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Glenn
10-20-2009, 09:44 AM
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Richard Hamilton wants his 32 retired

Tuesday, October 20, 2009
By Terry Foster

Richard Hamilton uses stretch time before games to look around The Palace. That's when trainer Arnie Kander turns him into a human pretzel and Hamilton's eyes roam.

When he looks up, he sees championship banners from 1989 and 1990. He sees banners with the names of Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars and Bill Laimbeer. His dream is to see a banner with his name up there.

"Man, I would look up there and say I got to get there," Hamilton said Monday. "And the only way to get up there is to win championships and win games. We won a championship. I did that. Now my job is to win another and be the best player I can be."

Hamilton wants to remain a Piston for life.

That's why he hopes trade rumors involving him aren't true.

When the Pistons signed shooting guard Ben Gordon from the Bulls in the offseason, many speculated Hamilton's days in Detroit were numbered.The question was, will there be enough balls to go around for Hamilton and Gordon, who averaged a combined 39 points last season?

Pistons president Joe Dumars refused to comment on the speculation.

For Hamilton this is par for the course. He has heard trade rumors for years.

"Man, we hear our names (in trade rumors) all the time," Hamilton said, breaking into a big grin.

"All we can do is play."

Gordon like a brother
Hamilton believes the experts have it wrong.

They don't understand the bond he has with Gordon.

He said he has become Gordon's "big brother" and that he's taught Gordon how things work with the Pistons. He says they are building a relationship, not fighting over the ball.

Gordon concurred, saying he loves when the Pistons go to a three-guard set and he gets to play alongside Hamilton.

"We need each other," Hamilton said. "I can't do it by myself and I don't think he can do it by himself. In order for us to win we are going to have to help each other out."

The next question, though, is, if by playing small ball -- the Pistons want to speed things up by playing Will Bynum or Rodney Stuckey alongside Hamilton and Gordon -- do the Pistons have enough up front to hold off better rebounding and more physical teams?

Hamilton believes the Pistons have the bulk and the guard play to win this season.

And he wants to stay.

Tough transition
That wasn't always the case.

Take last season, when Hamilton went through the toughest season of his career.

The Pistons traded his friend and backcourt mate Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson, who replaced Hamilton in the starting lineup until he was banished from the team.

Hamilton was hurt by the slight, but one of the first things new coach John Kuester did was try to patch things up.

Hamilton admits it was a test on his love for the team.

"But at the end of the day I still wanted to remain here," he said. "That was the positive thing. I love the city. I love the fans. We brought a championship here and hopefully we can find a way to get back to the promised land."

Hamilton dreams of the Hall of Fame and wants to walk out before his fans as a retired man and watch his number and name lifted high.

"Man, that would just be awesome," Hamilton said, breaking into a wide smile. "It would be awesome to be part of a dynasty, and when you look up into the rafters you not only see Hall of Fame guys but to be a part of it, that would be great.

"And when you talk about the great ones, they are mentioned with their teams. You don't just say Michael Jordan. You say Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls, Larry Bird and the Boston Celtics."

All Hamilton wants is for his name to be mentioned in the same fashion ...

Richard Hamilton and the Detroit Pistons.

terry.foster@detnews.com (313) 222-1494

Glenn
10-20-2009, 09:45 AM
TRADE HIM

MoTown
10-20-2009, 11:09 AM
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Wilfredo Ledezma
10-20-2009, 03:23 PM
He'll probably get his # retired even if he was traded tomorrow...

Surely he has had a better Piston career than Vinnie Johnson or Bill Laimbeer. (# of championships aside)

Hermy
10-20-2009, 03:33 PM
He'll probably get his # retired even if he was traded tomorrow...

Surely he has had a better Piston career than Vinnie Johnson or Bill Laimbeer. (# of championships aside)


Bill is 3rd in games, 1st in boards, 5th in fgs (ahead of rip by over a grand), 9th in steals, 4th in blocks, 1st in fouls, 5th in points, and a big 1st in "win shares".

Rip (and I'm a big fan) isn't close.

WTFchris
10-20-2009, 04:40 PM
Let's suppose he ends his career here. He's got another 5 years of good production at least (he obviously works hard on staying in shape).

