The part I'm in complete agreement with starts at around 3:00.

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Plus, a critical shout-out to FCRDC

YES! Tanks, Swami.

To be fair, Lics held the govt. for 6 years and didn't touch abortion while increasing entitlements and spending across the board.

What are "lics"?

I agree 100%. I feel (aside from the standard lobby argument) that so many Democrat politicians have become pussies on important liberal issues because they are afraid to have to give a good in depth argument versus a three word soundbite. Instead of fighting through that bullshit they just take the easy route.

- Health Care: Socialist
- Decriminalization/Legalization of Drugs: Soft on Crime
- Against the Death Penalty: Soft on Crime
- Cut Military Spending: Soft/Destroy America's Military Strength

Obviously I'm on the left so I find these simplistic answers as bullshit as it gets, but not one Democrat politician has the balls to fight through them and actually try to get the fact and/or valid arguments out. And that includes Obama with civil unions.

What are "lics"?

The opposite of "dems".

lics must = smart then. :)

I agree 100%. I feel (aside from the standard lobby argument) that so many Democrat politicians have become pussies on important liberal issues because they are afraid to have to give a good in depth argument versus a three word soundbite. Instead of fighting through that bullshit they just take the easy route.

- Health Care: Socialist
- Decriminalization/Legalization of Drugs: Soft on Crime
- Against the Death Penalty: Soft on Crime
- Cut Military Spending: Soft/Destroy America's Military Strength

Obviously I'm on the left so I find these simplistic answers as bullshit as it gets, but not one Democrat politician has the balls to fight through them and actually try to get the fact and/or valid arguments out. And that includes Obama with civil unions.

Solid.

But how much of it is the fault of the public? Mention social security and people have a coronary. And yeah, so many people seem to be afraid of their own shadows now that if you really mention cutting the military budget, they can easily be worked into a fear frenzy that renders that argument dead.

The dems are proving to be weak, and it's a disappointment because we truly had a MANDATE for change--but failed to capitalize and instead began capitulating to Faux News and Rush Limbaugh. I mean really, the repulsican party was at the very least on life support and probably dead--but the enemy was not destroyed and may now rise up to fight again and kill the dems--and there were no viable repulsican voices, NONE worth listening to--just the cornered rats of the far right.

But it's Top Down--and you have to look at Obama and wonder what he is doing trying to stradle so many fences. You have a mandate like he had, a voting majority in both houses, and you get shit done--and the repulsicans have YOU to blame if their constituents axe them "why?"--so they have no one to hold them accountable for their support of getting shit DONE.

Now, the risk is that the Tahoe's of the world can work with the mass of stupidity in this country and gain a stronger voice. Backlash is a motherfucker.

Solid.

But how much of it is the fault of the public? Mention social security and people have a coronary. And yeah, so many people seem to be afraid of their own shadows now that if you really mention cutting the military budget, they can easily be worked into a fear frenzy that renders that argument dead.

The dems are proving to be weak, and it's a disappointment because we truly had a MANDATE for change--but failed to capitalize and instead began capitulating to Faux News and Rush Limbaugh. I mean really, the repulsican party was at the very least on life support and probably dead--but the enemy was not destroyed and may now rise up to fight again and kill the dems--and there were no viable repulsican voices, NONE worth listening to--just the cornered rats of the far right.

But it's Top Down--and you have to look at Obama and wonder what he is doing trying to stradle so many fences. You have a mandate like he had, a voting majority in both houses, and you get shit done--and the repulsicans have YOU to blame if their constituents axe them "why?"--so they have no one to hold them accountable for their support of getting shit DONE.

Now, the risk is that the Tahoe's of the world can work with the mass of stupidity in this country and gain a stronger voice. Backlash is a motherfucker.

I'm not working with ANY of youz libs.

Solid.

But how much of it is the fault of the public? Mention social security and people have a coronary. And yeah, so many people seem to be afraid of their own shadows now that if you really mention cutting the military budget, they can easily be worked into a fear frenzy that renders that argument dead.

