Finally a local media hack gets to a story first. Wait, no, let's just use quotes from other media sources and save on the airfare.


Former Pistons forward Antonio McDyess slams last year's trade

BY VINCE ELLIS
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

DALLAS -- It looks like things have worked out for Antonio McDyess.

The former Pistons crowd favorite who left this past off-season to join the Spurs as a free agent has found a role on a team that looks poised to at least give the Lakers some competition for Western Conference supremacy.

But the veteran power forward is still thinking about the events that led him to leave the Pistons last summer.

In comments to the San Antonio media Tuesday, McDyess openly questioned last season's infamous trade of Chauncey Billups (McDyess' best friend) to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson, which effectively ended the Pistons' era of Eastern Conference dominance. He also didn't express much sympathy for the organization that took a nine-game losing streak into Tuesday night's game against the Mavericks.

"I think ever since they traded Chauncey away, everything just kind of went downhill from there," said McDyess, who will face the Pistons tonight. "It's like they broke up all chemistry, and I really didn't understand the whole logic of that trade.

"I guess they really was in a rebuilding stage, and it's showing now."

Pistons president Joe Dumars made the deal for cap space and felt the run was over. But McDyess saw a team that still could have contended if it hadn't been completely dismantled.

The team's direction was a major reason he ended a five-year stint with the Pistons by signing a three-year, $15-million deal with the Spurs.

"Detroit was my home and I felt comfortable there, but after I seen all the things down spiraling and I felt it was going to be no good this year, it was pretty easy to me after that," McDyess said.

He even thought aloud about what would have happened if the trade hadn't happened.

"I thought we would still be pretty good if you kind of think about it," McDyess said. "Ever since (Billups) left, then Rasheed (Wallace) ... everything was all messed up. It was pretty much a no-brainer after that."

But he did express some sympathy for his former teammates.

"It's sad to see those guys go through that because nobody wants to be on that end of losing nine games in a row," McDyess said. "Even when you get out on the court it just seems like everything is meaningless -- like you ain't even got no effort to play for anything because you so far behind. Once you got nine losses under your belt, it's kind of like, 'Hey, man, what I'm going to step out on this court for?' You kind of lose confidence."

Well yeah, it sucked for all our players, they were old, they didn't want to rebuild and lose friends.

I love Dice, but I've always thought that English might be his 2nd or 3rd language, and I think this confirms that.

He speaks Mississippi.

I don't have a problem with what he said.

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please consider the environment before replying

Recycling = Bullshit.

The environment = Bullshit.

This might be a bloodbath. So who is gonna destroy us? I can't decide between Parker or Blair, maybe both?

Is Pop the mastermind going to play around with some silly starting lineup? Has he benched/rested anyone tonight?

Max in at the 4, JJ out.

Kstat just creamed himself.

Max will play well, I think. <---irrelevant

anybody else notice Rip is running off screens again with Maxiell in there?

Our offense is running smoothly! Holy shit what a coincidence!

I don't see us winning in San Antonio, but at the very least this new lineup gives me some hope for the rest of the season.

Wilcox should be the next to lose his job. His defense and rebounding both suck ass.

I wondered who your next target was going to be.

nice that we're still scoring with them, but some Kwame would be appreciated. We might actually get a stop or two.

Wilcox should be the next to lose his job. His defense and rebounding both suck ass.

can't argue. Why he got more than a year is beyond me.

the next move to look out for is the return of Kwame in exchange for Wilcox.

Maybe they're showcasing Wilcox.

Why not? The season is a bust.

all they're showcasing is that the game turns into one big layup line with him at center.

Or they're showing that he can provide a bit of offense at the 4/5?

Let the dude play and see what we've got.

We know everything there is to know about Kwame's game.

It's not like playing Wilcox 15 minutes per night is the ONLY reason we're losing

Why would they need to show he can play offense at the 4/5? everybody in the NBA knows that already.

All they're showing is that his defense is still as terrible as it ever was.

And it's not the only reason we're losing, but its' the main one, over the last 2 games. The other team started getting layups every posession the second he checked in both times.

Cause people need to be constantly reminded that he's a cheap, effective option.

The guy has bounced around for a number of reasons - one of them being he can do something pretty well and is fairly cheap.

So play him - a lot. Hope someone dials Joe's number and offers us something worth having.

Cause otherwise we're stuck with him

He isnt exactly a cost liability. He's plays like a 12th man and gets paid like one.

He isnt exactly a cost liability. He's plays like a 12th man and gets paid like one.
Veteran 12th men should be playing for the vet's minimum. We have Ben Wallace and Chucky 1 year deals at just over $1m. We gave up Afflalo and $6m over 2 years for Wilcox.

This might be a watershed moment here. Kstat, will you go on record here today and admit that the Pistons gave up/paid too much for Wilcox? In other words, THEY MADE A MISTAKE. (gasp!)

What say you?

yes, they overpaid for him. By a million bucks. Wow.

Perhaps it isn't my place to say it but i was wondering if glan and kstat could just meet up and beat the shit out of each other. Every thread turns into a pissing match between the two of you.

I don't hit women.

Oooohyou gon dun it naw.:SHIT STORM!: :SHIT STORM!: :SHIT STORM!:

Perhaps it isn't my place to say it but i was wondering if glan and kstat could just meet up and beat the shit out of each other. Every thread turns into a pissing match between the two of you.
It certainly is your place to say that, and I wish I could promise that I' ll let him just blather on and on with his shameful homerism, but I'm not one to just stand by and wait for someone else to call him on it.

You are welcome to post more and maybe I'll get distracted by all of the excellent points that you'll be making.

Yeah, it's not odd that 2 of the top 4 volume posters in the nba threads end up countering points.

I find it hilarious - though a little worrying that GD has heat with a lot of people.

But fuck GD - that's his problem.

And for the record: Kstat once again used the term "woman" as an insult.

Are you single, K?

Got woman issues?

Call GD a cunt if you like (I don't hit cunts) but I think the whole "you're a woman" is weak as piss.

^womanly post

And don't be worried about me debating everyone, the reason that I like these discussions is the same reason that I was a part of creating WTF, I'm opinionated and passionate.

Too womanly?

As much as things seem rough at times, I'd much rather share a few beers with my "foes" than smash their faces, with few exceptions.

Don't be a bitch, GD. I simply find the insult "you're a woman" to be rather odd and lame.

You not say you're a cunt, a dickhead, a cocksmoker, a fudge packer?

I'm sure you've been called a lot worse things than "you're a woman".

And I'm sure you'd love to square off against Kstat inside the confines of a steel cage with Fool as the "special guest enforcer"

Shit - I'm sure some people here would pay to see that

No, I agree that the woman stuff is lame, but for me, it's actually moved beyond lame to humorous. Kind of that "so bad, it's good" type thing. It's a 4th grade insult, and it's interesting that it's the one that he always defaults to.

I'm sure a shrink would have a field day with that.

LMAO - I think the same.

So, Kstat - tell us about your mother...

Or your first sexual experience where 2 people were present.