Supposed moderate. Thoughts? Too liberal Tahoe/Will?

Affirmative action seems to be a GOP keyword. I hate AA, I'll have to look into this.

Over 50 is too old.

I'd love to get a SCOTUS judge who didn't come up through the traditional judicial ranks. I like the concept of someone like Granholm more than I like Granholm herself for SCOTUS.

Didn't she pitch for the Reds in the 70's?

Way, WAY tooooooooooo liberal. Activist judge with an agenda.

^ Did you expect anything else?

Way, WAY tooooooooooo liberal. Activist judge with an agenda.

^ Did you expect anything else?

George W appointed her BTW

I'll post of couple of quotes of hers that if in the reverse (meaining a white man said it) y'alls panties would be up in a bunch.

But who gives a fuck, Mr T is going to do whatever the fuck he wants.

Oh yea, 1 more thing...of course Mr T says WE NEED TO DO THIS QUICKLY.

EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE QUICKLY. DON'T READ THE 1 TRILLION DOLLAR BILL, JUST VOTE YES ON IT. CONFIRM THE HHS OR SOMETHING OR OTHER CUZ WE HAVE PIG FLU.

EVERYTHING IS AN EMERGENCY. DON'T THINK, JUST VOTE YES.

DON'T READ BILLS....EVEN THOUGH I SAID I'D POST EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH. JUST VOTE THE WAY I SAY TO.

She said that the idea that a wise man and a wise woman would come to the same conclusion was flawed because a wise latino woman would have more life experience from which to draw wisdom than a wise white man and so would arrive at the better answer.

She said it more concisely however.

She said that the idea that a wise man and a wise woman would come to the same conclusion was flawed because a wise latino woman would have more life experience from which to draw wisdom than a wise white man and so would arrive at the better answer.

She said it more concisely however.

That would mean Gl'enn is dumber than a wise latino woman?

http://hissip.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/rosieperez.jpg

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http://www.danzig-verotik.com/danzig/photo/5finger/vid10.jpg

We need empathetic judge so that empathetic person can interpret the Constitution.

And BO now tells us what she 'really' meant. lol

Sam Alito during confirmation-

When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.

RACIST!!! Tahoe, is it to late to get this guy of the bench and have him....wait....I'm hearing it is too late.....well, can't let it happen again, can we?!?!

^ Daily Kos?

Alito = Not activist

The Mayor = Activist

Tahoe tells us what Alito really meant.

fuck if I know.

He was prolly trying to pull at your heart strings. Those fuzzy, touchy, feely things is what makes libs tick afterall. You done been duped.

^ Daily Kos?


No, quote of Samuel Alito. Doubt Kos was even there for the hearing.

Duped? Don't we usually go to war after the gov'mint lies to us?

Move On ?

MSNBC?

fuck if I know.

He was prolly trying to pull at your heart strings. Those fuzzy, touchy, feely things is what makes libs tick afterall. You done been duped.


Yeah, by a racist. Someone should call on him to resign.

MSNBC?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Justice_Alito_official.jpg

Racist.

w;dr

Duped? Don't we usually go to war after the gov'mint lies to us?

Did Bush cover every inch of ground in Iraq? Did he KNOW for a fact that Iraq didn't have wmd's?

To lie about something, you have to know the opposite is true.

Russian, Brits, Clintons, Gores, Libs, everyone thought they had them.

Provide a link where Allito said he can make a decision better cuz of his race and we'll talk Hermy.

Provide a link where Allito said he can make a decision better cuz of his race and we'll talk Hermy.


Do the same for Mayor. She never said she could. She said she hoped.

^ LMMFAO

She said she expected someone with greater life experience would make better decisions. Tahoe is just being partisan.

She said she expected someone with greater life experience would make better decisions. Tahoe is just being partisan.

Greater life experience?

based on that...

Would make better decisions?

Is that how you read that?

lemme go fill up my pineapple juice and rum.

That's what she said. I've both read it and listened to it.

Being a latina would make her better to make decisions.

We need empathetic judge so that empathetic person can interpret the Constitution.

It's not just about interpreting the Constitution, unfortunately. Most law that is decided on under SCOTUS has little to do with the Constitution except in a very generic sense.


And BO now tells us what she 'really' meant. lol
I think BO understands the problems of speaking about racial issues better than most. That said, I prefer reading the original text of the speech and making my own judgements:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?_r=2

And some of Sotomayor's sentiment is backed up by reviews of judicial review panels, comparing all-male panels vs. mixed on gender issues:

http://epstein.law.northwestern.edu/research/genderjudging.html

Note that my initial post still applies. I'd have preferred someone younger and outside the traditional judicial progression. I know that wouldn't fly with the court of public opinion, but I really think SCOTUS needs fresh perspectives. SCOTUS is far too schooled in selective myopia for my tastes, to the point where sense (common or otherwise) often gets thrown out the window. I don't think it's a partisan issue, but a cultural one.

