do this

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to this

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The birds are extra and my architect forgot the shutters on the window.

Good luck sir. I'm not quite sure how you plan on blue-ing the sky right about the roof, but I have faith in you.

Maybe you should hire Ledezma and Zekyl to be your apprentices.

Wow, Gl'Enn, I hadn't noticed your sig before. Well played.

That's gonna be one badass RV.

Are you going to live there or sell it? Or is it a job for someone?

I've put on some additions before but never made my own house. Might like to one day in my retirement.

just make sure you hide the trusses in that window over the garage...pet peeve of mine

Are you going to live there or sell it? Or is it a job for someone?

I've put on some additions before but never made my own house. Might like to one day in my retirement.

This one will most likely be mine. It is possible to get an offer during the building process that you can't refuse, but I doubt it in this market.

I got about half of another project (about 200k) so these 2 will most likely be going up simultaneously.

My degree is in computer science. I did good in that field, but there is nothing like building, imo, so switched. I wish I knew that when I was a youngster.

just make sure you hide the trusses in that window over the garage...pet peeve of mine

Done...and I agree. The last one I put in was actually a plexi of some sort with a black backing. My buddy bought it. I don't remember what it was called for sure. It had NO air flow though.

I went through a redraw on this. It was a typical California/Mediterranean. It had arched transoms, 10' plate, stucco, etc.

I wanted it to be a lil more of a ranch style and something that fit that area of Heritage Oak trees. The CA/Meds will be dated in another 5 years, if not already. The house I'm building should be timeless in that area. You can go back 35 years and see houses something like this house. They are still desirable, so I thought I'd make a break from the old and go to the older.

The tree on the left is a fire hazard. Also, extending branches might harm your roof tiles if the wind is strong.

Also there's a lot of squiggly black lines all over the place. Are those fleas? I'm only saying this due to the horse trailer in the photo.

If so:

a) that illustrator is really fucking anal retentive about detail.
b) Call Orkin at 1(866)949-1753

At this point, the city barely lets me walk underneath those trees. It cost me a bundle for approvals just to build close to them.

Horse trailer? How dare you call my Construction trailer a horse trailer.

I've got a willow tree that has two main trunks. One of the trunks broke in half and fell through the ceiling of my daughter's room (have I mentioned that here already?). I keep finding semi-large limbs that have fallen due to snow/ice buildup. Trees suck.

Willow's are cool looking though

You can't avoid trees when building in Tahoe. There so frickin tall and the wind blows like crazy up there sometimes.

These limbs are so huge, they would fall straight down. And I'm not (and it takes an act of congress to) encroaching on their root systems. So I'm pretty much out of harms way on this one. Whether it looks like or not.

These oaks don't uproot as much as the limbs break and they come straight down.

My degree is in computer science. I did good in that field, but there is nothing like building, imo, so switched. I wish I knew that when I was a youngster.

There is a real difference between completing a real physical structure that has size and/or effect on it's surroundings and making making computer files (that's what I do now). It's nice to feel your muscles strain as well as your mind be challenged.

Yep. I handled Contact Mgmt software for a company that had reps all over the world. They'd sync up to the db here for leads, updates, etc. I dealt with about 400k records, but only about 25 sales reps. I did most of the work on the back end, the database itself. The company I left bought Oracle just as I was leaving. Fuckers! I lobbied hard for that and they bought it on my way out the door.

Yep. I handled Contact Mgmt software for a company that had reps all over the world. They'd sync up to the db here for leads, updates, etc. I dealt with about 400k records, but only about 25 sales reps. I did most of the work on the back end, the database itself. The company I left bought Oracle just as I was leaving. Fuckers! I lobbied hard for that and they bought it on my way out the door.


Ooo. I need a yob. Can you contact the management using your sofware to get be through the door you went out of? I have six degrees so that will help right?

Construction trailer...

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Horsie trailer...

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Your trailer...

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That's a fucking Toy Hauler, not a construction trailer.

Whatcha gonna build your house with -- two ATV's and a dirt bike?

You need to go back to Trailer School

The trailer Denny cites doesn't usually hold tools does it? Isn't it used as a temporary on-site office for the manager?

The trailer Denny cites doesn't usually hold tools does it?

Mah cunstrushion traylur.

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I've exspaded mah biznuss.

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Iz gots mah ad redy.

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I think I finally frickin get a shovel in the fricken ground by the end of the week.

I'm going to...

LEARN HOW TO MAKE A WEBSITE

I can only hope that the thread will be that good. As far as the end product, mine has to be quality.

It's amazing what I had to go through this time around for a lil construction cash. But I hope I'll get the ok by the end of the week and all y'all won't have to suffer with me and my shitty posts all day every day.

