I suppose we need one.

I'll start with a complaint...WHY THE EFF does this start at 1pm?

We've had to watch these talking heads for months now...so they start it at 1pm so we can listen to them over our morning coffee for 4 hours?

BASTARDS!

I hope the Rams shake this thing up and draft Sanchez. Highly unlikey, but possible. I think that could change the things enough where some WRs get in the mix ahead of us and then some LT might, MIGHT fall to us at 20.

I'll start with a complaint...WHY THE EFF does this start at 1pm?

What are you talking about? Everything I've seen says 4pm. 1pm would be a HUGE upgrade.

PST

I hope the Rams shake this thing up and draft Sanchez. Highly unlikey, but possible. I think that could change the things enough where some WRs get in the mix ahead of us and then some LT might, MIGHT fall to us at 20.

I think that if they took Sanchez, it would probably lead to some crazy trade offers. Don't get me wrong, I think they need a QB pretty badly, but all signs point to them replacing Pace with Smith.

(Smith is going to be a Pro-Bowler for 10 years and Lions fans will always lament not drafting him)

PST
PST is for homos

I think that if they took Sanchez, it would probably lead to some crazy trade offers. Don't get me wrong, I think they need a QB pretty badly, but all signs point to them replacing Pace with Smith.

(Smith is going to be a Pro-Bowler for 10 years and Lions fans will always lament not drafting him)

It does lead to some crazy trade scenarios and thats what I meant.

There are 3, 4, maybe 5 teams that like Sanchez. Rams could prolly get a player (starter) back from a team and a pick.

PST is for homos

I'd start hackin on Saginaw right now if I could, but I just can't go there.

Homos like Schwarzeneger and Colin Cowherd, of course. No offense intended.

I LOL at Stafford's interview. "I get a chance to play for a great organization." Has he watched the Lions in his lifetime.

Homos like Schwarzeneger and Colin Cowherd, of course. No offense intended.

No worries. My post was meant to be funny. My humor doesn't come through well.

We don't laugh in Saginaw. We only shoot people.

Are we the only ones here? Anyone a little suprised that A. Smith went before Monroe?

9 out of 10 Saginites recomend moving to Bay City.

Cinci isn't worried about his character issues. I think he might be fine too. But he is better than J Smith in a lot of areas.

I do feel I was proven right by all the tackles being drafted. I've been saying OT is where good teams build from. Early on, peeps jumped all over me for it. They were all wrong and have learned nothing.

The biggest surprise (kind of a surprise) is Al Davis is still running the draft in Oakland. DHB could have been drafted much later.

Raiders fans are used to this kind of thing though.

I'm in & out, got about 15 people over. Anyhow... WTF, Al Davis. That had me lol'ing.

I'm thinking the Browns take Maualuga at 17 if the Broncos don't at 12. :(

Can you imagine how much fun it will be to listen to Greenie on Mike & Mike Monday morning when they talk about Sanchez to the J-E-T-S? Should be a fun 4 hours of Greenie slurping on Sanchez............LOL.

Broncos with Moreno at 12? He was slipping I thought, and might have been there at 18.

Washington should be thrilled that Orakpo was there at 13.

Al Davis is a joke.

LOL a Denver drafting offense.

Oher still on the board...but prolly not for long.

Well, Jenkins is gone. 5 picks to go.

Scouts, Inc doesn't have Maualuga in their top 10 players remaining. They have the two USC OLB's, but no Rey. Any chance we get to 33 and have the choice between Rey and Laurinitis?

Teams are about to make a run on the USC LBs too.

I'm not a big Rey guy. I'd take J Lauranitus over Rey.

Have I mentioned that 10 minutes between picks is a huge improvement?

Absolutely it is. Thats why they were able to start so late. I didn't know how they'd finsish 2 rounds today starting at 1pm. Round 2 used to be 10 mins and prolly will still be 10.

I'm in & out, got about 15 people over. Anyhow... WTF, Al Davis. That had me lol'ing.

