Looks like RR`s shit is starting to storm.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090829/SPORTS06/90829021/1318/Michigan-football-program-broke-rules--players-say

Current players ratting him out no less. This team is going to come apart at the seams if WMU wins by 14+ points. UM needs to cut ties with RR and show Martin the door as well. What a monumental fuck up.

the slime is bubbling

Every time you post.

So the accusation is that they practiced/worked out too much and too hard?


good, they need it.....you saw their record last year right?


oh and even a high school freshman laughs at the term "voluntary workout"


I'll let Dan Hawkins take it from here
-4T26x6GZEw

It's the lead story on ESPN.com. Big deal or not, it's a big deal.

So the accusation is that they practiced/worked out too much and too hard?


good, they need it.....you saw their record last year right?


oh and even a high school freshman laughs at the term "voluntary workout"


SPIN AWAY MICHIGAN FANS, SPIN AWAY!!! Everybody pays players hundreds of thousands, every team breaks the rules, spin spin spin! Lead story on ESPN but Michigan fans will push it aside so they can live in their own personal lala land.

I'm just waiting for the article to come out about how Greg Jones was in the weight room with Terrance Taylor during all this. You guys are unreal.

I seriously wish I had a dollar for every nausiating conversation about Barwis I had to bite my tongue and listen to prior to last season. You woulda thought the guy was...Tom Izzo or something. haha Of course the dude is good, HE CHEATS.


100 bucks says Glan won't even read the article.

It's the lead story on ESPN.com. Big deal or not, it's a big deal.

Most recent headline does not = lead story.

What sanctions did Michigan get hit with for this? I haven't read the article.

Most recent headline does not = lead story.

Well, if you turned on ESPN anytime today and looked at the ticker on the bottom, "LEAD" would come across the screen and Scandal U was it. Spin away


"Pride Comes Before the Fall"

This is just the Freep trying to throw some spice into the upcoming season. Every major program has a breaking story of 'NCAA violations' all of which are one-day nonsense (Ohio St w/ Clarett, USC w/ Bush, Tenn w/ Kiffin). One week from now, nobody will give a shit (that is, if they do not already).

"Pride Comes Before the Fall"

Whoops, nevermind. I guess this means the argument is over Baker won.

This is just the Freep trying to throw some spice into the upcoming season. Every major program has a breaking story of 'NCAA violations' all of which are one-day nonsense (Ohio St w/ Clarett, USC w/ Bush, Tenn w/ Kiffin). One week from now, nobody will give a shit (that is, if they do not already).

Dude, you've got several players on the current team and parents of players on the current team talking to reporters about violations their coach is making-you've got serious issues. Forget possible sanctions, etc. If players on the team are talking to reporters about infractions that will hurt their team, things are not good. Chemistry is so important and they obviously aren't all on the same page. 10 freaking hours on Sundays after a Saturday game?! No wonder there are issues, when NFL players are calling the program over the top...something is wrong.

Keep spinning.

Whoops, nevermind. I guess this means the argument is over Baker won.

There is no argument. Your own players are calling out their coach in the media. Whoa. What is there to argue about? Are you going to argue against your own players who are dealing with it first hand?

At the very least a detailed list of clean spot checks will assuage the NCAA if they choose to investigate. "Failure to monitor" can't be alleged when there is monitoring. This is a major reason big schools report a lot of minor violations and escape the NCAA hammer: they pay attention and back it up with documents. Meanwhile, the accusations leveled are anonymous, unverified, and vague. It takes a huge leap to go from this article to even the tiny wrist-slap SEMO received.

The Free Press says the NCAA's reaction is "impossible to predict," but I'll predict: it'll be slightly more strenuous than their reaction to the NCAA's reaction the Ann Arbor News academics story. Since their reaction to that story was to ignore it, that only implies a cursory look through the books.

Non-issue. This is just another poorly written article trying to stir up drama. Similar to how the left tried to make 'Trooper Gate' an issue for Sarah Palin, when there was really nothing to report...