Finally - Shovel in ground! May 18th

Congrats. Remember WTF's cut.

thx foo

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Kind of like that other guy, today is a day of rest. j/k

Day 2

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How big is your crew?

3 and me

Thats 1 day, but we busted butt today at the end. It took a long time to get the box square and how i wanted it, so after that we busted ass to make it look like we did something. And we did do something today.

In the shadow at the top on the left stretching to the middle, that's just the form then, not concrete.

Correct. It drops off underneath the oak. Its just the outside form board. We'll be done by mid-day tomorrow, the plumber will show up 10ish. He can work out by the street tying in the sewer and water if we're not ready for him inside yet.

It basically goes...

Outside form board
ground plumbing
ground electrical
grade inside, rebar in footings
INSPECTION
pour footings
rock
pour slab

If you pour these things monolithic, you lose way too much concrete (money) on the sluf from the rock to the footings. It's an extra day, but you still save. Little slabs you can pour in 1 shot.

What kind of rock?

Do you ever build basements?

What is your total cost estimate for the project?

3/4 crushed

Not out here.

My wife and I are the only peeps who know, but depending on permits, you'd be looking at 95-135 per sq ft costs, without profit and O/H.

Thats with some stepped down quality from a couple million dollar house. Still Stainless appliances, granite counter tops, tile showers, wood floors though.

Where do you get the capital?

Believe it or not, I secured a construction loan on this one. I've got a fairly good track record. I've build big houses out of pocket, but went with a pain-in-the-ass construction loan on this one.

I expect to live in this one for a while, but its a location across from a park and in and older established neighborhood, so its possible someone could make me an offer for it, but I doubt it. comma crazy

What % of cost is labor/contractors.

I need to put WTF on one of these signs

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What % of cost is labor/contractors.

Do you mean vs materials?

Cuz like the drywall bid obviosly has drywall and labor to hang it. I should say that out here almost NO builder does everything. I won't touch drywall or insulation.

I get a number for drywall, hang, tape, top, finish. Same for insulation. I want nothing to do with it. And I could pay guys to do it for what some of the prices I get.

But my wood package and trusses will be about 25k, excluding labor. I frame, but piece out the trusses.

Where'd the horsie trailer go?

Another Fine House By Tahoe:

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Just don't huff and puff around my houses.

But my wood package...

Do you mean vs materials?

Cuz like the drywall bid obviosly has drywall and labor to hang it. I should say that out here almost NO builder does everything. I won't touch drywall or insulation.

I get a number for drywall, hang, tape, top, finish. Same for insulation. I want nothing to do with it. And I could pay guys to do it for what some of the prices I get.

But my wood package and trusses will be about 25k, excluding labor. I frame, but piece out the trusses.

Yeah, I meant vs materials but I thought when you said you built houses you ... you know ... built them. I assumed you were only contracting out the work that needed additional licensing. I didn't realize you were so dainty.

That keep out sign is great. It'd sure stop me.

That keep out sign is great. It'd sure stop me.

When times are slow, Tahoe sells those signs to earn extra money. He makes 'em right on site for ya.

Those neighbors must be hating your ass right about now.

That keep out sign is great. It'd sure stop me.

My Course of Construction Ins policy asked for a 6x6 sign that said Keep Out. I gave it to them.

Yeah, I meant vs materials but I thought when you said you built houses you ... you know ... built them. I assumed you were only contracting out the work that needed additional licensing. I didn't realize you were so dainty.

No work needs additional licensing. No GC builds a house form start to finish out here. NO BODY.

It's not a matter of being dainty, its a matter of purchasing power and, for me, respecting the trades. If you dont' do a Imperfect Smooth with Voids every day, you are NOT going to be good at it and consistent.

General Constractors rely on subs to do their thing. I don't know all of the specific electrical codes that the libs have imposed on our homes out here. I rely on qualified electricians to do that.

When I was building in Tahoe, a guy fell of a roof I was framing. Nothing to do with me. I don't get on roofs at my age.

When I was growing up, my Uncle did everything when he build a home for someone, but there is soooooo much shit that goes into a house out here these days that no builder does it all. We have subs that do specific work.

Those neighbors must be hating your ass right about now.

The neighbor that originally hated me now kind of likes, and the neighbor that originally liked me, now hates me. The neighbor in the back...the wife hates me, the husband is trying to keep the peace.

My Course of Construction Ins policy asked for a 6x6 sign that said Keep Out. I gave it to them.

BTW...since none of you dumbasses know what a 6x6 sign is, I'll call myself out here...they asked for a 4x6 sign, not a 6x6. That is clearly NOT a 6x6 sign.

I happened to not feeling like cutting down a 4x8 to 4x6, but it meets a requirement for my Ins.

No work needs additional licensing.

Like the plumbing and the electrical for which you need additional licenses other than just a simple builders license.