I'm thinking the Browns take Maualuga at 17 if the Broncos don't at 12. :(

Thanks for the invite you fugnut

Absolutely it is. Thats why they were able to start so late. I didn't know how they'd finsish 2 rounds today starting at 1pm. Round 2 used to be 10 mins and prolly will still be 10.

I think round 2 is only 7 minutes.

A bit of a reach on Larry English?

Some evaluators really, really like him. Outside 4-3 guy and fast.

Small school so gets no love.

I bet its Freeman

Why else would they move up?

And only a 6th to move up. I bet Denver is pissed.

They have Freeman on the camera now, so it must be ...and it is him.

A 6th? They should be arrested for theft.

Denver is a joke.

And now only one pick until Detroit goes, and Oher, Maualuga, several other good choices are there.

Holy crap, is Cleveland going to trade there way out of this draft altogether? They might own every pick in next year's draft before they're done.

Philly is better than Cleveland if we want Oher. Philly just traded for Peters or something. They aren't after Oher, afaict.

Good, they took Maclin.

Denver is a joke.

And now only one pick until Detroit goes, and Oher, Maualuga, several other good choices are there.

I'd go with Rey Maualuga. Dude can cover a lot of ground, and he's a leader.

Wow, now we have some choices. Oher, Rey, etc. I'd take Oher here and grab JL at 33.

I wonder if the front office actually wishes someone would have taken either Rey or Oher so they didn't have to make the choice.

Both are needs, but MLB is likely available at 33. But what are the best case scenarios for Rey and Oher over the next 5 years?

Pettigrew...holy shit that surprises me. But he can block.

I like the pick.

Ok, what the hell was that?

Schwartz said they were drafting talent. This guy is talented.

Pettigrew...holy shit that surprises me. But he can block.

He better. Can he tackle too?

Pettigrew is top 10 talent in this years draft. We need help there. I'm starting to like this pick a lot. I didnt' think of it at all.

Can we add "Will Cleveland make a pick in the 1st round" to the WTF Sportsbook?

Hey Zekyl... your team sucks!!!

Or, they're loading up on trade talent.

......*


Nahhh. They suck.

The Browns traded down.......AGAIN haha. I'm betting they end up with Donald Brown in the end.

i would have grabbed oher but the "experts" like it. if its value, and the guy can block as well as be a threat catching then its a very interesting pick. i personally love productive tight ends, guys like gonzo and whats his face in san diego just can have so much impact on the game. if this guy fits the bill, cool.

Mack is a good pick. In that division with the Steelers and my RAVENS, they better be able to block.

They were just showing him owning Orakpo. He's got hands, can run and own Orakpo? Fuck'n A.

I'm chuggin the kool-aid.

So 12 more picks until they're up again.

Oher, Rey, Laurie, V. Davis, Sean Smith, Britton and Beatty all still available.

If they all go, that means Wells, E. Brown, Matthews or Jerry is likely there. I would take any of them - even Wells. Either he plays and gives a nice 1-2 punch or he's highly tradeable.

They said they are going to draft talent, they drafted talent. I expect the highest rated player on their board will be the pick with need being secondary.

They are doing the easy, smart thing. We suck. We are talentless at a lot of positions, so they have lots of options when you approach the draft like this. I have no complaints.

From nfldraftdog.com

Pettigrew was arrested last January for assault and battery of a police officer outside of a party....Besides the character issues, Pettigrew does need some work with pro coaches on the finer points of his game. He still uses his size as his most effective weapon to create space, which is not a bad thing, but he will need to learn some new tricks at the next level. He does not possess killer straight line speed or incredible athleticism. Some have said he can add weight to his already chiseled frame, but I believe he is at his max weight wise and anymore weight would affect his already suspect speed.

They said they are going to draft talent, they drafted talent. I expect the highest rated player on their board will be the pick with need being secondary.

They are doing the easy, smart thing. We suck. We are talentless at a lot of positions, so they have lots of options when you approach the draft like this. I have no complaints.

I'm ok with that, in most cases, but that's what brought us Mike Williams.

And their goes Oher to the Ravens who traded up for him.

Hmmm, building a championship team? Protecting Flacco?