That would put him at or better than these numbers in his career:

36,000 minutes
20,000 points
4,000 assists
2,600 rebounds

Take off his washington numbers and you have this with the Pistons:
30,000 minutes (Lambs is 3rd with 30,602)
16,700 points (would be 2nd behind Zeke)
3,500 assists (4th behind Zeke/Dumars/Bing)
2,000 rebounds (not in top 10 of course, but he's a SG).

He's also on pace to be 2nd all time in FG makes behind Zeke.

Pretty sure his number will hang regardless of titles if he stays here.

Wilfredo Ledezma
10-20-2009, 04:45 PM
Who will havr their number retired...10-15 yrs from now?

Ben ?
Chauncey (i think he's a lock, but that's just me)
Prince?
Grant Hill?

Sheed?

WTFchris
10-20-2009, 05:09 PM
If prince also stays his will be retired.

The other 4 have issues with length of stay and need to be debated.

Laxation
10-20-2009, 06:17 PM
I like Bens being retired, but only because he really symbolised what the whole team was about.

geerussell
10-20-2009, 06:42 PM
I'll buy Ben as the face of the team and the era did start with him but Chauncey was the essential piece. He should be a lock for the rafters.

Wilfredo Ledezma
10-20-2009, 10:18 PM
My dad said that Vinnie Johnson's # being retired was a stretch...

is that a fair assumption? or was my old man blowin smoke....?

Once he told me that, I got the assumption that the Pistons are a franchise who will retire anybody's # as long as they were a solid player and part of a memorable season...

Tahoe
10-20-2009, 10:35 PM
Vinnie's number should NOT have been retired, imo.

Black Dynamite
10-21-2009, 03:13 AM
Vinnie's number should NOT have been retired, imo.
In reality opinion be damned it should not have been retired. I say with al the respect in the world for VJ.

Uncle Mxy
10-21-2009, 07:10 AM
I suspect Trader Jack said "stay here and your number goes up in the rafters". Vinnie had given up money on a couple occasions to make the three-guard rotation possible. His last contract came up for renewal right after that shot in Game 5. Imagine the Pistons letting him go after that moment.

Hermy
10-21-2009, 08:30 AM
In reality opinion be damned it should not have been retired. I say with al the respect in the world for VJ.


This is correct. Good guard, essential to the titles, but he's closer to Corliss than Isiah.

geerussell
10-21-2009, 08:48 PM
When it comes to VJ it's not like we're talking the hall of fame, retiring a number is pure PR. Being a fan favorite and core piece of a title or two is plenty.

Fool
10-22-2009, 12:04 PM
Agree with G. It's all bullshit anyway. If you were sweet, having the organization remember it is only positive.

Hermy
10-22-2009, 12:10 PM
The Hall of Fame isn't pure PR?

Fool
10-22-2009, 12:33 PM
The B-Ball Hall of Fame is an international mess.

Uncle Mxy
10-23-2009, 07:26 AM
The B-Ball Hall of Fame is an international mess.
College and women's mess too.

Politically correct mess.

Pharaoh
10-23-2009, 08:24 AM
HOF/retired jerseys/All Star Games/NBA's Top 50 = bullshit

Political correctness/career achievment award/cash cow - whatever the reason so many deserving dudes get fucked over for no reason.

Don't worry 'Nique - I'll always remember.

Glenn
11-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Rip on when he might retire, A.I. (http://www.freep.com/article/20091117/SPORTS03/911170354/1051/sports03/Rip-on-when-he-might-retire-A.I.)

Vinny
11-17-2009, 01:58 PM
Rip on when he might retire, A.I. (http://wtfdetroit.com/article/20091117/SPORTS03/911170354/1051/Rip-on-when-he-might-retire-A.I./Rip-on-when-he-might-retire-A.I.)

GlanFail

Glenn
11-17-2009, 02:00 PM
Actually a Freep fail, but I'll take the hit for my boy Vince Ellis and his IT guys.

http://www.freep.com/article/20091117/SPORTS03/911170354/1051/sports03/Rip-on-when-he-might-retire-A.I.

Vinny
11-17-2009, 02:01 PM
What's up with the link:http://wtfdetroit.com/article/20091117/SPORTS03/911170354/1051/Rip-on-when-he-might-retire-A.I./Rip-on-when-he-might-retire-A.I.

Glenn
11-17-2009, 02:02 PM
I copied it and pasted right from the Freep Pistons page, I dunno.

Vinny
11-17-2009, 02:05 PM
Lies!