Pathetic.

There is no argument. Your own players are calling out their coach in the media. Whoa. What is there to argue about? Are you going to argue against your own players who are dealing with it first hand?

Not a big deal, but the two players that the FREEP talked to were true freshmen that were discussing how the season is going so far and how much fun they were having in practice.

If Michigan was gunning for a title every year, the players wouldn't be bitching.

If this was WMU, the media wouldn't be bitching.

I'm curious to see if this ever happened at WVa. Nothing yet from Pat White.

I want a head coach that pushes right up to the boundaries of what's allowed and what isn't, and until there is a reprimant of some sort, than this is nothing more than wishful thinking by our resident little brothers.

I almost think they'd rather have this be true and major infraction than have their own team legitimize itself someday.

Classic example of the insecurities popping up again. Defend the gun toting a-hole that shoots himself in the leg, but jump all over a strength coach that is driven by a goal of excellence.

I'll go to war with BARWIS on my team anyday.

I want a head coach that pushes right up to the boundaries of what's allowed and what isn't, and until there is a reprimant of some sort, than this is nothing more than wishful thinking by our resident little brothers.

I almost think they'd rather have this be true and major infraction than have their own team legitimize itself someday.

Classic example of the insecurities popping up again. Defend the gun toting a-hole that shoots himself in the leg, but jump all over a strength coach that is driven by a goal of excellence.

I'll go to war with BARWIS on my team anyday.
At this point, I don`t know who the bigger homo is, you or ledezma.

I really want to hate you, but I just can't.

Love you, man.

At this point, I don`t know who the bigger homo is, you or ledezma.
Even your own gaydar fails you sometimes?

At this point, I don`t know who the bigger homo is, you or ledezma.

At what point?

If Michigan was gunning for a title every year, the players wouldn't be bitching.

If this was WMU, the media wouldn't be bitching.

I'm curious to see if this ever happened at WVa. Nothing yet from Pat White.

Anyone remember the document shredding before he left WVU?

Funny how Glan was all over a 13 year old story about Mateen and three hundred bucks, but this national headline is okay with him.

I want a head coach that pushes right up to the boundaries of what's allowed and what isn't, and until there is a reprimant of some sort, than this is nothing more than wishful thinking by our resident little brothers.

I almost think they'd rather have this be true and major infraction than have their own team legitimize itself someday.

Classic example of the insecurities popping up again. Defend the gun toting a-hole that shoots himself in the leg, but jump all over a strength coach that is driven by a goal of excellence.

I'll go to war with BARWIS on my team anyday.

Your Scandal U finds itself once again headlining Sportscenter for cheating and we have insecurities. I say you have the insecurity...you can't help but bring MSU into the conversation. What the fuck does MSU have to do with one of your programs cheating AGAIN? I guess all of the sports world is just jealous of Meeeeichigan and that is why this is a national story right? Arrogant and pathetic.

Your own players, former players, and parents are calling out their coach for forcing players to put in 3 times the limit in hours and you are spinning away of course. Tell me this, if one team is allowed to practice for 3 hours and the other practices for 9...who is going to improve more and who will be more prepared? What is noted as the biggest advantage of making a bowl? Extra practice time. It is huge. If we were talking an hour, fine...but 12 hours on a Sunday!? How do you think Western feels about getting 1/3 the preparation time as Michigan for Saturday?

You are defending cheating, says a lot about your character.

I think I'll let the NCAA decide rather than you.

Worked out okay for O$U.

Your Scandal U finds itself once again headlining Sportscenter for cheating and we have insecurities. I say you have the insecurity...you can't help but bring MSU into the conversation. What the fuck does MSU have to do with one of your programs cheating AGAIN? I guess all of the sports world is just jealous of Meeeeichigan and that is why this is a national story right? Arrogant and pathetic.

