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Glenn
11-16-2009, 10:07 AM
Hi

Fool
11-16-2009, 10:39 AM
Return to reality week.

Kstat
11-16-2009, 11:47 AM
I can see us beating Utah, not the other 3.

If we had Rip, things might have been different.

BTW his foot better be falling the fuck off for him to be missing a month for a sprained ankle.

Glenn
11-16-2009, 11:49 AM
The Lakers lost last night, so, of course, there are a bunch of stories today about how beat up Kobe is.

Who is going to guard him, Stuckey? Jerebko?

Kstat
11-16-2009, 11:50 AM
gotta be stuckey.

Glenn
11-16-2009, 11:50 AM
It sounds funny, but the Laker game might be the best shot of the 4 games to get a win.

Kstat
11-16-2009, 11:52 AM
the way Utah is playing, I see that game as the best shot.

Fool
11-16-2009, 11:54 AM
Utah is playing terrible but even when they are playing terrible and we are at the top of our game they beat us.

Kobe left last night, in a close game, before the game ended and didn't return I believe.

Kstat
11-16-2009, 11:57 AM
aggravated groin injury. Might force him to sit out a game rather than risk a tear.

Glenn
11-16-2009, 12:00 PM
It will certainly help that there will be two off days before that game (Utah), even if one of them is a travel day.

I hate these kinds of "trends" especially with as much turnover that this team has had, but we certainly don't seem to play very well vs. Utah.

They have a good/deep front line, and most likely Deron will be back by then.

I think their record might be a bit deceiving. 4 of their 6 losses came at Denver, at Dallas, at Boston and at Cleveland.

Cross
11-16-2009, 02:19 PM
I hope d-will doesn;t play against us..doubtful though...he had some family reasons or something.

but if im not mistaken..we haven't beat utah in the regular season since 2004-05...

I say we beat the Jazz though..they are really struggling...

you should add all the above glan :)

Glenn
11-16-2009, 02:21 PM
If you think we'll win them all, just vote for them all.

Cross
11-16-2009, 02:22 PM
I didn't know...but we are last in the division at the moment..

Timone
11-16-2009, 02:24 PM
I think they'll all be relatively close at the very least. That counts for something, right?

MoTown
11-16-2009, 09:19 PM
Hold on one second. It's everyone's assumption that the best chance the Pistons have of winning a game on this trip is against UTAH??? Seriously? Have you guys forgotten that easily?

I say they win one, but that's a guaranteed loss.

Fool
11-16-2009, 09:20 PM
Utah is playing terrible but even when they are playing terrible and we are at the top of our game they beat us.

Kobe left last night, in a close game, before the game ended and didn't return I believe.

MoTown
11-16-2009, 10:05 PM
Okay, everyone but Fool has lost their minds.

Black Dynamite
11-16-2009, 10:09 PM
thought Rip was coming back for the LA game?

Glenn
11-16-2009, 10:33 PM
Okay, everyone but Fool has lost their minds.
Fool, Glan, TBeau

Kstat
11-16-2009, 10:33 PM
he isnt even traveling with the team.

Pharaoh
11-17-2009, 06:34 AM
Right now results are secondary for me.

I just wanna see a team play with some heart, energy and pride.

And we do!

Thank God!

Glenn
11-17-2009, 07:06 AM
LUKE WALTON OUT TONIGHT

Glenn
11-17-2009, 07:08 AM
Right now results are secondary for me.

I just wanna see a team play with some heart, energy and pride.

And we do!

Thank God!

WHO CARES ABOUT WINS? AT LEAST CURRY IS GONE!!

I actually quite enjoy how the team is playing and the coaching so far, btw.

Pharaoh
11-17-2009, 07:19 AM
Not worried about who the Coach is, what pick we get in 2010, what playoff seed we get, who we play next week...

Just hoping that the effort I saw v Dallas is evident during most of the games these guys play.

I thought many wanted a team that worked their asses off, win or lose?

Glenn
11-17-2009, 07:59 AM
Despite finding the sudden and strategic Curry scapegoating by the organizational mouthpiece extremely amusing, I'm actually with you, P. White text alert on my last post.

