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Kstat
06-26-2009, 01:05 PM
Hard to watch him play and not see a lot of Caron Butler in him. That said, there's a reason Butler was a top-10 pick, and Summers was a 2nd rounder.

I still see him as the most likely player to step in and play right away, among Joe's draftees. He's a 2-way forward that is gifted on either end. His downside is his effort level, which was a symptom of the entire Georgetown roster last season, so its hard to say if it was Summers himself or a tainted locker room atmosphere.

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Kstat
06-26-2009, 01:07 PM
BTW, someone please fix that thread title. I dont know what happened.

Glenn
06-26-2009, 01:09 PM
Your thread titles are funny.

Typically we go with "Everything you need to know about ..." but maybe not this year.

Kstat
06-26-2009, 01:13 PM
because nobody's happy this year, so i figured I'd switch things up a little.

Higherwarrior
06-26-2009, 06:27 PM
yeah i see some robinson, some ariza, some butler and a bit of horry in his game. i'm all over the place with this kid.

but i do like what he brings to the table. i think he's one of those guys who will flourish in the nba more so than in college. first off he's a worker and 2nd he will finally play his real position- SF instead of being forced to play PF.

i don't think he'll ever be a star but i think he can be a very solid player. and not too far down the road.

Hermy
06-26-2009, 06:30 PM
Nice athleticism, that set up and release on his J is Ug-lee. Guess we can work on that, right Amir.....Amir? Anyone seen Amir?

Higherwarrior
06-26-2009, 06:54 PM
seriously? i have no problem with it.

Hermy
06-26-2009, 07:05 PM
seriously? i have no problem with it.

The way he cranks his elbow, it looks slow. Seems like it would be tough to get off in traffic.

Higherwarrior
06-26-2009, 07:08 PM
he's got a nice high release. it's a bit deliberate but overall his form is quite nice. i think he'll be OK.

Zekyl
06-26-2009, 08:46 PM
If he's good enough to be a solid backup SF, he's good enough for me.

Pharaoh
06-26-2009, 11:52 PM
As long as he's reasonable.

Kstat
07-05-2009, 04:36 PM
Just found this from one of my favorite basketball sites.. A pre-draft run down of the top small forwards....


http://fiyastarter.com/blog/?p=2339


#1. DaJuan Summers
This is why I’m Linwood and the rest of people y’all been reading for draft analysis are not Linwood. This boy is the best player available at his position and I ain’t gonna let a mid-season TEAM collapse change my mind about him. Yeah, granted, it didn’t look good that he seemed to not give a shit once the team went into the tank, but so what? Sometimes, you gotta give a dude a pass. This is Jeff Green Jr. and he’s gonna make some GM look smart as hell. I hope it’s New Orleans.

#2 Austin Daye
He passes the look test for me. That’s really all it boils down to. He does everything well. Once he adds some muscle to his frame, he’s going to be an all-star caliber player. Between him, Harden, Mills, Calathes and Summers, people are going to regret saying this wasn’t a deep draft. It kinda is. Daye is going to shock people.

Joe Asberry
07-05-2009, 04:55 PM
its always the same, every summer i get exited about every dumb Pistons draft pick, and they almost always dissapoint, i would be happy if one of those guys can play in the rotation next year...so Summers seems like the one most ready, if he plays 15 min a game to back up Tay next season, thats would be nice

Pharaoh
07-06-2009, 06:07 AM
its always the same, every summer i get exited about every dumb Pistons draft pick, and they almost always dissapoint, i would be happy if one of those guys can play in the rotation next year...so Summers seems like the one most ready, if he plays 15 min a game to back up Tay next season, thats would be nice

Of course it's the same almost every year.

Joe can't Draft and it's proven.

Memo and Prince are his "finds".

White, Cleaves, Darko, Delfino, Maxiell are all failures.

We need to hope that Stuckey, AA, Daye, Jonas and Summers are better than his track record indicates.

BIG BEN'S FRO
07-06-2009, 09:41 AM
Just found this from one of my favorite basketball sites.. A pre-draft run down of the top small forwards....


http://fiyastarter.com/blog/?p=2339

KStat,

Thanks. That was an entertaining read. If it worked out like that, I would be very satisfied.

Also to contribute: Camby was also moved since they actually had depth at the C position with Nene and the Birdman.

