerussell 01-12-2010, 05:35 PM Conan is "dad type" and Leno is "granddad type"
MikeMyers 01-12-2010, 07:36 PM Conan's show is a lot more suited for the 12:30 timeslot. The problem with him is that he's had to tone it down and it loses its humor. His humor does not appeal to the 40+ crowd and from what I gather at work, a lot of the people that watch the tonight show are over 50. Jay Leno should have never of left or made a "retirement" date.
I will say that David Letterman used to be the best but now he is the worst. He's just turned into an angry old man.
Tahoe 01-12-2010, 09:25 PM ^ This cat know's his sht.
Vinny 01-14-2010, 12:07 AM The open mocking of his situation that Conan is doing is outstanding. Shocked NBC is letting it air.
RegicideGreg 01-14-2010, 12:22 AM NBC knows they screwed up and if they booted Conan right now they would look even worse.
Higherwarrior 01-14-2010, 02:48 AM leno was forced into 'retirement' in the first place because nbc didn't want conan to leave, so they gave him a nice new contract and set him up to have the tonight show.
this whole situation is ridiculous as leno is a genuinely nice guy and mildly amusing, but not near as good as conan. conan's sense of humor may not appeal to all but it definitely is better than leno's now lame act. conan is a better improv guy and much more clever and witty when interviewing guests, etc.
but no matter who you prefer, you surely have to see how fucked up nbc and leno have been in this whole situation.
Timone 01-14-2010, 11:28 AM The open mocking of his situation that Conan is doing is outstanding. Shocked NBC is letting it air.
I laugh my ass off every time he rips NBC.
Tahoe 01-14-2010, 12:10 PM The open mocking of his situation that Conan is doing is outstanding. Shocked NBC is letting it air.
NBC is/are ratings whores. They are prolly making big bucks off all of this. It'll prolly be short term, but I bet Conans ratings are through the roof right now.
Night after he wrote his letter was up like 30% or something.
Timone 01-14-2010, 12:48 PM NBC is/are ratings whores. They are prolly making big bucks off all of this. It'll prolly be short term, but I bet Conans ratings are through the roof right now.
Fox New's ratings are still better.
"The Factor" beats it all the time.
D's Nuts 01-14-2010, 01:20 PM Problem is that if half the people bitching about Conan and his situation actually watched his show, there wouldn't be a problem to begin with.
Glenn 01-14-2010, 01:28 PM It would be hilarious to find out that all of this was orchestrated.
Timone 01-14-2010, 01:33 PM It would be hilarious to find out that all of this was orchestrated.
Make it work, P.
WTFchris 01-14-2010, 02:10 PM Problem is that if half the people bitching about Conan and his situation actually watched his show, there wouldn't be a problem to begin with.
Did the Tonight show take a big hit though with Conan?
I read where NBC's 10:00 rating was cut in half going from normal dramas to Leno. I didn't see any numbers for Leno to Conan though.
D's Nuts 01-14-2010, 03:40 PM Yes, Conans numbers for his version of the Tonight Show are down vs. what Leno left him. That's why NBC brought back Jay to begin with, to try and spark up the ratings. Mission failure.
RegicideGreg 01-14-2010, 03:43 PM I thought they decided to bring in Leno at 10pm before Conan even took over.
WTFchris 01-14-2010, 03:45 PM I thought they decided to bring in Leno at 10pm before Conan even took over.
Correct. Leno already had his show planned and announced before Conan did his first tonight show.
Glenn 01-14-2010, 03:54 PM CONAN SAYS HE'S DONE WITH 'TONIGHT SHOW' NEXT WEEK: http://bit.ly/8LyVBB
Correct. Leno already had his show planned and announced before Conan did his first tonight show.
Yes, part of Conan's arguement is that Leno always had a prime time lineup to lead viewers into his show. Conan has Leno's show leading into his show.
WTFchris 01-14-2010, 04:20 PM I hope he does go to Fox and outdraw Leno.
Timone 01-14-2010, 05:18 PM Last show should be fun.
