ND favored by 11.

But they're not any good, right?

I'm looking forward to bukdow starting "his" MSU game thread.

So, how much better is UM's secondary than MSU's?

I know I voted for the MSU wins option, but I like the Irish 45-31 if the Sparty defense doesn't show up, 35-21 if it does.

Hard to say. You could say U of M will wake up ND, but CMU might wake MSU up too. I'm taking ND by 4, but I wouldn't be shocked to see MSU beat them either.

Always support the conference. College sports is the only time it makes sense to because of the voting. Always want the conference to win.

I agree. I always vote for Big Ten to do well.

1) it helps shut up critics of the conference

2) it improves your strength of schedule.

Even though #2 is a non factor, I'd always root for MSU against all but U of M and CMU.

BTW, I was torn watching Saturday nights game. Can't stand OSU or USC. Wasn't sure if I should root for OSU based on #1 and #2 above, or root against them based on a bigger hatred. In the end I rooted against them. Every time I saw the vest and when I saw the looks on the OSU faces at the end...it was certainly the right call.

Disagre with you, Fool.

They have a win in the bank against ND, they need them to look good the rest of the way.

It will help UM a lot in the cpu rankings.

And I know they play MSU too, but the ND win is in the bank, and with the national love that ND gets, that could really help UM

That is true. Say ND finishes ranked higher than MSU. It looks better to have that signature win over that better team. That being said, it won't matter because I think both will end up ranked but not in BCS bowls.

ND does have an easier schedule tough.

Not to mention that another MSU loss pushes them further down on the bowl game pecking order, and possibly UM up.

Plus, it's always more fun when MSU loses "big" games.

its pretty optimistic to think the cpu's will be a factor for michigan.

this line is extremely optimistic for state. 11 points? i got nd by 11 in the first qtr, and it gets worse from there. i believe to quote bukky (since he wont be showing up soon, it seems) 'nd will be extremely focused in winning'. if weis loses his ass is insta-canned. plus he has a personal vendetta vs msu.

msu's secondary may or may not be better than UM's. no one has a secondary to stop ND. meanwhile, ND's defense is probably about avg, but itll look better against dantonio's meat and potatoes than against rodriguez's salsa and enchiladas.

Yeah. CPU rankings would only matter if you were in contention for BCS. Even then, you'd have to have PSU or OSU in the national title game to have a shot at an at large bid.

Michigan would have to beat everyone but OSU and PSU for this to even have a chance at mattering.

More likely they'll just be slotted with their finish in the big ten (somewhere in the 3-6th range I would guess). In that case ND/MSU doesn't matter at all.

I think ND will be very good this year, but I expect an even better performance from MSU. One thing Dantonio is establishing is consistency. I expect to see an improvement in the ground game with one of the two freshmen hitting 70 yds after Ray hits 80. A good secondary will help greatly against ND's mini Tebow (he has 1,000 more yds for his career than Tebow but against crap comp).

I believe MSU will win by 3 tds.

This quote is so good, I'm simply gonna rework this shit every week and post it.

BTW, I bet Lefevor is a better NFL QB than Tebow despite what Baker thinks.

I think it's the Citrus Bowl that gets to choose the second team out of the B-10. I think that could be a realistic goal if everything breaks right, which would include MSU losing to ND.

I pictured Baker, up in a luxury box, watching the game with some Big Booster of MSU (maybe the guy who owns the most newspaper distributing machines in the Tri-County Area), acting like a Big Shot, asying things like, "Well, Keef Nickle's arm sure looks better, eh Stosh?" and, "Wait til Notre Dame hammers Tater Tot and he gets a broken coccyx!"

So, MSU seems to weather the first half storm of CMU, goes up by ten, and yeah, Baker starts feeling his oats.

Then the :SHIT STORM!:

meltdown http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/denial-and-the-coming-data-meltdown.jpg

hits, and as CMU's winning field goal goes through the uprights, he runs out crying :emo kid: , and hides under a rock for a few days.

I'm too lazy to look, has he been here?HAHAHAHAHAHLOLZwhat a dork.:cogent:

Lol @ Zip. Wow.

Sparty thought stopping Leh-fa-vor was tough, wait till they try to stop the emu.

ND-41
MSU-27

I'm gonna say that Michigan State really builds on Michigan's 2nd half and does two things to help them win the game........

