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Cross
12-07-2009, 02:41 PM
Detroit Trades: rip, 2nd rounder

minnesota trades: Sessions, 2010 first rounder, and brian cardinal

why detroit? A pass first pg who can create, allowing a sessions/bg/stuckey trio if needed. They get a first rounder and massive cap space when BC expires.

Minny does it in order to create some scoring for their wing position. Flynn and sessions can not co exist. Now add in Rubio and they have a great surplus of young talented pgs. A flynn/rip/brewer/love/jefferson starting 5 should easily get them more wins.

WTFchris
12-07-2009, 04:11 PM
Can't imagine Minny would give up a top 5 pick though.

Pharaoh
12-10-2009, 10:29 PM
How about changing the pick to Rubio's rights?

Ain't no way anyone is offering a player of Rip's calibre for the rookie's rights.

Or we can do a Blount/Cardinal/Rubio's rights for Rip, that way we don't bring in Sessions to fuck with the Stuckey/BG/Bynum trio

WTFchris
12-11-2009, 12:19 AM
Rubio is a pure PG that would fit in very well here with the score first guards we have on our roster now.

Fool
12-11-2009, 12:28 AM
Isn't he not coming over because he doesn't want to be in Minnesota? You think he changes his mind for Detroit ... ?

Pharaoh
12-11-2009, 08:02 AM
Maybe, depends on the calibre of team we have when his new contract runs out in Euro-ville.

I'm not really worried about the kid though - he's just an asset to acquire.

IF we wanna make trades that bring in assets and/or clear space you'd be hard pressed to find one better than this.

Minny could start Love, Jefferson, Brewer, Rip and Flynn and still have their 2010 pick plus whatever else they have (Gomes + what?)

We clear cap space and Rubio's rights might be a nice chip to throw at a team in a trade scenario (or sign and trade = hello Chris Bosh).

Or maybe we deal him for a top pick in the 2010 Draft? Is Rubio worth the #2 pick in 2010? Is he worth a Top 5 in 2010?

What teams would he be interested in?

New York was apparently hot for him. With cap space and his rights to deal we could land David Lee ...

The possibilities of landing a quality player using Rubio + cap space are more than the possibilities of landing said quality player by dealing Rip IMO

Fool
12-11-2009, 11:42 AM
Should we just trade all of the original core for cap space?

mercury
12-11-2009, 02:55 PM
Don't see this as realistic for Minny... you'd like to think that they're working on a core for 2-3 years down the road.... they ain't going anywhere for the next two years of Rip's career.
With all the deals they've turned down for Rubio... ya gotta believe they can get another young stud for him if they wanted.

DE
12-11-2009, 03:00 PM
Isn't he not coming over because he doesn't want to be in Minnesota? You think he changes his mind for Detroit ... ?

I think a big part of it was that he wasn't guaranteed to be the guy in Minny and Barça and Madrid both were willing to hand him the keys and offer him big money.

MoTown
12-11-2009, 03:20 PM
^Yup. He was mad he was one of three PGs drafted in the first round for Minny.

MoTown
12-11-2009, 03:22 PM
However (and trust me I suck at scouting and deciding if a player could play at the next level) Rubio doesn't impress me at all. I'm not sure how he has been pegged as the next big thing. The guy doesn't look athletic enough to play in the NBA.

Pharaoh
12-13-2009, 08:51 AM
However (and trust me I suck at scouting and deciding if a player could play at the next level) Rubio doesn't impress me at all. I'm not sure how he has been pegged as the next big thing. The guy doesn't look athletic enough to play in the NBA.

From the clips I've seen I agree.

It's one thing to have "Steve Nash vision" but if you don't have the speed and the jumpshot then teams will learn how to defend you.

And Fool, No - we shouldn't trade all of our original core for cap space. I would like us to somehow acquire a big man to team with Nova and Gordon for the next "title chase" though.

If you can post a deal where we land a starting PF/C without giving up Tay or Rip I'd be thankful...

Bynum and Kwame for Gortat lol - nevermind