BIG BEN'S FRO
07-06-2009, 09:49 AM
Actually I just took another look at that site. KStat, did you look at the 2008 and 2007 rankings? Actually he is quite accurate. Impressive really. Even called some second round guys. Maybe we could pay him instead of Ronzone. LOL at his comments about Jerebko, but even those not bad. I recommend everyone check this site out. It's an entertaining read and FYI, for the position rankings, check out July in 2008 and 2007.

MoTown
07-06-2009, 09:52 AM
Of course it's the same almost every year.

Joe can't Draft and it's proven.

Memo and Prince are his "finds".

White, Cleaves, Darko, Delfino, Maxiell are all failures.

We need to hope that Stuckey, AA, Daye, Jonas and Summers are better than his track record indicates.

You know what's funny about that list, though? All the players that the fans were "generally excited about" turned out to be disappointments:

White: I remember he was supposed to go early but fell to us at 9.
Mateen: He was an exciting pick, mostly because he had just led MSU to the NC.
Darko: Chad Fraud got us pretty excited about him.
Delfino: Another one that was supposed to go high but fell to us.

Then there's all the guys that a lot of people were against taking:
Tay: I was excited, but there were a lot of people who said he didn't have an NBA body.
J-Max: You said he was a failure, I say he's been a solid role player. (I hated the pick, btw).
Stuck and AA: Jury is still out, but pretty good for mid to late first round picks.


The point is, there is zero excitement about this years draft. Maybe history will indicate that's a good thing.

Pharaoh
07-06-2009, 09:54 AM
That dude didn't think much of Jonas.

Pharaoh
07-06-2009, 10:00 AM
And Mo:

I was against the Prince pick. I wanted Frank Williams or Dickau because we had Cleaves and Chucky at PG.

I will always believe (and said so at the time) that Maxiell was a failed pick, because David Lee kicks ass. And he kicked ass back then. Was great at the Chicago camp.

It's the same thing with Darko v Bosh. Forget all this Melo/Wade stuff. We went big because there was so much talent in all of them.

Someone needs to explain to me how the entire staff missed that Darko was a whiny bum while Bosh wasn't. I can understand them taking a big - it makes perfect sense.

But to miss on a guy like Bosh and get the failure that is Darko stings

WTFchris
07-06-2009, 10:18 AM
I admit I wanted Frank Williams too. Glad they didn't do that.

WTFchris
07-06-2009, 10:20 AM
I admit I wanted Frank Williams too. Glad they didn't do that.

I was right more times than wrong though. I wanted Joe Johnson over Rodney White. I wanted Bosh over Darko. Wasn't a fan of Max, but can't remember actually who I wanted (don't think it was Lee though at the time).

Glenn
07-06-2009, 10:22 AM
^See, this is why we do the "Draft re-do" threads!

WTFchris
07-06-2009, 10:25 AM
Just checked. I was hoping for Luther Head I think but he went a couple picks before that.

Instead we signed Tony Delk as our backup guard.

Glenn
07-06-2009, 10:48 AM
Came across this whilst browsing for NBA twitter feeds for the @WTFDetroit account...

https://twitter.com/dsummers35

Timone
07-06-2009, 11:02 AM
^ Maybe we can get him to post here!!!

Zekyl
07-06-2009, 12:43 PM
You keep classifying Delfino as a failed pick on JoeD, but I disagree. He came on strong right before that knee injury. He was a good pick that never really recovered. Just because a guy gets injured a few seasons into his career doesn't mean he was a black mark on the GMs resume, unless its an injury that was predicted (such as if Blair's knees give out in the next couple seasons).

The only problem I had with Delfino was that the coaches were trying to force him to be a SF when he was obviously a SG that could handle the ball quite a bit. Hell, he did it in the Olympics against Team USA and looked solid, but we didn't think he could do that for us?

Glenn
07-06-2009, 12:44 PM
I think that last paragraph is a fair assessment. I could never figure out why they were playing him at SF.

Fool
07-06-2009, 12:48 PM
You think Kwame is a SG.

Glenn
07-06-2009, 12:54 PM
Seems as though I (and others were) was right about Delfino being a SG after all. But yet, I'm dead wrong on Stuckey, eh?

You're blinded by your inability to even consider that I've (and others have) been right about this all along.

Stick to your guns, Sally.

Not even sure what that last part means, but it sounded good.

