Which one would you prefer?

Bosh. Better defender, rebounder, passer, and outside shooter. He's also 1 1/2 years younger.

Amare is an offensive dynamo in the paint, but you'd have a much easier time building around Bosh, who you don't have to hide defensively and is more willing to get others involved.

the final selling point is, Bosh doesn't have re-construsted knees that may or may not have a shortened shelf life.

Microfracture. Bosh.

Bosh: Turned 25 in March
Amar'e: Turns 27 this November

Bosh career avgs.: 19.6 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.2 bpg, 37.1 mpg
Amar'e career avgs.: 21.1 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.4 bpg, 34.2 mpg

And Amar'e has the injury history, of course.

That's not to say i wouldn't take Amare in a heartbeat. He'd just be my 2nd choice.

All that, and Bosh has a sense of humor.

Can you build a team around either of these guys, or are they both "#2s"?

They're both more #1-B types. They aren't really kobe or shaq-type superstars, but they aren't support players either.

I think the best comparison would be Dwight Howard, in terms of importance. They can be your best player, providing you have enough depth behind them.

For instance, team Bosh with Stuckey, Ben Gordon and a Boozer or Millsapp, and I think you have the makings of a very good team.

I say Bosh not just because he's younger but because I know that he would like to be a Piston.

Bosh, as long as he leaves RuPaul in Toronto. [/Shaqness]

did he change his name to amar'e? seriously...?

I think this would be a better question if we included what it would take to get them. It would take more to pry away Bosh than Amare, and that could change some opinions.

I think Amare would be cheaper, personally...

BOSH

I wonder what these guys 1st names are?

The Pistons aren't getting either, unfortunately.

Bosh and it's not even close.

Amare with his knee.

Amare with his whining in the press

Amare with his bullshit man crush on Nash

Amare with his love of his jumper

Amare with his weak ass D

Amare with his bullshit

Fuck that guy.

Bosh has played for some shitty fucking Raptor teams and has never whined aout shit, never demanded a trade, never had weak ass D, never wanted to fuck a team mate.

Bosh is the Man and we should be willing to trade Stuckey, Prince and whatever else it takes just to fucking have the pleasure of signing him to the maximum extension his MVP calibre play deserves.

You build around a guy like Bosh - the dude is a franchise fucking player.

Amare? He needs to be the 2nd best player on your team otherwise his weak mind and body couldn't handle the pressure

I think most of that is fair, but Bosh loves his jumper just as much as Amar'e loves his, actually more, I think.

It's true that Bosh loves to shoot jumpers just as much, but don't you think part of that is because of who he plays with and the style they play?

Bosh doesn't have Shaq, Hill and Nash setting up wide open lanes to the hoop. He's playing with some fucking scrubs.

IIRC some people were crapping on David Lee because of the style of play New York employ - it makes their stats useless and it's hard to judge what those players could do in a normal situation.

What about Amare? Dude has been playing with a bunch of fucking All-Stars since he was drafted in a run and gun and run some more system.

I will never believe Amare is better than Bosh - NEVER!

Good point on Amar'e's stats, I was thinking the same yesterday.

So why defend Amare's love of the J?

Yeah Bosh shoots a lot of 'em too, but he's in an entirely different situation. When the best PG you ever played with is (probably) Jose Calderon or TJ Ford or some other wannabe then FUCK!

Amare has had Nash spoon feed his dumbass since draft day, almost. And before Nash it was Marbury after his "Ball Hog/Team Mates Suck" Tour of New Jersey.

Marbury is a fuckhead but when he was in Phoenix he actually wasn't too bad. They freaked the shit out of the Spurs in the playoffs one year and Amare was right there to handle every gift Marbury and Marion created for him.

AND

While my dislike for Nash's MVP awards is well known you can't tell me that having one of the best PG's in the NBA pass you the rock every other time down the floor doesn't help a dude.

Shit, how many of Amare's shots aren't pure fucking gifts from talented players creating a wide open area for him?

He's never had to be the Man, never had to carry the heavy load and he's always had at least 1 other star around when Nash or even Marbury got injured.

Playing with Marion in his prime must have been fun. Playing with Shaq and Hill at the tail end of their careers must be fun too.

Don't you think that Chris Bosh would fucking love, just absofuckinglutely LOVE to play with guys like that IF only for 1 fucking season? So he could see how it is for a big talented dude to actually have some fucking help.

Bosh probably looks at Garnett and prays every single fucking day that in the end his work will pay off and he'll get a ring.

Amare = prototypical Western Conference big man. I hate that shit. I don't care how much he can score if he's soft.

So why defend Amare's love of the J?


To be fair.

If you are gonna knock Amar'e because he is a big that shoots jumpers, then you best be knocking Bosh for the same, IMO.

Dude, you play the devil's advocate too much IMO

I agree with... kind of gets boring after a while.

Not if you agree.

If someone actually disagrees then let them state their case.

It's not up to you or Fool or MoTown to play Devil's Advocate IMO.

If the people want Amare over Bosh then let's read it.

Why would any sane person choose Amare over Bosh?

Come on - let it rip.

Looks like you're talking to your boy Higherwarrior on this one.

OK, Giddeon (long memory, man)

Why do you want Amare?

BTW, why don't I get credit for all these Scout.com dudes we have?

HW, Cross, Tahoe, Atticus - they're all from Scout.

Fuck you bastards short changing me on credit.

I demand 250 Alpacas for each of 'em.

I don't know how to bet my Alpacas anyway

Not if you agree.

If someone actually disagrees then let them state their case.

It's not up to you or Fool or MoTown to play Devil's Advocate IMO.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's up to me to do pretty much whatever the fuck I want to, and the same goes for you.

Not if you agree.

If someone actually disagrees then let them state their case.

It's not up to you or Fool or MoTown to play Devil's Advocate IMO.

If the people want Amare over Bosh then let's read it.

Why would any sane person choose Amare over Bosh?

Come on - let it rip.

Only reason I could see would be price (we have no idea what assets will be wanted for either). Say Toronto wanted Tay and Stuckey and the Suns wanted RIP and Max.

That would be the only way I see Amare being the choice.

Amare = prototypical Western Conference big man. I hate that shit. I don't care how much he can score if he's soft.


And yet, they're the ones winning championships.

Amare = prototypical Western Conference big man. I hate that shit. I don't care how much he can score if he's soft.
Softer than Gasol? Is TD any less soft than Amare? He plays defense, but I Amare goes to the rim harder than TD.

Gl'enn actually threatens me via PM every day if I don't play devil's advocate in certain threads. I'd report it to the Syndicate, but HE IS THE SYNDICATE. Scary times for me, indeed.

BTW, why don't I get credit for all these Scout.com dudes we have?

HW, Cross, Tahoe, Atticus - they're all from Scout.

Fuck you bastards short changing me on credit.

I demand 250 Alpacas for each of 'em.

I don't know how to bet my Alpacas anyway

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I don't get it, Fool.

Amare = prototypical Western Conference big man. I hate that shit. I don't care how much he can score if he's soft.


And yet, they're the ones winning championships.

A soft(ish) jump shooting big is fine, as long he's at power forward with a tougher, more physical player at center.

I don't get it, Fool.

You are acting like that guy.

How so? I still don't get it.

Demanding credit for shit WAY in the past and half of which is terrible.

I was lost too P.

Demanding credit for shit WAY in the past and half of which is terrible.

Um, demanded credit at the time and got none. Thought it was a good time to bring it up again and I made a joke of getting some Alpacas, which I don't even know how to bet.

As for half of it being terrible please tell me which posters from Scout are terrible?

IMO they're all passionate about the team. That's all that matters to me.