Your own players, former players, and parents are calling out their coach for forcing players to put in 3 times the limit in hours and you are spinning away of course. Tell me this, if one team is allowed to practice for 3 hours and the other practices for 9...who is going to improve more and who will be more prepared? What is noted as the biggest advantage of making a bowl? Extra practice time. It is huge. If we were talking an hour, fine...but 12 hours on a Sunday!? How do you think Western feels about getting 1/3 the preparation time as Michigan for Saturday?

You are defending cheating, says a lot about your character.

Can someone please tell me which current players and parents are calling out Coach Rod? The FREEP talked to 2 true freshmen a WEEK ago at Media Day and they said the exact same thing as Andrew Maxwell in regards to a question about practice. Am I missing something in regards to what is being said?

If this is proved to be true, I think it shows how the players feel about Rodriguez right now. You know this shit happens at EVERY school, but it's only reported when your coach is a jackass.

However, I've lost all respect for the NCAA and it's rules committee. If you punish Michigan for this and make them lose scholarships, you better punish USC for it's Reggie Bush fiasco. You better punish Ohio State for it's Maurice Clarrett fiasco. You better punish every other school that committs any type of violation. Unfortunately, the NCAA won't punish anyone that deserves it. It is such a poorly run organization that it's losing the last bit of respect that it had left.

The NCAA isn't even going to investigate this. So a few kids complain because they didn't get the 'Lloyd Carr' treatment and actually had to work hard each day, it's called discipline.

LOL @ the Free Press for trying to make this a big deal. Reggie Bush got the VIP treatment at USC and got to keep his heisman and Nat'l Championships, so why the hell would anybody think anything would come from this other than a simple slap on the wrist?

Free Press = Epic Fail

Six days from now, there will be no story (if not sooner).

Can someone please tell me which current players and parents are calling out Coach Rod? The FREEP talked to 2 true freshmen a WEEK ago at Media Day and they said the exact same thing as Andrew Maxwell in regards to a question about practice. Am I missing something in regards to what is being said?

I saw Toney Clemons who transferred to Colorado spoke out about it. But he said it wasn't mandatory (which would be the violation).

Can someone please tell me which current players and parents are calling out Coach Rod? The FREEP talked to 2 true freshmen a WEEK ago at Media Day and they said the exact same thing as Andrew Maxwell in regards to a question about practice. Am I missing something in regards to what is being said?

It wasn't just two freshmen, the players didn't want to be identified for obvious reasons. Here is a quote:

Numerous players on the 2008 and 2009 teams said the program far exceeded limits intended to protect athletes from coaching excesses and to ensure fair competition.

Two players called Michigan’s off-season requirements “ridiculous.” The players described the coaches’ expectations as an ongoing concern among many teammates. Parents of several players agreed.

The players and parents agreed to talk only if they were not identified because they said they feared repercussions from the coaching staff.

The NCAA isn't even going to investigate this. So a few kids complain because they didn't get the 'Lloyd Carr' treatment and actually had to work hard each day, it's called discipline.

LOL @ the Free Press for trying to make this a big deal. Reggie Bush got the VIP treatment at USC and got to keep his heisman and Nat'l Championships, so why the hell would anybody think anything would come from this other than a simple slap on the wrist?

Free Press = Epic Fail

Six days from now, there will be no story (if not sooner).

Epic DENIAL. One was a starter last year, one is a current starter. I think these guys are pretty happy with playing time, etc. You are laughing at the FREEP which I normally would agree with, but then you have to laugh at ESPN, Ann Arbor News, etc. etc. This is all over. Keep living in your dream world where Michigan does nothing wrong and they are perfect, I know its easier that way.

If they are outraged enough to speak to the press, then do it publicly. Staying anonymous is so lame. Who cares if there is backlash from the coaches if you feel that they are doing something wrong? Speak up, give up your schollys and leave the evil program for a "nicer" one.

But no, that would take some kind of personal sacrifice, something that these cats obviously aren't interested in. These guys want the best of both worlds, "make practice easier for me, but don't let anyone know that I was the guy that complained". Chickenshit.

If they find out who specific players are, I hope they pull their $ and run them out of town.

Be man enough to put your name to your words or STFU.