MoTown
07-06-2009, 01:00 PM
Not to rain on your fun, but in today's NBA, set positions are overrated. I'm not sure why they even label the positions any more.
[/pretentious MoTown]

Glenn
07-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Oh, you didn't rain on my fun, don't worry, Sally.

Um, yeah.

Fool
07-06-2009, 01:04 PM
We tried to make him a Bowen style SF. Playing D and shooting spot 3s from the wings/corners. He could have dribble penetrated to his hearts desire from the SF position as well as the SG position.

Also, we had your favorite NBA player as a backup 2 already.

Glenn
07-06-2009, 01:08 PM
Couldn't defend opposing 3's. Any of them.

Glenn
07-06-2009, 03:43 PM
RT


Girls who have that attitude swag and think its cute...please stop

lol

Zekyl
07-06-2009, 04:20 PM
What's this new "RT" gig?

Fool
07-06-2009, 04:25 PM
ReTweet.

Zekyl
07-06-2009, 04:29 PM
I guess I'm just not as hip and trendy as you cool cats. :(

DrRay11
07-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Considering Gl'enn has spent the entire day on Twitter...

Glenn
07-16-2009, 01:56 PM
Somebody needs to yank Summers' Twitter access.

Dude is terrible.

Also, did any of the local hacks write the "Summer's League" headline? If not, they should have, it's pretty low-hanging fruit.

DrRay11
07-16-2009, 02:29 PM
You could just stop following him, Glanny.

Glenn
07-16-2009, 02:31 PM
That's what I'm saying.

Have you read his stuff?

DrRay11
07-16-2009, 02:56 PM
yes, it's awful. no match for Langlois

Zekyl
07-18-2009, 11:07 AM
From that same NBA.com article. I didn't see this until the very end.

Biggest Mystery: DaJuan Summers -- A good athlete with an NBA body and solid perimeter shooting ability, the concerns about Summers' lack of mental and physical toughness will drop him much further in the draft than his talent suggests he should.
Here's to hoping that his 2nd round status will make him want to prove everyone wrong and we got a steal.

Black Dynamite
10-30-2009, 09:39 AM
Hard to watch him play and not see a lot of Caron Butler in him. That said, there's a reason Butler was a top-10 pick, and Summers was a 2nd rounder.

I still see him as the most likely player to step in and play right away, among Joe's draftees. He's a 2-way forward that is gifted on either end. His downside is his effort level, which was a symptom of the entire Georgetown roster last season, so its hard to say if it was Summers himself or a tainted locker room atmosphere.


Well I guess there's a reason college is different from the pros, Daye and Jerebko beat him out, ouch.

Depending on how much Kuester uses the three-guard lineup, Daye could backup Tayshaun Prince at small forward. Jerebko may see time at power forward or center while DaJuan Summers, the other rookie, failed to make enough of an impression in training camp to earn viable minutes.

Black Dynamite
10-30-2009, 09:40 AM
Here's to hoping that his 2nd round status will make him want to prove everyone wrong and we got a steal.
Or's he's content living up to it. Hopefully he'll improve down the line though.

Uncle Mxy
10-30-2009, 10:19 AM
My kingdom for a Blair...

Glenn
10-30-2009, 10:34 AM
My kingdom for a Blair...

JOE DIDN'T LIKE HIM, AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU

Kstat
10-30-2009, 10:50 AM
I did....

Black Dynamite
10-30-2009, 02:17 PM
I just noticed they called Summers the other rookie. Not nice at all.

Glenn
06-29-2011, 11:10 AM
As expected, g'bye.


Writing was kind of on the wall, but #Pistons aren't extending qualifying offer to DaJuan Summers. He will be unrestricted free agent.

Joe Asberry
06-29-2011, 11:14 AM
he could be back for the minimum, who knows, he wasnt really bad in limited minutes, but he didnt do anything special either, as long as we dont bringt back Ronald Dupree as backup SF i am fine :P
if DaJuan is smart, he signs with a team in europe, safe money, probably even more than the minimum in the nba, also he could prove himself one year, after the lockout he could try to make the nba again and contribute, not beeing the 14-15th guy on the roster

Glenn
06-29-2011, 11:33 AM
Agreed on all counts.

Fool
06-29-2011, 12:24 PM
FUCK ALL YOU SUPA DUPE HATTERS!

Plaid flannel shirts never went out of style in the black community!

lospistones
06-29-2011, 04:43 PM
Yeah, how could you not like super dupe?