Pop star Michael Jackson is reportedly rushed to hospital. His current condition is unknown

Soon to be recently dead?

Is he even still in the country?

Is he still a "pop star"? At what point does he become "former pop star"? (before death, I mean)

Pop star Michael Jackson is reportedly rushed to hospital. His current race is unknown


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Is he still a "pop star"? At what point does he become "former pop star"? (before death, I mean)

In my book you are former when you stop making music.

Dead. http://www.tmz.com/

If you subscribed to my twitter, you'd have already known this.

Mola's on that one.

I'm so current, I'm tomorrow. Thanks Twitter!

I'm following this on Fox News, of course.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-dies-death-dead-cardiac-arrest/

OMG

Not official until Fox News reports it.

Am I wrong if my neighbor screamed out her door "Michael Jackson just died", and I screamed back "who gives a fuck!" (no joke, I really just did that)

Am I wrong if my neighbor screamed out her door "Michael Jackson just died", and I screamed back "who gives a fuck!" (no joke, I really just did that)

(This space reserved for Zip's picture of a homeless guy screaming out of his cardboard box...)

Only because you should have thrown something at her as well.

I didn't realize he was 50. Anybody else?

http://www.walyou.com/img/michael-jackson-thriller-remake-acapella-5.jpg

This picture seems pertinent.
Too soon?

AP/CNN/LA Times all say he's in a coma BTW.

TMZ reports he's a goner.

TMZ is always right.

NBC says he is dead

Could be. CNN says all doors are blocked even from hospital workers.

Hey Denny, go ask your neighbor how she feels about Jon and Kate and then slam the door in her face when she starts talking.

NBC says he is dead

NBC is in sixth place out of four networks. Not a reliable source :)

Could be. CNN says all doors are blocked even from hospital workers.

Hey Denny, go ask your neighbor how she feels about Jon and Kate and then slam the door in her face when she starts talking.

She's prolly gonna send me one of those gay love and joy messages you can send to people on Facebook. I'm gonna attach a pic of a giant turd and send that shit right back.

Fox News confirmed it. Now it's official.

Really strange that I haven't been a fan of his for 17 years, but the part of me that was a huge fan when I was a kid is sad.

The definitive tragic American icon.

Holy shit. I SWEAR I'm not making this up.

My neighbor Diana just walked out of her apartment, sobbing and in tears.

The same one who screamed out her door earlier.

.....*

HE'S NOT FUCKING MOTHER THERESA.!!!!!!!!

Holy shit. I SWEAR I'm not making this up.

My neighbor Diana just walked out her door, sobbing and in tears.

HE'S NOT FUCKING MOTHER THERESA.!!!!!!!!

Good. It'd be gross if he was.

Fox News confirmed it. Now it's official.


That's all you needed to say. This thread is done

Probably one of the top 5 iconic moments I've ever seen. It was like Run DMC teaming up with Aerosmith.

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Sad.
Hey. Did the Dodgers win??

Really strange that I haven't been a fan of his for 17 years, but the part of me that was a huge fan when I was a kid is sad.

The definitive tragic American icon.

I was never really a fan. No doubt he was talented, just wasn't my type of music. I preferred hair bands and Aerosmith.

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I never liked Michael Jackson.

I'm not about to start now.

Why didn't we make a thread for Paul Harvey when he died?

Just making sure: I'm allowed to be sad, right? He was probably my favorite artist as a kid... most of his stuff is still good.

I'm not a fan at all, but if MoTown's sad then I'm sad as well.

Thriller was the first tape I ever owned.
On a similar note, Fat was the first tape I ever bought with my own money.

I'm not a fan at all, but if MoTown's sad then I'm sad as well.

BOTH MoTowns are sad right now (perhaps all three)

Of course, :our: MoTown is the only one that counts.

I was never really a fan. No doubt he was talented, just wasn't my type of music. I preferred hair bands and Aerosmith.

Were you upset when Bret Michaels got his shit ruined?

Just making sure: I'm allowed to be sad, right? He was probably my favorite artist as a kid... most of his stuff is still good.

Motown allows us, we don't allow Motown.

I was never truly a fan, though I feel Off The Wall was one of the best albums of the late 70's/early 80's, and still holds up well today.

MTV had better give him at least 48 straight hours of tribute coverage, perhaps a week. Jackson made that network!

Were you upset when Bret Michaels got his shit ruined?

Once again, LDB places things in perspective.

Well played.

I was never truly a fan, though I feel Off The Wall was one of the best albums of the late 70's/early 80's, and still holds up well today.

MTV had better give him at least 48 straight hours of tribute coverage, perhaps a week. Jackson made that network!

The complete Thriller would be nice.

Motown allows us, we don't allow Motown.

Gold.

