Draft Dejaun Blair
Sign Ron Artest

Thats all that comes to mind right now

Rip might not throw down but he's a pretty tough player.

i want blair.....artest, not so much.

Hermy stated why we can't ever have Artest on the roster.

And Blair? I'm not a fan of adding another undersized PF considering the last one we drafted hasn't lived up to my expectations.

However if Blair is the best player available when we pick then we should Draft him. That's all I ever want - the best player available.

No Artest. Not after what happened.

Dude stuck up for himself. Exactly why he belongs on the All Badass team.

no he didn't. sticking up for himself would've been confronting the guy who challenged him when he got pushed- ben wallace. but artest was smart enough to know he was no match for ben. he punked out and 'stuck up for himself' against a skinny little dude who he thought had thrown a plastic cup of water at him.

that's not sticking up for yourself. that's bitching out and redirecting your anger against somebody you actually have a chance at beating. artest is no tough guy. he's a punk and always will be a punk.

it just so happens that he's also a hell of a player too. but not one who could ever play in detroit.

no he didn't. sticking up for himself would've been confronting the guy who challenged him when he got pushed- ben wallace. but artest was smart enough to know he was no match for ben. he punked out and 'stuck up for himself' against a skinny little dude who he thought had thrown a plastic cup of water at him.

that's not sticking up for yourself. that's bitching out and redirecting your anger against somebody you actually have a chance at beating. artest is no tough guy. he's a punk and always will be a punk.

it just so happens that he's also a hell of a player too. but not one who could ever play in detroit.

LMAO

Artest is a trained boxer. He would have destroyed Ben Wallace.

The fact is he did stick up for himself. He was already restraining himself, then a certain fan threw a drink and then it was on. If someone threw a drink at me, I would fuck him up.

ISWTIDH, BTW

Artest is a trained boxer. He would have destroyed Ben Wallace.

The fact is he did stick up for himself. He was already restraining himself, then a certain fan threw a drink and then it was on. If someone threw a drink at me, I would fuck him up.


I was a bouncer when someone threw a beer at me. it was in a glass. I restrained myself because I was being paid $11 an hour.

Are we so mad at the current Pistons that we're now blaming Ben Wallace for the brawl? And we're making a sympathetic case for Artest?

Jesus Curry has fucked up this organization...

Yep, I can imagine Artest and Sheed on the court together. The refs would call a T even before the tip-off, for "preventive maintenance" purposes.

I was a bouncer when someone threw a beer at me. it was in a glass. I restrained myself because I was being paid $11 an hour.

HRH

All-badass team? I want these guys:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0307/nba_g_daly_300.jpg

ISWTIDH, BTW

Just got it.

Definately the guy on the right, Gee. Dumars...a gentle man.

WTF...Artest listed at 260 and Ben at 240? That can't be right.

Artest is a trained boxer. He would have destroyed Ben Wallace.

The fact is he did stick up for himself. He was already restraining himself, then a certain fan threw a drink and then it was on. If someone threw a drink at me, I would fuck him up.


I'd probably make sure that I had the right guy first...

I'd probably make sure that I had the right guy first...

He didn't, which puts him on the all badass team.

Is Mike Tyson on the all baddass team too?

So Artest is a baddass because he attacked a guy who he thought threw a cup of water/beer/piss at him?

LMAO - he's a fucking dickhead.

And he was restraining himself before he was attacked by this big, gigantic flying cup?

WTF?

Laying on the scorer's table is not restraining yourself. That's being a fucking dickhead.

You guys might be offended by this but who cares: The fact that this fucker was able to fight in the stands and get out without an injury is laughable to me.

The city that was home to the Bad Boys let this wanker loose in the crowd and no fans ganged up on him and took him down? Try that shit here in Australia - he'd get fucking smashed.

We tell the world we're all laid back and cool and shit - and we are ...

But if you wanna fuck with us we will smash your head into the next fucking century. Our SAS troops fucking kick ass worldwide. Our troops are known for their courage and ass kicking ability.

We are such a tiny little country on this shitty planet and we more than hold our own on the world stage in almost every fucking sport (not ice hockey cause we're like the African-Americans - heat the fucking rink or we don't play).

