View Full Version : Bulls/Pistons game thread- same shit different day
Kstat 12-31-2009, 03:32 PM -Jonas Jerebko at the 4 is a joke.
-Wilcox at the 5 is a bigger joke.
Stuckey damn near broke his ankle.
Nothing to see here, move along.
We're just going to continue to allow the other team to blow us up in the first quarter every game until someone realizes that Jerebko cant rebound or defend at the 4, and along with ben we start the worst offensive frontcourt in NBA history.
The only thing to look out for in this game is how long its going to take for somebody-anybody-to point out that our rebounding and defense turned to absolute garbage at the exact time we took Kwame and Maxiell out of the frontcourt rotation in favor or Wilcox and JJ.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 03:42 PM Audio if anyone needs it.
http://radio.securenetsystems.net//radio_player_large.cfm?stationCallSign=WJML
Not intended for use by any member of the Jerebko family.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 03:48 PM Looks Like Kuester has had enough. Kwame and Max are both in.
And wow what do you know, the Bulls are no longer getting offensive rebounds and layups.....
lead down to 4.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 03:54 PM just like that, we've come from 10 down to tie it.
Our defense looks %100 better.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:09 PM Rip is -15. No one else is worse than -8.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:10 PM Listening on the radio and folloing the box score. Is Gordon running the offense with Stuckey out, or is Rip?
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:11 PM Rip hasnt been shooting badly nor has he gotten burned defensively. Its mostly bad luck he was in there for Jonas and Wilcox getting killed and was pulled before Gordon cut the lead down a little. He's a -15 by association.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:12 PM Tayshaun has been running the offense.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:13 PM oof. Thanks.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:13 PM Pistons down 5 at halftime, but they will win this game as long as Wilcox and Jonas do not play the frontcourt again.
Maxiell should be out there to start the 2nd half. If it's Jonas, I'm going to be pissed. There's no point in starting him in the 3rd just because he started the game.
I'm not saying Jonas shouldn't play at all, mind you, but let him back up Tayshaun. He can rebound and score on SFs instead of being thrown around like a rag doll against PFs.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:33 PM Not happy with Jonas being out there at the 4 again. Maybe Chicago wont take too much advantage this time around.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:35 PM Jonas's man (gibson) is making a beeline for Rip Hamilton every time he touches the ball.
To his credit, Jonas has made him pay on the glass.
Hermy 12-31-2009, 04:36 PM Rip is killing us.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:37 PM ...and yep, Chicago is getting back to business of killing us in the paint.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:38 PM Rip is killing us.
Perhaps it would be easier for him to make shots if he didnt have to beat both his defender and Jonas's defender on every play.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:41 PM Jonas is back out of the game, but we're down 9 again.
I hope that 6 minutes of starting him wont wind up losing the game for us, but I think it might have. That was a carbon copy of the first quarter. You'd think the coaching staff would put 1 and 1 together and realize the current starting lineup is a terrible, terrible idea. It allows Chicago to send any big man they want to help out on Rip and Tayshaun.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:42 PM I might try listening to more games on the radio, it's somewhat less painful.
Although when you factor in Mahorn ...
Hermy 12-31-2009, 04:42 PM Perhaps it would be easier for him to make shots if he didnt have to beat both his defender and Jonas's defender on every play.
Well, perhaps he could make the layups and jumpers with no defenders and we'll call it a split.
Hermy 12-31-2009, 04:47 PM Rip is killing us.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:48 PM Rebounds
Noah 17
Pistons 22
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:49 PM If the Bulls didn't have 17 TOs, this would be even uglier.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:50 PM well, we're getting pummeled inside, so of course our answer is to sub in Wilcox at center.
I guess we learned absolutely nothing from the first half. We're doing the same exact shit we did to get down by this much in the first place.
Uncle Mxy 12-31-2009, 04:52 PM BG is currently 4th amongst Pistons in shot attempts for this game.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:53 PM CV31 is 7 for his last 42 FG attempts, per Mark Champion.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:55 PM Tay & Rip are 7/26.
How lovely.
Welcome back, boys!