BTW, the chick on the right in your sig is kind of cute.

For us older peeps, he was the star of the Jackson 5. I remember my dad and uncles watching him in awe (or whatever you call really old guys watching talent other than country singers) back in the 60s. He was special.

Its too bad he turned into such a friggin... whatever he turned into.

For us older peeps, he was the star of the Jackson 5. I remember my dad and uncles watching him in awe (or whatever you call really old guys watching talent other than country singers) back in the 60s. He was special.

Its too bad he turned into such a friggin... whatever he turned into.

EDIT - Don't want to ruffle any feathers.

Priests.

45 Don't even go there you fucking fucktardationnesstivety.

He could fuckin dance as a kid like James Brown. He was something, youngster.

The site is starting to blow up with guests. Can't say I didn't see that coming.

He could fuckin dance on a kid like James Brown. He was something, youngster.

Fixed.

45 Don't even go there you fucking fucktardationnesstivety.

He could fuckin dance as a kid like James Brown. He was something, youngster.

I tried posting that in gray, but for some reason the [Tahoe's hair color][/hair] tags didn't work.

He could fuckin dance around questions about touching kids like James Brown.
Fixed.

also yea he's an icon, pretty unchangeable status whether you "like" him or not. Sicko, weirdo, or whatever, he still earned his status and will always be an icon.

"as big as it gets"

i doubt we'll ever see an icon get bigger than michael jackson. i remember, even into the 90's, the local detroit news would broadcast his new videos. hes like eminem to detroit, but for the whole country.

i'd like to know what happens to the body. mummification? frozen? sent back to the mother ship? i have a feeling there'll be one or two urban legends surrounding that one.

im actually pretty bumbed about this. its like finally, the 80's are officially over.

(i am legitimately bummed though. joking about it is in poor taste).

I tried posting that in gray, but for some reason the [Tahoe's hair color][/hair] tags didn't work.

salt n pepper baby

edit...mostly salt, cept for the goatee

Lady Di esque

Shit. I've got an art opening on Sunday.

Now, everybody's gonna be all down in the dumps about this.

Couldn't he have waited until Monday?

Shit. I've got an art opening on Sunday.

Now, everybody's gonna be all down in the dumps about this.

Couldn't he have waited until Monday?

Art opening? Holy shit

Art opening? Holy shit

Yeah.. Surprised?

I want to say, Yeah, but truth is, no, not really. :)

Seriously, good luck!

Jermaine says Michael Jackson's "personal physician" was there when he underwent cardiac arrest.

What the fuck did he GIVE him? Maybe that's why the LAPD Homicide Division is handling it.

I knew the conspiracy theories will hit this.

He'd have been a lot better off if he did the cliche musican thing and died in a plane crash when thriller was topping the charts.

Shit. I've got an art opening on Sunday.

Now, everybody's gonna be all down in the dumps about this.

Couldn't he have waited until Monday?

Fucking Brown paintbrush rules!

Fucking Brown paintbrush rules!

I told Y'all Zip Owns!

I am really surprised by how sad this made me.

When I was in grade school, every kid worshiped him. I had Thriller on LP and listened to it over and over again when I was 9 years old. I listened to it 20 years later and I realized that it was one of those perfect pop albums - there's not a millisecond on that album that's wrong or out of place. It's like a summer blockbuster action movie, you know. No expense was spared, and every moment was meticulously pored over and reworked until it was perfect.

Were you upset when Bret Michaels got his shit ruined?

LOL, was never really a poison fan either. That was more for the ladies.

Lou Ferrigno deserves the chair for this. THE CHAIR.

Facebook quote from my emotional wreck neighbor:


I am saddened , shocked , and just really sad ...
I had the honor to work for my good friend Director/Choreographer Kenny Ortega on the Dangerous Tour with Michael Jackson in '92 touring Europe and making 'History!' Amazing Talent , Beautiful Soul and Big Heart! OMG!!!
All my love to KO and his family tonite and the wonderful dancers and band & MJ's family. What a loss. I just can't believe it...

Morphine overdose now being reported.

I love how the only mention of his "personal physician" is that he was the first person on hand to attempt to revive him. I'm thinking, Oh really? Because a guy who abuses prescription drugs would love to have a personal physician around.

You just sit around just talkin' nothing
You're takin' morphine
Hoo!
Go'on baby
You just sit around just talking about it
You're takin' morphine
Hoo-hoo!
Just sit around just talking nothing about it
You're takin' morphine
You just sit around just talking about it
You're taking morphine
You just sit around just talkin' nothin'
And takin' morphine

Hoo-hoo
I'm going down baby
You're talkin' Morphine

Go'on baby!
Hoo!
Hoo!
Morphine!
Do it!
Hoo!
He's takin' morphine
Morphine!
Morphine!

