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Zekyl
07-13-2009, 03:17 PM
2010 Offseason
Expirings:
Bynum 870k
Oberto 2m
Kwame 4m
Total = $6.87 million

Increases:
Gordon ~ 1m.
Villanueva ~ 500k.
Rip – 1m
Tay – 1m
Stuckey – 1m
Daye, Summers, Jarebko, Washington ~ 1.5-2m total
Total = ~ $6 million


Needs:
Backup PG
Starting C
Backup C

That’s assuming Villa can play 30mpg at PF, Max proves he can be our backup PF and Summers/Jarebko can pick up the extra PF time.

Even if the cap doesn’t go down as expected, that leaves us with under $4 million to fill those 3 holes. Not a smart plan, gentlemen.


Big “What-If”s:
Trade Rip for an expiring – we would need SG depth (unless Stuckey splits his time, in which case we’d need to get serious about our backup PG).

Trade Prince for an expiring – we would need a starting SF. It’s highly unlikely that one of these rookies is going to step in and be our starter next year.

We wouldn’t have to worry about the traded player’s $1m increase, but the $10-14m expiring deal probably only nets us $7-8m in cap space after the cap decrease. We’re getting a starting C, backup C, backup PG, plus a starting SF or backup SG with $8?


Best Case Scenario-this offseason:
Pistons move Rip for a defensive-minded starting C that’s got a few years on his deal.


Other (Lesser) Scenarios-this offseason:
We move Tay for a C, we’re either starting Rip at SF or we’re trying to sign a SF with whatever cap space we have left. We’re not getting anything worth starting for $3-4 million.

We move Kwame for a C, the C would have to make under $7.6m. We’re not going to have any depth at C unless we can sign someone for the vet minimum that can still play some D. Ratliff? We could sign someone for the rest of our cap space before the trade in which case the C would have to make under $5m.

We move Max for a C, he would have to make under $8.6m. We’re going to be very thin at PF. If we used our cap space first, the C would have to make under $3.125m.

Glenn
07-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Very nice, Zekyl.

Kinda depressing, but impressive.

Glenn
07-13-2009, 03:21 PM
Also, I don't see us moving one of the two bigs we have left on the roster for a different big, that doesn't balance the roster.

Jethro34
07-13-2009, 03:23 PM
It all depends on what Joe does between now and, well, when? Obviously there will be at least one big man added, but how and who and what the length of their contract is all remains to be seen.

Stay tuned...

FWIW, I think Bynum should be resigned as the backup PG. Why not? He's impressive enough at times.

Zekyl
07-13-2009, 03:24 PM
Some other scenarios that could be thrown out are 2010 offseason scenarios, assuming we go into it when the contracts that we have now. Prince would be an expiring, Rip would have less left on his contract, which could make him easier to move, etc. I don't have time for that at the moment though.

Zekyl
07-13-2009, 03:24 PM
FWIW, I think Bynum should be resigned as the backup PG. Why not? He's impressive enough at times.
Agreed. If he proves himself this year, I think we'll keep him around unless Joe wants more of a distributor as a backup or he commands too much money.

Jethro34
07-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Also, I don't see us moving one of the two bigs we have left on the roster for a different big, that doesn't balance the roster.

Moving a big worthy of 10-15 minutes per game for a big worthy of 25-35 mpg makes it somewhat ok. The team is still screwed in the case of injury or foul trouble, but there's at least one justifying quality to it.

Glenn
07-13-2009, 03:25 PM
After seeing what Joe did with Sheed and AI's expirings, I'm not all that excited about seeing what he does with Tay's.

Zekyl
07-13-2009, 03:56 PM
With Sheed's expiring, Joe didn't do anything. He thought Sheed had enough in the tank for another title run, I guess.

Tay's will be a different situation. He's not planning on riding Tay to a championship in 2010-2011, so he'll either see Tay as a piece of the future and extend him, he'll trade his expiring contract for what he believes is a quality piece, or he'll just let him expire and part ways. I'd say it depends on what the new guys show this year.

It would be nice to have Tay around as a leader and a mentor for Daye (who said on multiple occasions that he loves Tay's game). Having Tayshaun around for Daye to compete with and learn from is not a bad thing by any means.

WTFchris
07-13-2009, 06:02 PM
Also, I don't see us moving one of the two bigs we have left on the roster for a different big, that doesn't balance the roster.

The roster is pretty thin now. I would think our best bet is to move RIP for a big and a backup wing (using our small amount of cap space left to absorb that extra contract).

micknugget
07-13-2009, 06:43 PM
Depending on how Stuckey progresses we may be in the need for a starting PG as well.

Pharaoh
07-15-2009, 05:42 AM
With Rip, Stuckey and Gordon on the books I'm guessing any other guards are gonna be cheap options.

Bynum? He's nice and all but if someone offers him a pretty good salary we'll have to let him walk. You can't continue to pony up decent cash for guards and expect to compete.

With Tay, Villa, Max and our rookies on the books I'm guessing the age old "internal improvement" excuse will be used.

Whatever big we sign this off-season is likely to be here and Kwame might be in line for a possible return, depending on his asking price.


Our MLE should be used on a big man.

I don't know who is gonna be available for that amount of money and since a lot of teams are gonna have actual cap space to use and will be far more patient than we were this off-season I don't have high hopes.

DrRay11
07-15-2009, 10:37 AM
"Outlook for a 2010 offseason focus"

What does that even mean?

Zekyl
07-15-2009, 10:40 AM
At the time, everyone was saying we were saving money to focus on the 2010 offseason. I did a terrible job of wording the title. Glenn, Pharaoh, or any other Syndicate can feel free to change it if he wants.

Glenn
07-15-2009, 02:25 PM
How about "Boobies"?

Zekyl
07-15-2009, 08:20 PM
Boobies works. Make it happen.

Uncle Mxy
07-15-2009, 09:37 PM
Fuck-a-Boobie.