Uncle Mxy
11-17-2009, 08:55 AM
As we start playing better and build up more pieces to the puzzle, I want to see us destroy these teams. I want Kobe to start visualizing and smelling Shaq's undies at the prospect of playing us. We should benchmark the Canadian healthcare system by sending Steve Nash's defenseless remains back to them. Utah's epic 100-point loss to us should prompt Jerry Sloan's retirement. Hell, I want Paul Allen to remame the Rose Garden to the Pistons Cathedral in our honor. All these fucking teams should start looking like the Washington Generals to our finely honed engine of destruction.

But for now, I'll settle for hard work, good development, and competitive games. :)

Glenn
11-17-2009, 04:23 PM
CHAT (http://bit.ly/rJN6Z)

Glenn
11-17-2009, 05:40 PM
Just read some comments from a fanboy lamenting that we won't have Deron Washington of Afflalo tonight to guard Kobe, lol.

WTFchris
11-17-2009, 06:44 PM
If ABC/ESPN/TNT would decide to show a damn game I would let you know.

Joe Asberry
11-17-2009, 07:01 PM
it could get ugly pretty quick, i think one win would be OK, anymore is a plus

Kstat
11-17-2009, 10:51 PM
Stuckey played some outstanding D on Kobe.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 10:52 PM
Jonas needs to be smarter than that if he wants to start. He just took a much-needed basket away from us.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 10:58 PM
is it wrong of me to hope kwame fouls out as quickly as possible?

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:08 PM
we cant be playing 3 on 5 on offense and beat LA. Someone has to fucking score at the 3 or 5 spots.

Eventually, every team starts to send all 5 defenders at 3 guys, and we're forced to watch Kwame or Jerebko fumble the fucking ball away wide open.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:18 PM
we're not going to win this game until a non-guard besides V starts putting the ball in the basket.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:27 PM
You'd have to be blind not to see how much Kwame hurts us out there, on both ends.

scared on offense, lazy getting back on defense.

Kobe got his own miss twice under the basket while Kwame was still getting back.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:32 PM
same shit every time down the floor.

LA completely ignores Jerebko on defense and traps whichever piston is handling the ball. Whatever guard winds up taking the shot has 2 defenders in his face at all times.

This shit has to change. Its going to be harder and harder for this team to consistently out-work teams if theyre going to struggle to put points on the board like this.

Glenn
11-17-2009, 11:33 PM
Get Rodney Chuckey the fuck out of there.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:34 PM
He;s the only guy on the team thats been able to guard kobe, but yeah lets overlook that.

Glenn
11-17-2009, 11:37 PM
You are watching the game, right? Nobody is guarding Kobe, he's got 21 already, lol.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:37 PM
To be clear, Stuckey is having his worst game of the year offensively, but without him Kobe has 40 by now and we're down by 30, so its a moot point.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:38 PM
You are watching the game, right? Nobody is guarding Kobe, he's got 21 already, lol.

He was 1/7 with 2 turnovers when stuckey left the game. If you didnt notice him that, you're either blind or just stupid. Probably the latter.

Kstat
11-17-2009, 11:40 PM
Well, this game went downhill fast.

I'm not sure what more Kuester can do, but our offensive ineptness is starting to kill our defense. Teams are suffocating our guards and turning that into fast break baskets.

Tahoe
11-17-2009, 11:54 PM
ever the optimist.... we will make a run.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:04 AM
Nice 3 Jonas. Try shooting another one if theyre going to ignore you like that.

If we can force LA to play honest defense, we can make a run.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:09 AM
well, now the referees are abusing us, too...

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:11 AM
yikes

Hope we can come back and only lose by 11 or so.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:14 AM
something needs to be done to help the guards out. This is absurd.

Will Bynum should not be facing four defenders every time he touches the ball.

If we cant make a trade, then just switch up the rotation. Go smaller off the bench with Max at center and Summers at PF if you have to.

Get someone in the frontcourt that can fucking score besides V. Unless you want this team to be mentally drained by january, change SOMETHING to take the triple-teams off of the guards.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:34 AM
Well, the 25 point lead has been chopped to 15 in only 4 minutes...

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:37 AM
Trying to claw their way back. I love it.

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:39 AM
Get that shit outta here, Sparty!!!

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:40 AM
I hope one of them takes a swing at Maxiell. I really do.

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:40 AM
Fuck Kobe for being so good.