OHER!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

what i like about the pettigrew pick is that theyre investing in stafford with this pick. we have too much $$$ invested in stafford for him to fail. we need defense, but since we drafted stafford we had to give him as much help as we can. if we draft o-line at 33, i wont be pissed either. when you suck as bad as the lions, drafting based on need is absurd.

From nfldraftdog.com
Pettigrew was arrested last January for assault and battery of a police officer outside of a party....Besides the character issues, Pettigrew does need some work with pro coaches on the finer points of his game. He still uses his size as his most effective weapon to create space, which is not a bad thing, but he will need to learn some new tricks at the next level. He does not possess killer straight line speed or incredible athleticism. Some have said he can add weight to his already chiseled frame, but I believe he is at his max weight wise and anymore weight would affect his already suspect speed.



Does Witten have GOOD speed? Hell no. Witten speed isn't suspect, we know it sucks. But he is still a player. You don't need to be a blazer at TE.

I'd rather have a guy like Pett that can block than a fast TE that can't block for shit.

Hakeem Nicks is a great pick of the Giants.

Nicks is a big dude - he looks like he lacks some speed. I know some people were saying he could possibly be a bust - anybody know why?

Rey is still available - if Tennessee doesn't take him here, I think he makes it to the Lions. I would be extremely happy with that.

Tested positive for smoking the good stuff. No cigs for Nicks.

I never liked Rey early. I'd take J Laurinaitus over Rey.

You ok with Lauranaitus, Mo?

Cardinals possibly take Beanie Wells? Personally, I'd take Unger and then land Andre Brown or LeSean McCoy in the 2nd round.

^ That'd be a good choice for them...Wells.

I never liked Rey early. I'd take J Laurinaitus over Rey.

You ok with Lauranaitus, Mo?
Yes. I think Lauranaitus is smarter, Rey is crazier and more athletically gifted. I'm okay with either.

If Pitt doesn't draft a LB, then we'll have our choice of either.

I can't see PIT drafting a LB with the group they have. But I'm rarely right.

We could go with a CB here Mo.

Ziggy went right about where most thought he would.

Lions will prolly take one of these guys, but the Pettigrew picked surprised me.

CB Butler
LB Lauranaitus
LB Rey

True - but would you really want Paris Lenon being our MLB again next year? They upgraded the CB position already.

I thought there was a couple of big slow MLBs later...if we go CB.

I'm hoping for JL here.

Delmas.

Huge hitter. He'll be a good run stopper.

I'm okay with that - I still would have liked a MLB?

first word out of boomer's mouth is bob sanders. if thats the case, great pick. im shocked they didnt take one of those LB's though. im glad the patriots didnt either, that would have made me feel bad.

I can't say that I 'dis-like' Delmas, but why not pick Rey or James here? Do we have that much faith in Dizon or Paris Lenon and we just don't know about it? Drafting is tough when you have THIS MANY NEEDS..........ugh!

It concerns me that NE was ready with that pick so quick.

Belli tooka a safety too, but must have had Chung rated higher than Delmas.

There goes Lauranaitis. Could have been a Lion.

I really liked Robiskie. I know we couldn't afford to take him, but he is going to be a player.

I would have taken JL over Delmas, but can't say I know enough about them to get up in arms about it.

Its hard to complain about a hitter like Delmas.

Oh my christ... I am damn near crying at our picks. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Before the draft, I wanted neither Pettigrew or Delmas at anything but the 3rd round... I hope I'm wrong.

At least the Lions didn't draft Hoyer in the second round this year... yet.

Any possibility the Lions trade up to take Rey if he keeps dropping?

Any possibility the Lions trade up to take Rey if he keeps dropping?I would be ecstatic. Rey is an amazing value at this point, unless he has an injury we don't know about or something. I'm shocked he's still on the board right now.

Not anymore.

:(

:emo kid:

Oh shit, there goes White to a Wildcat team.

No picks til day 2, but we have 2. I wouldn't be surprised we dealt the 1st pick tomorrow. Teams evaluate the draft tonight, see who is left, look at other teams needs ahead of them, etc, and want to move up.

We'll see.