To be honest, we're kind of relieved about all of this.

RIP, T&P

Maureen Orth Recounts Michael's Drug Addiction, The Molestation Charges And Why He Would Have Wanted To Die Like This

Huffington Post | Katherine Thomson
First Posted: 06-26-09 12:50 PM | Updated: 06-26-09 01:37 PM

Vanity Fair scribe Maureen Orth covered Michael Jackson in depth when he was alive, and Friday morning during a lengthy segment on "Morning Joe" she talked about his death and in some of the frankest terms heard since the news of his passing.

Orth said, among other things, that his isolation was partially self-imposed and helped him play with boys, that his fame and money got him off of child molestation charges, that he suffered a crippling drug habit and that the publicity-seeking Jackson would have wanted to die as he did.

"I was wondering if it wasn't one last stunt in order to promote his concert tour," Orth said she had thought when she first heard news had he been taken to the hospital.

She said of Jackson's supposed drug use, "He had a terrific drug problem, starting when he checked himself into rehab to escape molestation charges in '94."

She later said she watched Jackson pop pills during the 2005 trial and that he was often "zombie-like."

"He was surrounded by sycophants," Orth continued, "He isolated himself so much, but honestly I think a lot of that isolation was self-imposed so he could play with little boys and do whatever he wants."

"His celebrity got him off the charges when he had that trial," Orth said of 2005. "As big a genius he was with music he was also that big a failure as a human being, in my opinion."

"I think this ending is great for Michael," Orth said when asked about his death and the outpouring of emotion and media blanketing. "He would have wanted to go out this way."

Orth is Tim Russert's widow, if you didn't know that already.

I'm with Swami and Tahoe: Saddened. I LOVED the Jackson 5. I remember Michael before he discovered chlorox skin treatments, plastic noses, and the emaciation diet. He would have fit right in with the cast of Friends as a roommate of the girls. Could have been Cortney Cox's long lost twin sister.

But all the hilarity aside--I can't say I'll miss him, just that it's a sad ending to a tragic story. Yeah, maybe one of his own doing--but in a lot of cases celebrity seems like a death sentence. And like any drug or winning the lottery, it can bring out whatever dark stuff lurks in your soul. Most of us have to hide that shit--our existences are precarious enough living paycheck to paycheck, our insecurities preclude us from even revealing who we really are--let alone going into our deepest layers of ourselves. We are pretty much beaten down by a world of conformity and anonymity.

But caysh in on a big payday or grow up in a culture of enabling, riches, hangers-on, and the big bucks to test the validity of every quirk or weird thought you ever had, and it can be "Katy Bar the Door"--and one day they find you in your closet with a noose around your neck and your hands firmly grapsing your dead cock. Or your body gives out from all the weirdo stuff you do to it--and you die too young. Or, maybe you just blow your head off because you're fucked up and you think giant killer dustbunnies eating your arms and legs. Who knows?

All in all, I still really, really hope I buy that winning Powerball ticket in one way or another and find myself with the kind of money to find out just what it's really like. And don't give me that "Work hard and save" bullshit. Fuck that. I don't want to work any harder than to have to press a button so someone can come wipe my ass after I take a shit.

its true what they say, everyone remembers exactly where they were when they heard michael jackson died.

Michael Jackson died a long time ago. Curiously, he got some white guy to stand in for him and marry Elvis's daughter, but that seems to have passed.

Something else interesting...

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/from-the-white-house-files-a-fight-over-michael-jackson/

What a cocksucker. But here is a letter that got through when Roberts was in Mississippi one day attending a cross burning:

Dear Mr. Michael Jackson:

"I want to rock with you because you are a Thrillah. But it's not easy as 1-2-3 do re mi because of this young republican racist faggot that I'd really like to tell "Hey! Go Beat it you asshat! Gourd, Micheal, do I hope this asshat never gets a public office or gets any power. He'll fuck everything up (pardon my French)"

Signed,
Ronald "Off the Motha-fuckin-WALL BOOOEEEE" Reagan
President of the United States

pyt was his best.

i like the call and answer portion of the song.

Just a guess, but it looks like Gl'enn isn't really feeling any remorse/anything about MJ biting the dust.

He was the shit back in the day and brought music forward light years, you friggin neanderthal.

He was also pretty much the guy who took electro-funk into the mainstream.

Just a guess, but it looks like Gl'enn isn't really feeling any remorse/anything about MJ biting the dust.

He was the shit back in the day and brought music forward light years, you friggin neanderthal.

No pedo.

He was acquitted.
*cough*

Was he acquitted or did he settle out of court?

Not saying he was 100% guilty but there is a big difference between 12 people saying you're innocent and millions of dollars being paid so your "victim" shuts up.