And is Maxiell showing some 'tude? I like it.

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:43 AM
That's pretty Bad Boy.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:49 AM
At what point do we stop treating it like garbage time? we're only down 12.

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:53 AM
Wow, dude.

With 2 FTs here, it becomes a 2 possession game.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:53 AM
ok, this is amusing as fuck.

we're actually back in this game, for a moment.

Timone
11-18-2009, 12:54 AM
That's lame. Right call, though.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:55 AM
brutal fuckup by Summers. That should end it.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 12:58 AM
Liked that we actually got some contributions from some frontcourt guys in the 4th.

It wouldnt kill them to try summers in the rotation next game.

metr0man
11-18-2009, 01:02 AM
Another game where we fought till the bitter end. That kind of determination makes it continually hard to be too bummed out about these losses. But sooner or later we gotta start winning some of these 'never say die' games.

Pharaoh
11-18-2009, 02:19 AM
You could only be pissed if you thought we had a chance.

Bynum + Kobe = greater than anything we have.

And trust Glenn to blame it all on Stuckey. Transparent motherfucker.

Oh, and Bynum got huge (dare I say starter's) minutes. He might have played well, but he plays well off the bench too.

Glenn
11-18-2009, 05:35 AM
I could only make it for the first half, but most of it was frustrating to watch, but the effort was there so u'm good with that. Can't get too upset when you have the effort and you just lose to a clearly better team. And no, it was not "all Stuckey's fault", nice try, though. My gripe with him was that he wasn't even looking at his teammates. He was playing 1 on 5 out there. The movement was completely stopping when he touched the ball. He was taking horrible jumpers and most of them were way off the mark. I don't know if that was all influenced by his injury or nerves or what, but it sucked. Definitely not all his fault we lost, though.

Pharaoh
11-18-2009, 06:49 AM
Good to see Bynum did well, again.

It's nice having 3 guards that on any given night can score 20.

But we need Rip - he's the consistent one.

With Gordon on the floor with him we'll have more options. I'm guessing we're gonna see a lot of Wallace, Nova, Rip, Gordon, Stuckey/Bynum when Rip does come back - we really need his offense.

And who woulda thought we'd be needing more offense after the off-season we just had?

Glenn
11-18-2009, 07:07 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing a small lineup with Bynum -Gordon- Stuckey. I know that it has been discussed, but it may be necessary to get more scoring punch. Of course, that puts even more burden on Ben/Kwame on the boards, so that could be a problem, too.

The player and ball movement really needs to improve, too. 7 assists from our starters last night, and 3 of them came from Big Ben. Of course, it's exacerbated because our bigs can't score, which again drives home the point about the mistake Joe made not moving Tay and/or Rip this summer for a legit big. And you can save the "yeah, but what bigs were available?" shit, I ain't in the mood for it again.

Pharaoh
11-18-2009, 07:16 AM
Dude, during the off-season I was begging for trades

BEFORE we spent all our money.

Once we signed Gordon and Nova we were basically done.

Joe went the way he went.

Am I supposed to bitch about it endlessly?

This is what we've got and I'm not content. That's why I've posted Kwame trades. They might not get done but at least I have hope.

Fool
11-18-2009, 10:25 AM
Fuck this.


Although Bryant is carrying a heavy scoring load for the Lakers early in the season, the former MVP was revitalized by his first extended time off in several years following Los Angeles' title. He also worked on his low-post game during his summer off, and the results have been obvious in the season's opening weeks.
Bryant frequently took Ben Gordon and other Detroit defenders into the low post, where he either used the moves he learned from Hakeem Olajuwon this summer, or adroitly passed out of double teams to set up open jumpers. Bryant also played with a noticeable edge, jawing with several Pistons before and after scoring on them.

Glenn
11-18-2009, 11:07 AM
He was 1/7 with 2 turnovers when stuckey left the game. If you didnt notice him that, you're either blind or just stupid. Probably the latter.

-30, fwiw

But you go ahead and congratulate Stuckey for his D on Kobe, mmk?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Amk9eVyo9XdQRSZJ5vB_tA28vLYF?gid=200 9111713

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:41 AM
When he was out of the game we were up 7. Kobe was 1/7 and Stuckey has ripped the ball from him twice. Because of the lack of offense, stuckey couldnt match up with him again because Kuester had to go small.