If a player in any sport went into the stands and tried to fight someone he'd be tackled and taken down in a heartbeat. Maybe that's cause we play rugby league and Australian Rules football where we don't wear pads on every fucking limb like little kids riding skateboards?

You would have taken a pool cue to Ron Ron, I bet.

So Artest is a baddass because he attacked a guy who he thought threw a cup of water/beer/piss at him?


LMAO - he's a fucking dickhead.


And he was restraining himself before he was attacked by this big, gigantic flying cup?

WTF?

Laying on the scorer's table is not restraining yourself. That's being a fucking dickhead.

You guys might be offended by this but who cares: The fact that this fucker was able to fight in the stands and get out without an injury is laughable to me.

The city that was home to the Bad Boys let this wanker loose in the crowd and no fans ganged up on him and took him down? Try that shit here in Australia - he'd get fucking smashed.

We tell the world we're all laid back and cool and shit - and we are ...

But if you wanna fuck with us we will smash your head into the next fucking century. Our SAS troops fucking kick ass worldwide. Our troops are known for their courage and ass kicking ability.

We are such a tiny little country on this shitty planet and we more than hold our own on the world stage in almost every fucking sport (not ice hockey cause we're like the African-Americans - heat the fucking rink or we don't play).

If a player in any sport went into the stands and tried to fight someone he'd be tackled and taken down in a heartbeat. Maybe that's cause we play rugby league and Australian Rules football where we don't wear pads on every fucking limb like little kids riding skateboards?

This must be one of those preaching things or something (you know bark is worse than his bite), cuz I'm not following...Artest isn't and the fans aren't and Aussies are or some fucked up shit.

Rant away, but I can't tell what the fuck you are ranting about.

Reading is fundamental, Tahoe.

I'll break it down for you:

I can't believe that the home of the Bad Boys allowed Artest to do what he did.

You can bet your tiny nutsack that if an opposing player jumped into the crowd here in Australia the guy would be carried out on a stretcher.

Cause we're tough - not like you pussy yanks. It might have something to do with the fact males here grow up on real football, not the Maxipad League.

Got that, T?

And Glenn - where the fuck am I gonna find a pool cue in the Palace?

If I was there I would have found something to hit the cunt with. Naturally I would have been fighting one on one cause no Piston fan did shit to those Pacers. Grab a bigger cup (lmao) and smash him. I'm surprised someone didn't hit him with a manbag.

They were Pacers! Does anyone remember how much we hated them?

They were fucking Indiana Pacers! Fuck 'em!

lol- i agree with much of what you said pharoah. in all fairness i must point out that artest and jackson charged into the EXPENSIVE seats which were close to the floor. typically those are the seats that people who WOULD have jumped the pacers are not seated. if they had gone into the crowd a couple dozen rows higher, it probably would've been a different story.

but i agree- australia, europe and england are WAAAAAY crazier about their sports. not sure exactly why that is. but wear an opposing team's jersey at a home game in the US, and you will have to hear a lot of grief from the home fans. might even be a few who try to instigate a fist fight.

do that shit in europe and they won't even let you sit in certain sections. and even then, you could get killed for that shit. it's insane.

i agree with you about artest though- he's a pussy and i don't give a damn if he's a 'trained boxer' or whatever. i know plenty of dude's from the slum who would beat 'trained boxers' till they pissed themselves. that doesn't make him a tough guy at all.

I think P is full of shit most of the time.

Reading is fundamental, Tahoe.

I'll break it down for you:

I can't believe that the home of the Bad Boys allowed Artest to do what he did.

You can bet your tiny nutsack that if an opposing player jumped into the crowd here in Australia the guy would be carried out on a stretcher.

Cause we're tough - not like you pussy yanks. It might have something to do with the fact males here grow up on real football, not the Maxipad League.

Got that, T?

And Glenn - where the fuck am I gonna find a pool cue in the Palace?

If I was there I would have found something to hit the cunt with. Naturally I would have been fighting one on one cause no Piston fan did shit to those Pacers. Grab a bigger cup (lmao) and smash him. I'm surprised someone didn't hit him with a manbag.

They were Pacers! Does anyone remember how much we hated them?

They were fucking Indiana Pacers! Fuck 'em!