The dems are proving to be weak, and it's a disappointment because we truly had a MANDATE for change--but failed to capitalize and instead began capitulating to Faux News and Rush Limbaugh. I mean really, the repulsican party was at the very least on life support and probably dead--but the enemy was not destroyed and may now rise up to fight again and kill the dems--and there were no viable repulsican voices, NONE worth listening to--just the cornered rats of the far right.

But it's Top Down--and you have to look at Obama and wonder what he is doing trying to stradle so many fences. You have a mandate like he had, a voting majority in both houses, and you get shit done--and the repulsicans have YOU to blame if their constituents axe them "why?"--so they have no one to hold them accountable for their support of getting shit DONE.

Now, the risk is that the Tahoe's of the world can work with the mass of stupidity in this country and gain a stronger voice. Backlash is a motherfucker.

Those are two points I think are very important that I feel like I've really noticed now that I'm living back in the US. It seems that as a society we have grown more reactionary and prone to fear. And at the same time we seem to be more than ever a "can't do society" instead of finding a way to get it done.

Health care for me is an issue where I see this. Something that piece of shit fascist dictatorships (including Spain for decades) had/have and we are so afraid of it so prone to call it socialist. At the same time when you discuss it, every argument is "cant' do". Big lines and waiting lists in Canada? Ok, fine, what about systems where that doesn't happen? Or how about throwing some ingenuity and original thought at the problem and finding a way to make sure that doesn't happen? It's like not buying a great car just because the tire might lose too much air and we wouldn't know how to solve that.

Did it start with politicians who didn't want to have to actually work hard for their paycheck and come up with solutions or is it a product of a comfortable American society afraid of real deep change?

I think Herm makes a good point. The Dems say hands off on military spending if the lics keep their hands off all the wasted social spending.

In the end, the taxpayers overpay for both.

I only wish we had not chosen to go into massive debt until the end of 2008. We'd be in a much better position to use debt to leverage our asses out of this economic mess. Now when we borrow money, our debt is worth a lot less to other nations, making our recovery much harder.

Imagine if Obama took office, and Bush had managed to build a surplus! When the housing market finally took a shit, we could have spent the surplus and started borrowing money right then and there to handle the economic crisis that followed. But we were already in huge debt by the time it hit us, and now our currency has been made worthless. We had a choice.

Yup, lics kept talking about the economy being so good during bush's 6 middle years, we should have been building wealth then face fucking this crisis.

Yup, lics kept talking about the economy being so good during bush's 6 middle years, we should have been building wealth then face fucking this crisis.

Can you build wealth when you are spending a grillion dollars a day on two wars? A surplus also might have meant rolling back tax cuts, expecially for the wealthy.
Or maybe not, I'm just winging it.

I'm not working with ANY of youz libs.

We KNOW that, buttplug. That's why you are working with the mass of stupidity given over to the fear-mongering you guys have captalized on under the guise of "patriotism" over the last 8 years, and just might be able to scare and yell enough to have the Supreme Court steal another election or two for ya.

I think the 2 wars averaged under 1% GDP (not counting supplemental bills), so yeah, we could have fought them, increased airline security, improved some healthcare efficiencies in our private system, and still fought the debt with an across the board tax cut. But Americans won't sacrifice.

Woolworths makes dildoes?!?

I only wish we had not chosen to go into massive debt until the end of 2008. We'd be in a much better position to use debt to leverage our asses out of this economic mess. Now when we borrow money, our debt is worth a lot less to other nations, making our recovery much harder.

Imagine if Obama took office, and Bush had managed to build a surplus! When the housing market finally took a shit, we could have spent the surplus and started borrowing money right then and there to handle the economic crisis that followed. But we were already in huge debt by the time it hit us, and now our currency has been made worthless. We had a choice.

Massive debt? Just watch and you'll see massive debt.

I only wish we had not chosen to go into massive debt until the end of 2008. We'd be in a much better position to use debt to leverage our asses out of this economic mess. Now when we borrow money, our debt is worth a lot less to other nations, making our recovery much harder.