Glenn 12-31-2009, 04:57 PM I think Noah might have vertigo the way he is throwing the ball away, but he's fighting off the Pistons almost alone on the boards.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 04:58 PM Wilcox still getting beaten for offensive rebounds. But let's all pretend not to notice.
Wilcox 3 second violation at the other end, because he's such a dominant force underneath the rim, he had to risk it.
Meanwhile, Max and Kwame, who by sheer coincidence were in the game during the only 6 minutes where we both rebounded and played defense, get DNPs for the quarter.
We have to get Wilcox time, though. That's what's killing this team, Ben Wallace's lack of offense.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:06 PM Gordon can rain in shots for the rest of the game and we'll still lose by 10+. We've made it clear that we're not interested in stopping the other team.
We've now compounded our misery by playing rip at the 3, ensuring that we weill be physically outmatched at every spot on the floor.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:09 PM Detroit Basketball: where we'll play undersized big men no matter how much they make it painfully obvious they can't do their jobs.
You know it has to be really, really bad for me to be missing Kwame Brown this much.
I'm just wondering how many we're going to lose before we pull the plug on this shit. 10 games? 15?
Are we just playing for ping pong balls? Is that why we're throwing out the worst possible defensive unit every game?
Glenn 12-31-2009, 05:12 PM How many fans will continue to buy tickets for this shit? This franchise is hitting rock bottom.
How's the crowd today?
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:13 PM I'm starting to wonder if we're not tanking.
It was beyond obvious in the 1st half what lineups worked and which ones didnt. And we spent the entire 2nd half using our worst lineups.
Kwame and Max, who actually played defense and rebounded, have not played AT ALL in the 2nd half. It's like they're being punished for good play.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:15 PM We're down 20 to a team that hasn't won a road game in 6 weeks.
So to recap:
We start the same failed lineup that's gotten crushed the last 2 games, get down by 10 points, we sub in Kwame and Maxiell, we come back to tie it, and we come out in the 2nd half, those 2 guys do not even sniff the floor, and we're now down 20.
Hermy 12-31-2009, 05:16 PM Decent crowd, not their fault they're quiet.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 05:16 PM Being embarrassed at home by a team and a coach that have been a national punchline for over a week.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:19 PM I'm beginning to think something fishy is going on. Nobody is this blind to shit that obviously isnt working.
Hermy 12-31-2009, 05:21 PM LOL! JJ comes back in to team with a hobbled CV.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:25 PM JJ with his 3rd offensive board.
Impressive until you figure in that he has zero defensive rebounds and didnt get his first rebound of any kind until the 3rd quarter.
Once again: Our starting power forward, who's only above average skill is rebounding, had ZERO rebounds in the first half. And we started him in the second half!
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:27 PM this mini-run won't last, because the fist bull that drives the lane with either score, get fouled, or both.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:27 PM ...yep.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:28 PM we hit a 3, and chicago once again gets right to the basket for another foul.
Unless we plan to trade 3 for 2 another 10 times down the floor, this is a failed strategy.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:31 PM Stuckey makes another shot to cut it to 10.
This qualifies for excitement at the Palace now, trailing by 10 to the Chciago Bulls with the game almost over.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:33 PM Our starting power forward just got his 1st defensive rebound with 1 minute left in the game.
MikeMyers 12-31-2009, 05:33 PM Predicting 5k people at most in a month
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:34 PM Someone should ask Kuester what positive things Jonas Jerebko is bringing to the starting PF spot, and play "funkytown" in the background while he searches his brain for an example.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:38 PM Rebounds:
Bulls-49
Pistons-33
keep in mind, we were once the top rebounding team in the NBA at one point this season. Then something magically changed. Hmm, wonder what that could have been....
Kstat 12-31-2009, 05:42 PM Someone should ask Kuester if he's trying to lose games with this rotation to prove some kind of point. It needs to be asked. It was blatantly obvious in this game that he was constantly putting us in a position to lose. Max and Kwame sparked the only run of the game and they were benched in the 2nd half. That shit doesnt happen by accident. Even Michael Curry's not that blind.
Someone should ask Kuester what positive things Jonas Jerebko is bringing to the starting PF spot, and play "funkytown" in the background while he searches his brain for an example.