Oh, and you're a moron.

Timone
11-18-2009, 01:16 PM
Kobe running his mouth to other players? Guess he's not the guy I thought he was!!

Fool
11-18-2009, 01:17 PM
I'm talking about the writer. I can hardly read the thing through the cum stains.

Glenn
11-18-2009, 01:20 PM
When he was out of the game we were up 7. Kobe was 1/7 and Stuckey has ripped the ball from him twice. Because of the lack of offense, stuckey couldnt match up with him again because Kuester had to go small.

Oh, and you're a moron.

A moron that's not "on your level", let's not forget that.

Now it's everyone else's fault that Stuckey couldn't continue to be the "Kobe Stopper". Why did we need more offense anyways? Just as long as Stuckey could stay on Kobe, there is no way we could lose!

Kstat
11-18-2009, 01:29 PM
I never said stuckey had a great offensive game. I was pointing out the obvious that everybody with two eyes saw, that Stuckey played very good D on Kobe.

Now go bother someone else with your negative bullshit.

Glenn
11-18-2009, 01:32 PM
I know exactly what you said. I'm exaggerating on your point that we "had" to switch Stuckey off Kobe because we needed more offense. If Stuckey was indeed stopping Kobe, we wouldn't have needed more offense.

Forget it, the moment is gone.

Timone
11-18-2009, 01:41 PM
I'm talking about the writer. I can hardly read the thing through the cum stains.

Oh. Clean off your monitor, then.

Timone
11-18-2009, 01:44 PM
^ just a joke dude, don't run me off the board.

Fool
11-18-2009, 01:44 PM
You have more clout here than me TB.

Timone
11-18-2009, 01:46 PM
You have more clout here than me TB.

I just didn't want you turning me into your new Glan. I cry even harder.

Glenn
11-18-2009, 10:22 PM
Needed to get off to a good start tonight, and it ain't happening.

Miller is making it look easy.

Timone
11-18-2009, 10:24 PM
17-14 isn't too bad of a start. lol

Kstat
11-18-2009, 10:28 PM
In what universe is that a foul on Maxiell?

Kstat
11-18-2009, 10:30 PM
well, we're playing a special brand of careless right now.

Bynum needs to start. There is nobody in command of the offense right now. Stuckey is being way to careless on his drives.

Timone
11-18-2009, 10:33 PM
Could be a lot worse, surprisingly.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 10:33 PM
21-17 isnt terrible, but we will lose this game by 20 if we keep playing like this.

Stuckey needs to develop some finesse. He cant plow into a defender every time down the floor. Defenders are stepping out of his way now and it's resulting in horribly missed layups, because he;s anticipating getting hit.

Timone
11-18-2009, 10:38 PM
This could be where it gets ugly.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 10:43 PM
Bynum keeping us in it. What else is new?

Timone
11-18-2009, 10:45 PM
This could be where it gets ugly.

Bynum disagrees.

Timone
11-18-2009, 10:46 PM
That was a great play by Will. Too bad Jerebko couldn't finish.

Timone
11-18-2009, 10:53 PM
Fantastic play by Will, love the hustle by Jerebko.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:02 PM
Stuckey usually plays better than his stats indicate. That is not the case tonight. He has fucking KILLED us.

we're down 10 right now, and I'm not sure we wouldnt be leading this game if Stuckey didnt play at all.

He's missed 8 shots in the 1st half, and I swear each one has been a fucking backbreaker.

Timone
11-18-2009, 11:05 PM
Yeah, guy is pissing me off tonight.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:06 PM
48-38 at halftime.

Huge surprise, we cant score. Again.

Cant take care of the ball. Again.

Cant close out the last 2 minutes. Again.

Zero floor leadership. Again.

No offensive balance. Again.

I love the hard work they put in on defense, but each and every night that great effort is totally going to waste.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:32 PM
Our terrible offense will not allow us to get back in this game.

We've defended Portland better than anybody could have imagined in this quarter, and we're down more than we were at halftime.

Same old story. Jerebko is left wide open, and his man traps whatever Piston has the ball.

Timone
11-18-2009, 11:37 PM
This is just awful to watch.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:37 PM
To be clear, we could have the best PG in the league running the offense right now, and we would only have 2-3 more baskets than we do now.