1. Press ND's wide receivers at the line of scrimmage and re-route them.
2. Pound the rock right at them and control the clock.

I think Michigan State will shut down Golden Tate and Shaquille Evans (no Floyd) and Larry Caper will announce his entrance to major college football.

MSU - 37
ND - 24

CMU was a wake up call to MSU. State has a history of playing well in South Bend as well.

MSU 35 ND 24

Somehow, someway MSU pulls it out. Charlie is in a tailspin.

Hoping for 52-0 ND

Prediction is MSU 28-24

Sparties are gonna love watching this on NBC

I'm finally feeling this game.

ND BIG!

Is MSU as bad as last weeks outcome? Enquiring minds want to know.

"here are the adidas starting lineups for Michigan State"

Lol

jimmy clausen does not want greg jones to hit him, for some reason.

ND looks like they could score on every possession today

AHHhhhhhhhhhh Bret. Better luck next time.

Doink

Lol

Trickeration for Sparty!

DOUBLE TRICKERATION BY SPARTY!

Did you NBCee It? OMFG!

Irish were robbed.

Irish luck is overrated!

MSU-17
Notre Douche-16

chuckles looked like he was contemplating a post notre dame future during the half time interview.

msu looks great now that nd's two best players are injured.

Halftime........leading.............daddy like.

i may have to switch to rooting for sparty out of fear of the 10M 'clausen won through injury stories' we'll hear otherwise.

ND with the touch. Nice play actually.

Nichols feeling it a lil bit. Couple of nice plays on this drive.

Huge block by ND to keep a 3pt lead.

HUGE play by Dell!!

HELL YEAH!

Go MSU.

That was phenomenal pass coverage by whoever that was on Tate right in front of the endzone.

Nichols feeling it a lil bit. Couple of nice plays on this drive.

Cousins?

same exact situation and the pass works this time. i think that significantly increases the odds that ND wins this.

Will Cousins have a Tate moment?

what a game!

Oh shoosh he was wide friggin open homes.

im hoping OT, but with a blocked kick and a miss, im not sure state wants to have to attempt a fg here.

or that

Intercepted, game over.

No "S" in this party.

And aside from that pick, I thought Cousins looked really good.

Good game.

fucking cock shit

That was the same dude that picked off Tate last week, too.

Same Old Spartans.

That was the same dude that picked off Tate last week, too.

Tate just let him have one.

Despite us having the lead at times, it just felt like nd was in control of this game. fuck the irish..

Fought to the bitter end. Tough break.

Defense has been atrocious. Have to shore up some sort of pass rush to disguise the fact that our secondary can't cover a 2 year old at this point.

Fought to the bitter end. Tough break.

Defense has been atrocious. Have to shore up some sort of pass rush to disguise the fact that our secondary can't cover a 2 year old at this point.

Claussen was fricking on fire today. I thought the overall coverage by your DB's was pretty good, actually.

Greg Jones was fairly nonexistent. Notre Dame's offense is really good, idn't it?

The ending was pretty typical. Same-old-Spartans.

Will Cousins have a Tate moment?

This is Cousins:

http://bristle.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/shit003ozs6e5.jpg


This is Tate Forcier:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nWM7i3w-mgU/SGwqAi1uDDI/AAAAAAAABIw/-7KuyL-L2vM/s320/voules%2Brandom%2B11.jpg

^lol

sparty doesnt even know. if floyd doesnt go down so early this is never a football game. that guy is ridiculous. nd is f'd without him. especially in two weeks with washington coming to town (as dangerous as the experts said they were).

Cousins' pass at the end of the game may have been the worst throw in football history.

Fought to the bitter end. Tough break.

Defense has been atrocious. Have to shore up some sort of pass rush to disguise the fact that our secondary can't cover a 2 year old at this point.

our secondary is fucking horrible. the defense wouldn't let the offense play.

blair white was good. cunningham had some good catches towards the end. the bigten is looking real bad this year

BTW, surprised ND didn't get flagged for Tate leaping into the Sparty band members after scoring that game winning touchdown.

State actually played better yesterday v ND than last week, no?

100 more passing yards, 30 extra yards rushing. But they still lost.

30 points should be enough to get it done, especially on the road.

Defense was atrocious.