Some sad commentary today...

http://twitter.com/CV31


Long day, did some house shopping more like browsing; its nuts the property u can get here 4 your $ - lots of former GM execs houses 4 sale.

Maybe he could buy CWebb's house.

Long day, did some house shopping more like browsing nice use of the English language; its nuts the again property u can get here 4 your $ - lots of former GM execs houses 4 sale.

Does it bother anyone else that a person like this is making over $5 million dollars next year? It's like he's in high school.

you haven't seen twitter before, have you?

It's all very rushed sentences.

Does it bother anyone else that a person like this is making over $5 million dollars next year? It's like he's in high school.
You have to use 140 characters or less, so people that use twitter often get used to typing like that. Get over it.

Fucking Clevelanders.

This is about as far as I delve into the social aspect of the internet. I have no use for twitter.

People are typing from cell phones as well.

I predict the English language will adapt. "4" and "u" will be formally recognized synonyms for "for" and "you" by the great dictionaries.

It wasn't until the advent of the Gutenberg press that the common spellings we recognize came into being. It was the typesetters of the day as much as the authors of the great texts of the day that determined spelling, often for reasons as pragmatic in their time as "typing u for you on cramped keyboards at cramped data rates" is today.

I have horrible grammar when writing, I am just a poor writer. I really respect a well constructed paragraph because I do not have the ability to do so without some effort. I can not stand post game interviews when the players use incorrect grammar, just comes across as lazy to me.

People are typing from cell phones as well.

I predict the English language will adapt. "4" and "u" will be formally recognized synonyms for "for" and "you" by the great dictionaries.


I just learned that with my new Crackberry. It's a pain in the arse, especially whilst driving on the highway on the way to/from work, too.

Props to CV for giving the fans an inside look at what happens when a NBA player signs to a new team. I would love to see a reality show showing players moving to and getting acclimated to new cities (and fans). I used to hear stories about ppl yelling stuff at Joey Harrington whenever they spotted him out and about.

People are typing from cell phones as well.

I predict the English language will adapt. "4" and "u" will be formally recognized synonyms for "for" and "you" by the great dictionaries.

It wasn't until the advent of the Gutenberg press that the common spellings we recognize came into being. It was the typesetters of the day as much as the authors of the great texts of the day that determined spelling, often for reasons as pragmatic in their time as "typing u for you on cramped keyboards at cramped data rates" is today.


Yup, I took a class on development of languages at GVSU, the prof was a bit of a hippie as she was determined to convince us that dictionaries have slowed growth of English more than illiteracy. Looking at how the language grew every couple generations hundreds of years ago vs. now is interesting.

DRay is the best poster here by far.

Some excellent research here.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090708/COL22/90708084/1051/SPORTS03/Charlie+Villanueva+could+work+out+if+he+s+given+th e+time


Villanueva played at least 30 minutes in 29 games last season. His averages in those 29 games: 23.1 points, 9.0 rebounds, 36 minutes. The rebound numbers especially impressed me, because when his team has the ball, Villanueva spends a lot of time on the perimeter, and it is hard to rebound from there.

By comparison: Toronto star Chris Bosh averaged 22.7 points and 10.0 rebounds in 38 minutes last season.

Nice stat on Charlie - but everything you post is favourable K.

I'd love to read 1 post from you that doesn't agree with every move the oganisation makes.

Of course, the reason he might have gotten those minutes was because he was playing well. So, in only 29 of 82 games was he playing well? ;)

Remember, he was given up for Amir Johnson and Luc Moute (who as near as I can tell is the second coming of Udonis Haslem). Hammond might have a better read on him than we do.

Remember, he was given up for Amir Johnson and Luc Moute (who as near as I can tell is the second coming of Udonis Haslem). Hammond might have a better read on him than we do.


And a significant bit of cash the Bucks didn't have. Let's be fair here.

$4.6 million qualifying offer vs. $3.6 million for Amir (who's the second coming of Gadzuric, thus far) -- money they DID have?

They didn't just get Amir for "New Village". They got Amir for Oberto ($4 million at the time, would have cost them $2 million to cut). It's almost like they're only paying Amir $1.6mil this year. So that was a $4.6 million QO compared to $1.6 million for Amir.

$4.6 million qualifying offer vs. $3.6 million for Amir (who's the second coming of Gadzuric, thus far) -- money they DID have?

Who the fuck cares about the qualifying offer? What are you saying here? He was going to take the offer?

He was "given up" due to the salary he would command, not some arbitrary figure they could attach to him to keep his rights long enough for us to make an offer they couldn't match.

Nice stat on Charlie - but everything you post is favourable K.

I'd love to read 1 post from you that doesn't agree with every move the oganisation makes.
You must have been missing the entire 2009 season...

It took me all of 2 months to see Joe had put together a shit team and everyone here said i was being TOO NEGATIVE. The fucking Free Press quoted me on it.

We were 8 games over .500 and a top-3 team in the east when I said we were going to finish below .500.

I swear some of you have memories of goldfish. God forbid you judge each post on its own merit. No, what I say can make perfect sense, but it's still somehow flawed because its me saying it, and I happen to not jump on whatever bandwagon the rest of the forum happens to be on right now.

The whole season I said this was a shit team led by a shit coach. You people said I was overreacting, we had a good record and everything would be fine.

Now, I'm saying Joe is doing a pretty good (albeit incomplete as of yet) job, made quality acquisitions, and now I'm the homer that buys in to whatever management says? Please.

Maybe, just maybe, I have a little better feel for this shit than some of you.

Solid point actually


(for a company man)

I need to figure out how to do white text on my phone

You must have been missing the entire 2009 season...

I did miss most of it, or do you have the memory of a goldfish?


