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Pharaoh
11-11-2009, 05:49 AM
So, I was bored and sat down to work out our roster for next season.

I came up with this:

C Ben Wallace - likely gonna be re-signed - dude still has it
PF Super Nova
SF Tay Prince
SG Rip Hamilton
PG Rodney Stuckey
06 Ben Gordon
07 Jonas Jerebko
08 Will Bynum - is restricted this off-season so we'll keep him
09 Austin Daye
10 Chris Wilcox
11 Jason Maxiell
12 DaJuan Summers
13 2010 First Round Pick (hopefully a C)
14 2010 Second Round Pick

So that means that Kwame and Chucky won't be back.

Why let a $4 million expiring deal just come off the books when cap space is so coveted this coming off-season?

We have the ability to deal him before the deadline and acquire another young player, or a longer contract along with a future first round pick.

Would you be willing to deal Kwame for a longer contract and a pick?

What kind of deals could be out there for us if we put Kwame on the trading block?

Hermy
11-11-2009, 06:23 AM
Why let a $4 million expiring deal just come off the books when cap space is so coveted this coming off-season?




So Joe can use the MLE this offseason while retaining the flexabilty under the cap that allows for him to make a big deal if one lands in his lap. Forward thinking like this is what makes Joe so great.

Pharaoh
11-11-2009, 07:02 AM
Don't get me started on that stuff Herm.

We're way under the luxury tax and could afford to take back a similar contract for Kwame while still using the MLE and remaining under the luxury tax.

We'd be able to add (in theory) 2 decent players instead of 1

Glenn
11-11-2009, 07:29 AM
I like Keith Hermlois' response here.

Pharaoh
11-11-2009, 07:41 AM
I could actually see that being the response if someone posed that question.

Hermy
11-11-2009, 07:52 AM
It would be. As much as we railed Old Man Davidson for being cheap, his wife is worse. She applauded at how much the cap came down so Joe couldn't spend as much.

Let me repeat that. She was happy that we could not acquire more or better players with the first cap space we had in 10 years. She was happy Joe was limited in his ability to improve the team. Sounds like someone ready to approve deals to add salary or, heaven forbid, set us up against the luxury wall then allow the resigning of key players to go over it.

Pharaoh
11-11-2009, 08:25 AM
Is there anyone in Detroit/Michigan that could/would buy the team if it was for sale?

Hermy
11-11-2009, 09:10 AM
Stryker? Kid Rock/Seger? I think the plan is for Marla to take over in time.

WTFchris
11-11-2009, 10:09 AM
I agree with you P. If you can get a better player with a longer deal, do it.

Pharaoh
11-12-2009, 08:11 AM
Well, that would be the plan.

Or take a "bad" contract and get a pick out of it.

The worst contract I found was Miami's James Jones (I already posted that deal elswhere).

Since then I realised Miami actually has a massive trade exception. It's big enough for them to take Kwame. That doesn't help get them more cap space but if they send us their 2010 draft pick THAT saves them some space.

Cause even if they haven't signed the rookie come July 1st he'd still count against their cap.

I doubt they're looking to add a late Lotto/mid first rounder to that roster - unless they see someone great.

Aren't they trying to add a star (Boozer/Bosh/Amare)? They'll need all the space they can get.

There are a lot of teams that would want the cap relief from Kwame's expiring. We should really explore all our options before the deadline and get something for him.

Joe Asberry
12-07-2009, 06:24 PM
Kwame + Chucky for Gortat, basically its a salary dump for Orlando, maybe we add a 2nd round pick...if you think Gortat can be a good starting center it might be worth it

mercury
12-07-2009, 10:41 PM
There's gonna be a ton of teams with more than MLE space next year... several wide eyed GM's are going to have to settle for MLE type talent... likely overpaying so they can say "see we did something".
This could lead to some slim pickin' for Joe.
Go ahead and deal Kwame if you can get value... cause he may be all that's left in our lap next summer.

Fool
12-08-2009, 04:10 PM
I like this plan for Gortat better.

Glenn
12-23-2009, 09:19 PM
Portland just lost Pryzbilla for an extended period.

What could we get from them for Kwame?

Unfortunately, they don't have a big to offer now, but maybe some sort of 3-way deal could be swung where we get a big from someone else.

Fool
12-24-2009, 02:09 PM
They help us get a big so they can take Kwame off our hands to be their big?

DrRay11
12-24-2009, 08:47 PM
^heh, exactly.

Uncle Mxy
10-12-2011, 03:05 PM
This is funny, and mentions the Pistons:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Kobe-Bryant-tells-a-ridiculous-Kwame-Brow?urn=nba-wp9177
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801310DET.html

Vinny
10-12-2011, 07:29 PM
That was only 3 years ago??!! Jeeeesus, seems like 20.