Imagine if Obama took office, and Bush had managed to build a surplus! When the housing market finally took a shit, we could have spent the surplus and started borrowing money right then and there to handle the economic crisis that followed. But we were already in huge debt by the time it hit us, and now our currency has been made worthless. We had a choice.

Imagine if Obama wasn't such a douce bag. Dude is a fuckin tool.

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy

Massive debt? Just watch and you'll see massive debt.

Uh, we did. Remember Ronald Reagan and George Bush the Two?

Tahoe, you are a:

http://www.v7n.com/forums/attachments/graphic-design-forum/1029d1121804285-ass-clown-award-assclown.jpg

Mr Community Organizer voted for every spending bill, iirc. Bush doesn't really approve spending, does he?

The spending that is taking place now will make Bush's spending look like a drop in the bucket.

Doesn't really matter to him though, he just puts more peeps on Gov't assistance and gets their vote.

^should I just make that into an emoticon?

We KNOW that, buttplug. That's why you are working with the mass of stupidity given over to the fear-mongering you guys have captalized on under the guise of "patriotism" over the last 8 years, and just might be able to scare and yell enough to have the Supreme Court steal another election or two for ya.

I'm thinking maybe some peeps in the country felt some fear watching the peeps caught above the burning floors of the WTC jumping to their deaths as opposed to burning alive.

Or flying into the ground in PA.

Stick your head in the sand you dumb fuck. I know none of that happened in your world though.

Good try sticking it on Repubs, fucktard.

I'm thinking maybe some peeps in the country felt some fear watching the peeps caught above the burning floors of the WTC jumping to their deaths as opposed to burning alive.

Or flying into the ground in PA.

Stick your head in the sand you dumb fuck. I know none of that happened in your world though.

Good try sticking it on Repubs, fucktard.

What a corcksucking buttplug you are. Is that the new Republican mantra?

"Hey, how ya doing, Ralph?"
"Well, I'm kind of tired. I had to work late last night"
"Oh, YOU had to work late, eh? YOU FUCKHEAD! What about all the people who died on 9/11? HUH? What about when the planes were crashing into the Twin Towers, HUH? YOU ARE A FUCKING COMMUNIST BASTARD who wants this country to be taken over by illegal Mexicans and Osama Bin Laden. HOW ABOUT IF I WATERBOARD YOUR FUCKING ASS YOU FUCKING SISSY FACE? What about Pearl Harbor? And th War of 1812? You aren't FRENCH, are you, faggot? Huh? Don't you remember when the British burned the White House in the War of 1812? What if Dolly Madison was in there taking a shit when it happened? We wouldn't have those Dolly Madison cakes and shit! PINKO! Tax and Spend LIBERAL FUCKEY FUCK!"

"..."

The End.

I'm thinking maybe some peeps in the country felt some fear watching the peeps caught above the burning floors of the WTC jumping to their deaths as opposed to burning alive.

While that is a scary thought, you still have to weigh the liklihood of such a thing happening to you or someone you know. More people die from so many different things every year. Yeah some jackasses had to pay for that, but invading a country that had nothing to do with it and stripping rights from Americans wasn't exactly the correct way to go about it. Neither was finishing the book with the 7 yr olds. 7 years of runamokery govt was reasoned by the actions of a few fucktards. Now you want to say Obama is a bigger douchebag, but really the worst thing anyone can say about him is that he took the financial torch Bush was running with and strapped it to a rocket. He also kills flies.

I remember when Bill Maher used to be funny.

Once he decided to take the 'angry leftist' career route (which is a hard path to conquer), I lost interest.

I mean seriously...this is the same guy who thinks prostitution should be legal...

I think prostitution should be legal.

I know I'm just merely turning back to my own talking points, but the 9/11 card is a perfect example for me of playing on reactionary fears to receive carte blanche for, well, a lot of stupid, horrible things that have actually hurt the US.

