Starring Lesnar and Mir until 7/11, so it seems.

Discuss? Insight?

Interim belts dont happen often, like k said, people train hard as fuck and shed alot of blood to become UFC champions. So interim belts arent a big deal, and even the interim belt had to be earned by Mir in a fight. Either unification bout will end the interim belt after july 11th.


Gutz shall be the Pharaoh of this thread... so he doesn't have to keep hijacking the Wrestling thread :)

I think Mir wins again. People can talk all they want about how Brock is working with a BJJ world champion, but unless you're a blue belt in BJJ skill-wise, you don't even have a prayer against defending a black belt's submissions.(And no, I'm not saying that every blue belt can even do it. It's just the minimum starting point.)

Can Mir get Brock into those submission moves?

Lesnar is a huge dude - he's not gonna be easy to get to the mat and work over. And being within arms reach of him is always gonna be dangerous cause he's so powerful and his wrestling skills are so good he could end up countering your submission into one of his own.

People forget "fake" pro wrestlers spend a lot of time working through matches, coming up with different counters to holds so that it looks new and/or cool. Lesnar's experience in pro wrestling certainly helps him in MMA.

Mir already tapped him once. The thing is, you can't defend submissions until you learn how to do them first. Brock has to get to at least a blue belt level in brazilian jiu jitsu before he has a chance at stopping the submissions of a world class submission artist like Mir. Lesnar beat Couture because he was so much bigger and stronger than him and they both had wrestling as their strength. Mir is technically better than Lesnar at everything except for wrestling. And he's not a small guy either. Sorry, in the UFC strength doesn't mean shit unless you're way bigger than the other guy. (Lesnar outweighs Couture by a good 50 pounds. He prob outweighs Mir by 10 or 15 max.

How many fights did Lesnar fight before Mir made him tap?

How did the fight go down (who dominated before the tap)?

How much have both improved since?

Lesnar took him down and spazzed while trying to finish. I'd say Mir's improvements are far greater than Lesnar's. He's developed his boxing a little bit and focused really hard on his wrestling and his power. Mir worked on his Boxing, Muay Thai, and even his BJJ(with Demian Maia). Unless Lesnar becomes more than a freakishly strong wrestler with marginal boxing, I don't see how he wins.

I think Lesnar gets him this time. He lost his focus the first time and he's pissed. No way he lets Mir get him again. Way too powerful and knows better than letting a guy get his leg like that.

St. Pierre will be the real show tomorrow night. Dude is sick.

By the way, Lesnar needs to be reminded that although he's huge and looks like the reincarnation of Brian Bosworth, it's never cool to get a penis sword tattooed all over your chest.

Joe Rogan said it best about him. If he had been born hundreds of years ago he would have been the dude on the biggest horse with the biggest sword leading psycho warriors into battle and dominating them. He was born to destroy people.

So, me thinks, Vince McMahon had a bigger penis than Lesnar?

Can Mir get Brock into those submission moves?

Lesnar is a huge dude -
quite the opposite. The bigger you are, the more susceptible you are to Brazilian Jujitsu(which is what Mir is a black belt in). Brock comes out wild throwing his weight around, and he'll fuck up. If he fights a smart fight, he wins.

Brock wins.

Mir's jujitsu ended up costing him the match.

Lesnar dominated Mir. Not even close.

Lesnar with the worst post-match interview of all time. Horseshoe out of the ass? Coors Lite? Get on my wife? Classic.

Best part of the night, however, was Henderson rocking the crap out of Bisping, then admitting he knew he was out when he slammed him again "to shut him up a little more".

GSP dominant but would have liked to see it end sooner. I wanted to see at least one of the prelims to catch the fight that left the mat so bloody.

The Lesnar fight was pathetic. I mean he didn't even use any skill to win, outside of his takedowns. He just used brute strength to pin Mir down to where he couldn't move and then started hitting him in the face. Good for UFC ratings, bad for the development of MMA. Now we're gonna get all kinds of weightlifting douchebags at the MMA gyms trying to be Brock Lesnar.

And most of them will get their butts kicked. Yeah, he's a brute, but you don't take down Mir like that without at least some skill. Mir's too good for that, as you saw from their first fight.