I'm still waiting to see where Conner Barwin goes. I thought he'd be good for us, but we drafted a TE.

Conner Barwin's gone. I hope I'm wrong, but I imagine I'll be back here at the same spot calling the picks we shouldn't make. :[

You liked Mack or Unger, didn't you?

Well, I'm upset they passed on both Rey and Laur, but they just might get either Beatty (OT, UConn) or Sean Smith still with the 1st pick tomorrow.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/rivals/full.35852/18ed5242ca89f3a044a32f0289fbd223/andy-levitre.jpg

Anybody want to guess who the first UM (or MSU) player drafted is and where he goes?

Anybody want to guess who the first UM (or MSU) player drafted is and where he goes?

I'm gonna say Javon Ringer at 3.19 or Terrance Taylor at 3.25

Well, I'm upset they passed on both Rey and Laur, but they just might get either Beatty (OT, UConn) or Sean Smith still with the 1st pick tomorrow.
Or not, they went at 28 and 29 in the 2nd.

Ok, I've been wrong with everything else, might as well speculate about the top pick tomorrow now that I know who's off the board.

My top choices:
OT - Jamon Meredith
DE - Michael Johnson
CB - DJ Moore
DT - Jarron Gilbert
OG - Duke Robinson

So its obvious the Raiders are on drugs again. Sorry, but drafting the #73 ranked safety in the 2nd round? Thats even worse than taking DHB at 7.

Al is old.

So its obvious the Raiders are on drugs again. Sorry, but drafting the #73 ranked safety in the 2nd round? Thats even worse than taking DHB at 7.
Either his value rose higher than the label bro or the Bears are on crack too.

New Raiders safety Mike Mitchell wasn't considered good enough to go to the NFL combine, but by Saturday's draft, he was good enough to get drafted in the second round.

And, if the Raiders didn't get him at No. 47, the Bears were ready to pounce at No. 49, according to the Ohio University hitter. Mitchell was sure he was headed there when the Raiders traded down from No. 40 in the second round.

"I thought I was going to Chicago," Mitchell said. "Because they had told me to stay close to my phone. When they did that, I was like OK, 'I'm going to be a Chicago Bear.' That's what I was thinking. Oakland was able to get to 47. They traded back and it takes a couple of minutes to tell you where they will be. When I saw it was 47, I thought there was still a chance there. It's so amazing how this has happened and worked out. I'm just pumped."

Not saying it's a good pick for my taste though, Just saying that it's not as wild as I can see it's already been advertised.

The Heyyward Bey was a severe reach to me though(picking a late first rounder at #7) mainly because we have to pay him that money. I actually liked the idea of grabbing him in the early second or trading down to nab him lower.

If we go LB, just a swag, but Brinkley or Beckwith if we don't trade.

BTW...WTF is this 7am crap? Today is 1 tomorrow its 7.

We traded our 65th, wonder what we picked up.

We got a 3, 4, and 7. Not too shabby.

wisco lb deandre levy. reach?

Yes. I really hope I'm proven wrong, but so far I hate this draft. Big time. I try to buy into the hype on getting Pettigrew and Delmas, but I'm just not going for it this time.

call me crazy but id take ringer here.

HEY! A WR great!!!






Hopefully he gives us great field position on KR/PR so Hanson can put some points up.

I'm so incredibly jealous of the Bengals right now. They got Andre Smith, Maualuga, and Michael Johnson, and they were picking after the Lions in every instance.

Ok, so their draft relies a great deal on wwhether those guys really have a work ethic or not, but they out-talent the crap out of the Lions draft, IMO, and fit the Lions needs to a tee.

i dont know if it matters, but we caught the huge run on WR's. seems to me that thats some good gm'ing, picking the first of a run of 6.

No picks til day 2, but we have 2. I wouldn't be surprised we dealt the 1st pick tomorrow. Teams evaluate the draft tonight, see who is left, look at other teams needs ahead of them, etc, and want to move up.

We'll see.

I don't like the Williams pick.

I'm so incredibly jealous of the Bengals right now. They got Andre Smith, Maualuga, and Michael Johnson, and they were picking after the Lions in every instance.