When you only have 3 guys on the floor that can make a shot, eventually the other team will clamp down on you.

This is what's happening to us for the 3rd straight game.

Jerebko either needs to start making shots or he cant start anymore. His defense is secondary at this point. We cant have two defensive specialists on the floor that cant shoot.

It's also killing our defense, because we're being forced into terrible shots that are being funneled into fast break dunks.

Timone
11-18-2009, 11:42 PM
Kwame of all people is the guy to net us a shot.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:44 PM
For the first time, I'm seeing a lack of effort on defense, and it's understandable.

When you play as hard as they are defensively and you arent seeing any results, its very mentally draining.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:44 PM
it was a 6-point game 7 minutes ago. It's 20 now.


50 points in 3 quarters isnt going to get it done. We need some offense.

Kstat
11-18-2009, 11:53 PM
I'll say this: at least Summers is aggressive with the ball. Both Daye and Jerebko look scared as shit to even handle it.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:03 AM
I wouldnt be opposed to starting Summers and bringing Jerebko off the bench early. Just start the game with 4 guys that can hit an open shot, please.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:10 AM
8 point game with 3 minutes left. About the same position we had ourselves in last night.

Hopefully this time we can close.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:17 AM
3 point game with 89 second sleft. This is ridiculous.

Timone
11-19-2009, 12:17 AM
Wow.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:20 AM
...and once again, all it takes is one defensive lapse to end the game.

1-point game with under 30 seconds left, you do NOT give up an open 3, and we gave up two of them.

Now we're worse off than we were when we had the ball last.

Portland can salt this game away with FTs now.

Timone
11-19-2009, 12:23 AM
I don't even remember that 08 Minnesota game George was talking about.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:24 AM
foul anybody but Roy.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:25 AM
I like that foul.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:26 AM
bah. He picks NOW to hit both FTs....

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:28 AM
extra effort by Daye keeps us alive.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:29 AM
feels like the basketball gods wont allow us to come all the way back. Portland has played perfect ever since we cut it to 1.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:30 AM
yep.

Once again, an amazing comeback only to be kicked in the nuts at the very end.

This hurts, but at least it feels like we're going to win a lot of games eventually.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:32 AM
Rodney shot 6-21. If I hear Blaha credit him for any of this shit one more time, im flying to portland and shooting him.

Shoopy
11-19-2009, 12:35 AM
Austin Daye looks like a keeper. Has pretty good footwork on the offensive end.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:36 AM
We're going to Beat Utah. I'm calling it.

Shoopy
11-19-2009, 12:38 AM
Btw, don't see the Pistons beating Utah. They've got to be gassed right now. And it's Utah.

Kstat
11-19-2009, 12:40 AM
they have 2 days off. And fuck Utah.

Shoopy
11-19-2009, 12:40 AM
Jerry Sloan could suit up right now and drop 20 on the Pistons with the way the series has gone lately.

Pharaoh
11-19-2009, 09:19 AM
As for our offense why don't we start Ben, Wilcox, Nova, BG, Stuckey or start Daye at SF or give the freaks what they want and start Will Bynum?

This business of getting kicked in the nuts is getting old

Timone
11-21-2009, 08:23 PM
Let's go out and play hard while winning a game for once.

Glenn
11-21-2009, 09:14 PM
Gonna try this chat thing with Keith:

http://www.nba.com/tvc/index.html?gamecode=20091121/DETUTA&brand=DET

Glenn
11-21-2009, 09:15 PM
What's up with Bynum's ankle injury?

Glenn
11-21-2009, 09:15 PM
Anybody else got just a pitch black screen on FSD+?

Glenn
11-21-2009, 09:18 PM
What's up with Bynum's ankle injury?
Keith Langlois: Will Bynum has two tender ankles and a sore big toe, but he's playing tonight.

Glenn
11-21-2009, 09:33 PM
[Comment From Micah ]
Hey keith. Just got in. i think stuckey is going to be super aggresive tonight because DW is playing him and he always seems to step up against other young gaurds. thoughts?? Saturday November 21, 2009 9:28

9:29 Keith Langlois: Hope so. Williams is very clever. He's a guy Stuckey should emulate.

Ya think?

Timone
11-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Right game, bro.