Kdawg I don't think you give Lesnar enough credit.

I don't think there are many dudes on the planet that can do what he can do. He's athletic, huge, strong, quick, "mobile, agile, hostile". The guy has got it all.

The guy is just a total beast and once he gets you down you better tap or start praying.

I can't help but wonder how Kurt Angle would have done in UFC/MMA competition if it was the "Next Big Thing" after he won Gold in 1996...

Not many guys can win a Gold medal with a broken neck and his pro wrestling career speaks for itself ... and so do the 6 broken necks! The guy will just push and push himself until he literally snaps.

Just saw everything...

that GSP match was tooo long and that outcome was obvious after round 3.

Brock just killed mir...

Just saw everything...

that GSP match was tooo long and that outcome was obvious after round 3.

Brock just killed mir...

Is there a link, or did you record it.

it was on TV..

Was this a pay per view or something?

Korea shows alot of ppv, especially for WWE so im guessing theyd show ppvs for ufc.

I just started watching ufc after playing alot of it on 360...was more of a k-1 fan.

I think it's funny that Skip Bayless says Lesnar is playing a villain role no different than the one he played in the WWE when it's obvious that he himself is playing the role of heel for the World Wide Leader (because there's no way in hell he really believes half the shit he says).

Lesnar knows what he's doing.

Look at every UFC fighter - not good or bad but all "the same"

Fans cheer for them all, respect them all and want to see a good clean fight.

With Lesnar? He's trying to play the monster heel so people will pay tons of cash hoping to see someone beat him.

They way he's going he could have a long title reign, which means that if he keeps up his (mostly sane) shit the ppv buys could be huge down the line.

Pro wrestling is an entire industry built on mic work

Lesnar knows what he's doing.

Is he still banging Sable?

I think so.

I guess Rome interviewed Dan White the other day, I just caught the commentary after. Anyway, Dana was not pleased about Brock's antics post-match and let him know about it. I don't think Lesnar will make a habit out of dumb-ass comments like that. Dana White is not Vince McDouche.

Is he still banging Sable?

Damn, that bitch fuckin turns me on, or at least used to. I had to stop watching WWF because I'd stain the fuckin' couch whenever she was on.

Someone needs to post a few pics, the nuder the better. Giffman wants to take a walk down spank-a-vision memory lane.

^LOL

Brock apologized for his post game antics

shaq wants to fight brock lesnar


Where does one go after dunking on a 13-ton shark? What's the next step after defeating Damon Jones with a plastic knife and killer dance moves? Well, if you're Shaquille O'Neal(notes) you challenge the UFC heavyweight champion of the world.

UFC president Dana White joined "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" to discuss UFC 100's impressive ratings, the possibility of a Brock Lesnar-Fedor Emelianenko match, and the desire of The Big Diesel/Witness/Twitter to step inside the octagon with the Coors Light-drinkin' champ. Sports Radio Interviews transcribes the gold:

"Shaq texts and Twitters me all the time saying he wants to fight Brock Lesnar. He's been training for 10 years; Shaq's probably the only dude in the NBA that can actually fight ... I told Shaq, I said listen, 'Win another NBA championship this year and then we'll talk next year.'"

White's right; Shaq's yearning to get in the cage is nothing new. He's been training with Jonathan Burke of Gracie's Gym for 10 years now, where he does the full gamut of MMA, boxing, jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai and wrestling. Cagewriter spoke with Burke in May who said that O'Neal "works his tail off" during drills and "has way more talent with this stuff than people would imagine." And again, he dunked on a freakin' shark!

It's a long shot to ever happen, but Shaq vs. Brock ... I would pay good money to see that

Lesnar is a douche. I also don't agree with all the hype of him being the greatest thing since sliced bread. He doesn't suck, don't get me wrong... but outside of brute strength he doesn't have any well-honed skills other than wrestling. He beat Mir, who hasn't impressed me in years. Sure he looked good doing it, but it was Mir. Fedor would probably make short work of him. Cro Cop could end it with one kick (though that's not saying much, because that could be said about anyone). What makes me a little more fed up is people are saying the next fight for him (if not Fedor) will be Nog or Couture. I think both of those guys are a little too past their prime to handle Lesnar, so the hype machine would just keep growing.