Ok, so their draft relies a great deal on wwhether those guys really have a work ethic or not, but they out-talent the crap out of the Lions draft, IMO, and fit the Lions needs to a tee.
All three of those guys could end up in jail too with the characters around them in that lockerroom.

Still don't know why we passed on Rey though. Schwartz said they didn't think Rey or James L were complete players. I guess I'd rather them get a complete safety over a MLB with holes. I guess we'll find out if those two MLB's pan out. If they don't, I guess he was pretty smart.

Please tell me Duke Robinson drops to the 15th pick in the 4th round.

I haven't been able to watch any of the draft yet and it sucks! I'm going to need an update on some of these guys. Please tell me that this WR is a return man, because there were some guys we really could have used right there.

And what the hell is going on with taking an OLB and no ILB?!

I'm hoping for a MLB and a DT here at some frickin point in this draft.

Levy is fast side to side and can hit. He can cover, so...

I'm thinking they have a MLB slotted in the 4th or 5th or something. They must have their eye on someone.

Freakin NE Pats do it again.

2nd rated Safety in Chung

DT Brace

Darius Butler

And they didn't even have many picks. They work the draft. MoTown would prolly rather have their draft than ours and we had 3 frickin picks before they even had 1 flippin pick.

Please draft Defense here.

SAmmie Lee Hill DT

FINALLY!

6'4" 340 pounds of DEFENSIVE TACKLE

Alright, the fist pick I actually had a positive reaction to.

2nd day draft coverage sucks when your team sucks. The announcers just go to covering the Cutler trade, and their favorite teams instead of sticking to covering picks.

^^Seconded. The 2nd day sucks as far as coverage goes.

My favs so far...

Sammie Lee
Pettigrew
Delmas and Staff tied
I really don't like the WR from Penn pick at all.

Quite a few solid players still on the board. Here are my sleepers...

Jeremiah Johnson RB Oregon
Josh Mauga MLB Nevada
Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon State
Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State
Curtis Painter QB Purdue
Coye Francies CB San Jose State

Jasper Brinkley or Scott McKillop, if they're still on the board, could be solid picks.

Brinkley would be my choice but we have a ways to go before we pick again.

Hill was released by the Seahawks. But I can't remember if played inside. They released him cuz they drafted Curry. Hill wanted a longterm deal.

Vikings grabbed Brinkley. Damn. Bad enough he's gone, but gone to a division rival.

BTW Mo, I'm not sure if there are any good MLBs at the top of the 6th. I don't want them to take a MLB just to take one if there is a better player on the board.

But next year, we have to address LT and Defense, defense, defense in FA, trades and the draft.

Frantz Joseph is a possibility.

I don't like players named Frantz and I don't like players that have 2 first names as their names.

No frickin way to Frantz.

BTW Mo, I'm not sure if there are any good MLBs at the top of the 6th. I don't want them to take a MLB just to take one if there is a better player on the board.

But next year, we have to address LT and Defense, defense, defense in FA, trades and the draft.

Yes next year we should address nothing but defense... but by that time the Lions will be 0-33. So I guess we have next year's draft to look forward to.

6-10 is my guess right now. It won't go down from there, but possibly up.

The only way they win 6 games is if Schwartz is an absolute genious, and judging by his drafting so far, I wouldn't go there.

I'm sorry for my negative outlook, Tahoe. I just can't begin to comprehend some of the picks they've taken so far...

Don't appologize to me, homie. You have history on your side. I have kool-aid on mine.

Believe it or not, I don't think we were that bad last year(meaining 0-16). There were years that we were a much worse team. Our D just sucked the big one, but I think we could have easily won 3 last year and I think we can eak out 3 more some how after this offseason.

Could this change your mind, Tahoe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNstliEo4Hs

Holy shit...It only changes my mind about 180 degrees

He doesn't look like a Frantz Joseph. He plays like Delmas. I like that mean streak.

We're on the clock, btw

Ringer gone to the Titans

We traded the 1st in the 6th to the Broncos?

So what did the Lions get out of that trade???

