Kuester is out of control today:

C: Wallace
PF: Maxiell
SF: Jerebko
SG: Stuckey
PG: Atkins

Hilarious. It's working pretty well, too.

This is awesome. We're playing volleyball out there. 2 and 3 rebounds per posession.

The Hawks are shooting really, really well. And we're still winning.

Pistons lead after 1 quarter.

We have 7 offensive rebounds.

The Hawks have 6 rebounds total.

Our rebounding onslaught is beginning to take effect on Atlanta....

I think its our low-post scoring onslaught.

Stuck is playing great as a 2. They're having to adjust to him and it's opening up the floor.

Some really bad calls letting Atlanta back in this game. Kuester doesnt get technicals very often.

First the travel and the offensive foul on stuck was also bullshit. Josh Smith was about to get burned again and flopped.

If thats an offensive foul, LeBron would foul out of every game by halftime.

WOW- that was an impressive half of basketball.

55-47 Pistons after a buzzer beating 3 by Crawford.

Charlie V with one of the most spectacular end-to-end plays I've ever seen. An Amazing block followed by a crazy 3-pointer.

Stuckey has 17 points and 6 assists on 7 of 12 shooting playing exclusively at the 2.

I said this to my family over Thanksgiving, but I almost enjoy watching this team, who even though they're not as talented, play hard and compete every night more than watching the championship level Pistons teams who only intermittently gave a crap. The "If it ain't rough, it ain't right" attitude drove me crazy.

29-11 rebounding advantage on the glass. That's ridiculous.


We have 14 offensive rebounds. Atlanta has 11 total.

Stuckey has turned Joe Johnson inside out. 17 and 6.

I'm gonna be ballsy. The pistons are going to lose this game.

I can't see Stuckey staying this good in the second half, although he definitely looks way better at the 2.

Also can't see the bigs staying this energetic and active either.

Not really. Nobody here enjoys watching the Pistons lose more than you. That's not being ballsy, it's wishful thinking on your part.

Now sit by and be silent while the rest of us enjoy this fantastic effort.

Stuckey has 17 points and 6 assists on 7 of 12 shooting playing exclusively at the 2.

I said this to my family over Thanksgiving, but I almost enjoy watching this team, who even though they're not as talented, play hard and compete every night more than watching the championship level Pistons teams who only intermittently gave a crap. The "If it ain't rough, it ain't right" attitude drove me crazy.

Great point...and true.

try as they might, Atlanta just can't figure us out on the glass.

Not really. Nobody here enjoys watching the Pistons lose more than you. That's not being ballsy, it's wishful thinking on your part.

Now sit by and be silent while the rest of us enjoy this fantastic effort.

yep. you are definitely a bitch.

Pistons holding on after 3 quarters, but right now their bench needs some more offensive punch.

Oh boy- That's a broken nose for Charlie V.

What else can go wrong this season?

CV just broke his nose.

damn. injuries are a bitch this year.

On a positive note, his nose might just be really scratched.

nice job on the FTs.

Pistons back up 8!

Stuck and Bynum have been great together.

We still have more ofrfensive rebounds than they do total rebounds. Zounds!

Big Ben Badass at our service...

Ben hasnt had a game this good in a long time.

12 point lead!

48-21 rebounding advantage

This one has a little bit of something for everyone.

i dunno when both of your eyes start swelling up instantly like CVs were doing the free throws it means that shit is broken.


on another bright note, bynum looks like he loosened up that ankle and the pistons are going to win this game right now.

And starting Atkins is a hilarious/cock move by Q. It's like a big middle finger to the fans, just to see if they are paying attention.

one more basket probably ends this.

And starting Atkins is a hilarious/cock move by Q. It's like a big middle finger to the fans, just to see if they are paying attention.

no remember bynum is awesome off the bench, therefore you play him less.

this was a really fun afternoon.

Nice to see a great effort finally rewarded with a win.

You believed in this team and they have delivered a 6th win to the Motor City!!

Nice to see a great effort finally rewarded with a win.

My thoughts exactly. They deserved a win today.

Helluva lot better than watching the Lions.

great game, as long as the effort is like this the most nights i am fine, you can't win every game with so many injured guys, but today it was a whole team effort, Pistons basketball, that was missing last season...good to know its back...btw we need to clone Big Ben somehow, its freaking unbelievable how he plays

i dunno when both of your eyes start swelling up instantly like CVs were doing the free throws it means that shit is broken.


You are correct. Charlie's nose is broken, surgery tomorrow, and the mask is on order per CV's twitter account.

And starting Atkins is a hilarious/cock move by Q. It's like a big middle finger to the fans, just to see if they are paying attention.

no remember bynum is awesome off the bench, therefore you play him less

No, Koolaid - you play him in the role that has brought him success in the NBA, that has lifted his team and provided that much needed spark.

But you have no idea what that's about.

Actually, you have no idea period.

No, Koolaid - you play him in the role that has brought him success in the NBA, that has lifted his team and provided that much needed spark.

But you have no idea what that's about.

Actually, you have no idea period.

lmao. that's straight up buffoonery. i would sig that shit, but you didn't cuss in it.

lmao. that's straight up buffoonery. i would sig that shit, but you didn't cuss in it.