If they are outraged enough to speak to the press, then do it publicly. Staying anonymous is so lame. Who cares if there is backlash from the coaches if you feel that they are doing something wrong? Speak up, give up your schollys and leave the evil program for a "nicer" one.

But no, that would take some kind of personal sacrifice, something that these cats obviously aren't interested in. These guys want the best of both worlds, "make practice easier for me, but don't let anyone know that I was the guy that complained". Chickenshit.

If they find out who specific players are, I hope they pull their $ and run them out of town.

Be man enough to put your name to your words or STFU.

What the fuck are you talking about...you can't even man up and admit your coach did something wrong when current, former, and parents are saying so.

Anybody who things the NCAA is actually going to take the time to launch an investigation into this (I can think of 2) is an absolute fool.

What the fuck are you talking about...you can't even man up and admit your coach did something wrong when current, former, and parents are saying so.

He did something wrong when the NCAA says he did something wrong, not when lazy brats and their mommies and daddies go running to the principal's office under the cover of anonymity.

Wake me when this "scandal" costs UM a game.

Rich Rod shredding files = this thing (whatever it is)

AKA- sunday news fodder, and nothing more

Too much TV $$$$ at stake. UM being dealt severe punishment is tenuous, at best®

It wasn't just two freshmen, the players didn't want to be identified for obvious reasons. Here is a quote:

Numerous players on the 2008 and 2009 teams said the program far exceeded limits intended to protect athletes from coaching excesses and to ensure fair competition.

Two players called Michigan’s off-season requirements “ridiculous.” The players described the coaches’ expectations as an ongoing concern among many teammates. Parents of several players agreed.

The players and parents agreed to talk only if they were not identified because they said they feared repercussions from the coaching staff.


Reply to the Alice Kravitz of the board:

"Numerous"--hints that there would be MANY--but we know that could be just more than ONE.

TWO players said the expectations were "ridiculous"??C'mon, even a douche like you knows that TWO out of 100 or so means... And what, exactly does "ridiculous" mean?

Parents of SEVERAl players agreed? Again--that means more than ONE. And they agreed with WHAT?

Baker, have fun with this; I know you will. But it makes you look like even more of a girl than you already are.

Baker tries to make it seem like the masses have spoken out to confirm the issue, but as Zip just pointed out, you can in fact count the number of people on one hand and still have a finger left over.

Antonio Alfonseca would have 2 fingers left over.

Even RIVALS has Rich Rod's back on this one!
(Rivals guys are in the "We ate Rodriguez. He's not Les Miles" camp. Now the writer of this article is a BG SHOT. He's from The New Republic

http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=982287

Look at all you scUMmers searching for reasons to look the other way.

Pathetic.

Dantonio has always been 100% above board, and always will be.

Hand on the Good Book.

What the fuck are you talking about...you can't even man up and admit your coach did something wrong when current, former, and parents are saying so.

How can Dick Rod be HIS coach when he never even set foot on an UM campus? You, as an MSU alum, know better than to... oh, wait.

I like how he got miffed when I shot that pic of a UM tshirt at Meijer a few weeks ago (as a joke) and DIDN'T take a picture of the alleged MSU version.

I mean, Meijer is no Walmart, but ...

Je'Ron Stokes - True Freshman was interviewed at Media Day and asked about practice.
Brandin Hawthorne - True Freshman was interviewed at Media Day and asked about practice.

Terrence Taylor - Outgoing senior that "praised" the S&T coaches on the NFL Network as he said they helped mold him into an NFL player. He had some complaints and he is the one guy that hurts the most for me as he was always a good player that had a solid attitude.
Toney Clemons - Transfer that is going to Colorado and on the way out had nothing but glowing things to say about Michigan and the coaches, but has now changed his tune and was happy to talk to Rosenburg.
Morgan Trent - Was interviewed by Rosenburg and had nothing bad to say about the program or the coaches except to thank them for helping him live his dream and get to the NFL.