I'm trying to find that out

Denver must have given us a player

The Broncos already traded their 6th to the Ravens, so it looks like we got their seventh this year plus some pick next year (4th or 5th maybe?) or a player.

7th and a 5th next year

We're picking again in 15 picks

That is decent value for the 6th, I guess. It should be a late 5th and the 16th in the 7th...not bad.

Beckwith still on the board...he's decent ILB

Um...why is Brian Hoyer being talked about so much? Seriously, what the fuck did Hoyer do to have people even mention his name, let alone draft him.

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!

He's getting a FUCKING INTERVIEW!!!

We are on da friggin clockasaurus

RB Aaron Brown TCU

A running back?

I guess if he's the best player available. Hope he's a thumper because otherwise he's probably not seeing the field much.

They must either feel we have a MLB, or they have a trade in the works for a MLB.

I realize there may not be much of a MLB available here, but SOMETHING is better than nothing.

Who was that linebacker the Seahawks franchised? Was he a MLB? They just removed the tag on him.

He's a pass rushing OLB.

You know you're badass when you draft a long snapper.......fucking Patriots.

^lol, no shit.

From the looks of things, a lot of quality guys are gonna be undrafted free agents.

I'm hoping there are some bad character guys, MLB types, that the Lions would like to bring in but don't want to draft for some reason.

Darry Beckwith, Dannell Ellerbe, and Josh Mauga are all there. Ellerbe might project better to playing Sam tho.

Ellerbe's had some legal trouble, Tahoe. Is that the type you're referring to?

Any thoughts on taking a tackle late or as a UFA and converting him to guard? Maybe someone that's a mauler but the big knock is he gets beat off the edge too much?

You could grab a guy like that, play him at guard and see if he develops as a tackle at all.

Just a thought since we still seem to have a big hole on our o-line. Cadogen played guard earlier in his career while they still had Levi Brown.

Augustus Parrish is described as a "tweener" that struggles with speed rushers and isn't athletic enough for tackle.

Cornelius Lewis, another "tweener" it seems. ESPN lists him as a tackle, NFLDraftCountdown as a guard. Character issues. NFLDC calls him a top sleeper.

I don't know Zek. I only look at the draft 3 rounds deep. I have no idea who might or might not be around.

I just don't understand them NOT taking a MLB. So I just thought maybe there was a player or 2 that we'd ask to camp.

I'm hoping the same thing about guard. Maybe there's a MLB in a trade or a FA that wasn't signed because teams wanted to wait on the draft or something. We need someone though.

Maybe we just want to play Nickel all season

Still 3 more picks for the Lions, so there's definitely hope for taking a MLB.

On the clock 228

Lions up again....will they take a MLB?

T Lydon Murtha Neb

At this point, this is a great value pick.

6'7" 306 and thats all I know about him.

Agree K, at this point you hope its someone that you can coach up.



02/08/2009 - PRO POTENTIAL: OL Lydon Murtha -- Scouts will take one look at Murtha's 6-foot-7, 315-pound frame and begin drooling. He played both tackle spots throughout his college career but battled leg and arm injuries his senior season, which caused him to miss four games. Another middle-round or late-round selection.

He had great workouts. Was near the top in a lot of the events at the combine.

IMO, Murtha might actually develop into a starter.

I was just reading that he was injured a lot, lil slow to recover, but has lots of positives too.

Our 1st offensive lineman in the draft.

Weird cuz most of wanted MLB or a LT and we finally get a OLineman with the 2nd to the last pick.

2 more picks....my guesses are guard and MLB.

We're up in 2 picks, 235, what other pick do we have?

LB Zack Follet CAL

Ask any Pac-10 Conference quarterback to name the hardest hitting tackler in the league and they will sound like a choir in singing praises for Follett. A versatile defender, he began his Cal career as a middle linebacker, shifting to weak-side outside linebacker as a sophomore before finding a home on the strong side his junior campaign.

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YEAH PAC!!!!!

does Schwartz just like undersized OLB's?

does Schwartz just like undersized OLB's?

