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Can't see that fat turd's team winning more than a game or two with that shit offense against a great defense.

We're about to find out how good Dwight Howard really is.

Should at least be interesting, since Boston had no interior at all.

I voted Cavs in 5, thinking cavs rust gives the magic a shot at stealing game one.

I agree with you on this one (Cavs in 5). Those darn threes will fall in at least one game at home.

Call it "Amway Magic".

Or it could be a sweep.

Going to the foul line, stopping the game, destroys three point rhythm.

Well, the jumpers fell last night (55% from the floor).

That Varejao flop was utterly amazing.

The acting skills, the drama.

Actually, fuck that guy, I don't want him here now.

I missed the flop. Hopefully I get to see it soon.

Or not.

He grasped his throat and was convulsing on the floor.

Replay showed that he didn't get hit anywhere near his throat.

Collins and Marv were completely silent when the replay was shown.

I will never ever EVER cheer for the Orlando Magic but when I checked Yahoo today I came very, very close to doing so.

Here's hoping they can bring it in the next game. If Lebron is injured they could steal both games in Cleveland! WOW! Can't believe I typed that.

BTW, how pissed would Lebron be after scoring 49 points and then they fucking lost? I would be killing fuckers in that locker room. The Cavs scored 106! Fuck me - Lebron nearly got half of 'em!

I will never ever EVER cheer for the Orlando Magic but when I checked Yahoo today I came very, very close to doing so.


Fuck that. I am rooting for the Magic.

I ain't cheering for that fucking franchise.

I remember when they had a hard working team that almost made the playoffs and they fucking shipped all those dudes out to chase the star players (McGrady and Hill signed - they flirted with Duncan)

That showed that the Orlando Magic had no loyalty, no honour and no code.

You reward those players that worked their asses off. If I was an owner I would rather be known as the guy who owned the hardest working team in the NBA than be known as the owner of the injury prone wanna be Jordan and Pippen, small town thinking, no loyalty having, bullshit Tragic.

I don't like the Magic, but I'm not ashamed to say I'm rooting for them to beat fucking Cleveland.

Fuck Cleveland more than Fuck Orlando = me rooting for the Magic this series.

I want the Magic to win because they would get obliterated by the Lakers or Nuggets in the Finals.

Whereas the Cavs may be able to beat the Lakers or Nuggets, and I don't want that city to win a championsip.

If mo made that shot, that would be shot of his lifetime,shot of the century.

Interesting to see Lebron pass up the potential game winner though.

I'm rooting for Orlando. I hate the Cavs. I don't like Orlando, but I agree they won't beat LA or Denver. They are taking advantage of the fact that the Cavs big men are big and slow and can't stay with Lewis or Turk. That wouldn't happen against the west teams. Odom and Walton have the size and speed to guard those two. So do Melo and Kmart.

I'm not sure Orlando can do this 4 times, but I know they can't against the west teams because they won't get those mismatches.

If, by some miracle, the Magic were to win the whole thing, would they be the worst NBA Championship team ever?

Worse than the Heat?

Way worse than the heat. At least the heat had Shaq and Wade. Orlando has one good big man and a bunch of jump shooters around him.

This is what happens when we aren't good. Pussies become NBA champions. The teal era was a blight on the league, not just Detroit.

The win by Orlando just shows what the NBA has become.

Detroit is a team from a bygone era, constructed under the old "system".

The NBA is completely different now. It's time to get with the times IMO.

Its really hard to NOT pull for the Omag. But its about the Paca thing.

No loyalty, no honour = No Pharaoh support.

I don't support the Cavs either.

Fuck both those teams.

BTW, how tall is the Cavs backcourt? I don't see their size being mentioned as a possible match-up problem for them. I thought both West and Williams were under 6'3"?

hedo is clutch--

nevermind..crazy fucking shot

Anyone see that the other day Lebron was saying that Pavlovic should play cause if he's "mentally in tune" with what's going on it would really help West and Lebron on both ends of the floor?