Now I don't know who the 6th player is that is/was interviewed and I dont know whether its a current or former player, but I find it funny when everyone claims that "several current" players have thrown Michigan under the bus when it was two freshmen that were just answering questions. Has anyone read the response from Ron Stokes (Je'Ron's father)? Seems pretty clear that his son's answers were twisted. Also, freshman Michael Schofield's dad posted several times yesterday backing the coaches and the program and has said his son hasn't complained once about any irregularities.


P.S. I wonder how much money this will bring in for the Detroit Free Press which has been undergoing severe financial troubles and is in danger of closing up shop within the next year.

I think it will hurt the Freep. UM is a left leaning institution and the Freep is usually the one that leans left. I'm sure some stubborn alumni will cancel their subscriptions.

Even RIVALS has Rich Rod's back on this one!
(Rivals guys are in the "We ate Rodriguez. He's not Les Miles" camp. Now the writer of this article is a BG SHOT. He's from The New Republic

http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=982287

That article pretty much says it all.

I felt similarly when reading Rosenberg's piece, it just reeks of being written by someone with an agenda.

I'm glad the Freep got called out on this one.

Just a man with an agenda (Rosenberg, who has hated RR from even before day 1) trying to take down Rich Rod and I'm sure some of "Lloyds old boys" aren't used to the change, so they talked. You think USC, Florida, Oklahoma and Texas are cutting it off exactly at 20 hours a week?

Here's Urban Meyer on "voluntary offseason workouts".

"If there's any resistance," Meyer said, "that guy's not going to play." Meyer didn't have the depth to make that statement in any of his previous four seasons at Florida, and the Gators still won two BCS titles. Now, he has the program he dreamed of creating.

Chad Henne even said that if you want to remain a top program in the country, it's not even close to possible to do in 20 hours. If Michigan was winning, you wouldn't hear a peep. It's been a very rough "changing of the guard", but I think this will go away.

And for those of you who were ripping Barwis and saying MSU is "squeaky clean", here's a quote for you.


Much has been made about the intense workouts at Michigan under Mike Barwis, the new strength and conditioning coach.

The Michigan State Spartans would like everyone to know they're working pretty hard, too.

"I don't think they're working harder than us anyway," MSU running back Javon Ringer said. "I'm pretty sure they're working tremendously hard, but the things we go through with our weight-training coach -- coach (Ken) Mannie -- are unbelievable."

Apparently freshman Je'Ron Stokes is one of the players who "complained" about workouts to Rosenberg. Here's a quote from his dad.


I think it is a DISGRACE for any person with the "power of the pen", to mis-use that priviledge for ill intent. For the reporter that interviewed my son, "twisted his quotes in such a way to bring suspicion on our Michigan program, is pathetic!!! Coach Rich Rod, and his staff run a very respectable program, and they do a wonderful job of making sure that their staff as well as their players understand the NCAA rules, as well as the team rules. My son by know means has any complaints, with the Coaches, the workouts etc... HE LOVE MICHIGAN, HE LOVES BLUE NATION, and he is excited and ready to go into this season with his teamates who are just as excited to be part of a special season in yet another page of Michigans history to regain National prominence.

I appreciate the support we are "ALL IN", my wife and I spoke with our son almost everyday this summer.All of his condidtioning activities were within compliance. The 7 on 7 's were voluntary extra work that he wanted to do , with some of the other players.....all VOLUNTARY... I am extremely upset about this. Je'Ron is a good young man, hard working in every sense. We as parents want him to enjoy playing football, but also enjoy his college experience and working to get his degree from this great school. I just think it is a shame to be dragged into this nonsense!! We are in the process of reaching out to the media outlets involved to clear my son from this mess that has gotten out of control

Freshman OT Michael Schofield's dad also had something to say.

As a parent of a Michigan player I will say that the Freep is full of ____. Michael spent more time this summer on class work than anything else, he came home to visit, there were no Barwis police chasing him making him practice, he played basketball, goofed around with other sports athletes at the dorms, like all college kids do. To say that these kids are training or being made to train over the NCAA limits is untrue…what my wife and I like about Michigan Football was their commitment to education first. Something the Freep does not believe in. GO BLUE”

Sorry for the "quote fest", but I thought they had to be heard.