Still, at the end of the day the guy was awesome. His performances made every other musical artist step up and deliver bigger and better videos, concerts and all kinds of shit.

It's a sad day for many. Just cause I wasn't a fan doesn't mean I have to be a prick now that he's dead. He left his mark on the world.

Thoughts and prayers to his family and I hope none of his more "passionate" fans do anything stupid.

No pedo.

touche

dude was the shit back in the day though.

It's not like people are being a prick over a single misstep or scandal or just because he was a little eccentric. MJ's spent a solid twenty years shitting on his own legacy. Even a towering, singluar legacy like his suffers under that level of abuse.

shitting?

fame has its perks, but it also has its drawbacks.

first, look at how your typical child star pans out. that alone, is often a life ruiner.

then take the trappings of fame and spread it out over a lifetime.

then sprinkle a rather f'd up childhood (independant of fame) in which he himself probably was sexually abused by his own father, and the cards were stacked against michael from the start.

this guy is like the elephant man of this century.

but i have good news for those of us who do like his music:

per wikipedia:

"Less than four months before Jackson's death, one of his biographers, Ian Halperin, revealed that Jackson had a library of over 100 unreleased songs which he planned to have released after his death to support his children.[182]"

Yes, shitting. For all intents and purposes the MJ of legend, the one we remember from the Jacksons, Off The Wall, Thriller, Motown 25... died a long time ago. What happened this week was just the Bruce Willis-Sixth Sense moment of clarity.

Was he acquitted or did he settle out of court?
Yes. Two big pedo cases -- settled on the first, acquitted on the second.

" to support his children"

Seriously.

I'm casting a suspicious eye in the direction of Elizabeth Taylor. That bitch has outlived about 32 husbands, and she was the one who may have killed Richard Burton--I'm not buying that his liver finally gave out after spending 50 years drinking a fifth of scoth every day, no sir. He was British--or at least some form of it. Those guys can walk around with a liver and a set of lungs that would make a veteran West Virginia coal miner seem as healthy as Jack Lalane. They live on irony. They aren't angry people, which can motivate some to live for hundreds of years. Shakepseare taught them not to be angry--and what the fuck? They ACCEPT their human frailties, rather than railing on each other like a nation of hypocrites (COUGH AMERICA COUGH)--they gave up on morals LONG ago.
Irony--the British live on IRONY--it fuels them, and can do so long after their internal organs have been rendered useless (and in fact, poisonous) due to all the booze, smoking, pollution, and horrible food (I honestly think they use lard, cowshit, car exhaust, and rubber bands in every dish they make over there).

Anyway--refocus Zip--Liz Taylor has outlived them all. I suspected something long ago when she married the guy who redid her bathroom or something--and she lived to divorce him. I'm sure that fucker tried to kill her and get away with it. Poison. Fake suicide. Hammer upside the head. Push her off the roof of the house (just pretend she went up there to get the frisbee), probably shot her in the face (with a gun), made her listen to Bruce Springsteen albums, any assortment of things that would have killed your normal 800 year old bitch with a ton of money. I guess he gave up and did the smart thing and just finally figured out a way to get her to divorce him. I KNOW he didn't turn gay--Liz is the biggest Fag Hag of all time.

And now she has outlived Michael Jackson. No surprise there. I mean, he's 50--she's 839 and probably eats the soul of all her dead husbands. I could swear I heard some radio guy--I don't know if it was local or not--talking about her drinking their blood or something? Or was it someone else? I don't know. But there is some credence to this. Liz Taylor is killing the men (and almost, or at least, used to be) in her life and living off something she takes from them. Now ordinarily, this would be an easy case to solve: She has outlived her husbands. No big deal. She probably nagged them to death, Drove the poor fuckers crazy. But now people whom she wasn't even married to are dying. I think there may be some sorcery involved--something in those purple eyes.

I think it needs to be looked into--and all the dudes who know her better have their shit in order--you know--for their children.

i'm now hearing he died of food poisoning- he ate some 12 year old nuts.

I blame P for that post.

I didn't lol - but it got a chuckle from me.

And don't blame me for the jokes - you knew they were coming.

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farah fawcett's dying wish was for a safer world for children to live in. if you want to blame anyone, blame her for all of this.

The Farah joke is:

So, did you hear the news? Farah died and when she got to the Gates Saint Peter told her that because she put up with anal cancer (anal cancer!) and was such an inspiration the Lord decided she could have one last wish.

Farah said she just wanted a safer world for all the childen.

10 minutes later Michael Jackson died!

yeah i heard it that way too but i just summarized i guess.

FWIW- i heard the jackson 5 reunion tour tickets are now 20% off.

What are Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson, and Billy Mays expecting for Christmas?

Patrick Swayze

What are Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson, and Billy Mays expecting for Christmas?

Patrick Swayze

Wow! Nice.