Timone 01-14-2010, 06:35 PM Izzo to LA?
Timone 01-14-2010, 10:14 PM Leno took a lil' shot there.
Timone 01-14-2010, 10:50 PM lol Kimmel is killing it (whatever that means) on Leno's 10@10 segment right now.
Timone 01-14-2010, 11:25 PM http://tv.gawker.com/5448615/jay-leno-turns-the-tables-bashes-conan-obrien-with-biting-monologue
I'm going to be sad when this is all over. This whole thing has been hilarious.
Timone 01-14-2010, 11:39 PM lol, Conan's first three jokes were STRAIGHT FIRE. I'm having a hard time keeping myself together.
Tahoe 01-14-2010, 11:44 PM I'm either watching or recording tonights show.
Timone 01-14-2010, 11:47 PM Tonight's monologue was brilliant.
Uncle Mxy 01-15-2010, 12:21 AM http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/clt/1551463643.html
Timone 01-15-2010, 12:28 AM Yep, no chance he makes it to next week.
RegicideGreg 01-15-2010, 01:53 AM Supposedly his last show will be next Friday. If he makes it that long, It'll be an epic show.
WTFchris 01-15-2010, 11:59 AM Last nights show was sweet all around. He had a lot of funny things to say with Rob Lowe too about getting pushed out the door.
DennyMcLain 01-15-2010, 02:02 PM I'm wondering if last night show was a sample to Fox, saying "look, this is what the show will be like on YOUR network".
This was just like his Late Night show, when the NBC brass didn't give a shit about middle aged midwest trailer trash and their ratings pull.
The porn titles were fucking brilliant.
MikeMyers 01-15-2010, 06:52 PM What I found interesting is that the top rated show at 11:35 is nightline. I hope Conan is back on the air by the summer. I will miss his show.
Higherwarrior 01-15-2010, 06:58 PM yeah anybody with a clue can see he's light years ahead of leno. leno isn't even a has been. he's a never was. he was always a guy who could make you chuckle at best. but he's so damn predictable and usually lame.
conan is off the wall funny, witty, and smart in his humor. and just plain funny.
nbc is retarded for this whole situation and they're pissing away the best young late night talent there is. FOX will snap him up, but that won't happen for a while. it could get a LOT uglier before the break becomes official and he is allowed to go to another network.
does nbc seriously think that pushing him out the door and putting leno in there like this is going to win them viewers? dumb network execs.
of all people, i can't believe this would happen to conan. he's a great comedic talent.
MikeMyers 01-15-2010, 07:29 PM I think the problem is that a lot of people over the age over 40, do not get Conan's humor. Most of his fans are under 40 and grew up watching him in college when we were up until 3 am every night and now that we have jobs, we are glad he's on at 11:30 so we can still catch some of the show. Although there is a huge backlash with other hosts, Jay Leno is very popular with 40+ age group and the bottom line is that he makes NBC more money.
RegicideGreg 01-15-2010, 08:40 PM uxcAAb60lik
Nice soothsaying by Stern
Higherwarrior 01-15-2010, 11:41 PM he is hilarious tonight, yet again. who gives a shit about the over 40 crowd. they weren't watching leno either which is why his ratings sucked too.
if they had any brains they'd see that the times are changing and a younger guy like conan can attract a whole new audience. fuck leno. fuck nbc.
conan is the shit. i don't know what i'll do before bed without conan on TV for the first time in 16 years. i might actually have to have sex with my wife. :o(
Timone 01-16-2010, 04:08 PM The shootout with NBC had me loling hard.
Uncle Mxy 01-16-2010, 05:38 PM http://pic1.raidpic.com/pM4hTmBUEE.jpg
WTFchris 01-19-2010, 10:56 AM Didn't watch it Friday or last night. Anything noteworthy?
D's Nuts 01-19-2010, 01:29 PM I watched Conan last night. I have my Tivo set up to record him all week.
Nothing super funny but he did take some pot shots at NBC.
"I was told that I am not allowed to say anything negative about NBC so I will sing it instead." He then sang a song called "Morons."