I remember Moodini throwing out "the Barwis factor" in every Michigan conversation a year ago and by the end of the season he says to me that he thinks its completely overblown. lol

Anybody catch RR fake crying in the presser? Priceless...fans around the BT are having a field day with this. Watch the video..he keeps acting like he is choked up but not even a hint of watery eyes. Classic. This circus just keeps getting better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtRC5xTyE8

Did you favorite it, share it on every social networking site you're signed up on, and rate it 5 stars?

I do find all this slime overblown, but we will see what the Big Ten does after it finalizes the investigation.

Also, Rich Rod could have had a much better presser had he not fake cried and just said we don't break the rules, blah blah blah.

Did you favorite it, share it on every social networking site you're signed up on, and rate it 5 stars?

Yes. Twice.

Yes. Twice.

You know these fuckin' scUM fans are going to bring up something John L. did at a press conference years ago to derail this.

Did RR slap somebody?

If so, cool!

At this point, I don`t know who the bigger homo is, you or ledezma.

For someone who has said before on this board that there's nothing wrong with being gay, you sure do like to call people "fag" and "homo".

Did RR slap somebody?

If so, cool!


Oh, I'm sorry. Is this ESPIN?

Aside from all the details, there is something I'd like to clear up. Terrance Taylor said he'd spend 10 hours on a Sunday when 4 is the max allowed. Are the Michigan fans calling him a liar? I'm really not being sarcastic, I really want to know.

Aside from all the details, there is something I'd like to clear up. Terrance Taylor said he'd spend 10 hours on a Sunday when 4 is the max allowed. Are the Michigan fans calling him a liar? I'm really not being sarcastic, I really want to know.

I'd like to know the context of the 10 hours. Remember, not ALL things are part of it. Training table stuff, working out, meals, film sessions (if they are, ahem, voluntary, SHOWERING (although I'm sure Baker would like to be the Shower Monitor and find out why MSU guys are named "Stone" "Rock" or "AssPlugger"), and studying at Schembechler Hall.

No one is calling Taylor a "liar"--he prolly DID spend all that time there. But Rodriguez stated at his presser that Sunday pratices were one hour--always have been--no longer. So, as with all pieces like this, we need to know a breakdown o what Taylor and others did. But THAT won't make headlines or give sissies like Baker ammo to go screaming out to the masses in a futile attempt to divert attention away from his Epic Failure at being an Investigative Reporter himself *COUGH Keef Nickle's ARM*COUGH

Maybe you can go 'in the shadows' and get some insider scoop from some guys to help clarify this.

Maybe you can go 'in the shadows' and get some insider scoop from some guys to help clarify this.

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/image.php?u=903&dateline=1167254807

Hey guys. I heard Rich Rod killed an MSU player and skeeted on said player's corpse.

Can someone fill me in?

Huge just asked Rosenberg directly, "How many current players did you speak to for this story?"

The answer... "um, I don't know, I don't have that in front of me".

Really?

The NCAA is in Ann Arbor asking questions and sniffing around. I think someone has drawn a bead on RR.

Maybe you can go 'in the shadows' and get some insider scoop from some guys to help clarify this.

A post directed to me by Jickboy? Noooooo, couldn't be. What an internet stalker.

p.s.-I'll check the insiders for ya, just wait on it.

The NCAA is in Ann Arbor asking questions and sniffing around. I think someone has drawn a bead on RR.

A friend of mine (die hard UM fan) just called me up and the first sentence after I said hello was, "Why in the hell was he fake crying?" I cracked up.

All posts are directed at your douchebaggery from everyone, not just me. Don't try and flatter yourself thinking I am stalking you.