Rickson has mentioned coming out of retirement recently. That would be an interesting fight.

MMA News: Gina Carano is still really hot.

I find it amazing that you guys can't see what Dana White is doing with Lesnar and the UFC in general.

MMA is a brutal sport and is not "widely accpeted". Having a bunch of "real fighters" isn't gonna bring in the big bucks. People need to connect with a fighter, to be emotionally invested.

Brock Lesnar brings that, which is why he'll be fed a steady diet of crap until he is actually ready to take on a guy like Fedor.

In the mean time Lesnar will continue to cut heel promos and White will complain about his conduct. Secretly White is laughing his ass off and the fact he doesn't fine Lesnar at all tells you he's not really upset.

Both of them are making big bucks on the back of Lesnar's heel antics so don't expect them to stop anytime soon.

I find it amazing that you guys can't see what Dana White is doing with Lesnar and the UFC in general.

MMA is a brutal sport and is not "widely accpeted". Having a bunch of "real fighters" isn't gonna bring in the big bucks. People need to connect with a fighter, to be emotionally invested.

Brock Lesnar brings that, which is why he'll be fed a steady diet of crap until he is actually ready to take on a guy like Fedor.

In the mean time Lesnar will continue to cut heel promos and White will complain about his conduct. Secretly White is laughing his ass off and the fact he doesn't fine Lesnar at all tells you he's not really upset.

Both of them are making big bucks on the back of Lesnar's heel antics so don't expect them to stop anytime soon.

OK, you may be right. But I still want to see his wife naked . . .

She was in Playboy at least once, giffy.

Surely you can find the pics?

UFC 101 is Florian vs. Penn. Should be a decent card. Anderson Silva fights Forrest Griffin.

It's not worth 45 bucks though. Maybe 25-30.

anyone catch it? fuck it was on tv but i was out

Any new developments in MMA or does the entire game revolve around it's #1 heel, the "Next Big Thing" Brock Lesnar?

I read a blog by Paul Heyman that explained the whole MMA heel thing much better than I did. I just lost the link...

Search google for Heyman blog or something.

History Lesson: MMA is the father of pro wrestling! Back in the very early 1900's dudes used to "shoot" fight aka have real fights. 2 smart dudes eventually realised that fans wanted to see a "real" rivalry and they got together and "worked" the crowd.

The 2 smart shooters ended up having a 3 match series and naturally they got paid big money because plenty of people turned up to see the Final Showdown.

And this is why pro wrestling exists today. The smart guys realised you could "work" the crowd without killing yourself and still make big bucks.

I bet some MMA guys wish their sport was a work. I've seen some freaky fucking injuries on youtube.

The funny thing is that within the MMA community, most of the hardcore fans couldn't give s shit about Brock Lesnar. He may be the UFC champion but nobody cares lol. People love watching the exciting fighters like Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, GSP, etc. Lesnar can keep playing his little heel role all he wants because all it's gonna do is get wrestling fans to watch MMA.

UFC 102 is a ppv worth seeing. It's legend vs. legend.Couture vs. Nogueira. To analogize it, it's kinda like HBK vs. Flair. Two of the GREAT fighters of the last decade facing off. Although, I would honestly rather see Couture at light heavyweight. He would be a very good test for Anderson Silva I think because he's got the same basic style as Henderson but with better gameplans, better submissions, and more technical striking.

Finally caught the Silva / Griffin fight. Wow. Silva was literally toying with him. He had his hands down, stuck his chin out, and Grif still could not hit him. That was some Ali shit right there.

The funny thing is that within the MMA community, most of the hardcore fans couldn't give a shit about Brock Lesnar. He may be the UFC champion but nobody cares lol. People love watching the exciting fighters like Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, GSP, etc. Lesnar can keep playing his little heel role all he wants because all it's gonna do is get wrestling fans to watch MMA.

Hardcore fans are not who UFC is trying to reach. They've already reached those guys and converted them. For the UFC it's all about the casual fans.

The casual fans that push UFC over 1 million PPV buys so often are not watching for sportsmanship, bland presentation or bland interviews.