Guess who got significant playing time in Game 2?

LMAO @ the Coach of the Year.

Which reminds me: Less than a week after Brown was named COTY there was a recap of a Cavs game on Yahoo where Brown actually said "I just give him the ball. That's my coaching" or something like that.

It boggles my mind that this bum gets such praise for the Cavs success.

Nice Coaching so far v Orlando dickhead.

Wow.

24.

I can't believe Orland and Denver are going to be in the Finals.

Man Cleveland and LA are lucky not to be down 2-0

Maybe we aren't so far away from being a contender again...

Stop fooling yourself Pharaoh - your drunk and Scotch is fucking with you.

Mo Williams flopped

Orlando really grew some balls after the Game 5 meltdown against the Celtics. People were ripping on Stan Van Gundy again, others were criticizing Dwight Howard, people (including me) saying they were finished, Game 7 on the road.

If they win here, that's the moment i'm going to point to

And Orlando won!

So, if you take away that "OMG, he's better than Jordan" fucking bullshit 3 pointer the Cavs are down 0-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Didn't someone say they were unstoppable? Looks like Orlando know what they're doing. I hope Joe and Curry are taking notes.

can someone explain to me why the Magic are actually a good defensiv team this season? i know they got Dwight in the middle, but Shard, Hedo, Alston all suck on D?!

the Cavs really struggle with the matchup problems, they don't got a player like Perkins,Sheed who can keep Dwight in front of him at Center and the other Cavs frontcourt players won't always come out to Lewis at the 3 point line...

From what I can see, they are just really good at defensive rotations. Sometimes they let Big Z get his long open jumper but have done a decent job of closing everyone else out.

Also keep in mind they are not always doubling Lebron, at least not until he gets into the paint. that means less wide open shots outside. Even a mediocre defender guarding a man is better than NO defense.

I'm not sure, but I think that's what the Spurs did, single Lebron until he gets to around the FT line then pick him up on double. I barely watched that boring ass series so i'm not sure.

Metro is basically correct, especially with the way the Spurs defended Lebron.

The problem many teams get into v the Cavs or Lakers (or any team with a gunslinger) is that they focus too much on that superstar.

Remember when we used to smash everyone? It's cause we played everyone straight up, even poor Ben on Shaq. So what if Lebron gets 40? If no one else gets on a roll and scores 20 then you win the fucking game.

We started that shit v the Bulls. Jordan can get 50 but everyone else will get next to nothing. Times haven't changed that much IMO. You just can't hit people no more.

That's why the Spurs were smart against Lebron, why the Lakers were smart against Duncan (in the post they only doubled when he made his move towards the hoop) and why the best teams are always one of the best defensive teams.

Nuggets are doing that with Kobe too. They let Jones or Billups play him straight up mostly. Kobe made some ridiculous shots late in that game, but nobody else was in the flow of the game late. They even have AC on him when he's in there. kobe scores, but nobody else had any offensive rhythm (Gasol is getting his off rebounds mostly).

While I am surprised that the Cavs have reverted to their old "stand around and watch LeBron" ways, I'm still thinking Cavs in 7.

If they win tonight, they'll have HCA back.

Cavs’ Wallace angered over Van Gundy ‘flop’ remark
41 minutes ago

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP)—Cleveland Cavaliers center Ben Wallace is upset with Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy for accusing him of flopping.

Van Gundy said Monday he was bothered by the number of times Cleveland guard Mo Williams and Wallace dropped to the floor in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference finals. He said the pair fell down more times than a baby.

Wallace is one of the NBA’s most intimidating players. When asked about Van Gundy’s comments during Tuesday’s shootaround before Game 4, Wallace said Van Gundy should shut up, adding an expletive for emphasis.

Van Gundy made the same claims about Shaquille O’Neal this season, and the coach later apologized.

What if Gilbert had moved Wally's expiring contract for another impact player?

I think they definitely could have helped their chances but chose not to take on the $.