You claim that you are so much more mature and over the rivalry stuff, yet continually call me a douche because of my sports opinions. Right, got it. I've never posted anything directed at you or said anything personal due to your differing sports opinions or how much I disagree with your take. I'd love to roast the shit out of you everytime you rip me, but I don't want to lower myself. That would be maturity my friend.

In topic related news, Jessie Palmer had this to say:

"I know some programs count their actual minutes to make sure they do not exceed the alotted amount. I doubt there are programs overly abusing the amount of time allowed."

He did say there are pry some that exceed some, but didn't seem to agree with the Michigan spin "everybody does it."

You don't even make an effort to hide your insecurities, do you?

You have become my personal sideshow. Amuse me, pawn.

Baker...roast away. What can you possibly say about me on an internet message board that would hurt my feelings? Because we know eachother off this site makes you think you have all sorts of 'inside info' on me that would embarass me in front of a bunch of people I don't know. I hate on you cuz of your tired ass MSU arguments.

I feel like I'm back in the third grade when I'm reading Tre's posts.

Anybody catch RR fake crying in the presser? Priceless...fans around the BT are having a field day with this. Watch the video..he keeps acting like he is choked up but not even a hint of watery eyes. Classic. This circus just keeps getting better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtRC5xTyE8
"We`ll go tah church with `em on Sundy."

What a great, great man. I am enthralled. The honesty, the integrity, the grit. UM does not have a football coach, they have a mixture of John Wayne, George S. Patton and Mother Theresa. Hail, hail, to the vicars.

bukdow, who is George S. Patton? Is he a slot receiver?

You don't even make an effort to hide your insecurities, do you?

You have become my personal sideshow. Amuse me, pawn.

Ledezma/Baker feud = traffic gold, baby!

"We`ll go tah church with `em on Sundy."

What a great, great man. I am enthralled. The honesty, the integrity, the grit. UM does not have a football coach, they have a mixture of John Wayne, George S. Patton and Mother Theresa. Hail, hail, to the vicars.

I lost it when he made the church comment, what a pathetic attempt to look innocent. I'd bet everything I have on the fact that not a single one of those coaches has went to church with one of his players. hilarious regardless

In all seriousness, the UM fans that do defend DickRod remind me of myself defending JLS back in the day. You want your guy to be good, but once he's gone you come to the realization that it was just loyalty that was speaking and the dude was a joke.

Tuesday, the Charleston (W.Va.) Daily Mail reported that West Virginia University's compliance office reviewed its records after the Michigan allegations were made public and found no similar issues during Rodriguez's seven years as the Mountaineers' coach.

"Based upon our looking back over the weekend, we don't feel we have any concerns," said Michael Fragale, WVU's assistant AD for communications, according to the report. "We have checked it out and there has been nothing flagged and nothing out of the ordinary. ... There were no student-athlete complaints during the time [Rodriguez] was here."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4434031

I really wonder how much of this is an orchestrated witchhunt stemming from within the pro-Lloyd Carr/RR is not a "Michigan Man" camp. It would be pretty easy to use Rosenberg as a front man by feeding him some info.

Whomever followed Lloyd was going to face some of these issues, and the fact that RR was so outspoken about making dramatic changes when he came in has obviously ruffled some feathers.

I really wonder how much of this is an orchestrated witchhunt stemming from within the pro-Lloyd Carr/RR is not a "Michigan Man" camp. It would be pretty easy to use Rosenberg as a front man by feeding him some info.

Whomever followed Lloyd was going to face some of these issues, and the fact that RR was so outspoken about making dramatic changes when he came in has obviously ruffled some feathers.
What I am hearing is that there is a fairly established anti-RR contingent at UM. They didn`t like him when he came in, they certainly didn`t like him after 3-9, they don`t believe he is holding to the UM traditions and they just don`t like him, his stripper wife and his fat, Pepsi drinking kids. They view him as a hick rube and it rubs them the wrong way. More to the point, they are indeed using Rosenberg to go after him in the press.

IF UM finishes below .500 this year with loses to MSU and OSU (let alone WMU), RR will be gone and Martin with him if he does`t realize what side his bread is buttered on pretty quickly.