Artest had the ball to go up into the stands at an away game. He has balls to do that. He is a badass. He might be a dumbfuck, but lack of balls is not, and has never been a problem for him.

The fan that threw the beer but shrunk in his chair when Artest came intot the stands is complete wus, imo.

As far as Aussies being tougher than Yanks? Don't really know, don't really care. Don't know any Aussies. I know there aren't many here cuz our hotties over here want someone with a brain and dick. Chicks tell me Aussies are lacking both. So Aussie men just go back down-under.

lol- i agree with much of what you said pharoah. in all fairness i must point out that artest and jackson charged into the EXPENSIVE seats which were close to the floor. typically those are the seats that people who WOULD have jumped the pacers are not seated. if they had gone into the crowd a couple dozen rows higher, it probably would've been a different story.

but i agree- australia, europe and england are WAAAAAY crazier about their sports. not sure exactly why that is. but wear an opposing team's jersey at a home game in the US, and you will have to hear a lot of grief from the home fans. might even be a few who try to instigate a fist fight.

do that shit in europe and they won't even let you sit in certain sections. and even then, you could get killed for that shit. it's insane.

i agree with you about artest though- he's a pussy and i don't give a damn if he's a 'trained boxer' or whatever. i know plenty of dude's from the slum who would beat 'trained boxers' till they pissed themselves. that doesn't make him a tough guy at all.

LMAO

He went pretty close to where the beer came from. Thats all. You think all that shit went through Artest and Jacksons minds? LOL

So Bogut is a badass?

I don't know. What'd he do?

LMAO

He went pretty close to where the beer came from. Thats all. You think all that shit went through Artest and Jacksons minds? LOL

no tahoe, read what i wrote and it would be clear what i said. i was saying that in response to pharoah expressing shock that the fans of detroit didn't jump on them and tear them apart. i said they were in the expensive seats and the fans in that section were not near as likely to retaliate as the ones further up. i never said that entered into artest or jackson's thought process. clearly they had no thought process as they're both dumbfucks. but i DO know they saw ben and knew they didn't want a piece of him.

so that comment had nothing to do with me questioning artest's toughness. i questioned his toughness based solely on the fact that he did nothing to respond to big ben, but was willing to go after some punk fans who had no chance against him.

that's not badass at all, except by your definition i guess. that's just bitchassness IMO. it's like the kid at school who the bully gives a wedgie- he doesn't do anything back to the bully- he goes over the the group of nerds and picks on one of them. is that badass? no, that's called misdirected anger. and it was directed at a group who he could scare, intimidate, and abuse. he couldn't do any of that to ben. artest wanted no part of him cause he knew he'd be in for one hell of a fight. but he had no problem going after fans that aren't anywhere near his level.

he is and always will be a punk IMO.

no tahoe, read what i wrote and it would be clear what i said. i was saying that in response to pharoah expressing shock that the fans of detroit didn't jump on them and tear them apart. i said they were in the expensive seats and the fans in that section were not near as likely to retaliate as the ones further up. i never said that entered into artest or jackson's thought process. clearly they had no thought process as they're both dumbfucks. but i DO know they saw ben and knew they didn't want a piece of him.

so that comment had nothing to do with me questioning artest's toughness. i questioned his toughness based solely on the fact that he did nothing to respond to big ben, but was willing to go after some punk fans who had no chance against him.

that's not badass at all, except by your definition i guess. that's just bitchassness IMO. it's like the kid at school who the bully gives a wedgie- he doesn't do anything back to the bully- he goes over the the group of nerds and picks on one of them. is that badass? no, that's called misdirected anger. and it was directed at a group who he could scare, intimidate, and abuse. he couldn't do any of that to ben. artest wanted no part of him cause he knew he'd be in for one hell of a fight. but he had no problem going after fans that aren't anywhere near his level.

he is and always will be a punk IMO.

He held his cool against Big Ben something that he was having a huge problem with in the past. He did the right thing. You think he was pussin out. You really don't have anything to back that up. He didn't retaliate.

But when the fan crossed the line and threw beer on him, it was on. Badass. He went into the stands full of 10-15k fans. Badass.

the fact he didn't retaliate and walked away from ben showed he pussed out. the man challenged him and pushed him. and he walked away. a 'badass' would have at least looked him in the eye and got chest to chest with him.

now YOU are saying that he thought this out because he walked away from ben because he 'had a problem with that in the past'. IRONY! now YOU are saying he thought this through and thought about how he'd been in trouble in the past so he decided not to retaliate.