Oh SNAP!

Rigged League

Anyone still want to tell me the league isn't doing everything in it's power to get LeBron in the finals obviously hasn't been watching game 4. Fucking horseshit.

I have NEVER disliked a player more than Varejao. I actually want to hurt him...

Holy shit, I doubt ORL can close this series out... but that would be damn sweet.

That was one of the most ridiculous no calls I have ever seen. Varejao rode Howard 8 feet away from the basket. I mean the only thing more Varejao could've done is tackle Howard. Thank God Orlando won that in OT. Orlando in 6.

I also love how the only possible scenarios left are the ones without any votes in the poll.

5 people voted.

Still all for the cavs.

I'm not a big Brown fan. Cavs need a coach.

It was a horseshit no call.

BTW, Mike Brown is an idiot. I like Charles ripping him after the game for letting Howard dunk the ball 3 straight times to start OT. What, you can't put Ben in there and send Howard to the line at all? Horrible coaching.

And he didn't even coach the team for the final play in OT, he let his "offensive coordinator" John Kuestner run the huddle.

COY.

The Varajejojo (or whatever the fuck his name is) call, IMO, wasn't nearly as bad as:

a) the phantom Technical on Howard. One more and he's out a game. Somebody gimmie the odds in Vegas that the Association will nail him with one to get him out of Game 6. BTW, Vararjejojo was ALL OVER HIM on that play, and no call was made.

b) LeBron's drive at the end of regulation. I don't give a flying horseshit WHAT that fat fuck Sir Charles said, LeBron flopped! LeBron extended his forearm and pushed Pietrus. When Pietrus backed off, LeBron fell forward.... and THAT'S a defensive foul?????

Stand by for the worst officiated game in the history of the league, a.k.a. Game 5.

Lebron tripped over his own feet when he couldn't lean on Pietrus. That was bogus.

John Kuestner is a North Carloina dude IIRC.

He also once was assistant to Larry Brown (for a while) IIRC

If I was a shitty fucking coach and shitting myself and I looked over and saw good ol' John Boy on my bench Id have him run the team too.

But if I won COY I would at least mention my staff by name.

Mike Brown didn't.

I noticed that and though: "Mike Brown is a bunch of cunts".

BTW, Magic up 3-1!!!!!!!!!

This would have been a sweep without that bullshit 3 pointer.

DAMN! That's insane.

It's a pity Lebron didn't get swept out of the playoffs for the 2nd straight year. That would have been funny.

If they lose tonight at home, after the regular season that they had, it would be completely soul crushing for Cleveland sports fans.

*giggles*

And you can also turn up the "LeBron is gonna leave us" panic meter to full blast if they lose tonight.

^ And he will do nothing to reassure the Cavs fans he's staying. He plays this shit like Favre played he retirement

^ And he will do nothing to reassure the Cavs fans he's staying. He plays this shit like Favre played he retirement

It benefits him not to reassure them. Right now he could tell management what moves to make and they'd do it.

It benefits him not to reassure them. Right now he could tell management what moves to make and they'd do it.

Exactly.

well, that ultimately benefits the team as well. Assuming they get him a legit #2 option in there and he stays...that's their best chance to win.

If they simply keep side show and wally (or replace him with a MLE wing) and don't win it all, they'll be screwed. They'll have no space if Lebron stays, and only enough for one star if he goes. So they'd replace him with Marion or someone that can't carry the role players like Lebron did.

They need to make a major move (like moving Big Z) to shake things up.

Yao.

Yao what? Yao/Mo Williams/Side Show would be worse than the team Yao has now. They can't afford him with James still there either.

They could probably get Redd for Big Z. It would give the Bucks good money to sign a FA in 2010. It would give Lebron a legit #2 scorer. It would also create PT for Alexander. Big Z and Sasha for Redd and Gadz?

With the Chinese investors buying a piece of the Cavs (and they bought the arena) earlier this week, there are a lot of rumors that they'll target Yao, somehow.

