Keep in mind that BPA = Best player available according to Joe and his staff, not who we think is best or who will be the best 5 years from now, in hindsight.

OK, so give an option of "guy who will be best in 5 years" or "best prospect" or something.

Why bother? Everyone would pick that.

I guess the question is, do you want them to draft a specific position more than any other or just use their judgment to take the guy that they think is the best talent at any position?

Fuck it, I just removed the BPA option altogether.

Somebody swat this.

Fail.

s t r u g g l i n g

I blame it on the death threats.

I picked PG just for you, Fool.

Actually, based on the popular belief that there are 3-4 quality PGs in the draft, that will possibly be the BPA, anyways.

Biggest needs are C and SF. Those take precedence when talent is considered equal or close to equal. I wouldn't really want them to take another position (barring trades) unless the talent was much higher than the next best C or SF.

You could try that again without ever mentioning BPA or taking into account who we think will be available, just if we had to have one position at #15 what would it be. I'd go with SF if I didn't know what was going to be available and just had to go with a position. We still (as always) need a backup for Tayshaun and we're not pulling a starting caliber player at #15.

Yeah, just rephrase the question as "what position do you hope the BPA is at #15?"

Nope. The moment is gone. This is a failure that cannot and will not be saved.

If someone else wants to try, this can be swatted.

there's a %90 chance that BPA at #15 will be point guard. It's the only position in the draft with any depth whatsoever.

Which means we'll draft some other position cause our scouts are fucking useless.

I honestly would not be surprised to see us pass on Ty Lawson and James Johnson to draft some C (Mullins?).

That's par for the fucking shitty course on Draft Day for Joe.

Joe Dumars is King!

Joe Dumars is King!

Should have been a poll option.

Joe said that he "won't have to wait until July to make a move"... it would be easy to take that as a draft day trade.

Might wanna add to the poll... "pick for another team"

Mullins is the darko of this draft. Stay away at all costs.

He couldn't even start at OHIO STATE. That should send up some kind of a red flag even if you haven't seen him play.

I think Joe will try to go PG so he can move Stuckey to the 2 and trade Rip once and for all for a big man.

I think Joe will try to go PG so he can move Stuckey to the 2 and trade Rip once and for all for a big man.

...waiting...

Fool?

Is Darko a bad pick at #15 in this draft?

...waiting...

Fool?

He's said that's what he is looking at. What are you waiting for from me?

Get him!

Joe D said that's what he's looking to do. That battle is over.

Joe D said that's what he's looking to do. That battle is over.

WTF is that? It can't be over! Wait, Flip Murray is a free agent, isn't he?

Joe didn't say he wanted to move Stuckey to SG. He said he wanted to play him off the ball more and that he's not a full time PG.

Isn't that right? I could be very wrong.

I like what I'm hearing Zekyl, please continue.

It's not over, it's never over.

Someone's got to keep it going.

I (unfortunately) still think we use Stuckey as our starting PG and Joe tries to pair him with a shooting guard/combo guard that can handle the ball, or uses him with Bynum more often.

Marvin (Richmond, Va.): It seems you are trying to get Pistons Nation up to not be disappointed if Joe picks a point guard at 15. So you’re saying that after 14 there is not one small forward or power forward, both positions of need, that could be counted on to have a long and productive NBA career?

Langlois: Go back and look at past drafts, Marvin. I did last week. At 15, you’d better not “count on” anything for sure. There will be players drafted at 15 and beyond who wind up with long and productive NBA careers – there might even be a star or two taken there – but there are no sure things. Power forward is a more likely option at 15 than small forward. Among the candidates are James Johnson, DeJuan Blair and Austin Daye. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Pistons took any one of them. But the odds favor a point guard at that spot because that’s where the best combination of quantity and quality will lie.

So why is PF a position of need? We have two role players there, a vet backup that is capable, and most of the good FA's are PF's.

I think Amir, Sheed and Dice are gone.

Which leaves Max.

But we can sign Lee, Charlie V, Odom, Bass, Boozer, Millsaip, Varejao, etc this year or Bosh, Amare, etc next year. I just don't think drafting a PF is the right move unless they are by far the best player.

Make some trades and I'll change my mind...

Mullins is the darko of this draft. Stay away at all costs.

He couldn't even start at OHIO STATE. That should send up some kind of a red flag even if you haven't seen him play.

Well, Mullins is nothing like him as a player. Darko fancied himself as a point forward (like Kukoc). Mullins has been a center from the get go. Yes, he's a project, but he also knows what kind of role he is going to be in.

NBAdraft.net compares him to Kamen. I guess I could see that. When Kamen was a freshman at CMU (I went to almost every game) he was pretty raw. He probably only put up 8 points and 5 rebounds a night off the bench. He couldn't get the starting role even though our C was 6'8" and our PF was 6'5". his hands were like clubs (couldn't catch a damn thing) and he got in foul trouble a lot.

Mullins could be a player in a few years. I'd rather have a project center than an undersized PF with a limited skill set that will not be more than a role player ever.

IF undersized Blair is the BPA then draft him. Fuck Maxiell.

We don't have the luxury of passing up quality players because of depth. IMO no team should ever do that.

You take the BPA and let the depth chart work itself out. If you wanna make a trade later to fill another need/position you can.

BTW, Draft Express has us passing on Lawson and James Johnson!