REALLY? he thought it through that much, huh? but yet he didn't think it was a bad idea to charge into the stands. didn't think he'd get in trouble for that huh? lol- no offence to your personally, but i fail to see the logic in your position.

i've seen all kinds of guys do crazy things- like a guy i saw break a bottle over his own head in a bar once back in my college days. everyone thought he was some tough guy because he was so 'crazy' for doing that. but really i know he wasn't because he's the same guy who backed down from me when we got into it another time in the dorm. he was just one of those typical guys who knows who to mess with and who not to. he could intimidate some people, but not people who could put him in his place. he got this rep from some people as this tough guy. but in reality he really was just an idiot and a pussy who threw a tantrum when he couldn't take his anger out on the person he was upset with, because he knew he'd get embarassed again.

to me artest was the same in this instance. no doubt there are some people he could beat the hell out of them. ben is definitely not one of them and he knew that. i don't need anything to back that up because the video is evidence enough- he was challenged and he walked away. he was not exercising 'self control' or whatever you're trying to spin it as; he was showing he knew he had no business getting in a fight with ben.

otherwise he wouldn't have bitched out so bad with ben. he wanted no piece of him.

I just find it comical that you think Artest if afraid of Ben. Quit being a homer.

fuck Ron Artest, i don't care if he's a wannabe tough guy, he's not a winner and for a good reason, he's a fucking psycho, and he will never be a Pistons for sure

Definately a phycho.

BTW HW, where were all those badasses that were 12 rows up when Artest went into the stands? What's your cough cough reasoning there? They couldn't see him doing it cuz peeps were standing in front?

again, you're changing the argument. i'm not defending the 'toughness' of the fans. maybe they all realized it didn't involve them. or maybe they just realized artest is bigger than most of them. but that's not my point or my argument at all, so it doesn't really warrant a response.

i'm not a homer at all. i'm just being real and i call it like i see it; he bitched out for all to see.

but yeah he's an idiot and hardly worthy of this long argument. that much we can definitely agree on!

again, you're changing the argument. i'm not defending the 'toughness' of the fans. maybe they all realized it didn't involve them. or maybe they just realized artest is bigger than most of them. but that's not my point or my argument at all, so it doesn't really warrant a response.

i'm not a homer at all. i'm just being real and i call it like i see it; he bitched out for all to see.

but yeah he's an idiot and hardly worthy of this long argument. that much we can definitely agree on!

Yep.

But he's like Laimbeer to me. Other teams hated him, thought he was the dirtiest players, and as CD used to say, he was the first player he got a call about every summer to see if he was available.

If Artest came here, he'd prolly have a lot more support than you think.

of course he would; as jerry seinfeld jokes, fans cheer for jerseys not the players in them. i would root for him to do well no matter how much of a fuckin ass i think he is and no matter how much i don't want him on the team. but if he's on my team i have to find a way to root for him. i'm sure some would take it further and even begin to like him. that's the nature of sports.

doesn't mean he's not a complete punk-ass bitch though.

of course he would; as jerry seinfeld jokes, fans cheer for jerseys not the players in them. i would root for him to do well no matter how much of a fuckin ass i think he is and no matter how much i don't want him on the team. but if he's on my team i have to find a way to root for him. i'm sure some would take it further and even begin to like him. that's the nature of sports.

He is a badass though.

agreed

lol- that was sneaky! too bad for you my post is right above yours and not on the previous page. then it might make your quote more believable!

Artest had the ball to go up into the stands at an away game. He has balls to do that. He is a badass. He might be a dumbfuck, but lack of balls is not, and has never been a problem for him.

The fan that threw the beer but shrunk in his chair when Artest came intot the stands is complete wus, imo.

As far as Aussies being tougher than Yanks? Don't really know, don't really care. Don't know any Aussies. I know there aren't many here cuz our hotties over here want someone with a brain and dick. Chicks tell me Aussies are lacking both. So Aussie men just go back down-under.