I was only playing about the dainty thing. I was surprised at how much you are subbing out though.

I can plumb a house with my General designation. I can do most anything if I wanted too.

The thing is that to have peeps know all the shit of each specific trade that you would need to keep a LOT of employees. The problem with that is the cost of Workers Compensation in CA. Its ridiculous. Outsource it.

Seriously, if you are good "Finish Constractor" Crown, base, doors, cabs, there is no way you would have all the tools and shit to do a 3-coat stucco. Its just the way it is.

I can plumb a house with my General designation. I can do most anything if I wanted too.

World Peace?
Cure cancer?
Make Bukdow cool?

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Photos from N. Korea, after the nuke blast?

BTW, that's sure a lot of long, thick pipes you got there Tahoe.

Does your wife know about that?

Make sure you leave a few large crawl spaces.

Slab foundation, not a conventional. All those pipes are about 12" below grade.

Slab foundation, not a conventional. All those pipes are about 12" below grade.

12 inches.

Well played.

Passed a big inspection today. Pour this bitch. Hopefully tomorrow.

For Foo...Some things Tahoe did...

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I set the hardware above. It just sucks when someone else sets the hardware and its wrong.

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I set the HD's and the Js


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Oops! I did not set this side of the Strong Wall

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More hardware.

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I set the hardware and did the double up here, Foo

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I see, so Tahoe takes the pictures then?

Here's the side of the Strong Wall I set

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When you do your own framing, or have someone frame the WAY I WANT IT FRAMED, you have to set the hardware accordingly.

There are also various other nails I pounded in.

I'm good, but I can't hold a 20 footer and nail it off without somebody doing the same thing on the other side.

How do you do all of that without spilling your drink?

I see, so Tahoe takes the pictures then?

Yes, Tahoe does has taken most of these pics. I do

How do you do all of that without spilling your drink?

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Yes, Tahoe does has taken most of these pics. I do

sub some of the picture taking out though, Foo. The wife takes some pics sometimes.

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No drinkie drinkie till the work is done and tools are put away.

I didn't know they made pineapple Budwiser.

Good work T.

There was some work done today on 1 house today, but I was at my other project I have going in the next city over.

Employing peeps at both.

I guess I could nail some boards at one or the other and make carpenter wages, but I chose to be a general contractor. AND ITS LEGAL!

Also, I'm finishing up 2 other small things. How dare I have all these things going!

When isn't a republican trying to show off how much money they make?

Good job man, you're winning!

lol...

Its not about that at all. I've been taking in the shorts with this economy.

Its about what I do, and what you don't understand about the business. Thats all. Maybe things are different in Michigan. General Contractors out here get the business and respect trades.

I still will prolly frame it, side it, set cabs, crown and base and doors, tile, etc. Which is more than most GCs do.

Sorry you don't understand.

There was some work done today on 1 house today, but I was at my other project I have going in the next city over.

Employing peeps at both.

I guess I could nail some boards at one or the other and make carpenter wages, but I chose to be a general contractor. AND ITS LEGAL!

Also, I'm finishing up 2 other small things. How dare I have all these things going!
Yep. All about what you do. Not about the money at all. You're still winning. If only I understood it I might win just like you.

Amazing that you pull that out of what I wrote.

But good day to you.

Its free market. If peeps don't want to sign a contract with me, they don't have to.

I've made carpenter wages, which you think I should be doing and nothing more, but then I wouldn't be able to employ peeps.

Sorry man, its my choice.

Yeah, it was a tough code. You Serves are subtle.

DRILL BABY DRILL!

[You edited your post.]

^ I think you are jealous and nothing more.

You wouldn't be a Serve if you didn't assume everyone was jealous of you. Gotta keep what is yours away from everyone who's trying to take if from you.

Dude, are you having a meltdown?

You are starting to go off the deep end.

I'm just so jealous of you is all.

^ And Gl'enn.

lol! Indeed! I'm extremely jealous of Glenn!

"I" poured the footing today, Foo. "I" drove to the concrete plant, then "I" mixed the concrete, then "I" drove the concrete truck up and "I" filled it. Then "I" drove the jobsite, then "I" drove over and picked up a concrete pump, then "I" dumped the concrete in the pump AND started the pump AND carried all that heavy hose AND pumped the footings.

Then "I" wet set the verts, then "I" adjusted the hardware, then even though I was still doing all of that, "I" stripped the form boards on the garage (pretty tricky, huh?) then "I" stacked all the concrete to grade, then "I" bent the verts, then "I" drove back and got a 2nd truck of concrete and a 3rd and eventually a 3 yd clean up.

And "I" did it "ALL MYSELF"

I'm so happy thinking maybe now, we can be friends.

You mixed three truck loads of cement?

I get that shit delivered.

^ hells yeah.