Another example of fear and "can't do" for me is the actual size of our military. It may be a bit different now that we're fighting two wars but it's been 20 years after the cold war and it seems like there's this driving need to make sure we always have to have this enormous military. It seems based on a fear of what may happen next. Now I do think we should have the most prepared military in the world for an immediate response or need, but after that, what happened to being able to mobilize for immediate responses? I don't know, just some thoughts.

Prostitution should be legal.

he just puts more peeps on Gov't assistance and gets their vote.

We don't even need a translator to read between the lines on that one.

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Prostitution should be legal.
just messin with ya, couldnt resist haha

We don't even need a translator to read between the lines on that one.

BRAVO!

Prostitution should be legal.

I have every right to be with the people i love.

I know I'm just merely turning back to my own talking points, but the 9/11 card is a perfect example for me of playing on reactionary fears to receive carte blanche for, well, a lot of stupid, horrible things that have actually hurt the US.

Another example of fear and "can't do" for me is the actual size of our military. It may be a bit different now that we're fighting two wars but it's been 20 years after the cold war and it seems like there's this driving need to make sure we always have to have this enormous military. It seems based on a fear of what may happen next. Now I do think we should have the most prepared military in the world for an immediate response or need, but after that, what happened to being able to mobilize for immediate responses? I don't know, just some thoughts.

Prostitution should be legal.

It happened. Its just that simple and some peeps want to make it sure it doesn't happen again.

Bush did it his way, now your guy has his turn to have some tea and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with them to see if he can just talk to them about reasonablenesses.

I hope he is succesful.

We don't even need a translator to read between the lines on that one.

I hope you don't. I thought it was clear.

I hope you don't. I thought it was clear.

Positively transparent.

Good. I'm not one of those hide the message kind of guys...as you prolly know.

Prostitution should be legal. I have every right to pay for the privilege of their leaving when the act is done!

I agree with Maher on everything but "gun control", but that's because I think government and "technology control" simply don't mix well in most cases. We like these dumb wars against products of technology, ranging from booze to other drugs to guns to whatever. It's NOT the technology, but how you use it that counts.

Legalizing MJ and Prostitution is ok with the Tahoe.

Legalizing MJ and Prostitution is ok with the Tahoe.

Finally he says something intelligent!

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/crunchiesawardb.jpg

I agree with Maher on everything but "gun control", but that's because I think government and "technology control" simply don't mix well in most cases. We like these dumb wars against products of technology, ranging from booze to other drugs to guns to whatever. It's NOT the technology, but how you use it that counts.
Here's how I see it: the technology to which you have access should not greatly outstrip your awareness. The majority of people in the United States are operating on a mid-19th-century mentality. I feel very strongly that all citizens should therefore be allowed the use of muzzel-loading single-fire rifles.

Here's how I see it: the technology to which you have access should not greatly outstrip your awareness. The majority of people in the United States are operating on a mid-19th-century mentality. I feel very strongly that all citizens should therefore be allowed the use of muzzel-loading single-fire rifles.

Great advice, but for me that would mean never working with anything more technlogically advanced than Play-Doh.

Prostitution should be legal. I have every right to pay for the privilege of their leaving when the act is done!

I agree with Maher on everything but "gun control", but that's because I think government and "technology control" simply don't mix well in most cases. We like these dumb wars against products of technology, ranging from booze to other drugs to guns to whatever. It's NOT the technology, but how you use it that counts.

I think we have it pretty close to where it ought to be on gun control right now. At one end of the spectrum are law abiding, responsible citizens who can obtain and carry a gun under current laws. At the other end of the spectrum are criminals who obtain guns illegally and would do so regardless of controls.

In the middle is a vast sea of fucktards who'd get a gun and do something stupid with it... but won't because they don't have their shit together well enough to jump through the hoops of paperwork and waiting periods. Don't underestimate the size of this demographic, it's probably a majority of the population.

Great advice, but for me that would mean never working with anything more technlogically advanced than Play-Doh.
Well, honestly...