Read what I just copy and pasted about his hitting. I goofed before I edited it. I pasted the Murtha stuff again.

Levy = speed/athlete.
Follett = hitter.

I have no problem with either of these.

Watching the highlights he looks pretty damn good for this late of a pick. I bet if he had another 15 pounds on him he'd be a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Looks like a sure tackler with great instincts at least.

Watching the highlights he looks pretty damn good for this late of a pick. I bet if he had another 15 pounds on him he'd be a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Looks like a sure tackler with great instincts at least.

HE ATE A QB'S SHOE AT 4:53 on that clip. LMFAO!

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He's been a hitter since Pop Warner dude. LMAO!

4:53 lol

Ok, they played it 3 times, but that hit taking the Ducks wr head off was pretty good too.

Has a wood-cutting hobby in which he has shaped plywood into life size replicas of teammates....and with that, he's my favorite draft pick so far.

One of the more colorful characters on the squad, Follett spent much of 2007 with a hair dye job featuring tiger/lion stripes (artwork courtesy of Greg Van Hoesen), earning himself the nickname "Ziger" for the "Z" dyed into the back of his head amongst the stripes. Even though the hair went back to normal for the final five games, the "Ziger" mentality remained. He is also an accomplished artist, as he has a wood-cutting hobby in which he has shaped plywood into life size replicas of teammates.

He is also an accomplished artist, as he has a wood-cutting hobby in which he has shaped plywood into life size replicas of teammates.
That was already posted Clevelander! ;)

Ask the NFL draft prospects at the Indianapolis Scouting Combine who their role models are, and you're usually going to hear names like Peyton Manning (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/PeytonManning/), Ray Lewis (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/RayLewis/) or LaDainian Tomlinson (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/LaDainianTomlinson/). But Zack Follett (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/ZackFollett/), a linebacker from Cal, had a more creative answer to that question at the combine this weekend.

Doug Farrar of Football Outsiders was on the scene in Indianapolis and quotes Follett saying this (http://footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2009/saturday-combine-report):
"Growing up, Terry Tate, No. 56, the Office Linebacker, he was my hero watching those commercials. I tried to emulate him when I was out there. ... Junior year of high school, I went to Champs Sports and they sold a Reebok Terry Tate number 56 jersey, and I bought one immediately. We watched all his YouTube clips and he's bringing the 'Pain Train' and doing the 'whoop-whoop' sound and I used to do it in high school, and I used to blow the horn. It kind of stuck with me a little bit."

I saw that after I did that...Fuckin Clevelanders.

Anyway, that 1st part cracked me up too. Hair dye with Lion's stripes.

My buddy that went to Cal just called me, he had to go and is going to call me back, but he said we got ourselves a player. He said he thought he'd go in the 3rd and in the Cal circles, is better then the USC LBs.

fwiw

2 more picks....my guesses are guard and MLB.

You were right, K. Forgot about 255. Comp pick or something.

ondaklok

needabeer

lol@msu. ringer went 6 picks before morgan trent. and "the sleeper of the draft" brian hoyer is still sleeping. who the fuck thought that guy was a prospet?

Dan Gronkowski TE MD

TE Dan Gronkowski MD

damn, owned

Seriously, wtf, we have about 5 TEs, and drafted the starter...and they couldn't find a frickin prospect MLB?

Sign Frantz Joseph and Michael Ray Garvin. They could be something. Garvin as a KR/PR, Frantz as possible MLB/special teamer.

DrRay, are inside LBs a lil smaller in the 3-4?

Freakin NE Pats do it again.

2nd rated Safety in Chung

DT Brace

Darius Butler

And they didn't even have many picks. They work the draft. MoTown would prolly rather have their draft than ours and we had 3 frickin picks before they even had 1 flippin pick.

Bingo.

That's how you run an organization - with people smarter than us. It's sad that 99% of the people on this board are smarter than those who run the Lions.

Can you believe that shit though, Mo. Those first 3 picks were after our 1st 3.

3-4 ILB's can be smaller, but it's not necessarily preferred. It's more dependent on the skillset; regardless, in a 4-3, you want a MLB who can fill the holes and not be pushed around.