And I went to my other jobsite and made sure the layout was correct.

So do you libs have a problem with me having more than 1 contract going at the same time?

Get your boy on it. He might want to regulate that too.

Tell me again how much money you pay other people. It's so impressive.

Going wages.

Tell me again why you think anyone gives a fuck about what you claim to do for a living.

Cheap shot Zip.

But fucking hilarious.

Why the fuck do you think I put it in the stands you dumb cocksuckers

I think Tahoe needs to MAKE A WEBSITE.

We're cocksuckers? Dude, be thankful you got 10 pages out of this piece of shit thread.

You don't see the Aks Pharaoh thread reaching that figure...

Your life must be more entertaining for the masses

Updated Pictures??

Cheap shot Zip.

But fucking hilarious.

I agree, but someone had to say it. Especiall when he whines about all the permits and rules and regs and shit. Hey, you know what you're getting into--don't complain about the gubmint not wanting urban sprawl to expand infinitely--there's a reason they make it harder and harder to do this stupid shit. Too bad for some fuck if he can't build his dream house on a mountainside. Mountainsides weren't meant to live on.

And yes, I saw the white text

We're cocksuckers? Dude, be thankful you got 10 pages out of this piece of shit thread.

You don't see the Aks Pharaoh thread reaching that figure...

Your life must be more entertaining for the masses

You callin my house a pos, you cocksucker? j/k

This shit should be fuckin stickied.

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Garage dolbied

10 mil going down

backing out with gravel

Sanded and matted but not dolbied

Tying

What are the dimensions on this bad boy?

23 hundred living, 600 front garage, 400 covered front entry and back patio, roughly. So the trusses will cover all of that.

Solid on the covered patio. Those are nice. What is a 600 garage? I don't know if I've ever read square footage for one.

I'm not sure I'm following your question... just a 25x24 garage, 600 sq ft. The city just breaks it out cuz its taxed differently than living space and covered patio.

I will put up another 2 car in the back for me and the construction stuff.

2 car, is what I was looking for.

I agree, but someone had to say it. Especiall when he whines about all the permits and rules and regs and shit. Hey, you know what you're getting into--don't complain about the gubmint not wanting urban sprawl to expand infinitely--there's a reason they make it harder and harder to do this stupid shit. Too bad for some fuck if he can't build his dream house on a mountainside. Mountainsides weren't meant to live on.

And yes, I saw the white text

Oh wow, Zip being real...or trying to be real. LMAO

Zip tellin it the way it is. Life according to Zip. LMAO

Zip pouting. LMAO

Just go jerk off to your neighbor shoveling snow, Zip

Better watch it, Tahoe. I'll get the Intranets Sheriff after you.



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We're cocksuckers? Dude, be thankful you got 10 pages out of this piece of shit thread.

You don't see the Aks Pharaoh thread reaching that figure...

Your life must be more entertaining for the masses



You callin my house a pos, you cocksucker? j/k

This shit should be fuckin stickied.


This should not be stickied. And I called this thread a piece of shit.

It's your diary of building this house, dude.

Unless you're gonna break down each job step by step for the peeps who know sweet fuck all about house building it's kind of fucking pointless for everyone to read.

(Yeah, I know - don't read it)

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I want to "work" for Tahoe.

3 crews?

I want to "work" for Tahoe.

lol...They were worried about the stem wall floating away.

lol...They were worried about the stem wall floating away.

Why, did Barak Obama make you pour a shitty foundation?

^^LOL. That's kind of funny.

I actually thought it was kind of weak. Weak on the funny front and weak on the jab front.

Zip failed. Its not often he fails, but he failed there.

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I suck at smoothing concrete. That looks good.

Ass prints on Tahoe's floor. The wife oughtta like it.

Tahoe:

Why the lack of a basement? Is is a problem with the ground, or too costly?

Why don't you do drywall? I found mudding and taping to be a pain in the ass, but hanging the drywall was pretty fun.

Tahoe:

Why the lack of a basement? Is is a problem with the ground, or too costly?

Why don't you do drywall? I found mudding and taping to be a pain in the ass, but hanging the drywall was pretty fun.

We just don't do basements in CA. I don't know why. It would be nice out here with the dry hot air out here. I do think its cheaper to go up (2 story) than the extra excavation, engineering on walls below the ground with earthquakes.

The finish out here are really hard...and I like them. Like an imperfect smoot with voids. Its really cool looking and is helpful if you are doing a faux painting. If you don't do it every day, you are NOT going to be doing it consistently throughout the house. I like to use guys that do it every day.

And...construction money is costly right now out here. So I need to have the next sub lined up and ready to go. They are.

edit...I dont' think you saw my question to you a lil while ago, but what is your confidence level in Weis?