Timone
11-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Seems like that 1st quarter took forever.

Glenn
11-21-2009, 09:44 PM
I'm so fricken pissed that I can't even watch this. I'm guessing that all of west mich is out, dudes are talking about in the chat.

Timone
11-21-2009, 09:48 PM
There were some technical difficulties for me, but the game would come back on a few seconds later. So far so good, except for the fact the score ticker isn't showing up.

Timone
11-21-2009, 10:02 PM
Stuck hasn't looked good at the basket tonight, at all.

Glenn
11-21-2009, 10:06 PM
LOL @ THE LEDEZMA QUESTION!!

Glenn
11-21-2009, 10:07 PM
Comment From Wil Ledezma
How come they never show Mr. D at the games any more? I hope he still cares about the team! I always loved how he showed so much interest in the team! Saturday November 21, 2009 10:07 Wil Ledezma


10:07 Keith Langlois: You do realize Mr. D died last May, right?

Vinny
11-21-2009, 10:07 PM
LOL @ THE LEDEZMA QUESTION!!
Couldn't help myself!

Timone
11-21-2009, 10:08 PM
VINNYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Timone
11-21-2009, 10:09 PM
Matt Shepherd just can't contain himself tonight.

Timone
11-21-2009, 10:26 PM
Yay, the score bar is back!

Glenn
11-21-2009, 10:32 PM
This is bullshit. The Fox Final Score just came on after the wings game. I was hoping that they would switch over to the regular FSD after the wings coverage like they did the other night, but nooooooooooo.

Fuck a Charter.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 10:35 PM
Whats up with the cleavage in the 2nd row? I didn't think mormies did that kind of shit.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 10:41 PM
Byums jock strap is flying over Detroit right about now. Williams just embarrassed him.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 10:48 PM
If Gordon wasn't signed this year we would suck so fuckin bad.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 10:49 PM
^ Considering the ankle turn and the back.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 10:52 PM
well, through 3 quarters, Stuckey is beating Deron Williams on both ends of the floor. Hope it holds up in the 4th.

douche
11-21-2009, 10:52 PM
This is bullshit. The Fox Final Score just came on after the wings game. I was hoping that they would switch over to the regular FSD after the wings coverage like they did the other night, but nooooooooooo.

Fuck a Charter.
You dont get Foxsports+?

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
SUMMERS!

Kstat
11-21-2009, 10:58 PM
Bynum has made some terrible, terrible passes tonight. When he isnt shooting, he's been racking up assists to Utah players.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
Nice to see Summers hit a clutch shot. Unfortunately Bynum's stupidity is going to cut his PT tonight short.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:00 PM
This is the shitiest I've seen bynum play.

Glenn
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
You dont get Foxsports+?
364 days a year

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
I would not be surprised to see us get blown out.

Timone
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
How is this only a 1 point game?

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
Smoke and mirrors or something tonight

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:06 PM
WHat's the record for turnovers in a quarter? I think Bynum is gunning for it.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:08 PM
As physical as Utah plays, its pretty galling to see the bitching over that foul.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:08 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha ha williams with a clean block but get the foul anyway. Love it.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
K, I didn't see a foul AT ALL on that play.

Timone
11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
Matt Shepherd's homerism is impressive, but he's no Fred.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:13 PM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:15 PM
Williams with the crossover again, this time on BG and sent his jock flying too.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:17 PM
well, everybody got the message about sharing the ball....everyone except Bynum.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:18 PM
Bynum is having a bad fuckin game, but he's still awesome for a little fucker.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:20 PM
Milly Vanilly with the floater.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:21 PM
Then fouls Boozer.

Timone
11-21-2009, 11:23 PM
Wide open fucking three. Ridiculous.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:24 PM
unfortunately, Gordon is probably our worst FT shooting guard.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:25 PM
UT announcers pretty much suck

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:25 PM
fantastic defense.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:26 PM
OT

Timone
11-21-2009, 11:26 PM
Yay OT.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:26 PM
fantastic defense.

thats one way to put it.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:27 PM
they forced Utah into a Millsapp 15-foot fade. I'll take those odds.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:31 PM
agree the double at the top was good, but Milsapp just didn't square up cuz of time as much as anything, imo.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:31 PM
Refs doing their best to keep giving Utah the ball back.