And yet, he managed a better game than our glorious vets (I'm looking at you Prince and Rip) in 19 minutes of play.
Someone needs to ask Kuester how Gordon is not starting instead of Rip. It's so painfully obvious that Stuckey/Gordon are a much better combo due to BG's ability to actually make shots and stretch the D. One more night of the amazing stand around while Rip runs around for 20 seconds every possession is going to make me puke. Dude has had 1 foot out the door for a year+ now, and is clearly mailing it in.
Please put me out of my misery, Joe.
Rebounds:
Bulls-49
Pistons-33
keep in mind, we were once the top rebounding team in the NBA at one point this season. Then something magically changed. Hmm, wonder what that could have been....
Rip and Prince back starting? All of a sudden the great rebounding we were getting from the 3 looks decidedly mediocre at the 4, and our starting 2 and 3 wouldn't rebound if it hit them in the hands.
Glenn 12-31-2009, 06:16 PM Well, that's 11 losses in a row.
The Mavs and Spurs are up next, I believe, and on the road, too.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 06:20 PM And yet, he managed a better game than our glorious vets (I'm looking at you Prince and Rip) in 19 minutes of play.
Someone needs to ask Kuester how Gordon is not starting instead of Rip. It's so painfully obvious that Stuckey/Gordon are a much better combo due to BG's ability to actually make shots and stretch the D. One more night of the amazing stand around while Rip runs around for 20 seconds every possession is going to make me puke. Dude has had 1 foot out the door for a year+ now, and is clearly mailing it in.
Please put me out of my misery, Joe.
His stats look better than Rip's because his defender spent the entire game double-teaming rip.
And at least Rip played D. Jonas did nothing. All of his stats came in garbage time.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 06:21 PM Jonas Jerebko has 4 defensive rebounds combined in 3 starts at the 4.
That's roughly 80 minutes of gametime playing the PF position. 4 defensive rebounds.
His stats look better than Rip's because his defender spent the entire game double-teaming rip.
Yet Rip kept trying to hoist over the double instead of finging the open man despite the fact that his shot is clearly busted.
And at least Rip played D. Jonas did nothing. All of his stats came in garbage time.
Rip played D? I must have blinked during this so called D. He has been 2 steps slow on D since he came back, and we're paying for it on the scoreboard. Hell, even Kelser called him on it during the broadcast when he made no effort to put a hand up on Salmons.
It's not Jonas' fault the Pistons have guys here with a sense of entitlement. They could have eased Rip and Tay back into the lineup, keeping with the bigger lineup. Instead, They had to come back an instantly see 36mpg or a Pistons' rookie coach would be on blast for the 2nd year in a row.
Atticus771 12-31-2009, 09:55 PM I was there today, and it was truly a miserable experience. I can recall no other game that left me that disgusted, to be honest. There is no cohesion on either end of the floor. I don't see them winning a game until something drastic happens, to be honest.
Kstat 12-31-2009, 09:59 PM It's not Jonas' fault the Pistons have guys here with a sense of entitlement. They could have eased Rip and Tay back into the lineup, keeping with the bigger lineup. Instead, They had to come back an instantly see 36mpg or a Pistons' rookie coach would be on blast for the 2nd year in a row.
It IS his fault that he has no skills that compliment the other 4 people in the lineup.
Pharaoh 12-31-2009, 11:42 PM The thing that boggles my mind is that our bench is or could be fucking amazing.
Imagine a healthy Bynum teaming with Gordon, Jerebko, Maxiell and Kwame off the bench! That would be awesome.
And I think a starting line-up with Big Ben at the 5, a healthy Nova at the 4 and Stuckey at the 2 spot would be pretty good too.
All we gotta do is trade Tay and Rip for a SF and a PG and we'll be sweet lol
Uncle Mxy 01-01-2010, 08:02 AM Well, that's 11 losses in a row.
The Mavs and Spurs are up next, I believe, and on the road, too.
The Globetrotters are in the Palace tomorrow.
We'd probably be better off on the road.
<sigh>
Glenn 01-01-2010, 08:23 AM We could be their Washington Generals. It would be interesting to see who the crowd would pull for.
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