In other pertinent news, Michael Jackson remains dead as of this time.

In other pertinent news, Michael Jackson remains dead as of this time.


Keep me posted.

^I imagine he must be glued to his computer screen.

What are Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson, and Billy Mays expecting for Christmas?

Patrick Swayze

I wonder if they used the Awesome Auger® to dig Mays' grave.

for those football ('soccer') fans that might be out there:

what's the difference between alex ferguson and michael jackson?

ferguson will be playing gigs this year.

*ha-HA* (nelson from The Simpson's laugh)

for those football ('soccer') fans that might be out there:

what's the difference between alex ferguson and michael jackson?

ferguson will be playing gigs this year.

*ha-HA* (nelson from The Simpson's laugh)


thats actually pretty funny

if your child was molested, you owe it not only to the victim (your child) but all the other future victims to prosecute the offender in a criminal court. being bought off is insufficient. if these kids really were molested, then the parents who accepted $$ over justice are complicit. and if they had such little whatever (integrity, conviction, etc), then it places their entire accusation in question.

for some people an accusation is enough. for me, with considering the above, i lean towards innocent til proven guilty (never proven). the guy certainly had a dangerous inclination towards children, but i think its a leap to just assume he was a pederast. theres a huge spectrum of possbilities. weird doesnt necesarily mean evil.

if your child was molested, you owe it not only to the victim (your child) but all the other future victims to prosecute the offender in a criminal court. being bought off is insufficient. if these kids really were molested, then the parents who accepted $$ over justice are complicit. and if they had such little whatever (integrity, conviction, etc), then it places their entire accusation in question.

for some people an accusation is enough. for me, with considering the above, i lean towards innocent til proven guilty (never proven). the guy certainly had a dangerous inclination towards children, but i think its a leap to just assume he was a pederast. theres a huge spectrum of possbilities. weird doesnt necesarily mean evil.

Seems pretty correct to me at first glance.

if your child was molested, you owe it not only to the victim (your child) but all the other future victims to prosecute the offender in a criminal court. being bought off is insufficient. if these kids really were molested, then the parents who accepted $$ over justice are complicit. and if they had such little whatever (integrity, conviction, etc), then it places their entire accusation in question.

Exactly. Money is tough to turn down, I can't disagree with that... but if your kid really was molested, you should stick with the case so that the offender can be molested in jail as well. Plus once you win the criminal case, the civil case will be a cakewalk. Hell OJ lost the civil case despite being acquitted... which, legally speaking, makes no sense to this day IMO.

OJ losing the criminal case makes no sense to me to this day though either.

its the burdens of proof.

criminal court requires "beyond the shadow of a doubt".

civil court just is over 50%, or more likely than not.

that little rant was inspired by a poster i saw on a subway about a rapist on the prowl. he was in custody after striking but the victim refused to press charges, and he was released. the poster was warning people to look out for him, but someone had wriitten on it that if your the next victim dont blame him, blame the victim who wouldnt press charges since she could have stopped it. pretty harsh, but lots of truth in it.

of course, its always easier to say what you would do. but some things are too important to take the easy way out on.

if your child was molested, you owe it not only to the victim (your child) but all the other future victims to prosecute the offender in a criminal court. being bought off is insufficient. if these kids really were molested, then the parents who accepted $$ over justice are complicit. and if they had such little whatever (integrity, conviction, etc), then it places their entire accusation in question.

for some people an accusation is enough. for me, with considering the above, i lean towards innocent til proven guilty (never proven). the guy certainly had a dangerous inclination towards children, but i think its a leap to just assume he was a pederast. theres a huge spectrum of possbilities. weird doesnt necesarily mean evil.

http://blogfreespringfield.com/wp-content/uploads/image/donny_1.jpg

What's a pederast, Walter?

I realize that the burden of proof is much less in civil, more in criminal, but the criminal decision still makes no sense to me.

OJ losing the criminal case makes no sense to me to this day though either.

Totally agree. Just saying... if I was acquitted of a crime, then sued for the same crime, I wouldn't even think I'd need a lawyer. The court record would show me saying the same word about 500,000 times; "acquitted".

it's very easy to say they should've taken the case all the way and had him properly prosecuted. but first off you have to think of how long and painful a process that is for the victim and the family.

i understand your point but i know 2 females who have been raped, both very close friends of mine. neither wanted to press charges and i was furious with one of them at first. it took me a while to understand her thought process and why she didn't want to re-live it all in that forum and to put herself out there like that.

it's very easy to say "i'd make sure he was put behind bars so he couldn't repeat this act" and "i'd do this or that." but until you've been in that situation, you can't really know what you'd do.

finally, if these parents put the money before their kid's well being then shame on them. that's on their consciences and it's disgusting and inhumane. but their handling (or MIShandling) of the situation has no bearing on MJ's innocence or guilt. it's a separate act altogether.

and IMO he's guilty as sin. really, REALLY read up on these cases and i don't believe anybody can safely say he's truly innocent of the charges. if that was some ordinary joe and not a celebrity with tons of money and fame, he'd still be sitting in jail today. but life isn't fair like that.

OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case.
You have the right to life and limb, but not money.
Having money taken from you is remedial, not punitive.
<groan>
I think SCOTUS is a big steaming pile of shit. Having two bites at the apple is crap. Artificially splitting up the crime into interdependent itty bitty parts specifically for the purpose of wearing down the defendant is crap. Fuck the judicial system.

it's very easy to say they should've taken the case all the way and had him properly prosecuted. but first off you have to think of how long and painful a process that is for the victim and the family.

i understand your point but i know 2 females who have been raped, both very close friends of mine. neither wanted to press charges and i was furious with one of them at first. it took me a while to understand her thought process and why she didn't want to re-live it all in that forum and to put herself out there like that.

it's very easy to say "i'd make sure he was put behind bars so he couldn't repeat this act" and "i'd do this or that." but until you've been in that situation, you can't really know what you'd do.

finally, if these parents put the money before their kid's well being then shame on them. that's on their consciences and it's disgusting and inhumane. but their handling (or MIShandling) of the situation has no bearing on MJ's innocence or guilt. it's a separate act altogether.

and IMO he's guilty as sin. really, REALLY read up on these cases and i don't believe anybody can safely say he's truly innocent of the charges. if that was some ordinary joe and not a celebrity with tons of money and fame, he'd still be sitting in jail today. but life isn't fair like that.

its tough becuase it approaches a 'blame the victim' mentality, which is pretty tough in rape cases.

but, the girl maybe doesnt want to press charges, nor did she want to get raped, nor does the next girl want to get raped.

but somet things you just have to do. i wonder how your friends would feel if someone else made the same decision that (indirectly) led to their own raping? what would they say to that girl?

as far as reading up... i've done some light reading that suggested it was rather inconclusive (the description of the genitals sorta matching, but not specific enough to really prove anything...). then you have the circumspect stuff like strange statues and whatnot. stuff that gives off the vibe, but not really evidence of anything.

whats the smoking gun?

to me, i look at motives. and the accusers definitly had motives to bring false charges. i mean, chid molestation is something you would pay not to even get brought against you, even if its total bs. i mean, as far as fraudulent lawsuits go, isnt that kind of the general norm as far opinion goes? slip and falls, hot coffees, why should jacko be anydifferent.

and as far as if jackson was a regular schmoe, first of all parents probably wouldnt be dropping their kids off to stay with him for the weekend unsupervised. secondly, he wouldnt have the $ to invite those kinds of lawsuits either. so who knows.

for some people an accusation is enough. for me, with considering the above, i lean towards innocent til proven guilty (never proven). the guy certainly had a dangerous inclination towards children, but i think its a leap to just assume he was a pederast. theres a huge spectrum of possbilities. weird doesnt necesarily mean evil.

Weird doesn't necessarily mean evil but it does tend to put you on thin ice. If MJ were alive I'd tell him to check his PM's.

http://blogfreespringfield.com/wp-content/uploads/image/donny_1.jpg

What's a pederast, Walter?
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x147/dspiewak/the_big_lebowski_1998.jpg
*Sigh* You're like a child, Donnie. The world does not stop and start whenever you want it to.

Am I the only one not watching (nor caring) about this?

My co-workers are doing play-by-play, oooh Maya Angelou!! ooh, Lionel Ritchie.

Wait, Lionel's there? BRB

no, I'm "working."

I'm jerking off to porn.

Am I the only one not watching (nor caring) about this?

My co-workers are doing play-by-play, oooh Maya Angelou!! ooh, Lionel Ritchie.

Wait, Lionel's there? BRB

No, I was up on a roof and all electricity was used up by saws.

I'm jerking off to porn.

Well, duh, it is a weekday and all.

I'll admit that I was pretty sad when his daughter was up there.

Usher's whole performance just seemed fake to me. He was the only one who actually went and touched the casket and he held his hand out and it was all so terribly, terribly...

STAGED!

Dude needs a hit though - maybe Michael's fans latch onto him?

And way to go Al Sharpton - Obama has Michael Jackson to thank for non-blacks getting "comfortable" with blacks when they were teens so they'd vote for Obama when they were 40...

Yeah - cause all blacks are the same right? If I liked this 1 black man (Jackson) when I was a teen and I thought he was awesome then that MUST mean this other black man (Obama) is a good dude and awesome and stuff too!

Cause all whites are that freakin' retarded, right Al?