Timone
11-21-2009, 11:32 PM
Fuck this bullshit. Fuck Utah.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:32 PM
some serious home cooking here.

4 straight fouls called on us in OT, 3 of them questionable.

Meanwhile, 0 on Utah.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:34 PM
FINALLY, we get a call our way.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:36 PM
I have to wonder if we wouldnt have won this game by now if Will Bynum never played at all.

What is the point of having him out there? He's hurting us on offense and KILLING us on defense.

At least on his shittiest day Stuckey is still a good defender. Bynum has been beaten to a pulp in the paint.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:39 PM
please make these two, Will.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:41 PM
well, I guess keep spreading the floor, and whichever piston guard gets switched with a big man, let him take the shot.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:43 PM
Bynum is a thousand times worse tonight than stuckey ever was. What a horrible, horrible decision.

All that work and this selfish bitch drives into 3 people and coughs the ball up.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:44 PM
scale of 1-10 what do you give Bynums game tonight?

Timone
11-21-2009, 11:45 PM
We will never win in Utah. Ever.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:45 PM
Tough loss right there.

fucking fuck and shit.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:45 PM
Good job running the clock out, Will. You're officially Utah's player of the game.

Down 3 with 12 seconds left, and this fucker just stands there dribbling for a good 6-7seconds.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:45 PM
We will never win in Utah. Ever.

Without Bynum they win by 10.

They played better than the Jazz tonight. This loss had everything to do with Will Bynum and nothing to do with Utah.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:53 PM
Also, this was Kuesters' first major mistake.

Maybe if Bynum was pulled from the game an hour ago when it was clear he was going to be a total fuckup, maybe we have someone with a pulse to guard Ronnie Brewer on one of the 287128 wide open jumpers he had in the 2nd half. Maybe Utah doesnt get one or two layups that they had off of Bynum being a total asshole.

Bynum needed to sit the fuck down in favor of someone that could at least defend and not throw assists to the other team. We were scoring the ball well enough without him on the floor. We needed stops.

We should have won this game. We were absolutely the better team. One weak link killed the whole team.

Tahoe
11-21-2009, 11:58 PM
Bynum and Stuckeys decision making sunk us.

Kstat
11-21-2009, 11:58 PM
Stuckey played well tonight. The mistakes that he did make were not costly ones. He did a good job of running the offense and reversing the ball.

He had the best +/- of any Piston tonight. He also hounded Deron all night long defensively.

Pharaoh
11-22-2009, 04:30 AM
Bynum and Stuckeys decision making sunk us.

LMAO - the last 2 pages consist of complaints about Bynum yet in the end Stuckey gets thrown in for the bashing too.

Let's see all the posts about Bynum being a fucking bum...

I guarantee he gets a free pass on this "cause it's only one game" and he's the little train that could and he went undrafted and all that shit.

You guys keep ripping on Stuckey - he's the favourite past time around here.

It used to be Darko - I guess we suck at drafting players lol

Glenn
11-22-2009, 05:02 AM
Couldn't watch the game but I'l take kstat's word and hope that bynum never plays again.

Black Dynamite
11-22-2009, 09:47 AM
He had the best +/- of any Piston tonight. He also hounded Deron all night long defensively.
Actually he was hounded by AK47 for most of the second half. We had our best 3 on the court and if anything it reminds us how bad we need Rip/Tay back. Alot of one o one driving and most of the offense came via drives or picks to get Gordon slightly free. It was our defense that kept us in this game.

As far as Stuckey goes, he played well even against AK47, but did make a couple bad decisions. Also Deron was getting a hand on the ball everytime somebody came at him in the 4th whether bynum or gordon. Overall we need Tay and especially Rip back. ,

Glenn
11-22-2009, 10:53 AM
“They were either doubling the point (guard) or they were just showing us so hard I was just left wide open. I’m confident in my shot and I was just knocking them down.”

Kstat
11-22-2009, 11:06 AM
he was referring to their pick and roll strategy, numbskull.

Glenn
11-22-2009, 11:09 AM
Well, first off, fuck off. Secondly, I posted that because it's unusual to hear players talk about being left wide open after a game. Thirdly, fuck off.

