http://www.freep.com/article/20090330/SPORTS06/903300375/?imw=Y

10.44 seconds. suddenly, im a little more interested in the other qb we recruited this year.

http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/260/14405-b-4x100-final-01

Not sure if that still works, he's the anchor...you'll know which one.

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Bad News................

Shoelace is no longer the 2nd fastest high schooler in the country.....

HE IS THE FASTEST. Denard Robinson ran a 10.28 over the weekend, which is officially the fastest time in the country this year.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sp...0,4176389.story

According to Track and Field News, the high school record for 100 meters is 10.13 seconds by Derrick Florence of Bell High School in Galveston, Texas run in June, 1986.

it would be awesome to watch this kid absolutely make assholes of the defense, but i wonder if going the olympic route might not be a better choice for this kid. for people wondering how ussain bolt would do in the nfl, here he is.

Are you trying to say the Olympics compare to playing at UofM?

No friggin way! j/k

it would be awesome to watch this kid absolutely make assholes of the defense, but i wonder if going the olympic route might not be a better choice for this kid. for people wondering how ussain bolt would do in the nfl, here he is.

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i dont know what it is, but i knew when i wrote that post it would piss you off. i actually thought it would be the ussain bolt comment.

anyway, im just calling it like i see it. i would much rather be a gold winning olympian than some guy who used to be a situational backup at the university of michigan. if he makes it to the nfl (reciever maybe?) then i guess that would be the best route.

There's nothing that says he can't run in the Olympics. There are a number of football players at UM who are on the track team as well. I believe Brandon Graham threw shot. I thought Mike Martin and/or Vince Hlemmuth were involved with the team at some point. Troy Woolfolk is absolutely on one of the relay teams and will be happy to have D-Rob running with him.

As for the QB job, I have a feeling Tate will get the job, but I wonder if D-Rob will get some looks as well. Perhaps lined up as a WR and running the reverse with an option to look down the field for the pass if a DB breaks off his route and leaves a guy wide open. The only issue with D-Rob as a QB is he completed less than 50% of his passes. That more than anything gives Tate the edge (Tate completed between 60-70%). But I think it would be a mistake to exclude D-Rob even if Tate does win the job. Whether they give him an occasional series or just an occasional snap, they should get him involved. And, by the way, it shouldn't be just to run. They've pulled that crap with Carlos Brown in the past and it's too easy for the defense. "Oh, he's in, he'll run." If you let the guy throw on occasion the defense is more likely to have to be honest. Go Vince Young and let him run until a yard before he crosses the line of scrimmage and dump it behind the LB's for a big gain. That's what Rich Rod wants, guys with the ball in space. I would not be surprised to see Tate get 80% of the snaps and D-Rob get 20%.

i expect that, too. kind of the perrileuax (sp?) role in LSU.

give the d a different look, but the less hits forcier takes the better, and the more experience his backup takes better too.

i hope shiradan is 3rd on the depth chart. he can have all the experience in the world, it wont change the fact that hes a medium speed, week arm that also isnt all that accurate.

i dont know what it is, but i knew when i wrote that post it would piss you off. i actually thought it would be the ussain bolt comment.

anyway, im just calling it like i see it. i would much rather be a gold winning olympian than some guy who used to be a situational backup at the university of michigan. if he makes it to the nfl (reciever maybe?) then i guess that would be the best route.

You are forecasting shit just like a good Scout poster. Even before the kid sets a foot on campus you have him holding a clipboard and running in the olympics. I do believe Robinson has signed with UM to play football. I also believe that I will not be surprised when he takes over after the 5'10 165 pound Forcier is smooshed in the Notre Dame game. The only other thing that might happen with Denard is he ends up a starting cornerback for 4 years. That, of course, depends on whether the 135 pound bench pressing Forcier can withstand the beating he's going to take.

Forcier is small enough with the real numbers. You don't have to exaggerate it by 2 inches and 20 lbs to make your point.
But don't worry, as an early enrollee he'll get 15 days more chocolate milk than most freshmen.

