Your prediction

Make yes. Win a game? That possibility is tenuous at best.

Oh wait... :we:??

No... the WTFDetroiters will not make the National Basketball Association playoffs.

you gotta think yes. I will say that the PF C position scares the hell out of me though.

Not with the current roster.

"It's 50/50" ruins this poll, IMO

I don't think we can judge this until we've got a few games under our belt to see what Kuester does with his gameplan and rotation. Give me 10 games and then we can start making assumptions.

"It's 50/50" ruins this poll, IMO

what do you mean, gives fence riders a way out?

I got a call from DirecTV about sports packages and I'm seriously considering NOT paying to watch the Pistons next year for the first time in lots of years.

NHL is 69 bucks and the NBA is 160 or so.

I'll always get the Lions and the Tigs, just looking for that 3rd team to watch.

If things go to plan, I'll probably be getting League Pass for the first time this year. I've been doing the Slingbox thing for quite a while not, but I've grown tired of watching games on a smaller screen and in lower quality.

Sports packages = Awesome for out-of-staters.

I can't live without my league PASS. It's pure gold.

I'm going to try out sunday ticket this year too.

League passes are major league rip-offs, but I gotta have it.

"It's 50/50" ruins this poll, IMO

I agree - people have an "out".

I voted yes. Making the playoffs in the east isn't exactly a lofty goal.

On paper, this roster looks potentially entertaining but no amount of cornbread and beer goggles will make me see a contender. They'll need a couple players to really exceed expectations in a breakout way and who can guess where that will come from--if at all from the current roster.

In the East, a .500 record gets you a 7 or 8 spot, which probably means one and done.

Hell, that shitbag Curry made the playoffs, and the team all but gave up on him. If this team grows respect for Kuester, and wants to win for him, I see the Pistons at a solid 7.

Some of the teams above the Pistons got a little better, but I didn't note any of the teams BELOW them improving much.

Some of the teams above the Pistons got a little better, but I didn't note any of the teams BELOW them improving much.
Washington and Toronto, without question. I think NJ & NY will be better, too. A few others are debatable.

NJ is arguably the worst team in the NBA now. They handed over a guy that averaged 21/5/5 last year in exchange for Courtney Lee.

The Knicks shuffled a bunch of deck chairs and wound up adding Jordan Hill and little else.

the Raptors lost Anthony Parker and Shawn Marion, the only two wings on that roster that played any D, and replaced them with Turkoglu and Derozen, ensuring that aside from Bosh they will make the 2010 Pistons look like the 2004 Pistons.

Other than that, great assessment.

League passes are major league rip-offs, but I gotta have it.

Depends. With the Pistons only being on national TV 4 times this year, it's only a little over 2 dollars a game to see every game. So to me, that's justifiable. I thought about sunday ticket this season, but can't justify the price, so I'm passing.

I just couldn't deal with being bombarded with Eagles and Steelers game severy week.

I'll take Lee, Alston & Terrance Williams over VC

And I guarantee you that the Raps will be better than last year, catastrophic injuries aside.

I know in your world that the only team that ever gets better is the Pistons, but it does happen, believe it or not.

I never deabted the wizards getting better, or the teams above the Pistons, (aside form the bulls) gettign better.

But your stance that every team in the east improved more than the Pistons is ridiculous.

The fact you said the NETS got better just show that you're throwing random shit against the wall.


I'll take Lee, Alston & Terrance Williams over VC

Then you are a total moron. That is the dumbest thing ever uttered. The entire forum is dumber for having read it. Go back to your emo corner and cry some more.

Then you are a total moron. That is the dumbest thing ever uttered. The entire forum is dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Go back to your emo corner and cry some more.

But your stance that every team in the east improved more than the Pistons is ridiculous.

If all else fails, just make some shit up. So typical of you.

How hilarious is it that the dude with the anime avatar is the one that constantly is questioning everyone else's manhood?

I never questioned your manhood in that post. In didn't have to. The joke wrote itself.

Now please try not to post again for a while. The stink is still lingering from that amazing brain-fart you just let out. Don't add to it.

The Nets will still miss the playoffs, most likely, but they were going to miss them with VC anyways. I think they've got a good shot to win a few more games this year with the three new rotation guys and continued improvement from Lopez and Harris (and Lee).

Fact is only ONE of the teams we are talking about has to pass the Pistons for them to be lotto-bound (assuming none of the other playoff teams collapse) and I would put the odds of one of these teams surpassing the Pistons at "very likely"

I know that stings for you, but oh well.