Glenn
11-22-2009, 11:22 AM
Last shot to salvage a win on this trip. Gotta hope that either Big Ben can control/limit Amar'e or maybe he just has an off night. I don't have a lot of hope that we can keep Nash from penetrating and finding the open man. Hopefully we just don't mail it in looking forward to going home.

Shoopy
11-22-2009, 12:17 PM
5-9, baby. The Pistons will be on pace for 29 wins for the season and that much closer from dislodging themselves from temporary stasis in mediocrity.

Black Dynamite
11-22-2009, 12:23 PM
5-9, baby. The Pistons will be on pace for 29 wins for the season and that much closer from dislodging themselves from temporary stasis in mediocrity.
Yes if Rip and Tay are injured all year, we most the team to the western conference, and we make no lineup changes you're spot on. :)

Also Glenn we played the pick and roll very well. Boozer surprised me and everyone else hitting jumpers that far out near the end. Can't fault us for giving him something that wasn't his strength, he was looking like Memo.

Uncle Mxy
11-22-2009, 12:49 PM
They played better than the Jazz tonight. This loss had everything to do with Will Bynum and nothing to do with Utah.
'cause AK47 would've lit up Tayshaun like that? And there was some serious homer calls at the end, there. "All about Bynum" is a stretch. He had a crap game, but he wasn't the only factor.

MoTown
11-22-2009, 01:11 PM
I can't believe Bynum got some heat. I thought he was the perfect player.

Glenn
11-22-2009, 01:24 PM
The overcompensation was obviously coming as soon as he stumbled a bit. There was just too much pent up frustration for it not to happen.

MoTown
11-22-2009, 01:26 PM
For the record, I like Bynum. I also like Stuckey for what he is and what he still could be. I don't have any ill-will towards him for what (and who) he isn't and what he was never will be.

I hate Kwame Brown.

Glenn
11-22-2009, 01:47 PM
Actually, Will was just being a good teammate so fewer people would notice another fine 6/18 night from Stuckey.

Just kidding, of course, this is the stuckey fan's day to gloat, enjoy it!

Timone
11-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Actually, Will was just being a good teammate so fewer people would notice another fine 6/18 night from Stuckey.

Just kidding, of course, this is the stuckey fan's day to gloat, enjoy it!

I see what was done there by you.

Kstat
11-22-2009, 08:26 PM
Looked like the Pistons were going to get blown out early, then just like that a 10-0 run and they take the lead.

Ben Gordon should have all the open threes he wants in this game. The Suns do not like to pressure the perimeter at all.

Kstat
11-22-2009, 08:32 PM
really hurt us when Gordon picked up that 2nd foul. Not enough offense on the court right now and the Suns are taking advantage.

Kstat
11-22-2009, 08:34 PM
Jerebko with two AK47-type blocks at the rim already. His wingspan allows him to go over the back to block shots without making contact.

Kstat
11-22-2009, 08:39 PM
Bynum doing the best job he can to kill all the goodwill he's earned in 24 hours.

Tahoe
11-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Fuck! another foul on BeeGee

Glenn
11-22-2009, 09:29 PM
Jonas is going off!

Timone
11-22-2009, 09:31 PM
Oh shit, I forgot this was on!

Glenn
11-22-2009, 10:38 PM
SCHEDULING LOSS

Glenn
11-22-2009, 10:42 PM
I was thinking this morning that my new nickname for Stuckey might be "one third". But that might be giving him too much credit. It would be tonight, at least.

We're never going to win giving up 61% from behind the arc and 58% overall, anyways though, so the blame doesn't go to a single individual anyways.

Moving on...

Tahoe
11-22-2009, 11:33 PM
I was thinking this morning that my new nickname for Stuckey might be "one third". But that might be giving him too much credit. It would be tonight, at least.

We're never going to win giving up 61% from behind the arc and 58% overall, anyways though, so the blame doesn't go to a single individual anyways.

Moving on...

Yeah right

Glenn
11-23-2009, 01:49 AM
I meant the team, not me.

MoTown
11-23-2009, 09:23 AM
Good road trip.

Glenn
11-24-2009, 03:34 PM
Kulfan piece from today:
http://www.detnews.com/article/20091124/SPORTS0102/911240344/1265/SPORTS08/Pistons--0-4-trip-highlights-shortcomings

If anybody wants to make an OGT for Cleveland, go for it.