I don't know what is funnier:

The fact that you think Artest is a badass for going into the stands

OR

The fact that the reason he went into the stands is because someone threw a cup at him!

Your manlove for this fool is hilarious.

And speaking of fools:

Fool - You can say whatever you want but the fact remains no opposition player would be standing in the crowd after 2 minutes in Australia.

Didn't video evidence prove that the guy Artest went after in the stands wasn't even the guy that threw the cup at him? I also remember that, if that is correct, the guy who actually threw the cup was almost twice the size of the guy Artest went after.

Also, lets not forget Artest's dog (http://www.themightymjd.com/2007/02/12/a-letter-from-ron-artests-great-dane/).

Oh yeah, I forgot about the part where he neglected his dog. Fuck him.

I didn't. It's pretty close here. He's a complete and utter fuckhead for doing that. How can you do that to a helpless animal? He should be punched in the face numerous times for that.

no way. ^ that's pretty badass if you ask me.

HW, bringing the spice.

Edgy!

HW's on fire lately.

lol- does this mean i'm finally on the inside of the circle of trust in here....? am i in the cool kid's club yet?

LMAO

Ok, so hopefully we got out all the bullshit about what a pos Artest is, but getting back on topic, he is a badass perimeter defender. Prolly one of the better p defenders in the league, no?

He still makes the list for his on-court play. Unless, y'all think Tay is a badass.

lol- does this mean i'm finally on the inside of the circle of trust in here....? am i in the cool kid's club yet?

LMAO

With a statement like that, you just lost any ground you may have gained.

Ok, so hopefully we got out all the bullshit about what a pos Artest is, but getting back on topic, he is a badass perimeter defender. Prolly one of the better p defenders in the league, no?

He still makes the list for his on-court play. Unless, y'all think Tay is a badass.

I hated every minute I saw Bertuzzi wearing red, and it still pisses me off. I just watched ADAM Jones wear a star for a year in Dallas, and it still pisses me off.

The brawl is the least of my concerns with Artest, he is just a complete fucktard and needs to stay that way on other teams. Even moving past that... he has been a fuckup with pretty solid coaches, a season under Curry would produce some scary shit.

To recap:

Artest is a punk and a dickhead for ducking Ben Wallace and charging the stands.

...and...

If we are to take Pharaoh at his word, the average Australian sports fan is an overcompensating tool. Maybe all the heat down in the bottom hemisphere has baked their brains enough to think that stepping between two dickheads is a good idea but up here we're secure enough to step aside and laugh.

ps- If watching sheed be a chucker was maddening, close your eyes and and imagine Artest in a piston uniform jacking it up from beyond the arc. Now go clean up, you just vomited on yourself.

With a statement like that, you just lost any ground you may have gained.

Add to that...his trade Arnie Kander post.

To recap:

If we are to take Pharaoh at his word, the average Australian sports fan is an overcompensating tool. Maybe all the heat down in the bottom hemisphere has baked their brains enough to think that stepping between two dickheads is a good idea but up here we're secure enough to step aside and laugh.



I'm certain many Aussie males are "secure" enough to laugh off a guy standing on the field of play and talking shit to the fans.

I'm certain that many Aussie males are "secure" enough to laugh at players that go crazy because they are hit with a cup of water or whatever.

But if a player decides to leap into the crowd and starts swinging punches you can bet your left nut that people would step in and stop it.

It's not about being "secure" or "tough" - it's about doing the right thing! You don't allow anyone built like Ron Artest to swing wild punches at a guy half his size.

If Ron Ron was facing someone his own size and then knocked that dude out and walked away many Aussies probably wouldn't have a problem with it. If he knocked that guy out and then turned to another fan and started swinging, well...

Crazy ass fuckers need to be taken down and I know Aussie crowds would do the job. Just cause you yanks didn't doesn't mean the rest of the world is crazy.

Add to that...his trade Arnie Kander post.

that was my point though- what would it take to trade kander? i'm not sure anything less than lebron and a bajillion dollars would get the deal done. even then, you could actually spend all that money before kander is finished his reign of domination in the nba as the greatest trainer who ever lived. so even that deal probably isn't enough to sway me.

arnie is a god.

I have no fuckin idea. They give draft picks for coaches in the NFL, so who knows whats next.