We just don't do basements in CA. I don't know why. It would be nice out here with the dry hot air out here. I do think its cheaper to go up (2 story) than the extra excavation, engineering on walls below the ground with earthquakes.

The finish out here are really hard...and I like them. Like an imperfect smoot with voids. Its really cool looking and is helpful if you are doing a faux painting. If you don't do it every day, you are NOT going to be doing it consistently throughout the house. I like to use guys that do it every day.

In other words, I'md drunk again, and will probably end up in jail as usual, and I don't really build houses as much as I take the initial downpayment from poor saps and disappear. I'm gay.

This season will tell. He has his QB, his offense, his defense, everyone is there because Weis put them there. I think he will do fine, BCS berth, which is all us ND people want.

This season will tell. Tahoe has his QB, his offense, his defense, everyone is there because Tahoe put them there. I think he will do fine, BCS berth, which is all us ND people want.

Location: Crew 2

I lol'd a little.

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I'll let Fool handle this.

AoW

Why is that guy wearing a crossing guard shirt?

Ha, I just noticed the Coors Light....that's great!

Why is that guy wearing a crossing guard shirt?

It's a union requirement to wear shirts like those on some jobs. He left the union a while back.

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Framing...day 1.2

Framing is where the fun starts. Fuck concrete. Wood working 4tW.

Can you hurry up and finish the fucking house so this thread doesn't appear on the New Posts list again?

No offense, dude - but this thread is boring as fuck.

You give out no info on what the hell you're doing, no instructions for people who have no idea and it seems you are just using this thread as your personal fucking diary of the job.

Buy a fucking diary and stop bumping this shit.

Framing is where the fun starts. Fuck concrete. Wood working 4tW.

Framing and finish carpentry is where its at.

Can you hurry up and finish the fucking house so this thread doesn't appear on the New Posts list again?

No offense, dude - but this thread is boring as fuck.

You give out no info on what the hell you're doing, no instructions for people who have no idea and it seems you are just using this thread as your personal fucking diary of the job.

Buy a fucking diary and stop bumping this shit.

Ah, building a house.

Can you hurry up and finish the fucking house so this thread doesn't appear on the New Posts list again?

No offense, dude - but this thread is boring as fuck.

You give out no info on what the hell you're doing, no instructions for people who have no idea and it seems you are just using this thread as your personal fucking diary of the job.

Buy a fucking diary and stop bumping this shit.

Yeah, no shit. This isn't twitter.

I actually find it pretty amusing.
And come on P, you really think half of us have any interest in that there wrestling thread??

Yeah, no shit. This isn't twitter.

More post padding on Tahoe's back.

I swear y'all have more posts, especially Billy, on my posts and threads than you have meaningful on the rest of the board.

If you don't like it, 'move along cocksuckers, nothing to see here'. And let the thread die.

<< agrees with the 'hoe

It can't die with you bumpin' it with more posts, dickhead.

And Vinny - people are actually posting in the wrestling thread and discussion is taking place between more than 2 dudes.

Here? It's Tahoe's diary.

And dude doesn't even give a detailed account of the day. Here's a photo of my lazy ass crews. Here's a photo of the timber. Here's a photo of the slab.

If a poster doesn't ask for some actual fucking info it's not given. And when I asked for info his answer is "Building a house!"

No shit, Sherlock. Tell me something I don't know. How many fucking bedrooms, how many square feet, is it sold yet or are you hoping to sell it on completion, where the fuck is it, 1 lounge/family room or 2, etc.

Yeah Vin. The rastling thread has 3 dudes posting in it. Clearly not the same thing as this one.

And P. You should try reading the thread. Every question you asked has already been answered.

Pharaoh, if Tahoe told you all that shit, it'd probably be bullshit. It's the intranets.
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^ PGA fan.

I find this thread quite interesting. No need to click on it if you don't like it.

I find this thread quite interesting. No need to click on it if you don't like it.


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Tahoe ready for action as his "unclean" neighbors approach....

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Yeah, the wrestling thread is lame but this thread right here is the shit, yo.

It's got pics and stuff.

It's got answers to your questions.

It's got that entertainment factor.

And it's in The Stands.

And it's in The Stands. :cogent:

Considering its location, this thread is far better.

Well, Tahoe can tell you it's all about location, location.

And Tahoe - not everything is serious dude. Chill out a little, sit down with your 4 crews and have a cold one or 3.

Well, Tahoe can tell you it's all about location, location.

And Tahoe - not everything is serious dude. Chill out a little, sit down with your 4 crews and have a cold one or 3.

Look who shows up...AGAIN!

It that what you say when you arrive at the work site of one of your 5 crews while drinking that pineapple bullshit you call alcohol?

It that what you say when you arrive at the work site of one of your 5 crews while drinking that pineapple bullshit you call alcohol?

You are sounding sooooooo grumpy these days. Try a candy bar.