Maybe Sharpton is the "Cracker Al" Chris Rock was talking about in Never Scared?

And Poor, Poor Janet - she got upstaged by Michael while he was alive and then at the end of the Memorial Michael's daughter took her air time.

Time to flash the other tit and hope people care again.

BREAKING NEWS: DO NOT BE UNDULY ALARMED, BUT MICHAEL JACKSON REMAINS DEAD!

I'll admit that I was pretty sad when his daughter was up there.

It was better in L.A., especially if you were watching Fox11...

aIa3eh_AU_g

No joke. That REALLY happened.

Over the past few weeks I've really grown to loathe the word "icon".

Over the past few weeks I've really grown to loathe the word "icon".

ICON

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ICON

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DAMN!


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Well played.

It was better in L.A., especially if you were watching Fox11...
Apparently, the newscaster in question (the mega-fine Maria Quiban) wasn't watching it on Fox11.

http://twitter.com/Mariasearth

LOL:

The city of Los Angeles spent $3.5 Million on heightened security for the Jackson memorial, expecting 250,000 people to show up outside the stadium. 600 people showed up. They are now requesting donations on their website to pay for it all.

http://www.examiner.com/x-6336-Orlando-Entertainment-Examiner~y2009m7d5-LA-begging-for-Jackson-Memorial-donations

http://www.celebnewswire.com/archives/michael_jackson_all_star_memorial.html

That "new" video of his head being on fire during the Pepsi commercial shoot is disturbing.

Even in death the media can't get enough.

Who cares about that old Pepsi commercial?

Why wasn't this footage shown before now?

Why does any of this shit make the news?

Isn't there a war going on somewhere? Isn't the price of oil going up? Isn't the cost of electricity going up? Don't we have homeless people on the streets? And dudes are winning $100 mil+ on the fucking Lotto!

If only the poor people in the developed world would rise up and destroy the rich fuckers everything could be made "right". This idea that big business can make billions of dollars in profits while their employees can't afford the rent is just fucking insane.

And this is civilisation? Says who?

Adorable! P thinks the game wasn't over 1500 years ago when we let the priests and the merchants run the show. That's so charming. You don't see that much in the era of the TV set and the hi-fi stereo.

So we found a stray cat in my daughter's playhouse in our backyard a couple weeks ago. The cat had had 8 kittens and apparently carried them in there at some point. The mom and all the kittens were black except one guy who was white. We started feeding the mom and playing with the kittens after a while and I taped a note to the mom's collar as she would leave every day and then come back and I hoped she was returning to her owners. No one called me so eventually, when the kittens got old enough to start really exploring the playhouse I took them in to the animal shelter. We kept the white one since he was unique.

I want to call him Michael Jackson. You know, because all his brothers and sisters are black.

Thanks for explaining the last part.

So we found a stray cat in my daughter's playhouse in our backyard a couple weeks ago. The cat had had 8 kittens and apparently carried them in there at some point. The mom and all the kittens were black except one guy who was white. We started feeding the mom and playing with the kittens after a while and I taped a note to the mom's collar as she would leave every day and then come back and I hoped she was returning to her owners. No one called me so eventually, when the kittens got old enough to start really exploring the playhouse I took them in to the animal shelter. We kept the white one since he was unique.

I want to call him Michael Jackson. You know, because all his brothers and sisters are black.

Quality.

Also...


And this is civilisation? Says who?


Us imperialistic pigs spell "civilization" with a "z". We own you, so get used to it. :)

Is it wrong that I've totally moved on from this? It was shocking on day 1. On day two I thought about how it was a shame he did all those inappropriate things, regardless of whether anything was illegal...because he could have gone down as one of the best with a cleaner image.

On day 3 I was completely over it.

Not being over it in 5 minutes was wrong.

I was never emotionally connected to it. I just mean I thought about it for a couple days and that was it.

That sounds right.

I should whip up a "death timer" to indicate how long Michael Jackson has remained in a state of deadness, because I have nothing better to do.

[QUOTE]If only the poor people in the developed world would rise up and destroy the rich fuckers everything could be made "right".[QUOTE]

i know you were half kidding. but if that ever happened, it would all eventually re-develop into the current state of fuckery that we already have. it's human nature that is the problem, and overthrowing the rich and powerful would only lead to a new group of rich and powerful emerging.

If only the poor people in the developed world would rise up and destroy the rich fuckers everything could be made "right".

i know you were half kidding P. but if that ever happened, it would all eventually re-develop into the current state of fuckery that we already have. it's human nature that is the problem, and overthrowing the rich and powerful would only lead to a new group of rich and powerful emerging.