The casual fan is watching to see some fucking carnage. Brock Lesnar gives it to them and then cuts a killing promo after the fact. He is the Man in MMA and he has the crowd wanting to see him get his head kicked in. He's the premier attraction in the UFC even if Silva, Machida, Penn and GSP are "better".

It doesn't really matter who is the "better" fighter - it's about making money! Brock wants to make a lot of coin and so does Dana White. Right now WWE is losing fans left and right and all their financial reports point to a massive downturn. But the UFC keeps rolling right along, as if the economy is thriving.

Like it or not Brock Lesnar as UFC Champion gets UFC a lot of publicity. The fact he's a former WWE Champ helps. His college resume helps. The way he works helps.

In short - Brock Lesnar is THE attraction in MMA right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if some other fighters started to cut heel promos on their opponents. It's the way to go. People will pay money hoping to see you get your ass kicked.

Actually, the whole MMA world thinks Lesnar is a fucking joke. All Brock Lesnar has done for MMA has brought the wrestling world's biggest douche bags to bars, MMA events, and MMA gyms. These are the fans Dana White and the UFC didn't want to attract. MMA companies like the UFC don't want aren't trying to attract the occasional wrestling fan who expects to see a stone cold stunner or a people's elbow inside the cage. They want to be as unassociated with "professional wrestling" as possible.

"I try not to schedule fights the week I'll be on my period. Making weight is hard enough and during our period, we may retain around seven pounds of water weight. Plus bruises hurt more, you're bloated and cramping and emotionally, it's tougher to battle through the training." -- Gina Carano to lucky ESPN The Magazine journalist Ryan Hockensmith.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4399063&name=mma#red_ink

LOL.

Chuck Liddell on Dancing With The Stars!!!! This shits gonna be next level. Those judges are gonna be shitting their panties when it comes time to score his moves.

Kdawg: Welcome to an essay...

Dana White and his business partners don't think Lesnar is a fucking joke. They KNOW he's the golden goose!

While Raw was on commercial last week did anyone switch and watch the UFC show on Spike? I know plenty of people did. The ratings prove it. And that was the plan - using Lesnar's name and past wrestling success to get new fans. And those are fans tired of Raw being shit.

And Dana certainly wanted to attract pro wrestling fans - he was extremely smart, unlike Vince McMahon during the 1990's. See, WWF went through the major boom of the mid-1980's, hooked a ton of kids on their product and then maintained the status quo.

For the next fucking 10 years!!!

McMahon didn't realise this at the time but I bet in hindsight he's kicking himself. That 10 year old grew up and got sick of the cartoon wrestling. Paul Heyman knew that - which is why ECW was rising until WCW and WWE took his ideas and did them on a much bigger sclae (and budget).

Now where is this going?

Vince won the wrestling war, went corporate and has toned down the shows to a large extent. We're moving back to the cartoon shit. The kids that were 10-16 when the Attitude Era hit are now in their late 20's and quite simply - WWE doesn't do it for them.

The wrestling fans that were kids in the 1980's? Some are still around - but they're now over 35 years old. Still the target demographic and likely sick and tired of WWE being shit/TNA shooting itself in the foot.

TNA has failed to capitalise on Vince's latest stupidity but Dana White was paying attention back in the mid 1990's and he's doing an Eric Bischoff all over Vince McMahon.

White took Lesnar and pushed him to the moon. Lesnar didn't deserve his title shot - but he got one because White saw dollar signs, serious dollar signs.

You see, back in the day when Monday Nitro and WWE Raw went head to head the combined wrestling rating was approx 9.0!!! Obviously many of those fans don't watch anymore.

What are they watching?

Not all of them are watching or spending money on UFC/MMA - but a lot of them probably are. When WWE claims MMA attracts a "different" audience than they do ("UFC is sport, we're entertainment") they're not really lying. A lot of the fans MMA/UFC attract are former wrestling fans that have given up watching WWE cause it sucks.

There might be market research to dispute that claim or even back it up, I'm not sure. What I am sure of is that all those millions of people that used to watch Nitro and Raw no longer do. They watch something else.