He has been trying to get Howard Stern to come out all week. Please let this happen.
WTFchris 01-19-2010, 02:03 PM He has been trying to get Howard Stern to come out all week. Please let this happen.
That would be great. They'd probably pull the plug the next day and move Leno right away.
D's Nuts 01-19-2010, 04:02 PM They wouldn't even let it broadcast. I bet NBC would rather have a blank screen instead of Howard and Conan trashing Leno/NBC.
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Tahoe 01-19-2010, 09:26 PM Holy shit, did you take these pics D?
DennyMcLain 01-19-2010, 09:38 PM I wish I had. Almost went, too. Universal is only a few miles from me.
Would've gotten free pizza!!!!
DennyMcLain 01-21-2010, 02:53 AM Welp... they allowed the Masturbating Bear here on the West Coast feed.
I'm sure all of the worthless Leno-loving ass pirates in Cincy and Cleveland are screaming "That's NOT FUNNY!!"
Right Zekyl?
Pharaoh 01-21-2010, 07:38 AM Have any of you heard of an Aussie guy named Rove McManus?
He had a late night show here and I believe less than 12 months ago was in the USA and went on Leno and had some talks with TV executives.
He comes home, does his show [starting at 9:30pm every Sunday night] all year long and at the "season finale" (that featured Sam Worthington utter the word "Fuck" live while describing how to ride a creature in Avatar) McManus announced it was the last show ever.
No notice, no pre-show hype - he just announced it. He told everyone to ring people, tweet people, facebook etc and tell everyone cause he's done.
Now, I bring him up simply because he MIGHT be an option for NBC to replace Leno. I don't know what to say about Rove - he's funny but I'm not a fan of his work.
I don't know how he'd play with US audiences, but I just thought you guys might wanna know about a possible Leno replacement
Glenn 01-21-2010, 08:16 AM Does Mr. Wick still have a late night show?
WTFchris 01-21-2010, 09:10 AM Welp... they allowed the Masturbating Bear here on the West Coast feed.
I'm sure all of the worthless Leno-loving ass pirates in Cincy and Cleveland are screaming "That's NOT FUNNY!!"
Right Zekyl?
Yeah, then he had some 1.5 million dollar car dressed up l like a bunny just to waste NBC's money he said.
This can't last past friday can it?
There are PLENTY of crotchedy old conservatives in your neighborhood too picture boy.
Fuck, Tahoe lives in your neighborhood.
DennyMcLain 01-21-2010, 01:38 PM There are PLENTY of crotchedy old conservatives in your neighborhood too picture boy.
Fuck, Tahoe lives in your neighborhood.
Tahoe will deny this.
Glenn 01-21-2010, 03:34 PM Looks like he got a sweet-ass deal.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/entertainment/tv_schedule/nbc-obrien-reach-tonight-exit-deal-jgr_3194533
DennyMcLain 01-21-2010, 08:33 PM With the deal sealed, the final two episodes have the potential to be no-holds-barred epic.
Tahoe 01-29-2010, 12:21 PM Those crazy Japanese...must have lots of unemployed animators or something.
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Timone 02-06-2014, 07:43 PM Good riddance.
Glenn 02-06-2014, 08:54 PM Never funny.
Watched Letterman the other night for first time in ages, he's still got the natural timing and genuine humor that none of these jagoffs will ever match. Still the king.
Timone 02-06-2014, 08:55 PM so dad guy
Glenn 02-06-2014, 08:58 PM so dad guy
You're totally right, but so am I.
Vinny 02-06-2014, 08:59 PM so dad guy
Yeah, love Letterman, hate Leno but....Kimmel and Fallon are hilarious.
CGGWU.
Timone 02-06-2014, 09:09 PM No 'senio love, huh? smh
The REAL king.
http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ArsenioHall1.jpg
Timone 02-06-2014, 09:11 PM SO EMOTIONAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG_jwyfusHY
Timone 02-06-2014, 09:13 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYGKmBjGcjY
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