I just couldn't deal with being bombarded with Eagles and Steelers game severy week.

You probably could never see the Lions either (couple of games a year, maybe???) unless you went to a bar.

I'm a Bears fan, and where I live there's a chance they will be on 8 times without sunday ticket. I can go to a bar and spend $20 to $25 and come out ahead.

You probably could never see the Lions either (couple of games a year, maybe???) unless you went to a bar.

I'm a Bears fan, and where I live there's a chance they will be on 8 times without sunday ticket. I can go to a bar and spend $20 to $25 and come out ahead.

I tried that last year. There are two sports bars in town. One is an Eagles Bar, the other is a steelers bar. The Lions game would always be shown on some shitty 27-inch TV in a corner with no sound that didn't even work right.

Unless the Lions are playing the Eagles, Ravens or Steelers, they aren't on TV here, except for Thanksgiving.

Washington and Toronto, without question. I think NJ & NY will be better, too. A few others are debatable.
How did Washington get better? And defensively how did T Dot do so. Both those teams did nothing to address why they were not playoff teams imo. But i concede that they got even more offensive options. I'm interested to see how the chemistry plays out though.

Title change request:

Pistons playoff chances, Manhood discussions, Direct TV, Wizards and Nets discussions.

Lets throw this topic in here...Does anyone ever eat a Cheese pizza anymore? I used to order them all the time. Now they look at me like I grew up a long time ago or something.

Direct TV package.... Add in the beer and food I bought at the bar to go watch the Lions and 10+ bucks a game is a steal.

cheese pizza is actually my 2nd favorite...outside of the hawaiian.

Direct TV package.... Add in the beer and food I bought at the bar to go watch the Lions and 10+ bucks a game is a steal.

What sucks is they want to charge an extra $100 for hi-def....but I'm going hi-def free for a year, so that temptation is gone for me.

I feel there is a lot of good things to say about cheese pizzas...as long as its that good cheese.

What sucks is they want to charge an extra $100 for hi-def....but I'm going hi-def free for a year, so that temptation is gone for me.

I agree. I told them to shove that hi-def shit up their ass.

the problem is that you really need to have a deep dish to really appreciate a fine cheese pizza.

Either that, or a stuffed crust.

Papa John's has a 3X cheese special a few months back that was pretty good...I wish more pizza places had extra cheese pizzas.

I feel like a pussy for voting "it's 50/50". I say yes.

^ You should feel like a puss and so should Vinny, Denny and Chris.

Bunch of pussies

And the fact Glan is adding to my Washington Wizards hype annoyance makes my blood boil.

^ You should feel like a puss and so should Vinny, Denny and Chris.

Bunch of pussies

Amen.

I'll predict the Pistons won't make the playoffs when the season ends and they aren't there. They've earned the benefit of the doubt from me.

^ You should feel like a puss and so should Vinny, Denny and Chris.

Bunch of pussies

This coming from a guy who didn't even vote. :dismissed:

I know my opinion, I'm asking y'alls. I'm deciding what sports package to buy next year and what type of pizza to buy when I'm watching.

I know my opinion, I'm asking y'alls. I'm deciding what sports package to buy next year and what type of pizza to buy when I'm watching.


Get HD. Then order a deep dish pepperoni, bacon and jalapeno (or jabenero if you can handle it) with extra cheese. Don't get no shitty square slices either.

it's $400 for HD NFL Sunday ticket.

it's $400 for HD NFL Sunday ticket.

If I'm buying it anyway, I'm paying the extra for the HD. Otherwise I'm going to sit there pissed off for many, many hours over the course of the season because I didn't drop the extra dough. All or nothin. For the record, my pizza would have jabeneros.

Get HD. Then order a deep dish pepperoni, bacon and jalapeno (or jabenero if you can handle it) with extra cheese. Don't get no shitty square slices either.

Thank you, Sir. I agree on most of your post especially square pizza. Who the fuck does that?

I still won't eat that square hamburger either. I forgot the name of chain that makes those square hamburgers. Fuckin communists.

Thank you, Sir. I agree on most of your post especially square pizza. Who the fuck does that?
Women.

Also, I'm surprised no one has called me a fair weather fan...yet.

No defense = No playoffs

With Ben, Kwame, Wilcox and Maxiell to support Charlie I think our "weakness" isn't all that weak.

Some of y'all are high as fuck on Maxiell - thinking he can be a real beast for 10 minutes or something. If he can do that and Ben, Kwame and Wilcox can spread the load then our C/PF rotation will be good enough.