And it is my belief that a person that gets hooked on wrestling and watches it long term (WCW beat Raw for 83 weeks in a row while the numbers were huge) isn't all of a sudden gonna switch off and stick to movies or sitcoms.

Those people wanna see conflict. They wanna see the "fight". UFC got hot long before Lesnar came in - I'm not disputing that. And I'm not saying he's the best fighter or the ONLY guy bringing in viewers.

What I am saying is that when Lesnar is on PPV or on TV Dana White has a way in to all those disenfranchised wrestling fans that are sick of bullshit stories, sick of fake looking fights and sick of all the lame promos.

White is showing them what wrestling used to be way back when. And people are eating it up. UFC pay per views are killing it in the US domestic market while WWE's buyrates have fallen by over 10%!!!

UFC has hit over 1 million buys in the domestic market at least 3 times in the past year. WWE can barely hit 1 million worldwide for Mania!

UFC is huge. Lesnar is bringing in a big audience. Other dudes in UFC are too. Good for all of them. And someone needs to praise Dana White and his crew cause they are kicking ass.

They're also providing hope to long time wrestling fans who wish that TNA or WWE would wake the fuck up and book the shows in a much more realistic way. With UFC kicking ass and Smackdown the far superior wrestling tv show one would thin TNA heads and Vince would see what the fuck is going on...

Actually, the whole MMA world thinks Lesnar is a fucking joke. All Brock Lesnar has done for MMA has brought the wrestling world's biggest douche bags to bars, MMA events, and MMA gyms. These are the fans Dana White and the UFC didn't want to attract. MMA companies like the UFC don't want aren't trying to attract the occasional wrestling fan who expects to see a stone cold stunner or a people's elbow inside the cage. They want to be as unassociated with "professional wrestling" as possible.

Really? That's weird because Lesnar has been continously beating the shit out of the best fighters in his division. I hate him as much as the next guy but I can clearly see that the MMA world doesn't think he's a "fucking joke".

And I'm sure Dana White is really bummed about the hundreds of thousands of subscriptions that Brock Lesnar has added to his PPVs.

Really? That's weird because Lesnar has been continously beating the shit out of the best fighters in his division. I hate him as much as the next guy but I can clearly see that the MMA world doesn't think he's a "fucking joke".

And I'm sure Dana White is really bummed about the hundreds of thousands of subscriptions that Brock Lesnar has added to his PPVs.


Lesnar is beating them using power and brute force, rather than skill. After the Mir fight, quite a few pro fighters came out and expressed concerns about pro wrestling guys coming in and hurting the credibility of the sport. MMA has always been about technique and skill being able to overcome strength advantages. Lesnar disproved it in the Mir fight. The only technique he used was his takedowns. Everything else was just brute force pinning Mir down and punching him. If the MMA world doesn't think he's a joke, then I dunno what you would call the fans on sherdog and mixed martial arts.com, as well as writers for mmanews.com and five ounces of pain. Thats as close to the MMA world as you can get. When people like that are bashing the guy regularly, I don't think we can say the MMA world takes him seriously.

Pharaoh, Lesnar might have huge PPV buys but he's not exactly creating a new fan base for MMA with wrestling fans unless they're watching more than just the Lesnar ppv's. If the other events aren't attracting those fans, then Lesnar is nothing more than a get rich quick scheme that Dana White will exploit. And as of now, that is the case.

That's a bunch of bullshit. He's beating the hell out of guys. It's called mixed martial arts, you can't knock the guy because he's fluent in wrestling and GnP and strong.

It's just dumb that he gets to fight guys who weigh 30-50 pounds less than him and just pin them down and hit them. The weight difference between Lesnar and Mir on fight night was over 30 pounds(could have been as high as 50, depending on how much weight Brock gained by re-hydrating). That's like BJ Penn going in to try to fight a Dan Henderson or Nate Marquardt. It just kind of defeats the point of weight classes. They need to get Lesnar out of the 265 weight class and make him fight at super heavyweight or they should lower the heavyweight limit to at least make it competitive. There's nothing exciting about a dude with a penis tattooed on his chest taking someone down, pinning them down using nothing but brute strength, and hitting them. Sorry, that's not MMA. It's a joke. That's why everyone thinks pro wrestling is bullshit now because it's all these giant roided out dudes beating up on littler guys(except wrestling isn't real fighting).