So this is how we "rebuild the trenches"....I swear any day now Mayhew is going to pull off his face and Millen will be underneath laughing

Hey, we took an OT with our 2nd to the last pick in the 7th. :)

I wouldn't be surprised if we went into the season with 3 TEs, including the two we just drafted. One is obviously going to be our starter, and the other is supposed to be a guy that will be a solid #2 right out of the gate that has the potential to develop into a starting TE. THe 3rd guy would probably be someone like Fitzsimmons who's a special teamer.

I wouldn't be surprised if we went into the season with 3 TEs, including the two we just drafted. One is obviously going to be our starter, and the other is supposed to be a guy that will be a solid #2 right out of the gate that has the potential to develop into a starting TE. THe 3rd guy would probably be someone like Fitzsimmons who's a special teamer.

I don't see that at all. That was a fucking stupid pick, imo.

Also, what about Heller? You know the HUGE FA TE that we signed? Remember him? Can't catch a cold, but can knock 3 brick shithouses off their foundation with a swipe of his hand.

I know Schwartzy has no problem with 2 TE sets for short yardage situations, but god damn, how many fricking TEs do we need?

edit...I meant to say "That was a stupid fucking pick, imo" Not "That was a fucking stupid pick, imo"

ikindalikacok

i don't know why i did that

I'm in a good mood right now, so I'm not going to respond right now, but there will be a day, and that day will be here soon, when I'm in a bad mood and you shall pay with a verbal assault the likes of which have not been seen before.

I expect Gaines to be cut, but I can't predict shit with this "organization" right now...

I know it's hard to get excited about a 7th rounder but... THUMPER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3dRpZVOVpo&feature=related

^ did you read at about 185 on?

that music to the vid you posted goes good with KDawgs sig

Follet will definately decleat a bitch

Yeah I read those but didn't see that clip posted, so I thought I'd share.

You know, I'm kind of had a couple right now, but these are the type of players we need. They have to be willing to hurt a bitch. Take it right up to the line, but don't cross it.

I kind of remember in 77, the Bears started to get good again. One of their D backs came up and fuckin knocked out a Lion with a hit on the Bears sidelines. I saw the Bears coaches running over to the hit thinking they were going to help the Lion on their sideline that was laying there. They ran over there alright, to high five the DB that just put the hit on the guy.

That was the start of the Bears D that is one of the best in history. Football is not for pussies.

Yeah I read those but didn't see that clip posted, so I thought I'd share.

Coo, I'm glad you did post it. I just didn't know if you had seen those.

How do the Steelers draft? BPA. Aside from Levy & Williams, I feel we did some of that. Time will tell if it works, and I def. won't be getting my hopes up. Next draft we could get a top OT in the first and a very talented UT in the second. If this year's picks work out, then we'd be well on our way.

^ did you read at about 185 on?

that music to the vid you posted goes good with KDawgs sig

+1

I forgot about Heller. Pettigrew #1, Heller #2, this guy will be special teams/developmental and Fitz will be gone.

So Follett is the linebacker from The Replacements. That's my comparison.

The more highlights I see, the more I'm loving that pick. They got a guy in the second round that just likes to rock people, let him loose on special teams until he's ready for some serious LB playing time. Hopefully the new coaching staff can develop him into a solid playmaker on D.

He looks like a playmaker with instincts. Does he have the size to play MLB full time though?

He's about Vilma's size. I would say putting on 5 pounds without losing quickness wouldn't be too much of a problem.

Lions brass should tell him to hit the weight room extensively before camp. Like they keep saying, Ray Lewis was only 228 coming out of college. Beef this guy up and let him hit some people, then we'll see what we have. I'm holding off judgement until then.

^ you prolly don't get that info in the Cleveland papers but they have all the players buling up. I don't know why they wouldn't want the draftees to do the same thing.

I mean even more-so. Tell him that the key to him getting a shot at starting is for him to add as much muscle as possible. I know everyone's supposed to bulk up but for some guys, they need to make it almost a mandate.

Make him like that 'roid guy that is going to be on E:60 this week.