Normally, I wouldn't care about the House passing such a wasteful, (new CBO numbers project 3 trillion+) and partisan bill, because I would know that it will be the end of the Democratic-controlled Congress in 2010 (over 40 Dems in the House represent R+1+ Districts).

However, I find it very distrubing that there is fedral funded abortion in this thing. Although I consider myself "pro-life", I also have the realist view that it's highly unlikely that Roe v. Wade will ever be overturned (unless it were to be up to the people via a ballot proposal, which again is highly unlikely to ever happen)-- so that said, I know abortion will still take place in America for the coming decades, but under no circumstances should taxpayer dollars be used to fund the procedure.

There is no tort reform in this bill (since the ppl who write these things are lawyers) and the MediCare costs are pretty astounding.

I don't think Pelosi has the votes, but if she does, then there will be many "Blue Dogs" who will be out of a job next November. Especially when you consider Obamacare wouldn't start until 2014.

That's my opinion.

I saw a couple of blue dogs last night and they said 'no way, no how' if there is abortion dollars in the bill.

They were also kind of pissed cuz they were told the revisions were supposed to give them the language they wanted to make sure abortion wasn't in the bill. Again, they were a lil pissed that Pelosi told them it would have the language they wanted but she wouldn't do it.

The Repubs bill is 290 pages included Tort reform, allows competition across state lines and the cost isn't anything anywhere near the Dems spending debacle.

It seems the Gov't could start there and if we needed to do more later, do it. Especially since Obama is spending our childrens futures away with all his other crap. Crap that the Reps voted for in a lot of cases.

What kind of abortions are they covering? Like "on demand" or "life of mother" or in between?

I don't know that Herm. I just assumed it was most all abortions.

If this thing is passed, then I'm moving to Japan for a few years/as long as it takes for them to revoke it as a JET and filling my days with squint-eyed poon.

Peace, hopefully they'll give you a conservative palace and get knee deep in oil wars to give you a lil' slice of what you consider to be paradise. And please take Willy with you, some culture shock would do his narrow mind some good.

Peace, hopefully they'll give you a conservative palace and get knee deep in oil wars to give you a lil' slice of what you consider to be paradise. And please take Willy with you, some culture shock would do his narrow mind some good.

I'm a silver spoon with excellent health benefits from my parents, man.

Can you blame me?

Besides, I can't even trust the government to properly deliver me my mail.

Why in the hell should I believe they'll be able to run a health-care system?

Besides, I can't even trust the government to properly deliver me my mail.

Why in the hell should I believe they'll be able to run a health-care system?


To be fair, my mail service is much better than my healthcare, and I have Cadillac health care.

Besides, I can't even trust the government to properly deliver me my mail.
Define "properly". Is your mail properly delivered if it doesn't come with a blowjob from a hottie fe-mail delivery agent??

I live in a town of less than 1,500 people.

The post office workers have not changed in a long, long time. Which makes this even less excusable.

They mix up my family's mail with another family's because they have a surname similar to ours, but not exactly (think 'Smith' and 'Schmidt').

Guaranteed at least five times a year, for the past ten+ years. And, no, it's not a case of 'cursive is so hard to read sometimes.'

And, yes, this is important, because the electric company doesn't give two shits if the post office screwed up.


I know it isn't 'a big deal', but you can only do so much damage through the post office outside of letter-bombs/anthrax. We're talking about a health-care system.

I live in a town of less than 1,500 people.

The post office workers have not changed in a long, long time. Which makes this even less excusable.

They mix up my family's mail with another family's because they have a surname similar to ours, but not exactly (think 'Smith' and 'Schmidt').

Guaranteed at least five times a year, for the past ten+ years. And, no, it's not a case of 'cursive is so hard to read sometimes.'

And, yes, this is important, because the electric company doesn't give two shits if the post office screwed up.


I know it isn't 'a big deal', but you can only do so much damage through the post office outside of letter-bombs/anthrax. We're talking about a health-care system.


This is really what your basing your argument on?

Nope. Just ranting.

I don't know enough about the situation/bill to go beyond relating it to the inconveniences of the post office.

That's never stopped Tahoe.

I have Cadillac health care.
Damn sounds nice, my Healthcare looks like this,
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/11/Bomb_Pinto_Rr_LH.jpg.

If this thing is passed, then I'm moving to Japan for a few years/as long as it takes for them to revoke it as a JET and filling my days with squint-eyed poon.

Whoa, dude.

Whoa, dude.

Wow, such reprimands.

I'll be back with some other slurs on races and porn. It'll be a blast.

I do have to remember we're talking about Michigan peeps here...car industry... I mean as far as whats acceptable.

You're going to cast slurs at the porn industry?

You're going to cast sluts at the porn industry!
Fixed.

You're going to cast slurs at the porn industry?

Fool must have also lost a job to superior car makers.

I'll be back with some other slurs on races and porn. It'll be a blast.

I've decided to actually ONCE AGAIN, take the high road and not do the things y'all routinely practice.

You've just called us all racists.

Nice.

What's keeping them from just adopting the Canuck or French system (besides pocket padding)?... they obviously have a high satisfaction rating.

So we still don't know what types of abortions this covers? That makes a huge difference if you're talking rape abortions versus I forgot a condom and don't want a kid abortions.

So we still don't know what types of abortions this covers? That makes a huge difference if you're talking rape abortions versus I forgot a condom and don't want a kid abortions.

Amazingly, some people don't agree that there's a difference.

Those people don't deserve sex and should never have to worry about the difference.

You've just called us all racists.

Nice.

You don't say anything when peeps on the board makes racist comments.

Nice.

I didn't even understand that kid's post. What is JET?