Or you could amuse yourself by talking shit to Tahoe...

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I think someone was asking about the foundation hardware...maybe not. Anyway, this is how it ties into the framing members. The stabs are embedded 24ish inches into the concrete and its bolted up through these pre-engineered panels. Tons of shear value in those 2 foot panels.

Its all about fighting the forces of an earthquake...out here anyway. I don't know what they are having peeps do in Michigan.

Man, I'll bet at least one of your six crews has to know how to make particle board stand up like that. Quality shit, man.

Particle board....LMMFAO!

Keep posting Zip. Hilarious.

I think someone was asking about the foundation hardware...maybe not. Anyway, this is how it ties into the framing members. The stabs are embedded 24ish inches into the concrete and its bolted up through these pre-engineered panels. Tons of shear value in those 2 foot panels.

Its all about fighting the forces of an earthquake...out here anyway. I don't know what they are having peeps do in Michigan.

straps on a sill plate....we don't have none of them there earthquakes 'round here

Is it Cali code to line the inside and outside with OSB?

Just where an engineer is trying to gain shear value and if he needs a lot in that section.

So there might be a 12 foot section between windows. He'll/she'll put a hold down at the 1st king inside and then have a nailing schedule on the osb in that section and possibly on the inside as well.

It just depends. I have inside shear on 3 different walls on this house.

Yeah, I assumed it was a stabilization thing.

Yeah, I assumed it was a goddamm LIBERAL TREE HUGGING REQUIREMENT thing. Next thing you know, the fuckers will make you stop using drywall soaked in formeldahyde. All because a lttle mold killed a few kids. Boo Hoo

Just where an engineer is trying to gain shear value and if he needs a lot in that section.

So there might be a 12 foot section between windows. He'll/she'll put a hold down at the 1st king inside and then have a nailing schedule on the osb in that section and possibly on the inside as well.

It just depends. I have inside shear on 3 different walls on this house.

Liberal tendancies?

Fuckin trusses were supposed to be here monday noonish, I got a call about 3 and the crane was their so I went there and they had 10 fuckin trusses. Mother humpers.

Mother humpers?

You mean Motherfuckers, right T?

Mother humpers?

You mean Motherfuckers, right T?

Hells fuckin yea!

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Tahoe: I'm not trying to give you a hard time. This is my first legit post in this thread (I think):

How long does it take you to go from bare patch of land to finished product?

Over here it seems to take forever for builders to finish the fucking thing. Maybe it's because of subs having schedule conflicts or whatever but it still seems to take ages.

One of my friends just built a house and it took 18 months! They took forever just to lay the slab and once it was laid it was still months of bullshit to get it finished.

Our house went up in about 2 months from start to finish.

Thanks Tahoe... or it's you Chris. Thanks for answering.

Tahoe: I'm not trying to give you a hard time. This is my first legit post in this thread (I think):

How long does it take you to go from bare patch of land to finished product?

Over here it seems to take forever for builders to finish the fucking thing. Maybe it's because of subs having schedule conflicts or whatever but it still seems to take ages.

One of my friends just built a house and it took 18 months! They took forever just to lay the slab and once it was laid it was still months of bullshit to get it finished.

3 1/2 to 4 months. Depends on size, complexity, where you build.

Our house went up in about 2 months from start to finish.

doesn't sound like a custom....but who am I.

Thanks Tahoe... or it's you Chris. Thanks for answering.

2 months is unrealistic for a house of quality. :)

So Tahoe, are you saying Chris lives in a shitty house?

EXCUSE ME, but do shitty houses have kitchens on the SECOND FLOOR?

So Tahoe, are you saying Chris lives in a shitty house?

I'll say it. Probably one of those home building companies that buy up huge tracks of land and stamp out houses by the dozen. Advertize "the most square footage for the money in town." You buy lighting packages, window covering packages, floor coverings. Package A, B, C. Base price: 125,000. Any upgrades--added on at pretty good cost. Saves money. The builder will spend about 300.00 per house for lighting, less on everything else--such as a cheaper grade of window, etc. No eaves, no character--maybe a basement bathroom rough in if you're lucky. Great starter homes--but most the time you want to move before the basement floor starts cracking and the driveway starts crumbling.

Sorry, Chris. I used to work with builders that toss up homes in two months. Good luck. Sell now.

P, if you count waiting for permits to come through before actually starting any real work it can sometimes take a while.

When I hear kitchen on the second floor I think of houses that have been converted into two or more apartments. Those houses are usually pretty shitty.

Wouldn't the time needed to build be directly related to the size of the crew(s)?

Isn't it possible that Chris' builders had more hands on deck?

The last few posts are irresponsible message boarding, IMO.

So Tahoe, are you saying Chris lives in a shitty house?