On one wing we still have Prince - and this season he's got some help. With Daye, Summers and Jerebko Prince is likely to see less minutes and therefore should be more effective. Imagine Prince being more effective at both ends of the floor...

On the other wing comes Money Inc - Rip and Ben Gordon. Weighing in at a total combined salary of more than $20 million!!! And we all know what Rip can do. Many are just freaking out about what Gordon can do off the bench. I think it can work and I think we'll be a better team because of it.

No more 5 minute stretches where we struggle to score a bucket. This coming season we won't struggle to score 80 points EVER (I hope).

And at PG, the man in the hotseat - Rodney Stuckey. Time to harden the fuck up, kid. It's show and prove time. Can he improve? Of course - the guy has a ton of talent and he's got some good vets around him.

All in all I'm pretty jacked about this coming season - this is probably the most I've been hyped since the title. For the last few years the team just didn't seem to give a fuck. There was no passion. No heart, no balls.

This season (I hope) is gonna change all that.

On the other wing comes Money Inc - Rip and Ben Gordon. Weighing in at a total combined salary of more than $20 million!!!

This is funny.

As always I'm happy to see you happy, GD.

It's just a pity the Money Inc name was used in WWF many years ago, otherwise Joe could copyright it and sell a lot of T-shirts.

Several have noted chemistry, which IMO is far more important than bits and pieces added or removed.

I suppose the big question is: Is Kuester the kind of man (not "coach", mind you), who can rally the talent on this team to exceed expectations? There's still some remnants of pride here, and if he can squeeze out every ounce of it, that just might make up for his lack top dog experience.

Everybody's writing off the Pistons (well, really only Glan), and that might be the best thing for this team -- if Kuester can play it right.

He can rally them to do it for dear Detroit, fallen on hard times.



Exactly!

Kuester: "Show the world Detroit is not dead! Show the world Detroit is resurging! C'mon boys, lets GET 'EM!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"

Final score: Cavs 135 Pistons 23

:hollinger:


Detroit: Are we sure Joe Dumars is still the one calling the shots over here? Trading Chauncey Billups? Extending Richard Hamilton? Signing Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox? Trading in coaches like they're eligible for the "cash for clunkers" program? Does this sound like the guy who was two steps ahead of everybody else in the league for half a decade?

The Pistons have four guards who can score and none who can pass. They have two centers who might not shoot .800 from the line … combined. Their starters at the 2, 3 and 4 would have trouble bench-pressing my laptop. They have another new coach, and maybe he'll make this all work somehow, but I'm not holding my breath.

JHIAC

not sure why that didnt go in the hollinger thread.

I'm curious what Hollinger's argument is against extending Richard Hamilton...

For one, Rip's extension happened before the AI/Chauncey trade.

Next, each year the Rip has stepped up his game defensively and is still one of the best pure jump shooters in the game. Throw in the intangibles of winning a ring, leadership, moving w/o the ball, FT%, and a solid 3PT% then an extension with less years and at a lower price than the outrageous deal Iguodala got last summer seems warranted if you ask me.

How does this fucktard have a job?

I'm curious what Hollinger's argument is against extending Richard Hamilton...



I'd suppose its the Gordon/Stuckey/Bynum "not really PG" trifecta. But if I were to pick 1 of the 4 I'd take Rip, so I'm surely not going to criticize Joe for that move.

I also question why the fuck Hollinger takes issue with Joe for the signings of Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox.

Because I'm sure we're the only team in the league that pays a couple reserves more than $4M, right? So rather than wasting money on long-term deals with equally or lesser productive players like Varejao, Jeffries, Pachulia, Gadzuric, Przybilla, Dampier, Gortat, Andersen, Turiaf, Etan Thomas, Diop or Songaila's of the world-- we go ahead and give a modest 1 yr deal to a solid guy like Wilcox. Is Hollinger really tyring to imply that we do the latter??

Has this tool ever heard of depth? What are we supposed to do John, sign Nikoloz Tskitishvili and Robert Swift to the league minimum and expect to get solid production out of them?

I mean really...

CUNT!

The less attention paid to Hollinger the better.

And, as we all know it's pretty easy to look back on certain stuff and say "IF".

Joe doesn't have that luxury and the fact that he was "two steps ahead of everybody else in the league for half a decade" earns Joe some benfit of the doubt IMO.

He's been through 1 rebuilding job and we become a very, very successful team. Isn't it possible he can do it again?