Yes, our Coach often enjoys buffoonery.

Hell, since we have been missing both Rip and Gordon he's started rookie beanpole Austin Daye and "Haven't started in 2 years" Chucky Atkins.

Will Bynum deserves his shot damn it, Coach.

I don't think Q is a buffoon at all, but he's either been told to try and "hide" Bynum to keep his value down, or, more likely, he's decided to (or been told to) try other safe, "non threatening" options to protect Stuckey from feeling insecure about his role. Another possibility is that it's an effort to keep Stuckey's value high. But I think one of the few things about Stuckey that we can all agree on is that he is playing much better off the ball. It will be interesting to see how long they keep playing this charade to keep the best playmaker on the team from starting, or at least getting the minutes he's earned.

...or just maybe he just wanted to do the right thing and start Atkins, who is probably the only guard on the team that doesnt look for his own shot first.

Not to mention, Atkins is probably the best 3-point shooting guard on the active roster. It spaces the floor out better for Stuckey.

The idea that there's some conspiracy theory behind Bynum not starting is absurd. Yes, there are forces keeping him on the bench. They're called his game. He is not a starting PG.

Best playmaker on the team...that's rich.

Glenn, do you subscribe to New World Order theories?

Maybe they just want Bynum off the bench so he can save the fucking day every game?

I'm pretty sure everyone knows Bynum is pretty good. Allowing him to come off the bench in his current role just highlights his strengths while hiding his weaknesses.

Stuckey? He's being exposed every night as a non-PG. So every single night they start him at that position more and more people see the mistake the franchise is making.

And now that we'll be spending millions and millions of dollars on 2 starting calibre SG's it's a bit of problem that we have a pretty good one here and he's on a rookie deal.

Best playmaker on the team...that's rich.

Okay, enlighten us, as usual.

I'd say it's Rip.

It's close between the two, but I have to laugh when K makes the assertion seem like an OUTRAGE.

the assertion isnt an outrage. You have to take something seriously before you consider it an outrage.

It's a flat-out joke.

Hey, great to be here...here's one for ya, Wil Bynum leads our team in Asst. and FG% among qualified guards (HIGHHAT). WAKA WAKA!

Thanks, I'll be at the Laugh Factory all week!

Yes, it's a joke to lead the team in assists per 36 night after night (while also being depending on for scoring).

Who's the joke?

Anyways, fuck this bozo.

Does anyone have a better outlook at work today after this game than Langlois?

Instead of trying to put a positive spin about an 8 game losing streak in his mailbag, he gets to say "it looks like they got it corrected on Sunday" to almost any question.

Big win for Keith.

I think Keith is fine either way. It isn't really his job to make people like the Pistons, just put a positive spin on the pieces he writes. This year he has lots of positive things to write about, win or lose.

You don't think he wakes up after an 8 gamer and says in a whiny voice: "What can we get for Rip?" "Stuckey isn't a point guard" ahhhh FUCK MY LIFE!!!

Nah, he get paid. I'm sure he was more sick of answering the same questions for 4 years.

Maybe I just miss Evil Keith/Swami.

:emo kid:

Yes, it's a joke to lead the team in assists per 36 night after night (while also being depending on for scoring).

Who's the joke?

Just because a person "leads" the team in assists per 36 doesn't mean he's necessarily good at creating shots for others or that he isn't a shoot-first guard like bynum is.

In 01/02 stackhouse led the pistons with 5.4 assists per 36. Will bynum is averaging 5.5 this year.

Stats can be spun in many different ways. Maybe bynum's per 36 really just means that when he's in the game he dominates the ball too much and passes when he can't find a shot for himself when attacking the basket?

You don't think he wakes up after an 8 gamer and says in a whiny voice: "What can we get for Rip?" "Stuckey isn't a point guard" ahhhh FUCK MY LIFE!!!

lol at the first question out of the box...


Odeh (Dearborn Heights, Mich.): I believe the Atlanta game made a strong case for Stuckey being better suited as a shooting guard. I understand he is more of a combo guard, but his assists were up and he created more for others when he was second to touch the ball. Does this make Rip expendable for a point guard?

Langlois: If Joe Dumars entertained any thoughts about trading Rip Hamilton, my hunch is it would be for a big man – or, in a Billups-Iverson scenario, for an expiring contract that would enable him to target a big man in free agency. As for Stuckey, he’s a guard. I continue to maintain that teams that have elite playmakers – Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, et al – are best served by keeping the ball in the hands of one player to start every possession. That leaves a whole lot of other teams who spread that responsibility over several players and, for what they might give up in continuity, perhaps they gain back in versatility. Stuckey is going to play off the ball a good deal of the time, at least as long as Will Bynum is in the mix.

Had to listen to this game rather than watch it. Waiting for the Bmac highlights.

"Body did a great job in that," said Jerebko, referring to Wallace.
"I'm just trying to do what he does -- get in there and get a hand on all the rebounds."


Still using Sheed nicknames.

Breakdown of every Stuckey drive to the basket during the game.
http://detroitpistonsforum.com/forums/detroit-pistons-forum/303-11-29-atl-vs-suck-game-thread-6.html

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