Mmmkay. You buy the bullshit that he's 6', 185? There, that's a good bo, tout the company line. If ya'll muthafuckas click ya'lls red high heeled shoes together and scream loud enough, Tate Forcier just might git to 5'11 and 175 someday.

And the 135 pound bench press is straight from the horse's mouth, which is unlike your posts, which are straight from the horse's ass.

You say I'm too serious, yet you're the one stalking Forcier with a scale and a measuring tape.
Well done ice queen.

• Apparently, U-M recruit Denard Robinson keeps getting faster. The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that the quarterback ran a 10.28 100-meter dash in a meet last Wednesday, on the heels of his 10.44 the previous week. While it's unclear whether that was hand-timed or electronic, in Michigan it would be a state record, beating the mark of 10.44 set at the 2006 Division 2 state meet by Clinton Allen of Muskegon Orchard View.

states is in early may, im sure he'll be gunning for the high school national record. that gives him another month to shave about 1/10 of a second. thats pretty unbelievable.

jethro: michigan athletics are pretty competitive. its remarkeable to be a 2 sport athlete, even if it is a spring / fall deal. but theres a difference between being on the track team and attempting to be a world class sprinter. here i am talking out of my ass, but i think if robinson really wanted to go for the olympics he would have to forego football.

if i were to present this in a venn diagram, the left circle would be "football", the right circle would be "world class sprinter", and the middle overlap would be "football and track". notice it doesnt say "football and world class sprinter".

I'm not trying to suggest he could win an Olympic gold while playing football for UM.
However, he's already running 10.28 while in high school and playing football. Why couldn't he continue to thrive while doing both in college? Does Barwis training fail to add speed? I though I had read about how many guys were faster this year after training than they were the same time last year. I think training in this system could help him trim more time off - and remember that a 10.20 was run in the semifinal at the Olympics last year. He's not far from that right now - so even though track IS competitive at UM, being .08 off from a time run in an Olympic semifinal is probably good enough to run at UM. I'm just saying I expect the team to be interested and I wouldn't be surprised if Troy Woolfolk was working on him to join up.

However, my main hope is still that he enjoys a decent amount of time on the football field running with the ball and periodically getting it to other players with space to make big plays.

if i were to present this in a venn diagram, the left circle would be "football", the right circle would be "world class sprinter", and the middle overlap would be "football and track". notice it doesnt say "football and world class sprinter".

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post of the year. the ease of access to information is off the charts.

oh, and the addition of color? bravo!

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notice how zip has no response to the venn?

what you gotta write now, zip? you aint gotta write nothin, homeboy.

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The age of Wizzle my friends.

Marcus Thigpen did quite well at Indiana in football and track (though I think his fastest 100 time in competition was a 10.70, which was still one of the top 10 performances in the Big Ten that year).

I still think the best bet would be to have the ball in his hands about 10-15 times per game, whether that meant taking snaps, in the slot, whatever. You could put both he and Tate in the backfield and have the defense guessing on who would get the snap, with the possibility of a backwards pass from one to the other which could then result in either a run or a forward pass.

The number of potential gimmick plays there is insane. Teams rarely win with an abundance of gimmick plays, but when you have two guys as involved in the offense as they are, it could certainly work.

Look at Florida a few years back, Tebow's freshman year.
Leak was the primary QB, attempting 365 passes, but he also ran 77 times with a long of 45 yards and 3 TDs.
Tebow attempted 33 passes and ran 89 times.
The biggest difference is UM could use him more often in the slot.

Robinson in the slot now? He is actually a highly rated cornerback recruit. He's probably never played recriver in his life--but that won't stop Michigan fans from plugging him into some position or another. Is it the new coaching staff, the lousy season, or what? I mean, it's all the sudden a foreign concept to Wolverine fans that a kid actually play the position he was recruited to, or that he be put into a position at Michigan that he actually played in high school.

If only that dumbfuck Lloyd would have put Chad Henne at split end and Matt Gutierrez at running back, and Clayton Richard at quarterback! WOWIE! THAT would have been some kind of team!