It took me all of 2 months to see Joe had put together a shit team and everyone here said i was being TOO NEGATIVE. The fucking Free Press quoted me on it.

We were 8 games over .500 and a top-3 team in the east when I said we were going to finish below .500.

I was absent when you were TOO NEGATIVE (no need to scream).


I swear some of you have memories of goldfish. God forbid you judge each post on its own merit. No, what I say can make perfect sense, but it's still somehow flawed because its me saying it, and I happen to not jump on whatever bandwagon the rest of the forum happens to be on right now.

The whole season I said this was a shit team led by a shit coach. You people said I was overreacting, we had a good record and everything would be fine.

Dude, you're preaching to The Preacher.

You think I got that tag because I followed the crowd? I'm the dude that got the Rip for Stackhouse deal right. I'm the dude that was pushing for a Sheed trade. That wanted Frank Williams or Dan Dickau and not Prince. That wanted Monta Ellis or CJ Miles and not Maxiell. I fucking told Joe to get Juan Dixon - 3 years before he did it.

And I'm the guy putting Joe's Draft record under the microscope every chance I get because it's insane that the intelligent fuckers on this site can't see the cold hard facts.

You say we had a shit team. I say we had 2 guys that barely cared and a Coach that made that problem worse. Sheed has always been one that picks and chooses his spots. It's just last season he chose less spots than before.

And if anyone is gonna try and tell me Iverson always played half assed they can get fucked. You're talking about Iverson - aka "In the future playing hurt will be known as Answering"

And he quit on this team? Yeah - cause Dice, Sheed, Rip and Tay deserved that! Cause Iverson has no respect for them or Joe!

Or maybe cause Michael Curry was the dumbest motherfucker walking the sidelines, including that retarded kid I saw with popcorn during a Bucks game.



Now, I'm saying Joe is doing a pretty good (albeit incomplete as of yet) job, made quality acquisitions, and now I'm the homer that buys in to whatever management says? Please.

Maybe, just maybe, I have a little better feel for this shit than some of you.

Joe did what he wanted - doesn't mean I agree with it. I do understand it. I'm just someone that would rather contend every season or be really crap. No point being Mr. Inbetween. And so far these moves don't make us better - they just make us different.

And in 2 years time they might be great - but what about next season? If only Joe could Draft we wouldn't have this problem. If only Joe didn't jump right in and grab Ben Gordon we wouldn't have this problem.

Like I said - I understand where he's coming from. Doesn't mean I agree with it. You might agree with it and that's cool.

Just don't try to be a salesman for the organisation and attempt to put a positive spin on being a fucking mediocre team for the next 2 years.

And so far these moves don't make us better - they just make us different.

Which is exactly why we need to wait and see what happens the rest of the offseason. These moves make us better than we were last season with AI and Sheed, but not better than we were before the AI trade.

I think the only thing we can judge Dumars on so far this offseason is overpaying Gordon. When no other teams were going to offer him $50mil, we gave him between $55-58mil? The only teams that could have made a move for him were Chicago, OKC, Memphis and us. Chicago didn't have any interest in paying him $50mil when they have Rose, Hinrich, Salmons. OKC and Memphis weren't going after him. We overpaid, plain and simple.

The Austin Daye pick will have to wait a few years to be judged. If he can put on some muscle and we actually develop his game, fantastic. Otherwise, that will be a bad pick.

We overpaid, plain and simple.




You'll admit that we had to pay more than Chi. to get him to a less talented team already featuring an all-star SG, right? That a 50 mil offer would have been shot down.

Not that I would have given it to him, because I don't want him, but if you are Joe and you do, that he paid him the right amount to get him, right?

I still say we're moving Rip and Gordon knows that. He's coming to a less talented team, but he's coming here with one of his college guys (that's why they brought in for visits together) and he's going to be the star of the team. In Chicago, Rose would have always been the star with Gordon playing second fiddle.
So in all reality, he's coming to a situation where he's got a friend on the team and he's the big dog. We should have been able to offer him $52-53 instead of $58 and most likely still gotten everything nailed down just as quickly. I wasn't there so I don't know how the negotiations went, though.

All I know is that this guy had better have a damn good work ethic to keep developing and growing like he has been. Maybe he's so used to being on crappy Chicago teams that he's had to be a shooter and he can shake that mentality. Remember, before last year they were always just young teams with raw talent. They're "post game" consisted of Ben Wallace and the undeveloped Ty Thomas. It was just Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, and crap.

Man, I really hope that's the case.

Quality post Hermy.

Quality reply Z.

Good to see we have so many intelligent posters here...

Mow, about Joe and the Draft :)

So in all reality, he's coming to a situation where he's got a friend on the team and he's the big dog. We should have been able to offer him $52-53 instead of $58 and most likely still gotten everything nailed down just as quickly. I wasn't there so I don't know how the negotiations went, though.



Yeah, I understand. I just have trouble getting upset when I don't know if that's the case.

Agreed. That's why I double-clutched on the reply and added that last line. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

He says he's going to take 31 questions right now from his followers, so fire away.

Someone ask him what's going on at C? Who are they going to get to start next to him, because it better not be anyone on the roster right now.

This guy got more attention than he deserved.

We early adopters typically do.

WTFDetroit (http://twitter.com/WTFDetroit)
Will be easy money, with you being so soft and all. RT @CV31 (http://twitter.com/CV31): I need a massage, need to find someone Michigan, can someone help me?

BOOM!!!!!!

Me-esque.

I hesitated. But it just felt right.

I don't know why trolling on twitter is so much more fun than trolling on message boards ever was.

Maybe it's just the ability to be able to troll "celebrities" rather than schmoes?

It's awesome when they're dumb enough to actually respond.

Unfortunately, I've gotten nothing.

^yes