Being a latina would make her better to make decisions.

Good. That's not what she said, now try typing what she did say.

I basically ask two things of judges:

1) That their understanding of law runs both wide and deep
2) That they aren't compromised by having some kind of rage that makes them go nonlinear when presented with some crank issue

#1 is not that hard to find - people with good knowledge of law are practicing lawyers and they're everywhere. People with great knowledge of law can make it to the Appeals courts.

#2 is a little harder to do. Our society sort of enshrines the notion of "righteous anger" that encourages people to do crazy things even when motivated by right interests (see: George Tiller). A good judge, or even a good Justice, has equanimity and dispassion, and those qualities are mocked by the conventionally ignorant.

Judge Sotomayor seems to meet #1 admirably. #2 takes a lot longer to find out, and while it seems like she has seen some things through the lens of ethnic pride, I think she could be OK in this area. She has already shown that her religion doesn't necessarily define her legal opinions, and I think that's a good sign.

if 2 isn't clear 1 sure as fuck isn't.

if 2 isn't clear 1 sure as fuck isn't.

For 200 years we had a "quota system"--only it was white men, which Tahoe probably gives his blind seal of approval to. Now, we have a prez (or 2) who says, "Hey, it's about time we had some other people on board and yeah, just because they are qualified and have diferent colored skin" Sooo, the douchebags like Tahoe start jumping up and down screaming "Constitution! Constitution! We CAN'T have judges legislating from the bench! IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION!"

And a guy like me says: "Well, the constitution was drawn up by a bunch of hypocrites. And besides, for 200 years, right wing nut bags legislated from the bench, only white men liked the results, so it was OK!" And Tahoe and his cronies say: Hey Mohterfucker, when OTHER people get the benefit of the doubt, it just ain';t fair! It's against the constitution!"

I bet Tahoe employs illegal Mexicans on his house building crews, just like his hero Rush Lijmbaugh employed illegal Mexicans to buy his drugs for him.

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/06/corker_blows_off_meeting_with.php


Sen. Bob Corker blew off his meeting with Sonia Sotomayor last week. Hobbling along with her leg in a cast, she was 10 minutes late and he said he didn't feel like waiting. "I decided to proceed on to the next meeting," he told a Tennessee Press Association breakfast in Chattanooga. Oh well, it's only the Supreme Court.

Good for him. I like that guy.

Good for him. I like that guy. We already have enough people on the Supreme Court who probably spent their entire youth on public assistance (Clarence Thomas) and we have enough bitchezz already.

I guess that 'richness' of hers isn't...always richness.

Hunh? Is this about the Ricci vs. DeStefano verdict? Basically, a panel of judges including Sotomayor said that their hands were tied by precedent, and effectively forced to deny (among others) a Latino promotion. SCOTUS untied their hands, while raising a lot of new questions in the process. Are you yipping because she didn't legislate from the bench while SCOTUS did, or because she didn't demonstrate clear bias in favor of the Hispanic?

LOL

Hunh? Is this about the Ricci vs. DeStefano verdict? Basically, a panel of judges including Sotomayor said that their hands were tied by precedent, and effectively forced to deny (among others) a Latino promotion. SCOTUS untied their hands, while raising a lot of new questions in the process. Are you yipping because she didn't legislate from the bench while SCOTUS did, or because she didn't demonstrate clear bias in favor of the Hispanic?

I can't believe the spin.

I know...shes a fuckin Angel from Heaven sent down to be by the Messiahs side.

I can't believe the spin.

I know...shes a fuckin Angel from Heaven sent down to be by the Messiahs side.

And that's not spin on your part?

For various reasons, I've been familiar with the crappy legal framework involved in Ricci vs. DeStefano for quite awhile. As part of a review panel, Sotomayor did the legally correct thing in letting the original court verdict stand (and that is the entirety of her involvement - there wasn't a separate re-trial). "Correct" isn't necessarily fair, just, or right. I think SCOTUS has _started_ on the path where we _could_ end up doing the right thing in such cases, but for now, they have insured more lawsuits and stupidity along the way. The only real winners in this verdict will be the attorneys. Note the lack of a prescribed remedy for Ricci. So he was wronged... now what?

The law says that even unintended racial impact is still against the law. As a consequence, the precedent to bring such cases to court has been set fairly low. Just look at the impact for a hiring or promotional criteria, and see if there's some clear racial divide. If it goes to court, then it's up to the city or other employer to _prove_ that tests with disparate impact were necessary, and they're basically guilty until they prove themselves innocent. In cases where such tests resulted in disparate impact, the law was established that it was "ok" to throw them out. SCOTUS changed that. Now, employers are compelled to defend such tests when they lead to disparate impact.