By the way, the snail known as Ted Ginn, Jr has info on his website. As you may recall he was back-to-back state champion in the 110 meter hurdles, as well as the national champion his senior year. He apparently ran a 4.27 40 at one point. But according to tedginnonline.com he ran a pedestrain 10.5 100 yard dash. Seriously, dude is slow.

Robinson in the slot now? He is actually a highly rated cornerback recruit. He's probably never played recriver in his life--but that won't stop Michigan fans from plugging him into some position or another. Is it the new coaching staff, the lousy season, or what? I mean, it's all the sudden a foreign concept to Wolverine fans that a kid actually play the position he was recruited to, or that he be put into a position at Michigan that he actually played in high school.

If only that dumbfuck Lloyd would have put Chad Henne at split end and Matt Gutierrez at running back, and Clayton Richard at quarterback! WOWIE! THAT would have been some kind of team!

Referencing this and my previous post - when you get someone that can blaze and catch (which a DB is supposed to be able to do) and they understand the offense (which a QB is supposed to do) and you have someone else who is a far more accurate passer (which Forcier is), YOU GET THEM THE BALL SOMEHOW!

Ginn was the top DB in the country and Ohio State realized they couldn't afford to keep him on that side of the ball so much. D-Rob is FASTER! Charles Woodson was doing just fine as a DB, but they realized they had to get him the ball. But wait, oh no, that's a position change! Next thing you know the Patriots will use Mike Vrabel as an eligble receiver on the goal line. No, that's crazy! After all, he's a Pro Bowl LB. Well, I guess it's not that big of a deal as long as it's a meaningless preseason game and not the Super Bowl.

My point is that Denard will be the quarterback at Michigan by next season, especially after Forcier gets smooshed. I like Forcier, he is a great afleet, but this will be an offense with a QB who has to run the ball--and Denard is much beter at that. Magee loves Robinson. Magee is the OC. They can make Denard a passer as well.

But I DO see your point--if Tate gets it done and is great, then yeah, I'll buy into it--get Denard da ball. But Denard is going to push Tate hard--and just may beat him out.

as cool as it is, the 100 really isnt a football stat, since it undervalues your stop-to-go speed. running a 4.27 40 is far more important than a 10.28 100 (i caught the humor, but just pointing it out). in hermy's clip, it looked like denard was running much faster at the end than the beginning. you need to be explosive if you play the slot. hopefully he does have explosiveness too.

and zip, we have forcier and denard this year, gardner and offered some guy named moochie next year. we're not bringing in all these guys to exclusively try for the qb spot.

I think you are wrong, diddy, as usual. They ARE being brought in to play QB, especially now when no one has proven themself on the field. I don't know about you, but as of this writing, I'm not prouncing Tate Forcier a resounding success. The coaching staff has said they want to recruit two QBs in every class.

Rodriguez has experience with a one-trick pony: when Pat White was injured, WVU couldn't beat Pitt in Morgantown with the chance of playing for the national championship on the line. AND, things are different these days: if a kid is recruited to play a position and doesn't like the treatment of being moved, but thinks he can play the position he was recruited for, he's gone. I suppose if you want a revolving door on the locker room, and if you're one of those dolts who buys into the Michigan fan mantra that it's always the player's fault if things don't work out, then you'll be happy with situations like what happened with Mallett and Threet. I guarantee you that UM coaches guaranteed Gardener he'll be a QB at Michigan, and I guarantee you they made the same guarantee to Robinson.

Now I'm not saying Robinson won't accept a position change, but dig this: Loeffler and Meyer went after him to go to Florida to play QB. He chose Michigan instead, and it probably wasn't with the idea that as a quarterback, he'll make a fine split end.

Position changes are tough. Think Robinson can just go out and play slot after never having played it before? Think maybe he was a QB in high school for a reason? Don't over think it. It could happen, but with Forceir being a true freshman who will make many mistakes and play bad football for long stretches (unless he's Chad Henne jr, and he's probably not), Robinson will get snaps at QB, and plenty of them. I'm thinking he isn't going to even be practicing at slot or split end, because the coaching staff knows they need a good backup at least, and Sheridan isn't who they want there.