So we found a stray cat in my daughter's playhouse in our backyard a couple weeks ago. The cat had had 8 kittens and apparently carried them in there at some point. The mom and all the kittens were black except one guy who was white. We started feeding the mom and playing with the kittens after a while and I taped a note to the mom's collar as she would leave every day and then come back and I hoped she was returning to her owners. No one called me so eventually, when the kittens got old enough to start really exploring the playhouse I took them in to the animal shelter. We kept the white one since he was unique.

I want to call him Michael Jackson. You know, because all his brothers and sisters are black.

That's the greatest thing I've seen all day. Do it.

If only the poor people in the developed world would rise up and destroy the rich fuckers everything could be made "right".


i know you were half kidding. but if that ever happened, it would all eventually re-develop into the current state of fuckery that we already have. it's human nature that is the problem, and overthrowing the rich and powerful would only lead to a new group of rich and powerful emerging.

How d'ya think Australia happened. Had to put those shitbags somewhere

Firstly: Denny - the Poms regret dumping "us" here cause Australia is a far better place than the UK.

Secondly: HW - it would take a century or more for the re-development, and hopefully by that time human beings are a little bit more compassionate for their fellow man/woman.

How the fuck can we as human beings tolerate the amount of homelessness we see is beyond me.

Either feed them and help them become useful members of society or use 'em all for scientific research. Either way, get these fuckers off the streets.

I have to step over 3 of them every morning on my way to work. It's such a hassle.

Firstly: Denny - the Poms regret dumping "us" here cause Australia is a far better place than the UK.

Secondly: HW - it would take a century or more for the re-development, and hopefully by that time human beings are a little bit more compassionate for their fellow man/woman.

How the fuck can we as human beings tolerate the amount of homelessness we see is beyond me.

Either feed them and help them become useful members of society or use 'em all for scientific research. Either way, get these fuckers off the streets.

I have to step over 3 of them every morning on my way to work. It's such a hassle.


Interesting that you "step over" them instead of feeding them and helping them become useful members of society.

But seriously, we're ALWAYS gonna have homelessness, poverty, and people like Baker to deal with. It's just as much human nature to wallow in shit (or maybe be mentally fucked up, injured, sick, insane, or Baker) as it is to succeed (for lack of a better term). And face it: Grillions of us are one paycheck away from being stepped over by you on your way to work. We think we're all, "Hey, I got my shit together" and yet we really, really, REALLY don't.

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That's the greatest thing I've seen all day. Do it.

MY daughter, who's five, doesn't get the reference or like the name. However, I think I have successfully lobbied for "Cracker". She likes crackers and other people think it's a cute name.

Lame.

Call it Michael Jackson - fuck what other people think.

"Other people" = my daughter. It's her cat.

And she's your daughter.

If she lives at home she has to live by your rules.

Rule #1 = Cat named Michael Jackson!
Rule #2 = Get a job and pay your rent!
Rule #3 = Get the fuck out!

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AP in LA reports that Michael Jackson's doctor is going to be charged with manslaughter.

His son is going to murder somebody someday. The kid already sounds like a serial killer.

Dr. Conrad Murray "did unlawfully, and without malice, kill Michael Joseph Jackson," District Attorney's Office charges.

In related news, Michael Jackson remains dead as of this time. We will keep you updated should conditions change.

In related news, Michael Jackson remains dead as of this time. We will keep you updated should conditions change.

I clicked this thread hoping Glenn did what he used to do to the Barbaro thread.

*Updated* Still dead.

wonder how much decomposition has taken place.

He must be white as a sheet by now...

I believe he is white as a ghost

still don't get why they're trying to pin this on his doctor. i thought it was already established that he died from food poisoning- we all know how much he liked those 12 year old nuts.

^^ booooooo lol

yeah, fail.

I smirked a little.

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100210/Michael%20Jackson%20Autopsy/michael-jacksons-face-0.jpg (http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100210/Michael%20Jackson%20Autopsy/michael-jacksons-face-0.html)

I thought dead men told no tales?

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2010/03/michael-jackson-record-deal-shatters-records/


Michael Jackson just scored the biggest contract in music history and he's not even alive to see it - one that could be worth up to $250 million with incentives.

His estate will earn $200 million guaranteed for 10 projects in seven years. The landmark contract extends through 2017 and could pay his estate much more.

One of the albums will be of never-before-released Jackson recordings that will come out in November. Enough unreleased material may exist for 2-3 albums.

Projects may also include a video game, a DVD compilation of videos and a re-release of Off the Wall, Jackson's fifth studio album, which debuted back in '79.

Before Jackson's tragic death in June at age 50, he wanted to re-issue the album, people familiar with the deal said. Now he's getting his wish, posthumously.

One project already counted in the contract was a two-disc album that accompanied This Is It, the film based on footage of Jackson's 2009 concert rehearsals.

He can join Tupac and Elvis in the 2011 posthumouspalooza tour.