Kdawg: It sounds like you're more upset about the way Lesnar fights than anything else he does.

Obviously no one wants to see some giant beat up a little dude (like if Khali destroyed Evan Bourne for example) and weight classes are supposed to help the MMA avoid the mis-matches.

However, rules are rules and if Lesnar qualifies at a certain weight then he gets to fight at that weight. Surely Lesnar is not the only guy barely making weight and then "re-hydrating" after the weigh-in?


Lesnar might have huge PPV buys but he's not exactly creating a new fan base for MMA with wrestling fans unless they're watching more than just the Lesnar ppv's. If the other events aren't attracting those fans, then Lesnar is nothing more than a get rich quick scheme that Dana White will exploit. And as of now, that is the case.

Is that the case, kdwag?

Are you sure?

Where are you getting your buyrate numbers from?

Since UFC is not a publicly traded company they don't have to report PPV buys (unlike WWE). However it is generally accepted that UFC 100 did more than 1.5 million buys!!!

That's not a typo.

The reason everyone thinks (knows) it did more than 1.5 million is because Dana White stated he would bungee jump off Mandalay Bay Casino if the buys were that high. UFC owner Lorenzo Fertitta has since claimed that White will have to "base jump" off the Casino!

Obviously UFC 100 was headlined by Lesnar v Mir but what about UFC 92? I think Griffin v Evans and Mir v Nogueira headlined the card and apparently it drew somewhere close to 1 million buys.

UFC 91 with Lesnar v Couture is verified at 920,000 buys

UFC 94 with Penn v St. Pierre 2 was over the million mark again!

So, 2 shows headlined with Lesnar got near or over the million mark and 2 shows he wasn't on also got close to or over the million mark too.

Conclusion: The PPV buys are not all about Lesnar. It's about the UFC promoting the big fights well and their fans (new and old) paying to see them.

FWIW, UFC 93 was a UK based event, always suicide for ppv due to the time difference. Slammed between 2 major shows and airing live in the afternoon didn't help the buyrate either. It was tracking at 320,000 buys back in February, which is amazing when you consider that WWE's Royal Rumble will be lucky to exceed that number despite it being the official start on the "Road to Wrestlemania".

BTW, the reason people hate wrestling now isn't because of the roided up freaks. That's been happening for years.

It's the same old, same old main events.

Cena, Triple H, Orton, Batista, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker and Edge have all been main eventing WWE for the last 3-5 years.

Some like Taker, Michaels and HHH have been in the spotlight for a decade or more!

Yet a guy like MVP or Christian or Jack Swagger can't make it into the mix? Or Evan Bourne? All those guys are "over" and with the right story could be pushed into the main event.

Put none of those guys are on Smackdown - where they know Taker is a part timer and they need to build/elevate new stars. Like Punk and Morrison.

(And notice how Morrison and Punk got over? Via Jeff Hardy - not a real legit Main Event Player like Michaels or Cena or Orton)

Once those SD guys are considered legit main eventers they will move to Raw, where Triple H and his veteran buddies will destroy them while Smackdown rebuilds Swagger and Christian and MVP and Bourne.

Then we'll switch them back and repeat the cycle again. It's fucked.

At least TNA is bat shit crazy. You can laugh at their stupidity at times but you can also be thankful they have different stars like Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Hernandez, Eric Young and Matt Morgan, who aren't over-exposed.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/history-ufc-ppv-buyrates-ufc-33-ufc-100-a-1036536/

Here's a link on sherdog of the buyrates. I didn't check every single one, but I googled UFC 85 through 100 and the liddell-ortiz one and they're accurate. A couple of the events(UFC 91) there was confusion among the links I found about the real numbers.

UFC 92, the supposed best card to date in UFC history (Forrest-Rashad, Rampag-Wanderlei, Nog-Mir). Brock Lesnar has yet to be on a ppv with less than a 625k buyrate. And thats with events like UFC 91 that had awful cards surrounding the main attraction. That's more than UFC 79, the event that featured Liddell-Wanderlei. Outside of super stacked cards, Lesnar's events are the top selling.