The "funny" thing is -- employers who use written tests as the criterion for promotions are doing so because they desperately want the appearance of impartiality. They don't want to be seen as being very actively judgmental, especially where any such decisions run the risk of a lawsuit and losing money that could better be spent on, say, fire trucks. Lots of upper-crust folks like written tests because that's how they got their advanced degrees. OF course, most jobs aren't about taking written tests, so it's often easy to argue against them altogether when they show bias. You don't think there were fire chiefs and such long before there were written tests? Again, the lawyers won this case, and will be fueled with our tax dollars. Oh what fun!

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/14/sotomayor-surprises-sessions/

Those who can, do. Those who can't, run for office.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/14/sotomayor-surprises-sessions/

Instant classic.

So...it took all of - what, 5 minutes? - before the hearing turned into a joke today. Outstanding work, gentlemen.

Yeah, she is awesome. I mean a true work of art. Fantibulous!

http://img2.raidpic.com/15terry.jpg

Did she elected?

Did she elected?

Sure not I'm.

I believe she was confirmed yesterday (vote was 60-32 when I last saw it).

Of course this isn't a surprise--However, I think that as a conservative, there were far worse people he could've chosen for the position (Granholm, Deval Patrick, Napolitano, Kagan).

Sotomayor = Souter, I have no problem with it.

Ledezma.

Terrible.

Makes up vote counts.



http://bit.ly/12H5Lc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090806/ap_on_go_su_co/us_sotomayor_senate;_ylt=AnEvdmrldcvfZ_D4YpxULQms0 NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTMxOGdhZnZmBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwODA2L 3VzX3NvdG9tYXlvcl9zZW5hdGUEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMyBHB0A2h vbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNzZW5hdGVwb 2lzZWQ-)

The full Senate will vote on Sotomayor's nomination at 3 p.m. EDT today (Thursday), following a three-day floor debate. She could receive as many as 67 votes in her favor. Nine Republicans have said they will support the New York federal appeals judge. Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) and Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio), said this morning that they would vote for Sotomayor.

I bet there is a neocon "random vote count generator" site out there somewhere.

68-31

FINAL SCORE

Even though Clarence Thomas is nothing more than a sock puppet for the Right Wing, this is so cool because now we have Hispanics, Blacks, and Bitchezz routinely in the higher offices of this most racially fucked up and torn country. The Equal Opportunity shit is finally beginning to actually look like it might be approaching something called a fair chance for just about almost anyone. Now, granted, Clarence Thomas is probably in because he is married to a white woman, but damn, Byron De La Beckwith would be out killin' motherfuckers if he saw things the way day izz now!

Of course, there's still Wil Ledezma to remind us that the world probably really still isn't safe for democracy just yet.

Dear Denny,

This is a truly historic time to be an American -- last Thursday the U.S. Senate confirmed Sonia Sotomayor by a 68-31 vote as the very first Hispanic woman to join the Supreme Court and Saturday she was sworn into office.

I can't tell you how proud I am to see our nation's highest court become more reflective of a nation as wonderfully diverse as ours, especially with someone as talented and qualified as Justice Sotomayor.

In a time of such outright partisan obstruction from Republicans, seeing the right thing for America come to pass is worth celebrating.

So I hope you'll join me in sending our newest Supreme Court justice a note of congratulations by clicking here (http://www.democraticgovernors.org/page/s/SoniaSotomayor) -- you can even add your own personal message for Justice Sotomayor.

When President Obama nominated Sotomayor, the conservative critics railed against her because they want a court that defends the status quo.

But now we have a wholly unique perspective on the Supreme Court, a justice who reflects the America that you and I believe in -- who reflects the values and goals shared by the millions who voted for Barack Obama last November.

You and I will be looking back on this time as a great milestone in our nation's history.

As the President said, this vote is "breaking another barrier and moving us yet another step closer to a more perfect union."

Click here to let Justice Sonia Sotomayor know you're behind her 100 percent and add your voice to ours as we congratulate her on this historic confirmation.

Together we'll let her know we believe in not only her ability to wield the power of her position with absolute judicial fairness, but also with a perspective held by no one else on the Court yet.

Thank you for helping send this message to Justice Sotomayor.

Sincerely,

Gov. Brian Schweitzer
Chair, DGA

Click that shit, Tahoe. Let your disapproving voice be heard!!!

GOD DAMMIT THAT SOTOMAYOR HAS BEEN A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE FOR 5 MINUTES NOW AND THE GODDAMN BREAD LINE IS ALREADY GETTING LONGER

I'd hit it.

She'll assist Obama in fucking up the country, thats for sure.

She'll assist Obama in fucking up the country, thats for sure.


after all the hard work by bushco to make sure the country would be in great shape for the next pres!