Well, if this all amounts to nothing then the smear tactics could really backfire. RR has already become a bit of a sympathetic figure in this on many fronts.

Well, if this all amounts to nothing then the smear tactics could really backfire. RR has already become a bit of a sympathetic figure in this on many fronts.


A lot easier to sympathize with someone who wins.

Well, if this all amounts to nothing then the smear tactics could really backfire. RR has already become a bit of a sympathetic figure in this on many fronts.

I don't see it backfiring at all. It doesn't matter if they get sanctions. People hear about the initial allegations and then the sanctions are handed down months after when it blows over. I also don't see anyone showing sympathy other than former players or the UM fans that do support him.

Regardless, we are all on the same team here. You want him at Michigan and State fans want him at Michigan. Not too many times when all can agree here.

I heard several national talking heads yesterday saying that this is stupid and that they feel badly that RR is being singled out for something that "everyone" does.

I heard several national talking heads yesterday saying that this is stupid and that they feel badly that RR is being singled out for something that "everyone" does.

The NCAA, and college sports in general, is so fucked up. A coach is brought in from a successful program to revive an historic program, and is paid tons of money, AND is expected to revive the program in short order (2-3 years), AND to compete for a national title, AND TO BEAT O$U ON A REGULAR BASIS.

Then, when he starts kicking some bitchy ass, working them to competition level, everyone begins to cry, and completely forget exacctly WHY he was brought to UM in the first place.

Tressel is laughing his ass of right now.

I don't see it backfiring at all. It doesn't matter if they get sanctions. People hear about the initial allegations and then the sanctions are handed down months after when it blows over. I also don't see anyone showing sympathy other than former players or the UM fans that do support him.

Regardless, we are all on the same team here. You want him at Michigan and State fans want him at Michigan. Not too many times when all can agree here.

Wait on it.

This is priceless!!!!!!!!!!!! Only uM fans could think having half the fan base hate the coach is a good thing!!! I can't wait to see what kind of trouble Dick gets himself into next!

Wait on it.

bewbs

He ain't gonna get in trouble now.

King Beaver says UM compliance has been ON IT, MOTHERFUCKER FUCKJUICE, and it is expected that the NCAA will accept UM's findings of "No irregularities"

It is done.

smear campaign, plain and simple

They all fear the DickRod.

This is priceless!!!!!!!!!!!! Only uM fans could think having half the fan base hate the coach is a good thing!!! I can't wait to see what kind of trouble Dick gets himself into next!


Pencildick, for the last 13 years UM has had a coach that half the fn base hated. Don't let revisionist sentimentality fool ya: Lloyd Carr was as polarizing as DickRod.

smear campaign, plain and simple

They all fear the DickRod.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7OC0YbG2fek/SEOwp3JE8dI/AAAAAAAAGDg/UAsLIixjsro/s400/RichRodriguez.jpg

http://antonazucar.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/rich_rodriguez_smilingjpg.jpg

http://blog.mlive.com/wolverinesfootball_impact/2008/07/large_071217-rich-rodriguez-looks-up-at-presser.jpg

http://media.wsbt.com/images/Indiana_Michigan_rodriguez%20maloney.JPG

http://www.mgoblue.com/uploadedImages/Sports/Football/Articles/2000s/2008-2009/News_Releases/rodriguez-092408_300.jpg

He's looking more and more like Pete Rose every day.

This one was probably already posted before, but it's still floating around.

L_qja5hJGm8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qja5hJGm8

That's funny.

It's worth watching the whole thing.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2013/12/25/michigan-wolverines-offensive-tackle-taylor-lewan-questioned-alleged-assault/4199589/

always thought Lewan was bit of a d-bag, regardless of whether it's true or not.

YEAH BUT MAX BULLOUGH

YEAH BUT MAX BULLOUGH

SPIN

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#Michigan has opened the door for 3 players to transfer, granting releases for: RB Thomas Rawls, S Josh Furman and DT Richard Ash