If it went up in 2 months, it is a production house, as Zip has described. Quality of production houses is NOT up to a custom. But they still kind of work.

GD - "Irresponsible message boarding"? LMAO

When did you get so sensitive?

I don't think we're disrespecting Chris or his house - just trying to get an idea of how long it takes to build the kind of houses Tahoe builds.

He seems to have a lot of crews and it's still gonna take 4 months.

Did the dudes that built Chris' house have more hands on deck? Maybe. Who knows or really cares?

I'm sure it's possible that the dudes that built Chris' house were/are better and more organised than other builders and this fact allows them to build quality homes in less time it would take some others...

Look, we're all just shooting the shit about building houses.

IF Chris is offended (and I doubt it) then my bad, Chris - I was being a smart ass and didn't think it would turn into a discussion of your house.

And GD - lighten up - or go play Devil's Advocate somewhere.

Having more peeps can fuck things up. I'd rather have 3-4 good framers than 6-8 peeps on a house. There are so many ways to frame up a house that you really need 1 chief. 1 way, his way.

This 'crew' thing is overblown. Thats why you use subs. No contractors out here does everything. Once its framed, run the subs through. Those peeps are not on your payroll. They have their shit together for their trade.

Also, I have 1 crew currently...and thats a good thing. The other jobs/constracts are done.

P, I thought you knew me well enough to know when I'm fucking around.

I really didn't think you were dishing out a scolding.

FWIW, anytime I mention "message boarding", "serious internet" and any other such nonsense, I'm just shitting around.

You're all on thin ice now.

Well, you fooled me.

Also, I have 1 crew currently...and thats a good thing. The other jobs/constracts are done.


So Fool's been laid off?? Damn you and your greed.

Guess I should have read this thread recently. No, it was not a custom home. It was a model floor plan that you simply customize your colors, flooring, kitchen, etc.

It is very well built actually. We were allowed to go in it at any time during construction and did so quite frequently. I've never build a home before, but I took architecture classes and my dad works for one as well. So I know enough to know what they are doing but not enough to do it myself.

I'm confident it is a very quality home. I never said yours wasn't Tahoe (not sure why you even went there). Someone asked how long it takes to build a home and I answered, that's it.

Maybe the crew working on my house didn't sit around drinking Coors Light all day.

I took it there Chris.

I was being a smart ass and trying to bait Tahoe into saying your house was shitty.

I meant no offense. Please, forgive me.

I did say Please

Actually Tahoe took it there:


2 months is unrealistic for a house of quality. :)

And I'm not offended. I know he's just playing.

Um, oh, well don't forgive me then.

I take back my request and demand some sort of monies to be paid to myself on behalf of yourself so as to keep me happies in nappies for the years to come.

Fuck it, good night. Fucking yanks and midnight start times.

You gotta rock late to rock like an American.

2 months is unrealistic for a house of quality. :)

I would assume cardboard and staples would not fit into this category.

Guess I should have read this thread recently. No, it was not a custom home. It was a model floor plan that you simply customize your colors, flooring, kitchen, etc.

It is very well built actually. We were allowed to go in it at any time during construction and did so quite frequently. I've never build a home before, but I took architecture classes and my dad works for one as well. So I know enough to know what they are doing but not enough to do it myself.

I'm confident it is a very quality home. I never said yours wasn't Tahoe (not sure why you even went there). Someone asked how long it takes to build a home and I answered, that's it.

Maybe the crew working on my house didn't sit around drinking Coors Light all day.

I put a smiley face by my post. But if you want to get your panties in a bunch, go ahead.

You gotta rock late to rock like an American.

LMAO

Can someone update this for me? I'm tired.

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Tahoe, you're going to get a twitter. Got it?

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future home of Tahoe's TV

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The revival of this thread deserves one big

HELL YEAH

The revival of this thread deserves one big

HELL YEAH

Agree 100%

And who woulda thought "Billy" would miss this thread?

Those aren't shingles. What is that slate? What are the windows made of? Is that last pic pillars directly in front of a doorwall? Are those recessed lighting wholes in the ceiling (the round ones)? You make that choice as a builder? Ten foot high walls (horizontally hung drywall)?

Looking good overall T.

So, unless you include a pic of the floor plan I think most of us will be lost on what is supposed to be what.

Yeah fool, it looks like ten feet.

Tahoe, how much room is in front of the house? It seems to me like a small front yard. (Especially compared to the house next door)

Where is the shrine to Rush going?

I'M JUST KIDDING, RELAX AND CONTINUE

Where is the shrine to Bush going?

I'M JUST KIDDING, RELAX AND CONTINUE

^ Was that a foul, or do Appreciation Thread Rules not apply here?