But again, UFC needs to develop the sport, rather than trying to become like pro wrestling. They became mainstream because they avoided taking the same route as WWE and the pro wrestling industry. The UFC and other MMA companies are gonna die off once the cash cow Lesnar retires unless they can develop a fan base who will put up consistently high buyrates, even when they can't completely stack the shit out of an event.

Pharaoh, to be fair, all of the GSP fights sell high because it's one of the few things Canadians have going for them.

Why does it always come back to blaming the Canadians?

I don't know, but I will mention that Celine Dion is an atrocity.

I think you're right on with the GSP thing. Canadians tend to get a little carried away with their sports. And, interestingly enough, Rich Franklin as a main event fighter doesn't sell very well.

UFC 56: Franklin vs. Quarry $200,000
UFC 58: Franklin vs. Loiseau $290,000
UFC 64: Franklin vs. A. Silva $300,000
UFC 72: Franklin vs. Okami $200,000
UFC 77: Franklin vs. A. Silva II $325,000
UFC 93: Franklin vs. Henderson $320,000
UFC 99: Franklin vs. W. Silva $360,000

And now he's headlining UFC 103. Rich is my favorite fighter, but if his buy rates are that low, then even I wouldn't use him as a main attraction. Just a hunch, but I'm thinking that 103 probably won't break 500k.

Herschel Walker to become pro MMA fighter for Strikeforce. Incredible athlete, great shape, 5th degree black belt Tae Kwon Do. But he's 47

http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-fighters-who-lied-their-way-to-legendary/

That Overeem guy tested positive for elevated testosterone and Dana White, tool extraordinaire, is obviously livid (understandably so).

That's all I've got.

I can't get into UFC/MMA at all, but fuck, even I kinda want to see this fight:


“Well first of all, Chael is a criminal, he's been convicted of crimes, he doesn't deserve to be in the Octagon and when the time comes and the time is right, I'm going to break his face, and break every one of his teeth in his mouth,” Silva unleashed as soon as the call started.

“Right now, I'm focused on what's going to happen in the next few weeks and right now the playtime is over. I'm going to beat Chael's ass like it's never been beat before. The joke is over, there's no more talking, I know he's on the line listening and the game's over. I'm going to beat his ass out of the UFC. He's never going to want to fight again after I'm done with him,” said Silva.

“It doesn't matter if I'm on the bottom, the side, the top, it doesn't matter – Chael Sonnen's going to get his ass kicked like he's never gotten his ass kicked before. What I'm going to do inside the Octagon is something that's going to change the image of the sport. I'm going to beat his ass like he's never been beaten before. I'm going to make sure that every one of his teeth are broken, his arms are broke, his legs are broke, he's not going to be able to walk out of the Octagon by himself. I can guarantee that.”

“I'm just going to make him pay and make him eat everything that he's said, not only about myself, but about our country, about everything. I'm going to make him pay and make sure that he never disrespects any Brazilian, any fighter. I’m going to beat him maybe the way his parents should have beat him to maybe teach him some manners because he's disrespectful, he's a criminal, and I'm going to beat him up like he's never been beat before,” Silva stated.

That's fresh.

Classic promo right there!

Whoa.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPdBUwA2GQg

#RIGGED

Not even an MMA guy, but that was a good fight.

Judge TBC is giving it to Diaz.

McGregor wins.

Judge TBC is giving it to Diaz.

Typo, sorry. Meant to say McGregor.

LOL @ CM Punk

Rick Glenn needs to change his name to Rick Glan.

McGregor's so good.

It's time for Rousey to retire from the UFC and do porn or something.

The fight's not great or anything once you get past the 2 fat guys novelty but cut to 13 minutes for terrible post fight interviews.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya7z-l68gcc

I'm still not going to pay for the McGregor-Mayweather fight because it'll be a huge waste of money, but the build up has been so funny.

Yeah, good showmanship. Not worth even $20. I feel like this is the shit that used to be on like Saturday Night Main Event not an actual world class boxing match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o7KPoS0HGs

Watch out, Rinaldo.

Millions of idiots will buy it.