Don't ask me how.

They want to be "China's Team" and Bron seems like he is onboard with it.

How would Stern know if Yao's bank account in China ended up having a couple 10 million extra in it at the end of the year.

dumb question...Is there steroid testing in the NBA?

I can't keep track of which league tests for what?

Nice to see that Varejao flop get the no-call.

In retrospect, it was foolish to throw away my alpaca hoard betting Orlando would close out on the road. I think tonight's their night though. The way they've controlled this series it's unthinkable that lebron could bend them over and cornhole his way to another finals trip. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/series?series=cledet)

LOL @ chanting MVP. It seems more like the are mocking LeBron then rooting for Howard.

It'll be interesting to see how good Howard is...over the finals and next year, etc.

It will be. Bynum is the only guy the Lakers have that can body Howard so if Bynum doesn't play well Howard might have similar stats next round.

I honestly didn't see the OMag as even a possibility to take the title this year.

oh and Reggie starting the LBJ FA talk already.

40 and 14 for Howard.

Thank God for the Magic

It's always good to see not-Cleveland in the Finals.

Wow...That is the weakest "don't fire me", "cya" post game presser I've seen in a while.

I'd fire YOU Coach Brown.

Tonight was a very good night.

LBJ runs and hides in the bus. WTF?

What a puss!

Someone needs to take advantage of the sad cavs fans over at realcavsfans.com

Nothing like kicking someone when they are down

LBJ runs and hides in the bus. WTF?

What a puss!
Is this for real?

there are gonna be a million lebron rumors this offseason

Fuck Lebron - nothing is easy you young punk.

Jordan didn't win a ring until he was 27. So you can fucking wait too.

(Kobe doesn't count cause he had Shaq)

I hope and pray Mike Brown gets fired (unlikely) and that the rumours of Lebron leaving go into overdrive for the next 12 months (likely).

I wonder what the Cavs are gonna do to get better?

And I wonder how we can stop them....

Aside from how happy I am about Cleveland and Lebron getting fucked, I'm also happy because I though the Magic absolutely played better than the Cavs and it's nice to see a team that really is a team win. I really enjoyed the way the Magic would play during some of those comeback stretches.

i thought the Magic would be swept lol...you have to give SvG and Orlando some credit, played great and the Cavs never could solve the matchup problems...the Lakers frontcourt is more talented than any of those eastcaost teams, so that will be interessting..

There was some serious 2004 Pistons vs. Lakers with the way the Magic beat the Cavs. Just the worst possible matchup for Cleveland.

Btw, I'm anxiously awaiting the Kobe Bryant - Stan Van Gundy rap duet "Shaq, how my ass taste?"

Is this for real?

Thats what NBA TV said. Not run to the bus, but they said he grabbed his gear and went to the bus. No interviews, no nothing.

I can't seem to find any pics of LeBron with his tail between his legs.

So, he didn't shake hands with Howard, didn't do a post game interview and just skipped out like a punk bitch?

LMAO

It's just a pity the media won't kill him for it like they did us.

But different era, different league.

This NBA is bowing at his feet, hoping that he can lead them to higher ratings, more endorsements and a higher global profile.

Back in the day the league had Jordan for all that and we were just "thugs" who stood in his way for far too long.

I hate the Magic, but here's hoping they (or better yet - us) stand in Lebron's way for a long time to come.

So, he didn't shake hands with Howard, didn't do a post game interview and just skipped out like a punk bitch?

LMAO

It's just a pity the media won't kill him for it like they did us.

But different era, different league.

This NBA is bowing at his feet, hoping that he can lead them to higher ratings, more endorsements and a higher global profile.

Back in the day the league had Jordan for all that and we were just "thugs" who stood in his way for far too long.

I hate the Magic, but here's hoping they (or better yet - us) stand in Lebron's way for a long time to come.

:we: were also the "thugs" that didn't shake Jordan's hand

arent lebron and dwight pretty close friends anyways? fucking punkass

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