Either way, I am excited for more updates!!!

brown coat

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Those aren't shingles. What is that slate? What are the windows made of? Is that last pic pillars directly in front of a doorwall? Are those recessed lighting wholes in the ceiling (the round ones)? You make that choice as a builder? Ten foot high walls (horizontally hung drywall)?

Looking good overall T.

Tile roof

Glass <-funny huh?

It does look like they are in front of it, but they aren't.

Yes, recessed lighting.

Yes, a billion decisions go into lights.

Horizontal. I've never seen vertical. Mud joints will be where you can get to them, I guess. 12 footers wouldn't work vertically either.

This deserves a big wah, but I have been on this bitch every day for the last 30 days or so....and some 14 hour days. Beer consumption actually went up...if thats possible.

Meh. Looks pre-fab.

Also great job so far.

Can't wait for you to finish, Tahoe.

Any chance of posting that floor plan?

Would help someone like myself get their bearings a bit...

Not the glass part of the window. Are they vinyl or fiberglass frames? Is the garage right on the property line there?

Not the glass part of the window. Are they vinyl or fiberglass frames? Is the garage right on the property line there?

I white texted you. Its a composite some fuckin thing or other.

I normally use Milguard window, but they are going through some changes according to the window guru I use. Lots of consolidation in the window market too.

The garage is set back 5ft. It does look like its on it though.

The front garage is the wifes...I'm going to build me a garage in the back. The lot has back access from the cul-de-sac.

You don't use Guardian windows from Wallside?

They can do it.

Is that the 'You can do it, we can help' peeps?

They are the factory.

Yeah fool, it looks like ten feet.

Tahoe, how much room is in front of the house? It seems to me like a small front yard. (Especially compared to the house next door)

Correct...not a lot of front yard. 45ish feet to the front entry. It's not the best lot I've ever bought, but I kind of stole it.

I shoved the house to the front cuz I have a street in the back that I can access the lot from. 2 big oak trees, etc, so the back yard is nice...especially for someone like me that isn't into mowing the lawn every week.

Can't wait for you to finish, Tahoe.

Any chance of posting that floor plan?

Would help someone like myself get their bearings a bit...

I don't have any floor plan on small enough scale to post, but at some point I'll get on that.

I don't have any floor plan on small enough scale to post, but at some point I'll get on that.

TRANSLATION

I'm kind of a big deal and my house is gonna be huge.

TRANSLATION

I'm kind of a big deal and my house is gonna be huge.

I trust there will be plenty of rich mahogany.

"A million decisions go into lighting."--and you take the easy way out with recessed lighting instead of fixtures. No wall washing? No pendants? Any ceiling fans? I do hope your recessed lighting is going to be LED--or at the very least, flourescent (I'm hoping the tree huggers have forced all new construction in California into that Energy Star stuff by now just to piss you off!).

TRANSLATION

I'm kind of a big deal and my house is gonna be huge.

Better translation...I'm old and can't see something that small. Plans aren't on 8.5x11 peeps.

Thats actually kind of funny though. I could see a bunch of workers standing around looking at 8x11s. lol

Better translation...I'm old and can't see something that small. Plans aren't on 8.5x11 peeps.

Thats actually kind of funny though. I could see a bunch of workers standing around looking at 8x11s. lol

TWSS

228...

ILTDWO

WTF is TWSS?

WTF is ILTDWO?

While I was away you guys got even more lazy!

The hardest one used to be IBSSKS or something like it.

Now it seems people can make an entire post nto a 5 letter thing and I'm sitting here at midnight wondering WTF!

IAS

TWSS = that's what she said.

No idea what ILTDWO is. It's Tahoe.

door I the wide left open

What's nto?

MIWGCLADL

(My illegal workers guzzle Coors Light all day long)

Which room is the Chad Kroeger shrine going in?

Which room is the Chad Kroeger shrine going in?

^ Instant classic

Never heard of him...afaict anyway.

Never heard of him...afaict anyway.

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LIAR!!!!

Oh, him. I know I had to look this guy's name up. So never heard of him, was wrong, but not lying.

Oh, him. I know I had to look this guy's name up. So never heard of him, was wrong, but not lying.
Obama is still a racist though.

Ha ha ha. Ha Ha Ha. HA HA HA!

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fuckin tico nails will get you every time.

Have you installed your Gates security system yet?

I think that piece of skin, and some flesh, is going to reattach to my thumb. Cool.

Fuckin fuck and shit.

Fuckin fuck and shit.

I'd recommend shitting first. Prarie-doggin it while you're getting laid takes some of the enjoyment out of the experience.

I'd recommend shitting first. Prarie-doggin it while you're getting laid takes some of the enjoyment out of the experience.

Unless you're into that shit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

sorry.

I'd recommend shitting first. Prarie-doggin it while you're getting laid takes some of the enjoyment out of the experience.

I agree. Nothing should get in the way of taking a good dump.